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Patch: We have a problem
in the community.

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I never tried to be a hero.

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It's just
who else is gonna do the job?

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♪♪

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R: People involved
in this story are...

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-Furries.
-Furries.

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Furries.

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♪♪

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I thought I'd heard everything
under the sun

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that happened
inside the furry fandom

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because I was
a furry news reporter.

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People will send me tips.

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♪♪

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A group of furries was exposed
sharing animal-abuse material.

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There was something
about the story

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that would shock people so much

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that they would make me
the bad guy for telling it.

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♪♪

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The public is not aware
of what goes on like this,

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not just here but worldwide.

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♪♪

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We have evidence
of some serious crime happening.

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Why didn't this
go to the police first?

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We had already contacted police,

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and the police basically told us
we're on our own.

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It needed a team.

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Kero The Wolf: It's time that
the furry fandom take a stand.

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♪♪

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[Howls]

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My prey
are people who harm animals,

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criminals who harm the innocent.

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I investigate violent
individuals who prey on animals.

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I wanted to help.
Like, let's get these guys.

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♪♪

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♪♪

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♪♪

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♪♪

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He's a very tall character.

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I'm Patrick,
also known as Patch O'Furr.

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[Sighs] I'm known
as a, uh, pro animator,

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pet-portrait artist.

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Let's give him
some big feet paws.

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♪♪

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And I'm a furry.

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Hey!

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♪♪

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You know, it's --
it's a typical story.

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♪♪

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Well, how far back
do you want to go?

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I was just a nerdy kid
living in the suburbs.

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[Bicycle bell rings]
I was a paper boy as a kid.

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Everybody deals with bullying
at some point.

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Oh, boy. Neighborhood bullies
would have a trap set for me,

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and one of them
shot a skateboard under my bike,

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and I went flying,
and then I got knocked out --

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um, stuff like that, you know?

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I would, uh, go to school
with a black eye, and...

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But, uh, there was -- there was
some pretty dramatic stuff.

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♪♪

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I ended up in San Francisco.

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♪♪

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Here I am. I'm in the city.

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I don't have a partner.

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I don't get hugs a lot.

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I wasn't popular.
I didn't have a lot of friends.

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One day I walk up
to some ordinary street corner,

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and there was a bar
called The Stud.

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[Bass thumping in distance]

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[Dance music playing]

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[Growls]

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It seems like a friendly place.

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So I go in.

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[Music continues]

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So, there's a dance floor,

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and next to the stage
there's a curtain.

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The curtain parts.

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[Dramatic music plays]

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And out steps this vision...

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a cartoon otter.

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[Dance music playing]

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He's got these big, cute eyes
and this expression,

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and, um, he's coming to dance.

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[Music continues]

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It was mind-blowing.

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That was when I decided
I needed to come back

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and I needed to come back
as one of these characters.

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[Chuckles]

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♪♪

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For the purpose of this project,

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I'm gonna go by "R."

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Uh, what is a furry?

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♪♪

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I think everyone kind of has
their own definition.

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My definition would be

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a person who enjoys

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anthropomorphic creatures
or animals.

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♪♪

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Furry is a huge community.

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It's a community that overlaps
with LGBTQ,

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and that's why the community
is so great,

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is because we come from
all different walks of life.

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I think of it as friendship,

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fun and loving and accepting

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and inclusive and diverse.

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♪♪

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Connor: The great part
about being in the fandom

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is coming together for
common interests, common goals.

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Furries care deeply
about their animals.

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They care so much that their
animals are their children.

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My name's Connor Goodwolf.

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Um, I am an avid gamer,

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a child of the Internet,

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and a furry in the furry fandom.

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When I reference dogs,
they're my fuzzy children.

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The majority of furries
are the same way.

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My name is Naia Okami.

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Some of you might recognize me

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from a pretty popular
online meme.

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I made the comment...

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"On all levels except physical,
I'm a wolf."

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I consider myself
to be a wolf therian,

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and how would I explain that
to you?

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I see myself as wolf
in a very symbolic way.

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[Howls]

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Furries pride themselves
on being decent people.

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Furries are also a very
accepting group of people.

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You can just be interested
in the artwork

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or in some sort of aspect

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and you will be accepted.

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♪♪

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You will find community.

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This is Patch O'Furr.

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♪♪

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When I found the furry fandom,

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I saw that there were a lot
of untold stories in it,

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and there was nobody
who was really keeping track.

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But I'm like,

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"Well, somebody's
got to do this,

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and I guess
it might as well be me,"

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so I started Dogpatch Press --

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news about furries for furries.

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I started out just telling
lighthearted stories.

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Like, for example,
there was this thing

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called TonyTigerGate.

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Cereal mascots and furries

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have a bit
of a special relationship.

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♪♪

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And he would actually get, um...

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hit on by online furries.

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And they would make
risqué comments like --

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like, "Hey, Daddy Tony,
why don't you frost my flakes?"

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[Laughs]

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So Tony blocked all the furries.

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[Laughs]

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By 2017, I was several years in,

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and I was really
into the groove of it.

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This is when the alt right
was emerging into real life,

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and it entered the furry spaces,

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and it sort of activated
a latent strain

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of, uh, just hate

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that was inside the fandom.
[Snarls]

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You started to get this thing
that's Nazi furries.

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♪♪

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So, uh, I covered it,

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and it caught fire.

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12 hours after I released
this report,

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a convention shut down,

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so this was a new level
of blogging

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that had not been done
in the fandom.

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My following shot up.

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♪♪

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There was a lot of people
that were very prominent

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in the furry community, that
were, like, really important,

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had lots of followers,
influencers.

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We actually have a term for it.

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Instead of "popular,"
it was "popufur,"

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um, so popular furries.

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♪♪

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I don't feel like an influencer.

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I'm a news dog.

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Maybe I was always destined
to be one

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because I was a paper boy
as a kid.

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[Chuckles]

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[Siren wailing in distance]

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When I first started
Dogpatch Press,

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the idea that I would be making
police reports

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was completely off the table.

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♪♪

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I had an awareness

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that there is a fringe of people

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who abuse animals,

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who see our subculture

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as a convenient shield,

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but I didn't realize

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that it included people
that I knew,

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people with influence.

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♪♪

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One day in 2018...

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[Tweets]

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...I got tagged

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in a very bizarre
public Twitter post.

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It wasn't just
a private message.

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♪♪

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♪♪

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♪♪

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This Twitter post
had hundreds of people named

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in connections with zoosadism.

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♪♪

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I thought I'd heard everything
under the sun

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that happened inside
the furry fandom

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but zoosadism,

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and I had never heard
that word before.

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♪♪

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Somebody who commits acts
of zoosadism

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is getting sexual pleasure

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from the pain and terror

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they are inflicting on animals.

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♪♪

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It makes you feel
like your neighbors,

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like the world around you,
is unsafe.

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But you have to remember,

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most furries are people
who would never harm animals.

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They certainly wouldn't commit
zoosadism.

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There are bad people
within furry.

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That doesn't make furry bad.

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Unfortunately,
niche communities,

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especially
misunderstood niche communities,

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are targets for predators.

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♪♪

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If you are somebody who finds
animals sexually appealing,

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you might figure, "Well, furries
are the closest thing to that,"

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even though they are not.

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[Siren wailing in distance]

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But the furry fandom

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needs to reckon with this.

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[Engine revs]

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There weren't enough skilled
people investigating this.

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♪♪

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I was needed.

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[Engine revs, tires squeal]

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And I thought, "Wow!
You know, I am in a role

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where I can do something
about this

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and find every last person
who might be involved in this,

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get them out of the community,
and get them arrested.

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[Engine revs]

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♪♪

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Patch: When I first saw
the, uh, Twitter post

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that was tagging me...

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♪♪

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...I thought
it might be some kind of a prank

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or somebody
just trying to spread

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some false information,
which is pretty common.

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And I was very reluctant, but...

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I was gonna dig in.

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♪♪

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So I clicked through
to a Telegram channel

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that was holding links

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to other files
that were posted online,

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and it was a series of chat logs
from secret groups.

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♪♪

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Telegram was the app
that all of these --

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these people were using.

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That's where the logs came from.

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It's where these chats
were made.

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But, you know,
usually it's a hobby community

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where people are there for,
you know, their interests

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and they're having a lot of fun.

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♪♪

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But this was something
like you'd see

270
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in a Hollywood horror movie.

271
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♪♪

272
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It was dozens of people

273
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creating extremely shocking,

274
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uh, gory animal-abuse

275
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and torture porn,

276
00:13:08,931 --> 00:13:10,931
and you could tell in the chat

277
00:13:10,931 --> 00:13:14,172
some of these people
were furries.

278
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♪♪

279
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In the fandom,
there's always some kind of,

280
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like drama going on
or a mini scandal going on,

281
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so when the leaks dropped
on social media,

282
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the whole furry community
wanted to know what happened,

283
00:13:35,206 --> 00:13:36,724
what's going on?

284
00:13:36,724 --> 00:13:38,206
♪♪

285
00:13:38,206 --> 00:13:41,310
Some leaked documents
that came out of Telegram.

286
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There's a thing called
"zoosadomasochists."

287
00:13:44,655 --> 00:13:46,172
♪♪

288
00:13:46,172 --> 00:13:47,931
Connor: Someone sent me
the Telegram channel

289
00:13:47,931 --> 00:13:49,655
with private messages,

290
00:13:49,655 --> 00:13:53,034
and I downloaded the chat logs,
the photos, everything.

291
00:13:53,034 --> 00:13:55,068
♪♪

292
00:13:55,068 --> 00:13:58,896
And I actually look
at the photos and videos

293
00:13:58,896 --> 00:14:02,068
sent around in the chat logs.

294
00:14:02,068 --> 00:14:03,482
♪♪

295
00:14:03,482 --> 00:14:04,896
On the Internet,

296
00:14:04,896 --> 00:14:08,586
I've seen shock material
that was sent around,

297
00:14:08,586 --> 00:14:13,000
but with this zoosadism leak...

298
00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:16,137
it's difficult
to view the materials.

299
00:14:16,137 --> 00:14:21,241
♪♪

300
00:14:21,241 --> 00:14:24,758
R: He did
a detailed kind of breakdown

301
00:14:24,758 --> 00:14:26,793
of photos and videos

302
00:14:26,793 --> 00:14:29,206
that were shared
between these people.

303
00:14:29,206 --> 00:14:31,655
♪♪

304
00:14:31,655 --> 00:14:33,448
Just reading it, I --

305
00:14:33,448 --> 00:14:36,172
I got sick just reading it.

306
00:14:36,172 --> 00:14:41,551
And that was before I saw any of
this disgusting content myself.

307
00:14:41,551 --> 00:14:45,931
♪♪

308
00:14:45,931 --> 00:14:48,413
I mean, so many of these acts
involve puppies.

309
00:14:48,413 --> 00:14:52,724
[Distorted voices]

310
00:14:52,724 --> 00:14:56,413
There was activity in there that
I didn't even know was real.

311
00:14:56,413 --> 00:15:00,068
Like, you can hear
urban legends about...

312
00:15:00,068 --> 00:15:02,551
sick stuff that happens
on the Internet.

313
00:15:02,551 --> 00:15:03,931
But this wasn't a game.

314
00:15:03,931 --> 00:15:06,827
Like, these were real animals
being hurt.

315
00:15:06,827 --> 00:15:08,206
♪♪

316
00:15:08,206 --> 00:15:10,241
Naia: The feeling
in the pit of your stomach,

317
00:15:10,241 --> 00:15:12,793
the horror and the despair of,
"Oh, my God,

318
00:15:12,793 --> 00:15:14,896
this really does exist."

319
00:15:14,896 --> 00:15:16,551
R: Everyone
was talking about it.

320
00:15:16,551 --> 00:15:20,758
Patch: If these people
really were furries,

321
00:15:20,758 --> 00:15:22,206
they were doing things

322
00:15:22,206 --> 00:15:25,862
that went against
the public image of the fandom,

323
00:15:25,862 --> 00:15:28,724
and we don't know
who these people were,

324
00:15:28,724 --> 00:15:31,172
but this was their big secret.

325
00:15:31,172 --> 00:15:34,137
R: They used the furry community
as a cover

326
00:15:34,137 --> 00:15:35,931
for what they were doing
in the dark.

327
00:15:35,931 --> 00:15:37,965
It was like a veil for them.

328
00:15:37,965 --> 00:15:41,310
Patch:
The mystery of these leaks --

329
00:15:41,310 --> 00:15:44,551
How can we identify people
who are using screen names

330
00:15:44,551 --> 00:15:45,827
to hide themselves?

331
00:15:45,827 --> 00:15:50,689
[Howls]

332
00:15:50,689 --> 00:15:52,103
You know what?

333
00:15:52,103 --> 00:15:55,068
Let me show you
what someone of of this oddness,

334
00:15:55,068 --> 00:15:56,896
of this niche, can actually do.

335
00:15:56,896 --> 00:16:00,206
R: Everyone
was looking for evidence...

336
00:16:00,206 --> 00:16:01,137
♪♪

337
00:16:01,137 --> 00:16:02,448
...reading the chats,

338
00:16:02,448 --> 00:16:04,206
watching the content,

339
00:16:04,206 --> 00:16:06,517
and whatever information
we could find on them,

340
00:16:06,517 --> 00:16:11,172
we'd make a folder for them
of their username.

341
00:16:11,172 --> 00:16:13,689
Patch:
Names like Tim Win, EliteKnight.

342
00:16:13,689 --> 00:16:16,689
R: But it was just user names
that no one recognized

343
00:16:16,689 --> 00:16:19,896
except for this YouTuber...

344
00:16:19,896 --> 00:16:24,758
Kero The Wolf.

345
00:16:24,758 --> 00:16:26,896
Welcome to Anthrocon 2016!

346
00:16:26,896 --> 00:16:29,034
Yeah!
Yeah!Yeah!Yeah!

347
00:16:29,034 --> 00:16:31,275
Patch: Kero The Wolf.

348
00:16:31,275 --> 00:16:34,068
He had 100,000 followers
on YouTube.

349
00:16:34,068 --> 00:16:37,241
Thank you guys so much
for 100,000 subscribers.

350
00:16:37,241 --> 00:16:40,517
Oh, my God, I can't even
comprehend this. Oh!

351
00:16:40,517 --> 00:16:42,034
That caused all the chaos.

352
00:16:42,034 --> 00:16:45,689
R: Everyone went
completely out of control.

353
00:16:45,689 --> 00:16:47,448
Kero The Wolf, [bleep] you,

354
00:16:47,448 --> 00:16:50,172
'cause you're
freaking disgusting!

355
00:16:50,172 --> 00:16:51,827
Woman: This person has done...

356
00:16:51,827 --> 00:16:53,724
Woman #2:
...as the justice goes.

357
00:16:53,724 --> 00:16:55,862
You deserve to burn in Hell.

358
00:16:55,862 --> 00:16:58,206
Kero has a small penis.

359
00:16:58,206 --> 00:17:01,241
That is just typical
Internet shenanigans.

360
00:17:04,448 --> 00:17:07,655
Patch: The screen name Kero
in the leaks

361
00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:09,793
looked like Kero The Wolf,

362
00:17:09,793 --> 00:17:13,206
the name of what you would call
a popufur.

363
00:17:13,206 --> 00:17:15,551
Thank you guys so much
for watching this short vlog.

364
00:17:15,551 --> 00:17:17,482
If you want me to do longer
ones, let me know,

365
00:17:17,482 --> 00:17:19,931
'cause I would love
to do more vlogs.

366
00:17:19,931 --> 00:17:22,137
And, hey, you should
check me out on Patreon

367
00:17:22,137 --> 00:17:23,655
because Patreon is cool!

368
00:17:23,655 --> 00:17:26,448
Now, at the time, in 2018,

369
00:17:26,448 --> 00:17:28,068
I think he would have been
the top four

370
00:17:28,068 --> 00:17:30,241
of furry YouTubers.

371
00:17:30,241 --> 00:17:32,034
Hey! Hi!

372
00:17:32,034 --> 00:17:34,827
Hi. Hi.
Hi. Hi.

373
00:17:39,896 --> 00:17:42,379
There were a lot of user names
in the leaks,

374
00:17:42,379 --> 00:17:45,758
but when his name was dropped,

375
00:17:45,758 --> 00:17:49,241
it made an absolute huge impact.

376
00:17:49,241 --> 00:17:51,068
Gee golly wow!

377
00:17:51,068 --> 00:17:53,068
Kero [bleep] sucks, dude!

378
00:17:53,068 --> 00:17:55,724
If I talk about
a lot of the things he did,

379
00:17:55,724 --> 00:17:58,896
I'm going to
unironically throw up.

380
00:17:58,896 --> 00:18:02,551
Many people believe
that he is guilty of what he did

381
00:18:02,551 --> 00:18:04,931
and wanted to prove it.

382
00:18:11,448 --> 00:18:14,344
Zoosadism, necrophilia.

383
00:18:14,344 --> 00:18:16,758
This is not who we are.

384
00:18:16,758 --> 00:18:18,517
I'm your host, Kero The Wolf,

385
00:18:18,517 --> 00:18:20,517
and let's get started.

386
00:18:20,517 --> 00:18:24,379
People were like, "You are
representing the fandom here,"

387
00:18:24,379 --> 00:18:25,965
and this is one of the reasons

388
00:18:25,965 --> 00:18:29,517
why he immediately got
so much ire.

389
00:18:29,517 --> 00:18:31,482
♪♪

390
00:18:31,482 --> 00:18:33,172
Everyone was talking about it,

391
00:18:33,172 --> 00:18:35,137
so I kept like, looking at what
other people were tweeting.

392
00:18:35,137 --> 00:18:38,689
I was searching through
the contents of the leaks.

393
00:18:38,689 --> 00:18:42,241
Naia: He was very visible
in those chats

394
00:18:42,241 --> 00:18:46,551
because he was posting
under his public furry name

395
00:18:46,551 --> 00:18:49,034
and trading bestiality,

396
00:18:49,034 --> 00:18:51,000
zoosadism videos.

397
00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:57,000
♪♪

398
00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:03,793
♪♪

399
00:19:03,793 --> 00:19:08,620
Patch: So, if this was
really Kero The Wolf...

400
00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:10,241
what he was doing online

401
00:19:10,241 --> 00:19:14,241
was in extreme contrast
to what he was doing in secret.

402
00:19:14,241 --> 00:19:16,689
♪♪

403
00:19:16,689 --> 00:19:18,517
I was just stunned.

404
00:19:18,517 --> 00:19:20,137
It just vibrated

405
00:19:20,137 --> 00:19:22,965
and just rippled out
through the whole community.

406
00:19:22,965 --> 00:19:25,103
There were several accusations

407
00:19:25,103 --> 00:19:29,724
that X, Y, and Z videos
were Kero.

408
00:19:29,724 --> 00:19:34,310
Patch:
Video 1, Kero, in a suit head,

409
00:19:34,310 --> 00:19:38,965
forces a medium dog to [bleep]

410
00:19:38,965 --> 00:19:42,758
Video 2, a tied dog is [bleep]

411
00:19:42,758 --> 00:19:48,310
Video 3,
the corpse of a deer is [bleep]

412
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:51,586
♪♪

413
00:19:51,586 --> 00:19:54,551
Can you imagine a worse way

414
00:19:54,551 --> 00:19:59,862
to smear a community?

415
00:19:59,862 --> 00:20:01,862
[Ding]

416
00:20:01,862 --> 00:20:04,275
[Ding]

417
00:20:04,275 --> 00:20:07,068
Unfortunately, with furry,

418
00:20:07,068 --> 00:20:09,551
you know, you tell someone
you're a furry,

419
00:20:09,551 --> 00:20:11,620
and all they can think of
is like --

420
00:20:11,620 --> 00:20:14,862
like it's a fetish thing,
it's a sex thing.

421
00:20:14,862 --> 00:20:18,758
Some will call it a fetish,
but it's really a different way

422
00:20:18,758 --> 00:20:22,068
of kind of looking at these
same sort of romantic themes.

423
00:20:22,068 --> 00:20:25,482
So, it's just animal characters
replacing human characters

424
00:20:25,482 --> 00:20:27,068
in the same kind
of adult novels?

425
00:20:27,068 --> 00:20:28,517
Yep, exactly.

426
00:20:28,517 --> 00:20:30,620
R: They say
it's hurting animals

427
00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:32,793
or finding animals
sexually attractive.

428
00:20:32,793 --> 00:20:35,724
A lot of this has, like,
a very kinky edge to it.

429
00:20:35,724 --> 00:20:38,068
It's not that at all.

430
00:20:38,068 --> 00:20:39,655
♪♪

431
00:20:39,655 --> 00:20:41,034
There's -- There's people
in the community

432
00:20:41,034 --> 00:20:42,758
that are in government
positions.

433
00:20:42,758 --> 00:20:44,689
I mean, they're your pilots.
They're your doctors.

434
00:20:44,689 --> 00:20:48,206
They're your therapists.
Like, they are anybody.

435
00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:49,827
[Indistinct conversations]

436
00:20:49,827 --> 00:20:52,310
But a stigma comes with it.

437
00:20:52,310 --> 00:20:55,000
We're crazy, we're mentally ill,

438
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,379
and we -- we can't function
within society

439
00:20:58,379 --> 00:21:01,517
and that there's --
there's something wrong with us

440
00:21:01,517 --> 00:21:03,931
and we're -- we're sick,
so Kero The Wolf

441
00:21:03,931 --> 00:21:06,896
being very prominent
in the furry community --

442
00:21:06,896 --> 00:21:09,448
this definitely didn't help.

443
00:21:09,448 --> 00:21:12,344
But people just wanted to know,

444
00:21:12,344 --> 00:21:15,724
"Is this real?"

445
00:21:15,724 --> 00:21:19,103
Is it common for people
to use a known name?

446
00:21:19,103 --> 00:21:21,448
♪♪

447
00:21:21,448 --> 00:21:23,034
Would I say common? No.

448
00:21:23,034 --> 00:21:25,241
But it also happens more often
than you would think...

449
00:21:25,241 --> 00:21:29,206
Hi, guys. So, today is gonna be
a little bit different.

450
00:21:29,206 --> 00:21:32,517
...especially if they feel
they are in a private group...

451
00:21:32,517 --> 00:21:34,241
♪♪

452
00:21:34,241 --> 00:21:37,068
...with a relative amount
of security.

453
00:21:37,068 --> 00:21:39,965
This was all recorded
for the entire world to see,

454
00:21:39,965 --> 00:21:41,551
so, uh...

455
00:21:41,551 --> 00:21:44,517
But was the person in the leaks

456
00:21:44,517 --> 00:21:46,344
really Kero The Wolf?

457
00:21:46,344 --> 00:21:50,655
♪♪

458
00:21:50,655 --> 00:21:54,931
[Humming]

459
00:21:54,931 --> 00:21:56,689
Ohh. Hi!

460
00:21:56,689 --> 00:21:58,758
I'm Kero -- Kero The Wolf.

461
00:21:58,758 --> 00:22:00,172
Nice to meet you.

462
00:22:00,172 --> 00:22:03,862
♪♪

463
00:22:14,103 --> 00:22:16,931
♪♪

464
00:22:16,931 --> 00:22:18,344
It's hard to imagine

465
00:22:18,344 --> 00:22:21,310
people really thinking
I did this stuff.

466
00:22:21,310 --> 00:22:23,724
There was a lot of terrible
things that happened

467
00:22:23,724 --> 00:22:24,965
in those leaks.

468
00:22:24,965 --> 00:22:29,103
So, when I saw the user name
Kero The Wolf,

469
00:22:29,103 --> 00:22:31,965
I just felt shocked
and confused.

470
00:22:31,965 --> 00:22:34,310
Just, like, why?

471
00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:37,551
[Chuckling] Why?
Why does it say my name?

472
00:22:37,551 --> 00:22:41,965
That's not me,
and it just seems fake.

473
00:22:41,965 --> 00:22:44,103
[Geese honking]

474
00:22:44,103 --> 00:22:47,586
Growing up in my area,
I always really felt lonely.

475
00:22:47,586 --> 00:22:50,172
Well, you know,
I was always kind of an outcast

476
00:22:50,172 --> 00:22:51,655
in, you know, school
and everything,

477
00:22:51,655 --> 00:22:54,310
and I would have never
came out as gay

478
00:22:54,310 --> 00:22:56,655
if, you know --
if it weren't for the fandom.

479
00:22:56,655 --> 00:22:58,793
You know,
it was kind of the first outlet

480
00:22:58,793 --> 00:23:00,827
that I kind of discovered,
you know,

481
00:23:00,827 --> 00:23:02,172
where I could be myself.

482
00:23:02,172 --> 00:23:05,241
They don't care if you're gay
if you're or straight

483
00:23:05,241 --> 00:23:07,241
or if you identify
as a pineapple.

484
00:23:07,241 --> 00:23:12,206
I always enjoyed, like, really,
you know, expressing myself

485
00:23:12,206 --> 00:23:13,379
in digital media.

486
00:23:13,379 --> 00:23:14,724
I actually went to college

487
00:23:14,724 --> 00:23:17,000
for cinematography
and visual effects.

488
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,310
After I graduated college,

489
00:23:18,310 --> 00:23:20,310
I ended up starting
a YouTube channel.

490
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:22,413
Hey! I got some big news.

491
00:23:22,413 --> 00:23:24,827
This Thursday,
I'm graduating college!

492
00:23:24,827 --> 00:23:29,103
Second thing,
I just hit 8,000 subscribers,

493
00:23:29,103 --> 00:23:32,758
and I really love it! Ohh!

494
00:23:32,758 --> 00:23:34,862
It just kind of, you know,
grew from there.

495
00:23:34,862 --> 00:23:37,344
I got myself
a little community going.

496
00:23:37,344 --> 00:23:38,689
♪ Kero

497
00:23:38,689 --> 00:23:41,379
♪ Kero shorts

498
00:23:41,379 --> 00:23:44,862
I am very moist, very --
Moisture. all the way.

499
00:23:44,862 --> 00:23:46,551
Are you from Tennessee?

500
00:23:46,551 --> 00:23:49,931
'Cause you're the only 10 I see.
[Laughs]

501
00:23:49,931 --> 00:23:52,172
And I kind of exploded.

502
00:23:52,172 --> 00:23:57,689
♪♪

503
00:23:57,689 --> 00:24:03,758
♪♪

504
00:24:03,758 --> 00:24:05,655
So, when the leaks
first happened,

505
00:24:05,655 --> 00:24:07,413
I didn't know what was going on,

506
00:24:07,413 --> 00:24:09,793
and I was getting weird
private messages.

507
00:24:09,793 --> 00:24:11,275
♪♪

508
00:24:11,275 --> 00:24:13,344
People were coming
to my account,

509
00:24:13,344 --> 00:24:15,275
an account that receives tips,

510
00:24:15,275 --> 00:24:16,689
and they obviously knew

511
00:24:16,689 --> 00:24:19,551
that I was supposed to be
responding to this

512
00:24:19,551 --> 00:24:21,275
and they didn't want me to,

513
00:24:21,275 --> 00:24:23,586
and they were trying
to tell me lies

514
00:24:23,586 --> 00:24:25,793
to get me to stop looking at it.

515
00:24:25,793 --> 00:24:27,379
For example,

516
00:24:27,379 --> 00:24:29,275
Kero The Wolf

517
00:24:29,275 --> 00:24:31,965
actually messaged me right away.

518
00:24:31,965 --> 00:24:33,655
They sent me a screenshot

519
00:24:33,655 --> 00:24:37,965
that was claimed to be
from Kero's phone,

520
00:24:37,965 --> 00:24:42,000
and the screenshot showed
the Internet traffic

521
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,344
going through Iran,

522
00:24:44,344 --> 00:24:46,344
and the implication was

523
00:24:46,344 --> 00:24:48,724
the person using the device

524
00:24:48,724 --> 00:24:50,241
was hacked.

525
00:24:50,241 --> 00:24:53,172
Therefore, all the information
coming off the device

526
00:24:53,172 --> 00:24:54,896
was planted

527
00:24:54,896 --> 00:24:58,103
or faked.

528
00:24:58,103 --> 00:25:01,275
I couldn't believe the things
that they were accusing me of,

529
00:25:01,275 --> 00:25:03,793
and I tried to prove myself.

530
00:25:03,793 --> 00:25:05,482
I tried to prove
everything wrong,

531
00:25:05,482 --> 00:25:07,620
but no one believed me.

532
00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:10,344
Everyone's hating on me
for something I didn't do.

533
00:25:10,344 --> 00:25:12,137
Ohh. Sorry.

534
00:25:12,137 --> 00:25:14,758
Is it all right
if I take this off for a second?

535
00:25:24,068 --> 00:25:26,655
♪♪

536
00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:29,413
When people saw
a little bit of evidence,

537
00:25:29,413 --> 00:25:32,206
they immediately
were calling him guilty.

538
00:25:32,206 --> 00:25:33,724
"This guy needs to burn,

539
00:25:33,724 --> 00:25:36,379
and now we're going to find
the evidence

540
00:25:36,379 --> 00:25:39,448
to start that fire."

541
00:25:39,448 --> 00:25:41,379
My name is Ashley Fox,

542
00:25:41,379 --> 00:25:43,068
from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

543
00:25:43,068 --> 00:25:46,310
Kero was my, like, regular,
everyday friend.

544
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:48,034
♪♪

545
00:25:48,034 --> 00:25:52,344
The first time I met Kero,
uh, I went to a furbowl.

546
00:25:52,344 --> 00:25:54,448
Basically,
it's a bunch of furries

547
00:25:54,448 --> 00:25:56,241
that just go to a bowling alley.

548
00:25:56,241 --> 00:26:00,103
♪♪

549
00:26:00,103 --> 00:26:02,034
He had this unique laugh,

550
00:26:02,034 --> 00:26:05,172
and you could tell
that it's like an inner child

551
00:26:05,172 --> 00:26:06,517
that's just coming out.

552
00:26:06,517 --> 00:26:08,517
He honestly was a lot of fun
to be with.

553
00:26:08,517 --> 00:26:09,724
He was a good friend.

554
00:26:09,724 --> 00:26:11,448
Hi, guys!
I am here with Ashley Fox

555
00:26:11,448 --> 00:26:12,620
at The Point...
Hello!

556
00:26:12,620 --> 00:26:13,965
...and we are fursuiting.

557
00:26:13,965 --> 00:26:16,620
I really didn't know much
about zoosadists

558
00:26:16,620 --> 00:26:18,896
until the whole Kero thing.

559
00:26:18,896 --> 00:26:21,000
One of the most popular
furry YouTubers

560
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,275
is being accused

561
00:26:22,275 --> 00:26:24,620
of sexually abusing his dog

562
00:26:24,620 --> 00:26:28,862
and generally being
a necropedozoophile.

563
00:26:28,862 --> 00:26:31,896
Honestly, I think somebody would
falsely want to accuse Kero

564
00:26:31,896 --> 00:26:35,620
because of the fact
that Kero has fame.

565
00:26:35,620 --> 00:26:40,137
But I specifically asked Kero
multiple times, in fact,

566
00:26:40,137 --> 00:26:42,310
"Are these leaks real?

567
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:43,586
Are they real?

568
00:26:43,586 --> 00:26:45,724
Did you actually do

569
00:26:45,724 --> 00:26:48,448
what this shit is saying
you did?

570
00:26:48,448 --> 00:26:51,068
Did you fucking do this
to an animal?"

571
00:26:51,068 --> 00:26:52,517
And he said, "No."

572
00:26:52,517 --> 00:26:53,586
Me and him were friends,

573
00:26:53,586 --> 00:26:56,482
so I backed him.

574
00:26:56,482 --> 00:26:58,827
Well [Sighs] what do I do

575
00:26:58,827 --> 00:27:01,103
that'll prove myself
in this situation?

576
00:27:01,103 --> 00:27:03,310
All I can say is, like,
you know, "I didn't do this,"

577
00:27:03,310 --> 00:27:06,310
but they won't believe me
unless I show something, so...

578
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:10,000
♪♪

579
00:27:12,655 --> 00:27:15,379
♪♪

580
00:27:15,379 --> 00:27:17,172
Hey, guys.
I'm Ashley Zoe Fox,

581
00:27:17,172 --> 00:27:19,517
and this is going to be
a quick video.

582
00:27:19,517 --> 00:27:21,034
I'm here with Kero.

583
00:27:21,034 --> 00:27:22,137
Hi, guys.

584
00:27:22,137 --> 00:27:25,896
And you guys probably know
the controversy

585
00:27:25,896 --> 00:27:27,241
that's already been
going on,

586
00:27:27,241 --> 00:27:29,206
as well as I'm gonna let Kero
have the floor

587
00:27:29,206 --> 00:27:30,586
for a couple minutes

588
00:27:30,586 --> 00:27:33,103
to be able to state anything
that he wants to say,

589
00:27:33,103 --> 00:27:35,137
and then we're gonna answer
a couple Twitter questions.

590
00:27:35,137 --> 00:27:39,448
So, first off --
sorry for being blunt --

591
00:27:39,448 --> 00:27:41,172
have you [bleep]
any animals?

592
00:27:41,172 --> 00:27:42,413
I haven't.

593
00:27:42,413 --> 00:27:44,310
I have never had sex
with any animals.

594
00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:45,551
Okay.

595
00:27:45,551 --> 00:27:47,931
♪♪

596
00:27:47,931 --> 00:27:49,827
R: Early people
combing through the videos

597
00:27:49,827 --> 00:27:52,275
believed Kero to be a man
in one of the leaked videos,

598
00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:55,689
the video of a man having sex
with a [bleep]

599
00:27:55,689 --> 00:27:57,103
There was an instance
where they're like,

600
00:27:57,103 --> 00:27:58,931
"Hey,
you're in all these videos."

601
00:27:58,931 --> 00:28:01,724
So I basically
almost got naked on Twitter,

602
00:28:01,724 --> 00:28:03,551
just showing parts of my body,

603
00:28:03,551 --> 00:28:05,172
and I'm like,
"Compare and contrast."

604
00:28:05,172 --> 00:28:14,793
♪♪

605
00:28:14,793 --> 00:28:16,103
I don't even look like him.

606
00:28:16,103 --> 00:28:17,862
He has tattoos.
I don't have tattoos.

607
00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:19,724
There was a person saying, like,

608
00:28:19,724 --> 00:28:21,862
"You could have removed
those tattoos."

609
00:28:21,862 --> 00:28:24,448
I'm like, "How --
That's not even reasonable

610
00:28:24,448 --> 00:28:25,965
to even assume that."

611
00:28:25,965 --> 00:28:29,068
Kero's number-one supporter,
Ashley Zoe Fox,

612
00:28:29,068 --> 00:28:31,551
tweeted out the comparison
of the man in the video

613
00:28:31,551 --> 00:28:32,827
to Kero The Wolf.

614
00:28:32,827 --> 00:28:34,310
People defending Kero
would use this

615
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:37,793
as meaning that Kero was
innocent on all accusations.

616
00:28:37,793 --> 00:28:40,206
The community had
a very mixed reaction.

617
00:28:40,206 --> 00:28:42,758
You had your group
who attacked Kero.

618
00:28:42,758 --> 00:28:44,172
Kero was just lying
to cover his ass.

619
00:28:44,172 --> 00:28:47,000
And you had people
who adamantly defended him.

620
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,862
It's just someone who hates Kero
wants to make him look bad.

621
00:28:49,862 --> 00:28:52,965
It became this overwhelming
just noise,

622
00:28:52,965 --> 00:28:56,103
and it created a space for Kero.

623
00:28:56,103 --> 00:28:57,206
I'm not in these videos.

624
00:28:57,206 --> 00:28:59,620
Videos can be staged,
Photoshop exists,

625
00:28:59,620 --> 00:29:01,896
so screenshots
can be easily edited.

626
00:29:01,896 --> 00:29:03,448
Patch: Hey, folks.

627
00:29:03,448 --> 00:29:05,586
Just to shed some light
on the Kero The Wolf thing,

628
00:29:05,586 --> 00:29:08,241
here's the, uh, log.

629
00:29:08,241 --> 00:29:10,517
Here's what the actual file
looks like.

630
00:29:10,517 --> 00:29:11,931
Find and replace.

631
00:29:11,931 --> 00:29:14,931
Let's do "Kera Wolf"
with "Wilhelm Scream."

632
00:29:14,931 --> 00:29:18,620
[Screams]
Here's the new file.

633
00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:20,068
Wilhelm Scream.
[ Screams ]

634
00:29:20,068 --> 00:29:23,965
If it's this easy for me
to fix one file,

635
00:29:23,965 --> 00:29:28,517
how hard would it be for
somebody to, you know, say...

636
00:29:28,517 --> 00:29:30,965
fake all of the logs?

637
00:29:30,965 --> 00:29:38,103
♪♪

638
00:29:38,103 --> 00:29:45,103
♪♪

639
00:29:45,103 --> 00:29:48,758
If you want to try to, you know,
prove that I'm guilty, go ahead

640
00:29:48,758 --> 00:29:50,413
because there's nothing there.

641
00:29:50,413 --> 00:29:52,689
So...

642
00:29:52,689 --> 00:29:54,137
let's -- let's do it.

643
00:29:54,137 --> 00:29:56,103
[Chuckles]

644
00:29:59,310 --> 00:30:02,551
[Dogs barking]

645
00:30:02,551 --> 00:30:07,551
♪♪

646
00:30:07,551 --> 00:30:10,965
Connor: So, growing up
as a child of the Internet,

647
00:30:10,965 --> 00:30:14,724
I learned that a lot of record
was already public,

648
00:30:14,724 --> 00:30:17,379
so I would sit there

649
00:30:17,379 --> 00:30:20,862
and dox my friends
out of sheer fun,

650
00:30:20,862 --> 00:30:25,482
and it ended up
turning into investigatory work,

651
00:30:25,482 --> 00:30:29,517
and I got into assisting
law enforcement.

652
00:30:29,517 --> 00:30:31,344
Tara Jabour:
Goodwolf sounded the alarm

653
00:30:31,344 --> 00:30:33,379
of the crime matrix database
on the dark web

654
00:30:33,379 --> 00:30:35,827
from the Columbus Division
of Police.

655
00:30:35,827 --> 00:30:38,620
At this point, like, my name's
just kind of gotten out,

656
00:30:38,620 --> 00:30:42,344
and it's like, "Hey, if you need
help, just reach out to him."

657
00:30:42,344 --> 00:30:43,965
Tara Jabour:
The city is claiming Goodwolf

658
00:30:43,965 --> 00:30:46,310
wrongfully downloaded
and disseminated the data.

659
00:30:46,310 --> 00:30:49,172
They call it
an invasion of privacy.

660
00:30:50,586 --> 00:30:54,379
Doxing is basically finding
people's identity

661
00:30:54,379 --> 00:30:56,758
and putting it public.

662
00:30:56,758 --> 00:31:00,551
I've seen people do it just
to start harassment campaigns.

663
00:31:00,551 --> 00:31:02,655
Some people see it as trolling.

664
00:31:02,655 --> 00:31:05,068
It would basically ruin
their life.

665
00:31:05,068 --> 00:31:07,379
But, in this case,

666
00:31:07,379 --> 00:31:10,586
I felt that this
was definitely a necessary evil.

667
00:31:10,586 --> 00:31:15,206
♪♪

668
00:31:15,206 --> 00:31:18,413
♪♪

669
00:31:18,413 --> 00:31:21,275
Around the time
that these leaks happened,

670
00:31:21,275 --> 00:31:25,000
this user posted
on this bestiality website.

671
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,724
♪♪

672
00:31:26,724 --> 00:31:28,965
Connor:
On that website, Beast Forum,

673
00:31:28,965 --> 00:31:34,241
individuals had found an account
called dogman2.

674
00:31:34,241 --> 00:31:37,310
Even using alternative accounts,

675
00:31:37,310 --> 00:31:39,965
people tend to post
where they live,

676
00:31:39,965 --> 00:31:42,034
so when people were searching,

677
00:31:42,034 --> 00:31:44,034
they found that this account

678
00:31:44,034 --> 00:31:47,517
was posting from Pittsburgh.

679
00:31:47,517 --> 00:31:52,137
So it was easy to take a look to
see who all lived in Pittsburgh.

680
00:31:52,137 --> 00:31:56,689
Beautiful scenery in Pittsburgh
because Pittsburgh is beautiful.

681
00:31:56,689 --> 00:31:59,275
The Beast Forum account dogman2

682
00:31:59,275 --> 00:32:03,413
had posted photos
force-feeding his dog.

683
00:32:03,413 --> 00:32:06,965
R: And Kero The Wolf
posted his dog a lot.

684
00:32:06,965 --> 00:32:11,310
There was several things
that matched perfectly.

685
00:32:11,310 --> 00:32:14,689
You can pull up the pictures
of the dogs side by side --

686
00:32:14,689 --> 00:32:16,758
the one that he posted
on social media,

687
00:32:16,758 --> 00:32:19,724
the one that he posted
on Beast Forum.

688
00:32:19,724 --> 00:32:21,172
Exact same dog.

689
00:32:21,172 --> 00:32:25,620
There's a video of him abusing
his dog in his own garage.

690
00:32:25,620 --> 00:32:27,275
♪♪

691
00:32:27,275 --> 00:32:30,655
There are other videos that he
made for his general audience

692
00:32:30,655 --> 00:32:32,862
that show the same garage.

693
00:32:32,862 --> 00:32:34,551
♪♪

694
00:32:34,551 --> 00:32:38,551
R: In that video, there was
certain markings on the dog,

695
00:32:38,551 --> 00:32:40,275
the collar that the dog wore,

696
00:32:40,275 --> 00:32:43,275
that matched his dog, Koda.

697
00:32:43,275 --> 00:32:46,068
We had somebody actually overlay

698
00:32:46,068 --> 00:32:48,068
the teeth pattern of the dog,

699
00:32:48,068 --> 00:32:49,758
and it matched perfectly.

700
00:32:49,758 --> 00:32:53,310
It was his dog.
It was his parents' house.

701
00:32:53,310 --> 00:32:55,000
♪♪

702
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,655
R: This was his dog, Koda.

703
00:32:57,655 --> 00:32:59,517
♪♪

704
00:32:59,517 --> 00:33:02,103
He's been lying this whole time.

705
00:33:02,103 --> 00:33:04,206
Man: Did you have a dog?

706
00:33:04,206 --> 00:33:06,068
No, I did not have a dog.

707
00:33:06,068 --> 00:33:07,551
Did you have a family dog?

708
00:33:07,551 --> 00:33:09,068
No, not at the time.

709
00:33:09,068 --> 00:33:12,620
♪♪

710
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:14,758
Even at your parents' house?

711
00:33:14,758 --> 00:33:16,724
My family had a dog in 2010,

712
00:33:16,724 --> 00:33:21,068
uh, but I haven't lived there
in like over a decade,

713
00:33:21,068 --> 00:33:23,275
so I barely visit.

714
00:33:23,275 --> 00:33:24,724
[Chuckles]

715
00:33:24,724 --> 00:33:26,862
♪♪

716
00:33:26,862 --> 00:33:28,827
God, I'm thirsty.

717
00:33:28,827 --> 00:33:31,137
♪♪

718
00:33:31,137 --> 00:33:33,413
Mm.

719
00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:41,241
♪♪

720
00:33:41,241 --> 00:33:50,172
♪♪

721
00:33:50,172 --> 00:33:51,896
Mm.

722
00:33:51,896 --> 00:33:59,758
♪♪

723
00:33:59,758 --> 00:34:07,551
♪♪

724
00:34:07,551 --> 00:34:10,517
I was just absolutely
gut-wrenched,

725
00:34:10,517 --> 00:34:12,034
and I was pissed.

726
00:34:12,034 --> 00:34:13,344
[Chuckles]

727
00:34:16,241 --> 00:34:24,758
♪♪

728
00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:28,965
And it was just put out there
on the Internet.

729
00:34:28,965 --> 00:34:30,241
Hi, guys.

730
00:34:30,241 --> 00:34:32,482
So, we have a development
in our Kero investigation.

731
00:34:32,482 --> 00:34:35,965
According to several
verified leaks,

732
00:34:35,965 --> 00:34:40,103
Kero lives
directly above this shop.

733
00:34:40,103 --> 00:34:42,896
Now everyone knew
who Kero The Wolf was

734
00:34:42,896 --> 00:34:45,862
and knew his name, his address,
and how to find him.

735
00:34:45,862 --> 00:34:50,551
So I contacted
the McDonald Police Department,

736
00:34:50,551 --> 00:34:54,517
which was the county
that Kero The Wolf was in.

737
00:34:54,517 --> 00:34:56,793
Hi!
Hi!
Hi, guys!

738
00:34:56,793 --> 00:34:58,448
I started talking
and telling him about,

739
00:34:58,448 --> 00:35:00,586
like, what we found, who he is,

740
00:35:00,586 --> 00:35:03,000
and he immediately wanted
not just a statement

741
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,413
but he said, "I-I want you
to send that to me."

742
00:35:05,413 --> 00:35:06,931
So we made a plan

743
00:35:06,931 --> 00:35:09,413
where I would start sending
anything that I found

744
00:35:09,413 --> 00:35:11,310
to the officer's address.

745
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:14,620
♪♪

746
00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:16,068
That was sent to the police

747
00:35:16,068 --> 00:35:20,000
as a, uh, large hard drive
of evidence.

748
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,620
♪♪

749
00:35:25,655 --> 00:35:28,689
[Indistinct conversations,
dogs barking]

750
00:35:28,689 --> 00:35:31,931
[Engine revs]

751
00:35:38,413 --> 00:35:44,310
To my knowledge,
furries are a, um...

752
00:35:44,310 --> 00:35:46,724
group of individuals
that dress up

753
00:35:46,724 --> 00:35:50,620
as, um, full-sized animals,

754
00:35:50,620 --> 00:35:53,931
such as wolves, cats, dogs,

755
00:35:53,931 --> 00:35:57,517
um, in full costume.

756
00:35:57,517 --> 00:36:01,103
Sergeant Paul Bosle,
McDonald Police Department.

757
00:36:01,103 --> 00:36:02,689
A citizen
had called our station,

758
00:36:02,689 --> 00:36:06,793
saying she saw on Twitter,
the social application,

759
00:36:06,793 --> 00:36:10,310
there were these postings
of videos and pictures

760
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:12,931
of the said actions.

761
00:36:12,931 --> 00:36:18,172
♪♪

762
00:36:18,172 --> 00:36:19,896
R: When we first made contact,

763
00:36:19,896 --> 00:36:21,724
they had no idea
what Telegram was.

764
00:36:21,724 --> 00:36:25,172
So we gave them
any relevant evidence

765
00:36:25,172 --> 00:36:27,689
to help in any way
that we could.

766
00:36:27,689 --> 00:36:29,724
♪♪

767
00:36:29,724 --> 00:36:33,103
So, the alleged crimes
were that Kero The Wolf --

768
00:36:33,103 --> 00:36:34,862
Mr. Hoffman --

769
00:36:34,862 --> 00:36:36,379
was having sex

770
00:36:36,379 --> 00:36:39,724
with living
and deceased animals,

771
00:36:39,724 --> 00:36:42,724
um...

772
00:36:42,724 --> 00:36:44,551
which is a crime.

773
00:36:44,551 --> 00:36:46,586
♪♪

774
00:36:46,586 --> 00:36:49,827
I was intrigued
and disgusted at the same time

775
00:36:49,827 --> 00:36:53,586
of how it was actually possible
somebody did these crimes

776
00:36:53,586 --> 00:36:57,758
but intrigued on how
we would investigate the matter.

777
00:36:57,758 --> 00:37:01,413
Our officers made a follow-up
at his residence

778
00:37:01,413 --> 00:37:05,379
to discuss the accusations.

779
00:37:05,379 --> 00:37:07,068
And then they showed up
with a search warrant.

780
00:37:07,068 --> 00:37:08,413
I'm like, "What the hell?"
[Chuckles]

781
00:37:08,413 --> 00:37:10,482
Well, they showed up
with the search warrant,

782
00:37:10,482 --> 00:37:13,206
and they took everything --

783
00:37:13,206 --> 00:37:14,482
anything electronic.

784
00:37:14,482 --> 00:37:16,758
I mean everything
that's electronic.

785
00:37:16,758 --> 00:37:19,206
[Police radio chatter]

786
00:37:19,206 --> 00:37:25,344
♪♪

787
00:37:25,344 --> 00:37:27,448
We are not law enforcement.

788
00:37:27,448 --> 00:37:28,965
We can't kick their door in,

789
00:37:28,965 --> 00:37:30,793
serve search warrants,
et cetera.

790
00:37:30,793 --> 00:37:33,620
What we do
is we collect information.

791
00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:36,793
When law enforcement is ready
to do their job,

792
00:37:36,793 --> 00:37:39,758
we are happy to hand them
everything we have

793
00:37:39,758 --> 00:37:41,310
and let them do their thing.

794
00:37:41,310 --> 00:37:44,034
[Police radio chatter]

795
00:37:44,034 --> 00:37:46,896
Kero The Wolf --
he seems nervous,

796
00:37:46,896 --> 00:37:49,793
um, uneasy of the situation.

797
00:37:49,793 --> 00:37:53,275
♪♪

798
00:37:53,275 --> 00:37:55,241
It was one of those cases where

799
00:37:55,241 --> 00:37:57,379
I needed to do something
about it.

800
00:37:57,379 --> 00:38:00,034
I couldn't let this one
get away.

801
00:38:00,034 --> 00:38:01,827
♪♪

802
00:38:01,827 --> 00:38:04,379
Kero had a lot of electronics
seized,

803
00:38:04,379 --> 00:38:06,482
but here's where it gets
really complicated.

804
00:38:06,482 --> 00:38:09,620
Regarding Kero's case, um,

805
00:38:09,620 --> 00:38:12,448
it's a little bit bittersweet
on our end.

806
00:38:12,448 --> 00:38:14,724
During that search warrant,

807
00:38:14,724 --> 00:38:19,482
we obtained multiple computer
and electronic devices.

808
00:38:19,482 --> 00:38:21,827
♪♪

809
00:38:21,827 --> 00:38:24,275
[Computer beeping]

810
00:38:24,275 --> 00:38:25,827
Due to our small size,

811
00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:30,517
our agency is unable to
forensically analyze such items,

812
00:38:30,517 --> 00:38:33,793
so we turned to the FBI
for assistance.

813
00:38:33,793 --> 00:38:36,000
After they were analyzed,

814
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,413
we were advised
that one of the computer towers

815
00:38:39,413 --> 00:38:41,551
was too heavily encrypted,

816
00:38:41,551 --> 00:38:43,931
and then that is
when we were directed

817
00:38:43,931 --> 00:38:46,206
towards Homeland Security.

818
00:38:46,206 --> 00:38:49,310
♪♪

819
00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:51,137
Um, unfortunately,

820
00:38:51,137 --> 00:38:56,551
they were unable to gain access
to the computer tower.

821
00:38:56,551 --> 00:38:59,310
[Sighs]

822
00:38:59,310 --> 00:39:01,275
If we post this stuff publicly

823
00:39:01,275 --> 00:39:03,517
and we do
the name-and-shame game,

824
00:39:03,517 --> 00:39:07,275
we are tipping these people off
to delete all evidence

825
00:39:07,275 --> 00:39:09,275
or to encrypt their devices,

826
00:39:09,275 --> 00:39:11,344
so you have
frustrating situations

827
00:39:11,344 --> 00:39:13,620
where people who have done
horrific things

828
00:39:13,620 --> 00:39:15,586
do not face the consequences.

829
00:39:15,586 --> 00:39:17,482
Connor: I broke my own rule,

830
00:39:17,482 --> 00:39:19,482
which I regret doing.

831
00:39:19,482 --> 00:39:21,655
I could have reached out
to McDonald Police Department

832
00:39:21,655 --> 00:39:23,724
and they could have gotten
that warrant

833
00:39:23,724 --> 00:39:25,793
and nothing
would have been encrypted.

834
00:39:25,793 --> 00:39:27,310
Who knows?

835
00:39:27,310 --> 00:39:31,379
Some things get reported to us,
such as Kero The Wolf's case,

836
00:39:31,379 --> 00:39:33,517
and no arrests are made.

837
00:39:33,517 --> 00:39:36,137
It's just the luck of the draw,

838
00:39:36,137 --> 00:39:38,620
as I call it.

839
00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:40,758
♪♪

840
00:39:40,758 --> 00:39:42,586
We grow up thinking that,
you know,

841
00:39:42,586 --> 00:39:45,103
these police have
all this cutting-edge technology

842
00:39:45,103 --> 00:39:46,413
and they have, you know, like,

843
00:39:46,413 --> 00:39:48,413
these super hackers
behind the scenes,

844
00:39:48,413 --> 00:39:49,827
like the stuff you see on TV,

845
00:39:49,827 --> 00:39:51,275
and especially when the FBI
get involved

846
00:39:51,275 --> 00:39:52,482
and Homeland gets involved,
you know,

847
00:39:52,482 --> 00:39:53,793
you think that they have

848
00:39:53,793 --> 00:39:55,862
all of these
Big Tech-type people

849
00:39:55,862 --> 00:39:57,620
where they can go in
and they can --

850
00:39:57,620 --> 00:40:00,448
they can recover anything
and restore,

851
00:40:00,448 --> 00:40:02,896
and we realized that
that actually wasn't the case.

852
00:40:02,896 --> 00:40:06,172
♪♪

853
00:40:06,172 --> 00:40:09,655
What evidence could have been
on those hard drives

854
00:40:09,655 --> 00:40:11,793
they weren't gonna be able
to have.

855
00:40:11,793 --> 00:40:14,000
The only consequence
that really came of it

856
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,965
was his brand, his label,

857
00:40:16,965 --> 00:40:18,586
his -- his character

858
00:40:18,586 --> 00:40:21,620
was not gonna be seen
in the same light again.

859
00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:23,482
♪♪

860
00:40:23,482 --> 00:40:26,172
But Kero The wolf --

861
00:40:26,172 --> 00:40:28,000
he's not gonna get any justice.

862
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,965
He's not.

863
00:40:29,965 --> 00:40:33,448
♪♪

864
00:40:33,448 --> 00:40:38,344
Kero had power
to suppress the narrative.

865
00:40:38,344 --> 00:40:39,724
If this would have been true,

866
00:40:39,724 --> 00:40:41,482
I would not be here
talking to you today.

867
00:40:41,482 --> 00:40:42,931
I would be in jail.

868
00:40:42,931 --> 00:40:46,241
Patch: But Kero
was just the tip of the iceberg.

869
00:40:46,241 --> 00:40:47,689
♪♪

870
00:40:47,689 --> 00:40:49,655
It was much worse
than Kero The Wolf.

871
00:40:49,655 --> 00:40:52,413
♪♪

872
00:40:52,413 --> 00:40:54,620
Connor: There were individuals
in the leaks

873
00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:57,551
which were more graphic
than others.

874
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,758
Like, you think
that it wasn't gonna get worse.

875
00:41:04,758 --> 00:41:07,241
♪♪

876
00:41:07,241 --> 00:41:09,793
But then it kept getting worse.

877
00:41:09,793 --> 00:41:12,241
Patch:
This was a global operation.

878
00:41:19,620 --> 00:41:22,862
Naia: We didn't know
who created this video.

879
00:41:22,862 --> 00:41:24,241
♪♪

880
00:41:24,241 --> 00:41:27,793
They did horrible things
to this dog

881
00:41:27,793 --> 00:41:30,620
and recorded a video
to trade with each other.

882
00:41:30,620 --> 00:41:33,448
♪♪

883
00:41:36,689 --> 00:41:37,965
He knows
what he is doing is wrong,

884
00:41:38,103 --> 00:41:40,517
but he didn't really care.

885
00:41:40,655 --> 00:41:41,931
Woman: If he could
do that to an animal,

886
00:41:42,034 --> 00:41:44,344
what stops him
from doing that to a person?

887
00:41:44,482 --> 00:41:47,000
I am literally chasing monsters.

888
00:41:51,379 --> 00:41:58,517
♪♪

889
00:41:58,517 --> 00:42:05,758
♪♪

890
00:42:05,758 --> 00:42:12,931
♪♪

891
00:42:12,931 --> 00:42:20,275
♪♪