Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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This one is worth saving, I think . It's long and the video audio quality isn't great, but this lady collected the tik-tok saga of FTM 'Alex Mack' who had hundreds of thousands of dollars in surgeries during the Covid pandemic, just to end up with .... health problems and a non-functioning flesh tube. I wonder how many surgeries were delayed because this sick girl needed validation.

Edit: Channel is TT Exulansic, she is also very active on tiktok apparently: @Exulansicbeta.

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late kinda, but that woman seems nice. really seems to care. also she looks hella like margaret something, who played the wicked witch in the wizard of oz, who was also a very nice person.

Edit wow that was actually so depressing that after the countdown, i really thought they were going to jump off the golden gate bridge. Would have been a pretty dramatic twist.
urine coming out of “somewhere in my scrotum” was..
Oof.
why you would ever, ever risk all this for what?
also WHY are there so many campy gay-guy looking FTMs? i don’t get it? How could you feel alright about just assuming the identity of guys who have pretty firmly stated they don’t wanna have sex w female bodies.
And just literally what is the point or difference in lifestyle or presentation, significant enough that it’s worth it?
Just seems like extreme commodity-fetishism of the male form. Doesn’t really make sense in any other framework.
 
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also WHY are there so many campy gay-guy looking FTMs? i don’t get it? How could you feel alright about just assuming the identity of guys who have pretty firmly stated they don’t wanna have sex w female bodies.
A lot of these women are completely delusional and believe that skinwalking as a camp gay man will actually turn them into a gay man and that, somehow, will attract true and honest gay men to fuck them and fulfill their fetish. It's a ploy to play on stereotypes and, in some severe cases, rape gay men by deception like a certain Lou Sullivan did — she is credited in "queer history" as a "trans activist", but later admitted to Ray Blanchard that she would only partially undress during intercourse to conceal her sex from the men she was sleeping with. She even claimed that contracting and dying of AIDS was "proof that [she] really attained [her] goal of being a gay man". Tumblr likes to credit her as a "founding father" of straight women invading gay male spaces.

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hey missed you guys. I decided to delve into the world of neovagina imaging studies again. If you get confused about any of these look for the spine bones to figure out which side their ass is on.

For purposes of comparison, I will post a pic of a normal human female's pelvis with an actual vagina.

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you can see that the outermost portion looks very narrow, with more space opening up as you look towards the cervix and uterus. that's a pretty normal shape. things shift around with the cervix over the course of the menstrual cycle, but this is basically what you would expect to see when doing pelvic imaging from the side (saggital).

the next set of images is what I call "the best case scenario" of neovaginas. The neovagina is not closing in on itself. The shape is straight enough that douching is plausibly effective. A man could fuck these. compare these to the normal woman above:
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these are dedicated dilators. it is so abnormal. I cannot imagine what it is like to try and swim with this. water must just slosh up there.

the next one is a neovagina that basically healed in on itself so it is barely a canal.

squished.jpg the arrow is pointing at the "vagina". It looks like a pencil could be put in there? a finger? idk. P=prostate and R=rectum. It is straight and seems to be one thickness throughout.

which brings us to this crazy ass thing:
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that white thing that looks like a single quotation mark is the neovagina. The inset bracket reading "5 mm" is pointing out that a mere 5 millimeters of tissue lay between the neovagina their rectum. the description says some kind of gel was used inside the neovag to try and evaluate for fistula. so it is like blowing up a balloon or something, this is the shape that this person's SRS ultimately took. It looks impossible to clean.

the next person seems to have had one of the rammed-open type neovaginas that I showed as the best case scenario, but it has been decreasing in length over time.
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here is one with residual erectile tissue. the arrow is pointing at the erectile tissue:
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the paper I got most of these from has imaging from all kinds of troon surgeries. you have to scroll down through a lot of pics of bolt on tits (yawn) before you get to the SRS. I left out a bunch of abscess MRIs, they all amount to "the arrow is where the pus pocket is!" and it is in a basically random location so it isn't very revealing. as a bonus here is what happens when you put contrast up the urethra of someone with a neophallus w/urinary problems (and really, who the fuck pees normally after that surgery?):
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the smaller arrow points out a kink in the hose preventing normal voiding. It is happening basically at the point where the normal urethra ends and the constructed one begins. the human body does not like being frankensteined.

I'll post more of these when I have more time, I need to check up on other boards because I have been neglecting the internet for at least a month.
 
hey missed you guys. I decided to delve into the world of neovagina imaging studies again. If you get confused about any of these look for the spine bones to figure out which side their ass is on.

For purposes of comparison, I will post a pic of a normal human female's pelvis with an actual vagina.

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you can see that the outermost portion looks very narrow, with more space opening up as you look towards the cervix and uterus. that's a pretty normal shape. things shift around with the cervix over the course of the menstrual cycle, but this is basically what you would expect to see when doing pelvic imaging from the side (saggital).

the next set of images is what I call "the best case scenario" of neovaginas. The neovagina is not closing in on itself. The shape is straight enough that douching is plausibly effective. A man could fuck these. compare these to the normal woman above:
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these are dedicated dilators. it is so abnormal. I cannot imagine what it is like to try and swim with this. water must just slosh up there.

the next one is a neovagina that basically healed in on itself so it is barely a canal.

View attachment 2588459 the arrow is pointing at the "vagina". It looks like a pencil could be put in there? a finger? idk. P=prostate and R=rectum. It is straight and seems to be one thickness throughout.

which brings us to this crazy ass thing:
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that white thing that looks like a single quotation mark is the neovagina. The inset bracket reading "5 mm" is pointing out that a mere 5 millimeters of tissue lay between the neovagina their rectum. the description says some kind of gel was used inside the neovag to try and evaluate for fistula. so it is like blowing up a balloon or something, this is the shape that this person's SRS ultimately took. It looks impossible to clean.

the next person seems to have had one of the rammed-open type neovaginas that I showed as the best case scenario, but it has been decreasing in length over time.
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here is one with residual erectile tissue. the arrow is pointing at the erectile tissue:
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the paper I got most of these from has imaging from all kinds of troon surgeries. you have to scroll down through a lot of pics of bolt on tits (yawn) before you get to the SRS. I left out a bunch of abscess MRIs, they all amount to "the arrow is where the pus pocket is!" and it is in a basically random location so it isn't very revealing. as a bonus here is what happens when you put contrast up the urethra of someone with a neophallus w/urinary problems (and really, who the fuck pees normally after that surgery?):
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the smaller arrow points out a kink in the hose preventing normal voiding. It is happening basically at the point where the normal urethra ends and the constructed one begins. the human body does not like being frankensteined.

I'll post more of these when I have more time, I need to check up on other boards because I have been neglecting the internet for at least a month.
I’m very disturbed by the fact that the neovag looks like someone took an eraser tool through their body.
 
Today I'm bringing you guys some treats from the medical journals.
Thanks for going after these nightmare inducing images and going through the trouble to post this here.
Well, whenever I think I've seen enough I still get surprised, these skin grafts are just terrifying to look at. It looks like a zombie from the walking dead tried to snack on it. I can never really, fully grasp anyone would put themselves though this willingly, without need and for what? A huge sausage dong.
 
Those pictures prove just how unnatural it is.
Absolutely. Cosmetically, "neovaginas" look like a sad facsimile at best, and a war injury at worst. Troons always deploy the cope of "aLL vAgiNaS LoOk diFFeReNt!" though. But these scans really drive the point home: NO, absolutely NONE of you EVER fool ANY gynecologist, EVER.
 
hey missed you guys. I decided to delve into the world of neovagina imaging studies again. If you get confused about any of these look for the spine bones to figure out which side their ass is on.

For purposes of comparison, I will post a pic of a normal human female's pelvis with an actual vagina.

View attachment 2588410
you can see that the outermost portion looks very narrow, with more space opening up as you look towards the cervix and uterus. that's a pretty normal shape. things shift around with the cervix over the course of the menstrual cycle, but this is basically what you would expect to see when doing pelvic imaging from the side (saggital).

the next set of images is what I call "the best case scenario" of neovaginas. The neovagina is not closing in on itself. The shape is straight enough that douching is plausibly effective. A man could fuck these. compare these to the normal woman above:
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these are dedicated dilators. it is so abnormal. I cannot imagine what it is like to try and swim with this. water must just slosh up there.

the next one is a neovagina that basically healed in on itself so it is barely a canal.

View attachment 2588459 the arrow is pointing at the "vagina". It looks like a pencil could be put in there? a finger? idk. P=prostate and R=rectum. It is straight and seems to be one thickness throughout.

which brings us to this crazy ass thing:
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that white thing that looks like a single quotation mark is the neovagina. The inset bracket reading "5 mm" is pointing out that a mere 5 millimeters of tissue lay between the neovagina their rectum. the description says some kind of gel was used inside the neovag to try and evaluate for fistula. so it is like blowing up a balloon or something, this is the shape that this person's SRS ultimately took. It looks impossible to clean.

the next person seems to have had one of the rammed-open type neovaginas that I showed as the best case scenario, but it has been decreasing in length over time.
View attachment 2588480

here is one with residual erectile tissue. the arrow is pointing at the erectile tissue:
View attachment 2588504

the paper I got most of these from has imaging from all kinds of troon surgeries. you have to scroll down through a lot of pics of bolt on tits (yawn) before you get to the SRS. I left out a bunch of abscess MRIs, they all amount to "the arrow is where the pus pocket is!" and it is in a basically random location so it isn't very revealing. as a bonus here is what happens when you put contrast up the urethra of someone with a neophallus w/urinary problems (and really, who the fuck pees normally after that surgery?):
View attachment 2588491
the smaller arrow points out a kink in the hose preventing normal voiding. It is happening basically at the point where the normal urethra ends and the constructed one begins. the human body does not like being frankensteined.

I'll post more of these when I have more time, I need to check up on other boards because I have been neglecting the internet for at least a month.
you can see that in the "best case" imaging, the channel is being held open- it's a dark area- white would be a void or opening that's empty, black means it's an opaque object holding it open for the images. either a soft dilator of some kind or filled with imaging gel.

edit to add: all surgery is unnatural. these are very risky and patients are given false expectations; that's the bigger issue at hand.
 
Meet reddit user u/bonusdickboi and her "I want it all" vagina-preserving phalloplasty insanity. It's reminiscent of u/nonbinaryphallo (previously covered by @Falling Star and @Red Lobster HERE and HERE), but even more elaborate and bizarre.

The surgery specs:

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Translating mental patient to English -- by "T-dick" she means her overgrown clitoris.

Crime against nature committed by Dr. Mang Chen & the Buncke Clinic in California. This is apparently not even its final form, she mentions a "stage 3" surgery scheduled a few months down the road, but doesn't specify what it'll entail.

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And for those of you who still have some shreds of sanity they want to get rid of, she shared a clip of the thing in motion:

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She also posted a shot of the skin graft donor site (relatively healed over, just scarring). I have no idea how she was even walking around after this:

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u/bonusdickboi's rating of Chen and the Buncke gang's Lovecraftian magnum opus:

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She captioned one of the pics similar to the first one you posted "So happy I kept my clit exposed because now I can keep my favorite little mouth soooo busy!" – what's that even supposed to mean?

Do I even want to know?

How many holes does she have now? The pic bellow from this post is captioned "Kept my v, need to get railed stat!"

Caption: Kept my v, need to get railed stat!

So she now has clit balls (more like axe wound if you ask me – yay, the differencest between FTMs and MTFs are narrowing down!), true and honest female genital mutilation (that is the gaping hole without clitoris close to the neoballs), and then asshole in the back that the sphincter is keeping shut. Or am I looking at it wrong? Please, tell me I am. Truly an honest faggot this woman is. Or is this one "straight"? It seems they just about always larp as a faggot.

Who'd fuck any of this? I can imagine somebody trying at least once to fuck a MTF that has cut the only interesting thing chasers are after (his dick, the money maker), but this?
 
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Meet reddit user u/bonusdickboi and her "I want it all" vagina-preserving phalloplasty insanity. It's reminiscent of u/nonbinaryphallo (previously covered by @Falling Star and @Red Lobster HERE and HERE), but even more elaborate and bizarre.

The surgery specs:

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Translating mental patient to English -- by "T-dick" she means her overgrown clitoris.

Crime against nature committed by Dr. Mang Chen & the Buncke Clinic in California. This is apparently not even its final form, she mentions a "stage 3" surgery scheduled a few months down the road, but doesn't specify what it'll entail.


And for those of you who still have some shreds of sanity they want to get rid of, she shared a clip of the thing in motion:


She also posted a shot of the skin graft donor site (relatively healed over, just scarring). I have no idea how she was even walking around after this:


u/bonusdickboi's rating of Chen and the Buncke gang's Lovecraftian magnum opus:

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Omg, fucking disgusting!! And her pussy looks like it's permanently a gaping tunnel. I don't think that's healthy.
 
Meet reddit user u/bonusdickboi and her "I want it all" vagina-preserving phalloplasty insanity. It's reminiscent of u/nonbinaryphallo (previously covered by @Falling Star and @Red Lobster HERE and HERE), but even more elaborate and bizarre.

The surgery specs:

View attachment 2589133

Translating mental patient to English -- by "T-dick" she means her overgrown clitoris.

Crime against nature committed by Dr. Mang Chen & the Buncke Clinic in California. This is apparently not even its final form, she mentions a "stage 3" surgery scheduled a few months down the road, but doesn't specify what it'll entail.


And for those of you who still have some shreds of sanity they want to get rid of, she shared a clip of the thing in motion:


She also posted a shot of the skin graft donor site (relatively healed over, just scarring). I have no idea how she was even walking around after this:


u/bonusdickboi's rating of Chen and the Buncke gang's Lovecraftian magnum opus:

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Edit -- Typo cleanup
Now, if it could only squirt
 
We talk about the ballsack skin "labia" often but the skin on ftm "testicles" also looks so offputting, somehow it looks too "tight" and unnatural, there should be some magical exchange program for ballsack/labia majora not looking uncanny valley.

This is a totally new approach that happens in two steps. Actually the best results I have ever seen. It's incredible how different results are - compare to Dr. Rumer. Amazing what actual urological surgeons can do. These guys were not able to receive any grants/funding for their work, and they advocate for better controls and longer wait times and multiple steps for better results. Still horrifying but notably better than so many other fucked up results we've seen.
I am actually very impressed, maybe the repeated gore lowered my expectations but that is the best "inner labia" in a neovag I've seen yet, plus minimal ballsack effect, obviously doesn't look right (somehow most of these "labia majora" seem... Too open? Too separated? I don't even know how to explain but they often look like they are just on the side of the rest of the "vulva", in parallel lines when they should be closer to a rhombus) but it's a valiant effort.

Once again it seems like if the trans patients were more... patient, and could wait for the doctors to take their time with multiple steps for the surgeries they could get some vastly improved results, everything has to be immediate and doctors go along with overachieving for the sake of money.

She even claimed that contracting and dying of AIDS was "proof that [she] really attained [her] goal of being a gay man".
Well, dying of AIDS for a fetish has been a very fringe part of the gay community so I guess she fits in? At least she is dead and can't rape more men by deception anymore, so can't say I am all that opposed to it in that case.

hey missed you guys. I decided to delve into the world of neovagina imaging studies again. If you get confused about any of these look for the spine bones to figure out which side their ass is on.
Fantastic finds, as always my feelings are "close the holes" but they want this so no one can really stop them.

Omg, fucking disgusting!! And her pussy looks like it's permanently a gaping tunnel. I don't think that's healthy.
We found the vag mtfs think every women has apparently. (still looks better than any of them regardless)

That donor site seems way too shallow, tho. Did she manage to get all the skin just from there? It's not pretty but 100% better than most of the degloving gore the arm crew usually get.
 
Today I'm bringing you guys some treats from the medical journals.

Nomination for best title: "Fertility Preservation: A Tale of Two Testicles"

Other notes: Do we need to screen neovaginas for HPV or cancers? Studies say no.
Autism rates amoung transgender inviduals is over 3x higher than cis peeps (lost link sorry).
FtMs have a different response to sexual stimuli than cismen.

Spoilers are NSFL
View attachment 2581801View attachment 2581805Two graft harvesting techniques intraoperative images: (A1) Gottlieb and Levine Design, (B1) Chang Design. Neophallus “tubed” over a urinary catheter (A2) Gottlieb and Levine Design, (B2) Chang Design. AR, radial artery; G, neoglans; HR, neourethra; NP, neophallus.

Weird: semi rigid prosthetic implant for metoidioplasty

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Tube steaks:

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This is a totally new approach that happens in two steps. Actually the best results I have ever seen. It's incredible how different results are - compare to Dr. Rumer. Amazing what actual urological surgeons can do. These guys were not able to receive any grants/funding for their work, and they advocate for better controls and longer wait times and multiple steps for better results. Still horrifying but notably better than so many other fucked up results we've seen.
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Foreskin markings at the beginning of surgery. Correct incision: red arrow.
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Dissection (red arrow) between outer (blue) and inner (green) layers of foreskin and their respective neurovascular bundles.
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Separation of penis tissues. A: penile skin flap, B: glans penis with inner foreskin layer and neurovascular bundle, C: spatulated urethral flap.
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Close-up image of the glans penis with inner foreskin layer and neurovascular bundle.
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Incision of skin at penile base and transfer of the glans penis and inner foreskin layer to their new positions: creation of clitoris with its prepuce (the tissue that covers the clitoris).
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Intraoperative photography of constructed neovagina. A: scrotal skin transplant, B: penile skin flap, C: spatulated urethral flap.
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Insertion of vaginal construction into pelvic cavity between prostate and rectum.
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Insertion of vaginal construction into pelvic cavity between prostate and rectum.
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Frontal image of reconstructed vagina at the end of first-stage SRS. Urinary catheter visible at the top.
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Representative genital result no. 1. Patient 7 months after first-stage SRS. The large labia spread to demonstrate the small labia.
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Figure 13. Representative genital result no. 2. Patient 13 months after first-stage SRS and 6 months after second-stage SRS. Frontal view and view from above.
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Want to compare?

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Single stage result.

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Instructional image of a neovagina for gynecologists (who are supposed to do the exams of the cavity and prostate).

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Any chance I can get the medical journal for the inversion done by actual urologists? Kinda curious to read more considering it being done by actual doctors lmao.
 
Too much testosterone is really bad for a vagina. It athrophies, becomes extremly dry, the vagina walls get weaker & are thinning which leads to tearing and bleeding, intercourse is painful, it can't get wet anymore, the chance to get infections is way higher and so on.

Her damaged pussy should have been sewn shut instead of Dr. Chink Frankencock leaving it open like that.
 
She captioned one of the pics similar to the first one you posted "So happy I kept my clit exposed because now I can keep my favorite little mouth soooo busy!" – what's that even supposed to mean?

Do I even want to know?

How many holes does she have now? The pic bellow from this post is captioned "Kept my v, need to get railed stat!"


So she now has clit balls (more like axe wound if you ask me – yay, the differencest between FTMs and MTFs are narrowing down!), true and honest female genital mutilation (that is the gaping hole without clitoris close to the neoballs), and then asshole in the back that the sphincter is keeping shut. Or am I looking at it wrong? Please, tell me I am. Truly an honest faggot this woman is. Or is this one "straight"? It seems they just about always larp as a faggot.

Who'd fuck any of this? I can imagine somebody trying at least once to fuck a MTF that has cut the only interesting thing chasers are after (his dick, the money maker), but this?
Maybe this is a language barrier thing but I don’t think I would take advice from someone who doesn’t know the terminology for their surgery until Reddit tells them.
 

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Any chance I can get the medical journal for the inversion done by actual urologists? Kinda curious to read more considering it being done by actual doctors lmao.
I was mistaken, the one with the best results that I posted is a teaching hospital in German that does cosmetic surgery. But they are definitely cutting edge. I'm attaching as a PDF.

The papers I was thinking of by the urologists were in the Urological Journal of Medicine. One says you shouldn't reroute urethras for frm surgeries at all because of cases they dealt with. The other is a one step ftm surgery with urethral rerouting. Both horrifying but at least patients are able to piss. If you want to see those shoot me a message.
 

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The papers I was thinking of by the urologists were in the Urological Journal of Medicine. One says you shouldn't reroute urethras for frm surgeries at all because of cases they dealt with. The other is a one step ftm surgery with urethral rerouting. Both horrifying but at least patients are able to piss. If you want to see those shoot me a message.
Do some get stuck cathetering for life? It seems rewiring all that shit in these types of surgeries is gonna cause issues.
 
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