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[Avokado]

r/VirtualYoutubers - [NSFW] I don't want any more victims.Please spread it and call attention.

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From what I understand this vtuber couldn't afford to buy an avatar so she relied on a free one. Only it wasn't for free as the dude who made it was trying to coerce a relationship. Which is blackmail and stupid.
Not only that, this circle (which I'm guessing is some sort of vtuber group), decided that instead of supporting her decision to sever ties with this asshole that she should just "suck it up" and deal with it so that the other girls in this circle can get an avatar as well which is just awful in every way, shape, and form.

I read the her message and it seems to me that the guy is offering free 3d model for the vtubers which is very attractive for her group. And from what she can tell that the guys has been doing the sexual harassment to others as well. It's unclear from the way it's written that other girls in the group ask her to suck up with it for them or just that they aren't willing to pass up on the free model which put her in a difficult position. Obviously she might not want to be 100% upfront about her circle but it might be better not to infer too much from what is not said.
That said the modeler is 100% a POS and is manipulating her which is pretty clear and not in dispute.

In case if you guys don't know, he also modelled Hizuki Miu, Mitsurugi Lia and Hoshina Suzu from WACTOR, Hourei Tenten and Hanamori Healthy, Hinono Tama, Momoto Runo, and Necora Nyaru (Amalis!), Kyuotto, Ann, Irosaki Akane, Norah, Shironeko, Yururi Meguru, and former Nijisanji member mama Rucaco. He also rigged Kohaku Nene, where she's also a victim. By the time of the controversy, he's rigging Alice C. Alucard
In other words, he's one of the major 3D riggers. Something like this should not be tolerated by any standards, especially when he worked with major agencies like WACTOR.
EDIT: Added 2 more that I found
ANOTHER EDIT: His apology post

from a cursory look through using google translate for images on my phone. if someone with actual Japanese proficiency will look through it i would suggest prioritizing the accuracy of their description over mine
also i will put * on anything i couldn't really understand or think was translated weirdly.

The message itself was written with help from a friend of his since he lacks skill in Japanese.
He thought this was okay because of his lack of japanese skills*? Something about because how he doesnt know Japanese that well and he thought these Sneaky images* as google translate puts it, would be considered fanart!?
States that he couldnt see forward* because of profits* lacked the awareness of a modeler.
He thought the Underwear picture would be cute, so he thought they would be happy too*
Something about a Heart emoji* in DM to see if it would be safe to show more* or something, not really clear.

also there isnt anything about whether or not he got Heart emoji's in response.

Also says that he is childish for showing the offending images instead of progress images*
and the rest is just apologies to the Vtubers effected as well as a statement asking to please not harassing those involved*? (is he talking about the vtubers or people he is connected to?)

Closing of with a statement about being reborn* with this incident in mind

Spoiler: more

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

I wonder what the formula is for the size of a fandom/culture, number of true creeps, number of virtue signaling sjws, and exposed true creeps?

 

[Diya]

Oh wow, a vtuber herself come out to accuse her model maker who's also a major player in a circle of grooming and compensated sex-texting. This is fucking big, and will totally gaining round soon. The story is also super fuck up, almost a mirror of low-tier Idol agency where young, poor, and impressionable girl was lured by promise of support into sexual relationship or prostitution. Damn, I come to watch Vtuber to not care about this shit, but human will be human huh.

Just in case it's all a make up drama to stir support, I'll wait and see how the story progress. Nevermind, he just up and confirm it in his apology post. This is why Japanese doesn't make good lolcow, their "apology and transparent when they're caught" culture is too ingrained in their nip brain.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Oh wow, a vtuber herself come out to accuse her model maker who's also a major player in a circle of grooming and compensated sex-texting. This is fucking big, and will totally gaining round soon. The story is also super fuck up, almost a mirror of low-tier Idol agency where young, poor, and impressionable girl was lured by promise of support into sexual relationship or prostitution. Damn, I come to watch Vtuber to not care about this shit, but human will be human's huh.

Just in case it's all a make up drama to stir support, I'll wait and see how the story progress. Nevermind, he just up and confirm it in his apology post. This is why Japanese doesn't make good lolcow, their "apology and transparent when they're caught" culture is too ingrained in their nip brain.

I get ya buddy, but at least we can trade in some laughs for the safety of any current and future victims.

 

[Jep21]

ATLUS VIDEO GAME COMPANY

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

ATLUS VIDEO GAME COMPANY
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I would like to bet they have an automated service that will attack Kiara by accident.

 

[IdenticalPlateaus]

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2 hours gameplay? I guess if she is quick there is a chance she makes it through the tutorial

 

[Hotdogs Aplenty]

I would like to bet they have an automated service that will attack Kiara by accident.

The DMCAs are already in the queue.

 

[Rezza]

I wonder what the formula is for the size of a fandom/culture, number of true creeps, number of virtue signaling sjws, and exposed true creeps?

This is actually an interesting research question, but ultimately would be extremely difficult to research on because people won't admit that they're enabling creeps this entire time. But I do say there's a formula or something like that

ATLUS VIDEO GAME COMPANY
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What are the chances they will approve Calli's Persona 3 stream now?

 

[Big PiPi Energy]

What are the chances they will approve Calli's Persona 3 stream now?

Probably never. This is a sponsored stream to shill their new game, not someone playing their old shit for fun.

It's Atlus. No fun allowed.

 

[AbsoluteVirtue]

It's been a while and I don't want to find it, but I posted something similar a while back. I posited that she may be actually on the spectrum. Not in the joking way we say Pippa is exceptional, but for real.

My reasons for thinking so we're based on actual experience working with an autistic girl. She was a "diversity" hire at an old job of mine. Tons of similarities to the owl in how she acts but it was more how people treated her. We received an email from corporate with "handle with care" instructions. A list of things to do to help her cope and how to handle her with kid gloves. I had to call a meeting with everyone but her and read off the list to everyone else. The way people babied her and Mumei are extremely similar.

Again, it's a rrat. Be she screams autistic to me. Which would explain why her boyfriends all had to babysit her and why the other girls treat her so carefully.

She's been pretty well doxxed. She's a blonde airheaded. She's going to College. She plays up her cute stupid side on purpose. It's blatantly obvious because, her past persona never did this.

 

[Cubanodun]

ATLUS VIDEO GAME COMPANY
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Well is a good compromise because is a new game, but the fact that is sponsored pave the way for they being able to play their older games like Capcom did (they first shilled the Mio plushie on their arcades then gave them permits later)

So expect several streams of Calli sucking ass DSP levels on Persona 3

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Well is a good compromise because is a new game, but the fact that is sponsored pave the way for they being able to play their older games like Capcom did (they first shilled the Mio plushie on their arcades then gave them permits later)

So expect several streams of Calli sucking ass DSP levels on Persona 3

I feel like mentioning that Capcom's why we lost big %'s of Hololive archives. It was a joke/rrat on /jp/ that they did the collab specifically with Mio as an apology. She was ground zero for what would be called the Holocaust, which was caused by her Ghost Trick stream being mass reported.

But back to this, a normal company would totally evolve this into permission for their older titles, Atlus is not normal. Like that meme of some little girl screaming in the back seat.

 

[Steinercard]

It's been a while and I don't want to find it, but I posted something similar a while back. I posited that she may be actually on the spectrum. Not in the joking way we say Pippa is exceptional, but for real.

My reasons for thinking so we're based on actual experience working with an autistic girl. She was a "diversity" hire at an old job of mine. Tons of similarities to the owl in how she acts but it was more how people treated her. We received an email from corporate with "handle with care" instructions. A list of things to do to help her cope and how to handle her with kid gloves. I had to call a meeting with everyone but her and read off the list to everyone else. The way people babied her and Mumei are extremely similar.

Again, it's a rrat. Be she screams autistic to me. Which would explain why her boyfriends all had to babysit her and why the other girls treat her so carefully.

That makes sense but at the same time why even hire someone who's that autistic? It'd be way easier to just hire someone who's not going to need to be babied. Yagoo's House for Broken Girls only goes so far.

 

[Scuttle]

Well is a good compromise because is a new game, but the fact that is sponsored pave the way for they being able to play their older games like Capcom did (they first shilled the Mio plushie on their arcades then gave them permits later)

So expect several streams of Calli sucking ass DSP levels on Persona 3

Not gonna happen.

ATLUS allowed streamers and LP'ers to make Persona 5 content perfectly fine...until you reached a certain point and then they clamped down relatively hard. SMT V is probably the same way: shill the game until you reach a certain chapter or segment where you have to stop.

Persona 3 is, as of right now, stuck on the PS2. Not only that, but it's primed and ready for a Steam re-release or even remake based on their surveys. There is 0% chance they're going to let someone as massive as Calli play the PS2 version and give viewers a 'free experience' of the story they may be working on repackaging for profit as we speak.

Nijisanji have P4G permissions but they can't show 'the ending'. I'm not sure anyone in Holo or Niji care enough about mainline SMT to have asked for Nocturne, and everything else in recent memory was on the 3DS. Not only are ATLUS not a great company to negotiate with, they also don't exactly have a lot of stuff worth making streaming content out of. The result is that anyone interested in SMT/Persona will just play them in their own time without worrying about breaking contract.

 

[paule]

Atlus probably has a Persona 3 remake/port in the making and until it's released there will be no OK for streaming the old ones. Easy money

 

[Airihead]

I was wondering if this would ever happen.

Kiara mentions she wouldn't mind doing an official dub and speculates the others might too

I for one would love that when it finishes

Spoiler: Mumei rrat

It's not just her boyfriends. The way the other girls treat her (and the way she reacts to them) sometimes seems to go beyond kayfabe. Off the top of my head:
- Kiara "talking to someone" after Council's debut
- This reaction to Ina chatting in one of her early drawing streams which goes well beyond spaghetti spilling and rivals Gura's "1, 2, 5". Despite actively laying the bait with her last message, Ina doesn't seem to do anything with the resulting brain melt.
- Gura's not-collab with her during the collab ban
- Everyone piling into her first karaoke

Then again, how old is Mumei? Without Shion and Haachama's forceful personality or company seniority, an age gap would produce a similar effect.

My guess on her age is very early 20s

Fake American and Kettle collab is happening. They vibing and screaming already.

Chad Souchou didn't stream her perspective presumably to give all the views to pika

 

[Rhialtokourai]

That makes sense but at the same time why even hire someone who's that autistic? It'd be way easier to just hire someone who's not going to need to be babied. Yagoo's House for Broken Girls only goes so far.

From my perspective, rrats are rrats. She does pick up on and play into jokes the others make at her expense. It's just that if Mumei's part is completely kayfabe, her colleagues' actions don't feel that way at all.

 

[masterstocking]

Ina, you have to prepare your little Takos for shocks like that. They can't process the impossible.

 

[augment]

Nothing of value is lost by having Persona 5 faggotry, but it's a crying shame about P3 and P4 Gold. Atlus must be close cousins with nintendo.
What would I give for someone to pick up Etryan Oddyssey