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Grace Lavery / Joseph Lavery & Daniel M. Lavery / Mallory Ortberg - "Straight with extra steps" couple trooning out to avoid "dwindling into mere heterosexuality"
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If Mo & Joe had kids I'd care, but as it is I find them wasting their money to be really
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Keeping track of Joe should be easy since he's quarantined, but he is bouncing down to the lobby, out into the hallway, and now he's out of the hotel and back to wherever he normally stays.
The "fabulous outfit." Unclear whether Joe had this in another closet or if it's newly purchased.
Does this sound like Joe?
Wearing the outfit and going elsewhere. Maybe a roommate that didn't want him coughing everywhere.
Thirsting over David Koresh.
Remember when he was going to get a second set of knuckle tattoos to be in service of women or whatever the fuck? What happened?
This is where he posed for his tooth pic.
Feel better, Joe! You can't rage properly like this.
this got me
Keeping track of Joe should be easy since he's quarantined, but he is bouncing down to the lobby, out into the hallway, and now he's out of the hotel and back to wherever he normally stays.
The "fabulous outfit." Unclear whether Joe had this in another closet or if it's newly purchased.
Does this sound like Joe?
Wearing the outfit and going elsewhere. Maybe a roommate that didn't want him coughing everywhere.
Thirsting over David Koresh.
Remember when he was going to get a second set of knuckle tattoos to be in service of women or whatever the fuck? What happened?
This is where he posed for his tooth pic.
Feel better, Joe! You can't rage properly like this.
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Aw, both Mallory and Lily sent Joe individual care packages, rather than one big one from their seamlessly blended household, how sweet! It’s totally not like they’re competing or anything.
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Rather: it’s not like it’s even a competition, is it, Mal? *cue way too shrill forced laughter*
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Well, I won’t be following Soleil Ho anymore.
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I had no idea who she is and still don't really, but that giant stick-and-poke chest tattoo is... bad. Bad in a world of bad tattoos.
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I don’t follow this thread but I heard about the Gawker article somewhere else. Has Mallory acknowledged that she let a dozen fake letters from the same person through yet?
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Assuming the news even got to her,
This private information is unavailable to guests due to policies enforced by third-parties.
Should be fairly easy, but I don't think she could do it convincingly enough. Going by the quality of her current works anything she says would come off as a masked crying wojak.
You know, this one:
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Mallory sent him one and Lily's was on the way. In other words, Joe bitched about not getting one from her after getting Mallory's and she promised she'd
In Mallory's defense, we're in clown world now. No matter how crazy the letter might be, there's a decent chance that an actual retard (instead of just a pretend one) wrote it.
Joe is doing an in-person live podcast event on the 26th, which is "two days out of quarantine." Aside from the fact that "leaving quarantine" requires that he have significantly improved symptoms and no fever, which he can't actually predict, that means that either a) he had symptoms for TWO FULL DAYS before trying to board a cross-country flight and didn't bother getting tested before going to an INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT, or b) he's unilaterally decided that quarantine is only 8 days for fancy elites with Substack deals.
Of all the things for which to create a public health hazard, a live podcast recording? This seems like possibly the most irresponsible thing Joe's done, in a very crowded field.
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Of all the things for which to create a public health hazard, a live podcast recording? This seems like possibly the most irresponsible thing Joe's done, in a very crowded field.
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It’s their upward mobility class aspirations that are revealing. It’s where you see how wealthy they want to be.
It’s how we see that everything they’ve ever done is clutching for that next rung on the cool ladder. Even their transness is aspirational because it grants membership into an untouchable powerful group.
They want to be special.
You sure won’t find them wearing Old Navy or shopping at Walmart. You won’t find them with a bottle of Dorothy Lynch or Hidden Valley Ranch. You won’t find them with a McD Big Mac or a trashy 7-11 Diet Pepsi. You won’t find them at a rodeo or a country music concert or a Dollar Store or a Crate and Barrel even! It’s gotta be shit from a boutique.
Even if they are straight with extra steps they can’t be straight looking or acting. My GOD! That would be so suburban and white and gross.
Nevermind that way over half of the regular people they claim to speak for in America love all that stuff because it’s just customary, normal life.
There are people who literally eat hotdogs, Doritos, and Sam Adams beer with Rice Krispie treats for dessert and who have mind blowing spousal relationships and whose ideal vacation ever is Cancun, Branson, the gulf coast, or the Bahamas.
I laugh heartily to think of Josephina and Malcolm driving up to a barbecue with those people. They’d be welcomed and loved actually. Regular people aren’t douche canoes. But can you imagine how sputtering and blah Joe and Mal would be? What would they do if they couldn’t tell dick jokes to grandma or wear see through mesh shirts around the kids? Would there be enough vinegar? Would Joe be expected to drink Hi C orange from a spouted cooler?
Meanwhile everyone else living in his highly populous neighborhood(s) are doing all the work for Covid.
But hey isn’t he a commie in it all for the greater good? Yeah, yeah. Another hypocritical communist? What a surprise.
It’s how we see that everything they’ve ever done is clutching for that next rung on the cool ladder. Even their transness is aspirational because it grants membership into an untouchable powerful group.
They want to be special.
You sure won’t find them wearing Old Navy or shopping at Walmart. You won’t find them with a bottle of Dorothy Lynch or Hidden Valley Ranch. You won’t find them with a McD Big Mac or a trashy 7-11 Diet Pepsi. You won’t find them at a rodeo or a country music concert or a Dollar Store or a Crate and Barrel even! It’s gotta be shit from a boutique.
Even if they are straight with extra steps they can’t be straight looking or acting. My GOD! That would be so suburban and white and gross.
Nevermind that way over half of the regular people they claim to speak for in America love all that stuff because it’s just customary, normal life.
There are people who literally eat hotdogs, Doritos, and Sam Adams beer with Rice Krispie treats for dessert and who have mind blowing spousal relationships and whose ideal vacation ever is Cancun, Branson, the gulf coast, or the Bahamas.
I laugh heartily to think of Josephina and Malcolm driving up to a barbecue with those people. They’d be welcomed and loved actually. Regular people aren’t douche canoes. But can you imagine how sputtering and blah Joe and Mal would be? What would they do if they couldn’t tell dick jokes to grandma or wear see through mesh shirts around the kids? Would there be enough vinegar? Would Joe be expected to drink Hi C orange from a spouted cooler?
Because of course he is.
Meanwhile everyone else living in his highly populous neighborhood(s) are doing all the work for Covid.
But hey isn’t he a commie in it all for the greater good? Yeah, yeah. Another hypocritical communist? What a surprise.
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I am typing this from a large international airport in California. Before I checked in for my flight today, I had to attest that I had not had a positive covid test in the last TEN days, or any symptoms in 3.
It'd be a real shame if someone in Mallory's boyfriend's group of buddies told the SFO or OAK authorities that someone who popped a positive test literally at the airport testing center a week ago is trying to board a flight. According to the thing I signed off on, knowingly lying on that form could lead to federal charges.
It'd be a real shame if someone in Mallory's boyfriend's group of buddies told the SFO or OAK authorities that someone who popped a positive test literally at the airport testing center a week ago is trying to board a flight. According to the thing I signed off on, knowingly lying on that form could lead to federal charges.
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Ironic then that Joe is ripping off the style and panache of a 55 year old lady that works as HR manager at an Iowa DMV, shops at Dress Barn, loves Grey’s Anatomy and lunches at Applebee’s like a boss.
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Christ, you could use his upper lip as a brillo pad, which is also what you'd need to get that thick layer of scum off his nasty teeth.
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Sigils full of magik (drawn by women, wasn’t it?) To remind him to be in service to women. So spiritual. Must be related to his masturbation spells he warbled on about in that pretentious, poseur, interview he gave w/ the fellow bunkerslut artist. Work- with his hands- sigils- drawn by women. Iirc, he said he may even get the next set of sigils drawn up by troons.
Is that a few strays on his chest?:
(Photo from Trianon’s post just upthread. Couldn’t render the magnifying any clearer atm.)
Michelle Tea, she was popular a few decades ago, wrote that lesbian themed mini novel, Valencia, a while back. 20 years? I never much cared for her work. Is she a troon too now? She’d fit the bill of the coastal “queer” type that Joe longs for & to be part of. I recall a couple people in literary circles thinking her (Tea) hot shit, in the early 2000’s. So of course Joe name drops her.
I think you could still say lesbian when Valencia came out, w/ out troon bs shoved down yr throat, but it was slowly creeping in from behind. Joe’d now. Yuck, I think I sold my copy of Tea’s subpar work, 10+ years ago. Never followed her on SM. Not a great book, honestly, no Joe about it. From what I recall I can see them in similar enough circles.
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She has not and will not. I know people have tweeted it at her, but the same prudishness that let her scoff at the letters in the first place will prevent her from ever acknowledging this. Plus, the guy basically pitched her a reason not to get involved. A nemesis cannot dignify their nemesis with a response, as it would only make him happy. If she never addresses it, she gets to either be in on the joke or above it all, whichever feels better to you.
She is currently congratulating the new Dear Prudence for being a prude.
AGH, he took down an Instagram post related to this before I could archive it. It had this weird Q&A section where he was like, "BUT GRACE, WON'T YOU BE TOO SICK?" "NO, FOOL!* I AM GETTING OUT OF QUARANTINE AND PEGGING** IT TO HOLLYWOOD!"
*"No, fool!" was definitely in there.
**"Pegging" was definitely the word he used.
I don't know why he took it down, but maybe he finally got a comment begging him to stay home.
Here are some memoir pages:
This is going to be a fucking mess.
And you should definitely not still have a "mild fever" right before rushing out of quarantine. Like for real.
He's so hideous and stupid.
He also drew a tarot card of cope. Miser? Joe? Vast wealth getting smaller all the time, huh?
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I saw that Instagram post too, it also definitely said he was getting out of quarantine on Saturday (he actually said "Saturday," not a relative term).
Joe said that he "woke up with symptoms" on Thursday, Sept. 16th. If we believe this, then his quarantine ends ON Sunday the 26th, not "on Saturday":
...and he definitely won't be "two days out" on Sunday the 26th.
However, on Thursday the 16th, he also said that Mallory convinced him to get tested before boarding the plane, which suggests to me that he'd been bitching about feeling sick before the day of his flight:
If he woke up with symptoms on the morning of the 16th, then he's lying about when his quarantine ends to make attending this retarded podcast taping look like a less sociopathic proposition than it actually is. But if he had symptoms before the morning of the 16th, then he lied about that to cover up the fact that he'd been sick for 2+ days and still tried to board a flight.
Just imagine being one of those other podcast guests and having to sit next to Joe, who was loudly and publicly having a COVID fever just a couple of days earlier.
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Replying to several posts, hopefully I don't fuck this up, am mobilefag
He only made that post about the farms a week or so ago because students have brought it up, guarantee it. I bet some dropped the class after they googled their teacher. Maybe even went to their advisor, like Oh, I just need to have more time to myself" but the advisor will say "but really, we can't serve students better unless we know why exactly" and they spill it's because they are uncomfy with a pervert teacher teaching perverted porn poems that must be actually said verbally verbatim. This allll gets back to the dept head, I assure you. Or students prolly even asked him outright, "that's a different Grace lavery right? I googled your dissertation and it came up" or something. I'm sure some teachers who have befriended him have told him who the other faculty are that talk about him. And how they want to get rid of him. This is simply narc damage control.
Let's take a walk down memory lane shall we? Anyone remember Hugo Schwyzer? The feminist Prof who was Also a predator? (Not a troon,just a beta straight man who went bipolar all the time) His milk was pretty good back in the day. These days he's working at trader Joe's and says he's happy with his life. Good for him I guess. The uni can't exactly go after him for any money they lost in his scandals.
Joe appeared in a couple advice or articles or podcasts together with Hugo , and I may have it bookmarked on my laptop that needs a plug and battery, but I can't find it for the life of me now searching goolag. Cleaning the internet of your past inconvenient associations Joe? (Prolly not, I am but a Boomer)
Joe, u and Schwyzer are basically the same. You are predators who hide behind "Feminism." It's very simple. You both use your platforms to perv on women, no matter how descrete u think u are, we got u figured out.
It is only a matter of time until he propositions a student, likely female, of course younger,as is his type. After he transes her of course.
Also whenare u gonna get drunk and tweet again Joe? That's my favorite
You know u can drink on covid right? Clear liquids for the mucus is recommended
*waves* Hi Joe! Hi Joseph! Us bitches can see right thru you, fucking predator, pushing your dumb garrishly made-up wanabe bimbo self persona into our fucking spaces. And your coworkers ALL AGREE. You are an awful person before you trooned (and you ARE the definition of a cartoon tranny) I hope to read one day that one *true honest bitch* actual XX card carrying *true and honest* bimbo cuts your dick off in the bathroom. I figure some bitch black bitch who Aint Got Time For Dis Shiit. Joe, Joseph, Jos, make sure your uni has good diversity admissions! We need some honest black women to make u uncomfy in your wanabe rich white girl intellectual safe place.
I ain't black and Cali sucks and I don't play minecraft. But a *true and honest* girl can dreaaaammmm
It's hard for me to consider him an "educator" when he is such a damn hypocrite. Has he ever mentioned student loans? Not being able to afford stuff while in undergrad etc? Was his college education all paid for, Not by him?
Is he getting Any of his flights and hotels paid for by the university? My only experience with reimbursements for school club stuff was as a student advisor, and we had to fight for every penny. (I'm totally over it now, I have a lot of things to say about college funds, and also United Counsel (may only be wi?) And trying to hold find raisers for poor students or day care or whatever. But I won't shit up the thread, just asking how we can find out? Universities have to have transparency and in my college time I saw several controversies regarding Where Does Your Tuition Go? And some savvy students would dig up these records, and the school fought them on it,but it was considered publically available.. if you could find it. Or convince the university to let you have the access. And when they did, it made the papers.
It makes me sick when profs like him are basically milking the university - it prevents the smart Poor's from getting into college , or staying in college, because the money goes to assholes like Joe instead of towards the actual student and their education. (I know I know, college tuition costs sperging not appropriate here)
True educators take on the "vow of simple living" (well versus poverty) ,because teaching is a CALLING. Joe doesn't care - he's a narc who just wants prestige of saying he's a uni Prof. Look at my teapot! I'm am educator!
Does Joe ever talk about raising money for students in crisis, or adding to crisis funds for students etc? I haven't seen him do that yet. This also says to me he can't be bothered with University Life and Community - only what involves his inflated ego.
ALL TROONS ARE HYPOCRITES , in some way or another.
He only made that post about the farms a week or so ago because students have brought it up, guarantee it. I bet some dropped the class after they googled their teacher. Maybe even went to their advisor, like Oh, I just need to have more time to myself" but the advisor will say "but really, we can't serve students better unless we know why exactly" and they spill it's because they are uncomfy with a pervert teacher teaching perverted porn poems that must be actually said verbally verbatim. This allll gets back to the dept head, I assure you. Or students prolly even asked him outright, "that's a different Grace lavery right? I googled your dissertation and it came up" or something. I'm sure some teachers who have befriended him have told him who the other faculty are that talk about him. And how they want to get rid of him. This is simply narc damage control.
Let's take a walk down memory lane shall we? Anyone remember Hugo Schwyzer? The feminist Prof who was Also a predator? (Not a troon,just a beta straight man who went bipolar all the time) His milk was pretty good back in the day. These days he's working at trader Joe's and says he's happy with his life. Good for him I guess. The uni can't exactly go after him for any money they lost in his scandals.
Joe appeared in a couple advice or articles or podcasts together with Hugo , and I may have it bookmarked on my laptop that needs a plug and battery, but I can't find it for the life of me now searching goolag. Cleaning the internet of your past inconvenient associations Joe? (Prolly not, I am but a Boomer)
Joe, u and Schwyzer are basically the same. You are predators who hide behind "Feminism." It's very simple. You both use your platforms to perv on women, no matter how descrete u think u are, we got u figured out.
It is only a matter of time until he propositions a student, likely female, of course younger,as is his type. After he transes her of course.
Also whenare u gonna get drunk and tweet again Joe? That's my favorite
You know u can drink on covid right? Clear liquids for the mucus is recommended*waves* Hi Joe! Hi Joseph! Us bitches can see right thru you, fucking predator, pushing your dumb garrishly made-up wanabe bimbo self persona into our fucking spaces. And your coworkers ALL AGREE. You are an awful person before you trooned (and you ARE the definition of a cartoon tranny) I hope to read one day that one *true honest bitch* actual XX card carrying *true and honest* bimbo cuts your dick off in the bathroom. I figure some bitch black bitch who Aint Got Time For Dis Shiit. Joe, Joseph, Jos, make sure your uni has good diversity admissions! We need some honest black women to make u uncomfy in your wanabe rich white girl intellectual safe place.
I ain't black and Cali sucks and I don't play minecraft. But a *true and honest* girl can dreaaaammmm
It's hard for me to consider him an "educator" when he is such a damn hypocrite. Has he ever mentioned student loans? Not being able to afford stuff while in undergrad etc? Was his college education all paid for, Not by him?
Is he getting Any of his flights and hotels paid for by the university? My only experience with reimbursements for school club stuff was as a student advisor, and we had to fight for every penny. (I'm totally over it now, I have a lot of things to say about college funds, and also United Counsel (may only be wi?) And trying to hold find raisers for poor students or day care or whatever. But I won't shit up the thread, just asking how we can find out? Universities have to have transparency and in my college time I saw several controversies regarding Where Does Your Tuition Go? And some savvy students would dig up these records, and the school fought them on it,but it was considered publically available.. if you could find it. Or convince the university to let you have the access. And when they did, it made the papers.
It makes me sick when profs like him are basically milking the university - it prevents the smart Poor's from getting into college , or staying in college, because the money goes to assholes like Joe instead of towards the actual student and their education. (I know I know, college tuition costs sperging not appropriate here)
True educators take on the "vow of simple living" (well versus poverty) ,because teaching is a CALLING. Joe doesn't care - he's a narc who just wants prestige of saying he's a uni Prof. Look at my teapot! I'm am educator!
Does Joe ever talk about raising money for students in crisis, or adding to crisis funds for students etc? I haven't seen him do that yet. This also says to me he can't be bothered with University Life and Community - only what involves his inflated ego.
ALL TROONS ARE HYPOCRITES , in some way or another.
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Uh so what was the racist thing that was said? I'm not seeing anything but I am not a prestigious academic. Also, lol at "Idk this nice guy seems like a racist!" - Months later "Our instincts were right!" Who knew that prejudice was so effective?