The Orville appreciation thread - IE, the actual new Star Trek

[Calandrino]

I don't want to sound like an SJW, but Darulio basically raped her. He was going to rape Mercer too, apparently. This was all played for laughs and they should have been outraged at Darulio for not telling them about his pheromones or whatever.

With Seth being both the writer and the star, and dating a (former) cast member, I get a bit curious about the subtext of these relationship plots.

Spoiler

Mercer being worn out by the younger version of Kelly explains itself... I probably don't want to know the real-life story of having gay homosexual queer anal buttsex in the ass with the guy who cucked him. Keep that stuff to yourself buddy.

And I was sure Talla would be leaving once they ran out of Alara scripts but I guess not? I mean... I was looking forward to her leaving.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

With Seth being both the writer and the star, and dating a (former) cast member, I get a bit curious about the subtext of these relationship plots.

I think Darulio showing up and having his "Pheramones" was a way to absolve Kelly of the cheating more than anything else.

And I was sure Talla would be leaving once they ran out of Alara scripts but I guess not? I mean... I was looking forward to her leaving.

She is totally a "replacement" Alara, but I am willing to give her a chance to earn her position. She hasn't done anything to actively annoy me.

 

[melty]

I thought it was pretty obvious. The specter of Kelly's infidelity had been hanging over her relationship with Mercer since the pilot, and to some degree (given her extremely apologetic attitude about it) it never made sense. The writers had to find a way to explain and nullify it... and by making the guy she slept with so irresistible that MERCER (who is straight) can't resist sleeping with him too, they remove the weight of that sin from Kelly's shoulders.

Late, but Family Guy did almost this exact plot with Lois sleeping with Bill Clinton. She feels guilty and gives Peter a free pass, but he chooses not to use it out of love for Lois. But at the end of the episode he can't resist also sleeping with Bill Clinton, thus things return to normal.

It's the only Orville plot I've really noticed is ripped off from Family Guy, though.

 

[Calandrino]

I thought it was pretty obvious. The specter of Kelly's infidelity had been hanging over her relationship with Mercer since the pilot, and to some degree (given her extremely apologetic attitude about it) it never made sense. The writers had to find a way to explain and nullify it... and by making the guy she slept with so irresistible that MERCER (who is straight) can't resist sleeping with him too, they remove the weight of that sin from Kelly's shoulders.

I suspect that they planned it all from the beginning. It was an odd thread to leave hanging, with no elaboration, until they finally completely explain it away.

Late, but Family Guy did almost this exact plot with Lois sleeping with Bill Clinton.

Further disturbing evidence that it was inspired by true events!

 

[Miller]

Apparently some people have started rumors about the show being cancelled after the third season. According to Nerdrotic it's not true.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Apparently some people have started rumors about the show being cancelled after the third season. According to Nerdrotic it's not true.

I mean it was moved to Hulu, sounds like an unfortunately convenient excuse to can it.

Which is a shame, it is the best Star Trek Show to happen since DS9 Ended.

 

[Polyboros2]

Yeah it’s the Nosedive episode of Black Mirror (written by Rashida Jones and Michael Schur of The Office/Parks & Rec fame) Black Mirror can be hit or miss because it’s an anthology series with the common theme being the dark consequences of technology on human behaviour. Nosedive is one of my favourite episodes because it’s lighter in tone, and it’s a fun but poignant commentary on the ways we humiliate and imprison ourselves for the sake of social credit.

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Really looking forward to seeing what season 3 of The Orville has in store! We went into it expecting Family Guy in space, but instead found a legit love letter to Star Trek TNG. The first couple of episodes were nothing to write home about, but pretty much everything else since has scratched that nostalgic TNG itch for me.

Are the stories or concepts especially original? No, Seth clearly borrowed and took inspiration from ideas that already existed in the Star Trek universe, but he does create a very loving homage to those ideas which is more than I can say about Alex Kurtzman and all his shitty reboots/STD.

The really damning thing about The Orville is the low bar of success. The show is decent milk toast SciFi. Their essential hitting a T-ball just past the bases and it's embarrassing to the actual Star Trek being made.

With Seth being both the writer and the star, and dating a (former) cast member, I get a bit curious about the subtext of these relationship plots.

Spoiler

Mercer being worn out by the younger version of Kelly explains itself... I probably don't want to know the real-life story of having gay homosexual queer anal buttsex in the ass with the guy who cucked him. Keep that stuff to yourself buddy.

And I was sure Talla would be leaving once they ran out of Alara scripts but I guess not? I mean... I was looking forward to her leaving.

I wish she would. It seemed they were finally trying to give her personality in the Hetero-Maklan and time shifted Kelly episodes, but she's the weakest character and I wish they had used an entirely new alien as the replacement.

Any word on why they only have the one prosthetic ear for her? It annoys me in every scene.

 

[Jean Lafitte 1812]

Just re-watched the first 2 seasons in prep for the third season premiere and since the wait for The Orville Season 3 made me end up watching TNG-era Star Trek for the first time. It was nice being able to appreciate all the little nods to Trek that are in the series this time around.

Really hoping they keep a comic book or something going if they do get cancelled. I'm surprised it's survived the Disney consolidation this far, so at least we'll get a third season at minimum.

 

[Kiyoshi's Wristbrace]

Just re-watched the first 2 seasons in prep for the third season premiere and since the wait for The Orville Season 3 made me end up watching TNG-era Star Trek for the first time. It was nice being able to appreciate all the little nods to Trek that are in the series this time around.

Really hoping they keep a comic book or something going if they do get cancelled. I'm surprised it's survived the Disney consolidation this far, so at least we'll get a third season at minimum.

I just hope someone else picks them up. Same as how Hulu did after Fox cancelled.

If it's popular enough, it will. I enjoy scifi like this. Way better than trying to talk Trek anywhere else these days, for sure.

 

[CORRUPT🍀]

I liked the one episode I saw. Keep in mind I've never watched star trek. Ever. So anyway they had these scabby faced monster dudes who got hooked on menthols. Shit was real funny

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

I liked the one episode I saw. Keep in mind I've never watched star trek. Ever. So anyway they had these scabby faced monster dudes who got hooked on menthols. Shit was real funny

You know this made me think.

Between the Addiction to Cigarettes and then the porn addiction..does Bortus have a predisposition for addiction?

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]

You know this made me think.

Between the Addiction to Cigarettes and then the porn addiction..does Bortus have a predisposition for addiction?

No, he's just a fun guy to be around.

 

[UnKillFill]

You know this made me think.

Between the Addiction to Cigarettes and then the porn addiction..does Bortus have a predisposition for addiction?

Who me?

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

You know this made me think.

Between the Addiction to Cigarettes and then the porn addiction..does Bortus have a predisposition for addiction?

Wasn’t the porn addiction due in part to him resenting his husband for going along with changing their baby’s sex?

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Wasn’t the porn addiction due in part to him resenting his husband for going along with changing their baby’s sex?

It was, but I doubt it would have gotten so extreme if he weren't legit addicted.

 

[Miller]

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Who me?

They still have that prosthetic. I think this was filmed at last year's SDCC:

 

[Kiyoshi's Wristbrace]

You know this made me think.

Between the Addiction to Cigarettes and then the porn addiction..does Bortus have a predisposition for addiction?

Any characteristics of this guy would be welcome. I liked the cast for the most part, but Bortus and Klyden came off the most cardboard to me. Fairly flat. Bortus is getting more stuff, slowly but surely, but he got way too many episodes dedicated to him.

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

Any characteristics of this guy would be welcome. I liked the cast for the most part, but Bortus and Klyden came off the most cardboard to me. Fairly flat. Bortus is getting more stuff, slowly but surely, but he got way too many episodes dedicated to him.

The Bortus/Woke stuff gets a little too heavy handed for me but in the era of Star Trek: Fucktard and Tillys Fupaquest the show still feels like an oasis in the desert.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

What I love about the show in general is how I can head-canon connections between it and the end of DS9. Kassidy Yates remarried some guy named Finn to give birth to Claire, the Kryll were Remans trying to cure themselves of their melanin deficiency by messing around with Jem'Hadar DNA, which is why the Kryll high priest is also the Jem'Hadar First that beat up Worf. The Union formed because all the Federation races were so disgusted by how the Dominion War went that they split up, forcing humanity to deal with other races. Because of this massive shift away from the Federal system the Federation used, the Union decided to work more like a confederacy, which is why the Moclans are allowed to maintain their own standing military despite being important council members.

What I dislike about the show is how they keep remaking good TNG episodes instead of remaking bad TNG ones like the one that aped The Wounded. They couldn't hit that high mark and it was a pointless episode as a result. What they could have done instead is try to remake The Outrageous Okona where Lamar's ex-girlfriends with the two heads shows up pregnant and demand he clarify who the (emotional) mother of their child actually is. Because the best episodes in this show are girly, relationship stuff, not the space battles.

 

[BIG BILL HELL'S]