General GunTuber thread

[WinchesterWhiskey]

I think it's very surreal how little attention and scrutiny Grossman has actually gotten, considering how long he's been doing his bullshitting. Gamers should be at his throat for being an exceptional individual, and the liberal left (at the very least) should be at his throat for propagating the idea that cops have to be so needlessly triggerhappy.
You'd think a guy like him would be the fucking devil to BLM types.

Yeah, but explaining that to them gets you either called a democrat or that you're using an "ad hominem" defense. I'll get screencaps of what I mean and post them here.

In the meantime, have this.

The Col Dave Grossman Debate - How Mistaken Is He?

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Only complete try hard faggots insist on being called their retiree title. I've known several retired O5s and O6s and none of them include it on anything outside of legal paperwork.

 

[HelpingNoone]

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

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these people wouldnt know folk music if it hit them on the ass

 

[WinchesterWhiskey]

Screw it.

Here's a sample.





Edit-

For some background, someone else posted the link above and that was the head of the AZ CDL's response.

 

[UVB-76]

Homicide rates dropped by almost 50% from 1994 to 2007, while at the same time the videogame industry grew like bonkers.
Also, kids already play "high stress force on force training". It's called airsoft.

Spoiler

 

[WinchesterWhiskey]

All it's really going to take for that group to die is a massive political scandal or just their membership dying off. The former is more likely with how loud mouthed the membership is about shit that has nothing to do with guns.

 

[HelpingNoone]

these people wouldnt know folk music if it hit them on the ass

I'm seeing the term "folks" used a lot more in leftist communities in place of the meme'd "comrade".
Funnily enough another group used to do that leading to Volkssturm and Volkswagen...

Imagine your family having to see that monstrosity of a turkenelli going into evidence in your murder case.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

But it’s much later and you’re obviously unhappy with the situation. He offered to pay for it or ship it back because he works on his own schedule for getting stuff done; I don’t see how that’s unreasonable.

You're right, I'll resolve it offline & on my own dime. Just disappointed more couldn't have been made of it, the thing was pretty amusing.

 

[waffle]

I'm seeing the term "folks" used a lot more in leftist communities in place of the meme'd "comrade".
Funnily enough another group used to do that leading to Volkssturm and Volkswagen...

Imagine your family having to see that monstrosity of a turkenelli going into evidence in your murder case.

Those people and Hitler actually got the folks stuff from the same place. One of Hitler's intellectual granddad's also taught W.E.B. DeBouis...

 

[Only A Retard Sometimes]

I'm seeing the term "folks" used a lot more in leftist communities in place of the meme'd "comrade".
Funnily enough another group used to do that leading to Volkssturm and Volkswagen...

Imagine your family having to see that monstrosity of a turkenelli going into evidence in your murder case.

i remember that obama did this alot.

 

[HelpingNoone]

Here is Karl fighting some more WWSD strawmen

 

[Molly White's Breast Milk]

You know what Stoner would really do? Not work with a satanic cuck that hates America.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

Here is Karl fighting some more WWSD strawmen

So instead of first presenting the video entirely as a cool historical vignette & on its own merits, it has to be framed as a haters gotcha instead? I would've been able to finish watching if he hadn't broken it up to argue every point, even listening to his full commentary at the end; instead the whole thing sounds like an argument with Reddit.

 

[Corn Flakes]

So instead of first presenting the video entirely as a cool historical vignette & on its own merits, it has to be framed as a haters gotcha instead? I would've been able to finish watching if he hadn't broken it up to argue every point, even listening to his full commentary at the end; instead the whole thing sounds like an argument with Reddit.

That's because it is.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

That's because it is.

Rhetorical, but still. This one should've been fielded by Sinistral; because like Stoner, Russ is the one who did the blueprints & was responsible for the manufacturing, QA/QC, customer service, etc.

If I had been completely ignorant of Karl & the KP-15, and a google search brought up complaints on Reddit/arfcom/kiwifarms/etc; the next step would've been looking for statements directly from manufacturer/designer, not their shill on YT.... even (or especially) if they're an official shill, and it wouldn't matter if it was Karl, Ian, or anyone else.

And because Sinistral has already addressed the technical issues directly on multiple parts of the internet, this video is more like beating a dead horse than anything. The Stoner interview could've easily been presented on its own merits without needing to be broken down.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

Rhetorical, but still. This one should've been fielded by Sinistral; because like Stoner, Russ is the one who did the blueprints & the manufacturing.

If I were completely ignorant of Karl & the KP-15, and a google search brought up complaints on Reddit/arfcom/etc; the next step would've been looking for statements directly from designer, not a shill on YT.... even (or especially) if they're an official shill, doesn't matter if it was Karl, Ian, or anyone else.

The KP-15 is one component of the WWSD project; it is not THE WWSD project. The rifle specs and features were Karl and Ian’s and we were responsible for manufacturing/building them. Karl is more qualified to speak to the decisions for the over all rifle project than I am for this reason.

 

[WhoBusTank69]

Karl is more qualified to speak to the decisions for the over all rifle project than I am for this reason.

Qualified is probably not the word to use, rather he was obligated to lead the conversation having more or less initiated the project.
There's not much else that's complicated other than specifying which brands bring what to the table and I'd argue you're quite qualified to talk about the parts themselves, rather than their selection, having facilitated most of the manufacture at this point. While the annoyance of justifying this compilation of parts and features is understandable, he never finished the series discussing parts selection which has grated on quite a few people waiting for it.

 

[Pocket Dragoon]

The KP-15 is one component of the WWSD project; it is not THE WWSD project. The rifle specs and features were Karl and Ian’s and we were responsible for manufacturing/building them. Karl is more qualified to speak to the decisions for the over all rifle project than I am for this reason.

The specs & features are all fine & good, but issues I've seen have all been related to manufacturing processes, though they stem from those spec/feature choices, and you've effectively addressed those. I just wouldn't ask a project manager about specific technical problems if the engineers are willing & available.

 

[SinistralRifleman]

The specs & features are all fine & good, but issues I've seen have all been related to manufacturing processes, though they stem from those spec/feature choices, and you've effectively addressed those. I just wouldn't ask a project manager about specific technical problems if the engineers are willing & available.

The things Karl addresses in this video are related to the over all concept/features not nuanced details like why the pins aren’t captured in the lower. He’s addressing why these choices were made, not the detailed execution of the parts. He’s one of the two people who made these decisions, so he is the best person to address it.

I may do a common KP-15 questions/misconceptions video at some point to address things specifically related to the lower.