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Holy fuck lmao, more kson + Mel collabs coming, i bet /vt/ is melting down but I'm too lazy to go look.

If Melody manages to get kson to start playing ecchi/h games with her this will have all been worth it.
 
Huh, i was expecting more from the K-on designer but that model is so... plain holy shit, and what with that discount Watame, Alba, Kaga and Hitoshiro are good, wonder how many shekels sony burned in the rigging
I don't know man i like their simple character design more than council one or the recent nijiEN design. Like seriously the red one and the blue they are plain/simple/basic but its eye catching to me.

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I'm kind of torn about it, myself. Here's a spergy pro/con list:

Pros:
  • The fact that Lily keeps it quiet means she's* not using it for some kind of weird social clout, like I see with a lot of "trans creators."
  • SJW horseshit isn't part of her content or brand.
  • Lily isn't loudly outspoken about it, and strikes me as the sort of person who just wants to exist. Might not be the most popular opinion here, but I didn't have a problem with the "transgender movement" or whatever, at first. I talk a bit about what changed my mind in this post, and it's not worth dragging this thread into a discussion about trannies.
  • Lily's content is funny and entertaining, and I don't really care if it comes from a man, a woman, or a genderless space alien.
Cons:
  • Having a bunch of trans friends means she's exposed to, and possibly agrees with, a lot of the lunacy that I can't stand about their movement.
  • It really feels like being lied to. I'm glad it's not front and center, but not knowing at all feels weird. It's funny that trannies get so assblasted about being called a "trap" when that's sort of what this is.
  • It makes the "little sister" roleplay they do feel really creepy. It was already kind of weird, this just tips it over the edge.
  • Someone "being stealth" like this feels like being forced to partake in something, rather than choosing to. I probably wouldn't have cared if this was on the label, so to speak.
Overall, it doesn't change much, but it paradoxically also changes everything. I don't know if I'll continue watching.

* I couldn't decide whether to use "he," "she," or "they" for this post and honestly it doesn't matter. People who care about pronouns need to get real problems. I'll just use she because it's what I've always called her, and cop some autistic ratings if I must.
You hit the nail on the head. My biggest problem is the lying. I watch a fair bit of "LGBT" vtubers, I got no problem with them but the lying is a huge turn off for reasons not even I can figure out why. Maybe its just me subconsciously forming parasocial relationships with a drawing, who knows.

Either way I'm gonna take a break from Lily for awhile and go back to watching her royal smugness

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If there's dirt on her too please don't tell me, I can't take much more
 
Anyone who's followed a competitive gaming scene that has Germans in it knows how fucking insufferably competitive they are. They also seem to be more likely to resort to cheating, and will get bitchy when they're caught, as if they deserved the victory by virtue of being who they are rather than any sort of actual merit.
POV: You were a Riolu fan

That being said, I really want to see chuubas play TrackMania (maybe even multiplayer as a collab). Don't tell me Luna because I can't stand her voice.
 
I don't know man i like their simple character design more than council one or the recent nijiEN design. Like seriously the red one and the blue they are plain/simple/basic but its eye catching to me.

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Council more or less i was expecting to be uber exaggerated after all that lore of "they are avatars of space, time,nature, yadda yadda" but eh who knows, lets see how they fare next week
 
Hoping this is the end of the PippaxKiara discussion but I wanna throw in my 2 cents.

Whether or not Holo is going to collab with outsiders is not the concern. The main issue is maintaiming a good relationship with all possible companies, Holo included. You never want to burn a bridge with potential collaboration partners.

Look at the fallout Veibae had after videos of her talking shit about Holo surfaced. She might as said them during a time when she thought there was 0% chance that she'd ever join a company, much less collab with a Holo talent. Now she will never have a chance to collab with any Holos for the forseeable future, and likely will have a hard time finding other people to collab with who still want to have an amicable relationship with Cover.

The Vtubing industry is unique in where frequent collaborations with competitors is the norm. This is unheard of everywhere else, hence you get ads where Pepsi shits on Coke or Burger King tells you they'll give you a free burger if you take a selfie at Mcdonalds.

Now, I will be fair to Pippa. The joke was out of line but she didn't deserve this much hate or blowback.

TL;DR: Vtuber industry values relationships with other Vtubers/companies. Making a shitty joke/reference about an outsider can potentially destroy said business relationships. So just don't make them.
Again, technically there are no ties from Roommates or their past content to Hololive which is why Hololive doesn't get involved in roommate drama unless it is things that come up during the official Hololive Vtuber accounts.


Somewhat I saw on CB chat. Guessing this is just some random person who popped in after seeing Melody's stream on the main page.
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These guys look fairly generic for the most part.
 
If you're a fan of a vtuber, suddenly sperging out because you found out they are trans is kind of a dumb look. This is why people who aren't into vtubers always go "lol they're probably just guys fooling you" and whatnot - they think that vtuber fans are desperate guys who will fall apart if you tell them their oshi isn't a girl. If they don't make LGBTQ politics or whatever a part of their content, why care?
 
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why is her arm tracking always so scuffed :story:

Arms are the smallest parts of the model and she is playing in VR so she controls both her character and the model at once, making it a bit messy lol!

I mean its already been said by plenty of other people, but I'll still reiterate it since you were replying to me. PC isn't getting a Holo collab. Not before this situation nor after. Especially with EN. The EN girls almost never collab outside Holo and when they do, its with heavier hitters. Its no secret that I love the PC girls, but it just isn't in the cards. They're still a small company. Hololive has nothing to gain by collabing with them, as unfortunate as that is. Maybe in the future if they ever hit it big, but by then no one would remember or care about some random vtuber mentioning she watched a video one time with some cosplayer in it. Its all irrelevant.
Not to remain on that topic, but I doubt Kiara or even anyone at Cover has any idea of what happened. Phase at the moment is simply too small to land collabs with HoloEN, you won't see someone with their numbers collabing with them. Pikamee, Nabi, Uto all have much higher numbers and they got the collabs as far as I know, but with Phase a single one of the Holostars (not shitting on them, just saying their numbers are smaller in general) dwarfs them!

Like most CB streams
With collabs you're putting two people that hardly interact on the job together on a single stream, it's one thing to have Amelia collab with Gura as they are friends and interact with each other all the time, it's another thing to have Amelia with someone they might watch but never worked with before!

Being friendly and interacting off-stream is one thing, doing it live is another thing entirely lol!
These guys look fairly generic for the most part.
First one is a default anime girl, second and third are budget Watame and Fauna, I like the blonde with the horns, budget Reine and a mix of Kizuna AI, Miko and Hitomi Chris. All in all I agree lol!

If you're a fan of a vtuber, suddenly sperging out because you found out they are trans is kind of a dumb look. This is why people who aren't into vtubers always go "lol they're probably just guys fooling you" and whatnot - they think that vtuber fans are desperate guys who will fall apart if you tell them their oshi isn't a girl. If they don't make LGBTQ politics or whatever a part of their content, why care?
Precisely, it's not like they are some insufferable militant troons, just a regular person with a different aspect. I particularly don't mind too!
 
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If you're a fan of a vtuber, suddenly sperging out because you found out they are trans is kind of a dumb look. This is why people who aren't into vtubers always go "lol they're probably just guys fooling you" and whatnot - they think that vtuber fans are desperate guys who will fall apart if you tell them their oshi isn't a girl. If they don't make LGBTQ politics or whatever a part of their content, why care?
It's not unreasonable to lose interest if you discover something about their roommate that's incongruous with the image they're trying to maintain in character. It's up to the viewer to decide if they want to keep tuning in or not.
 
These guys look fairly generic for the most part.
The most weird thing is that apparently the K-on one was a last addition because the banner only show 5, Rin was so rushed that she doesnt even have a twitter account

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Edit: I wonder if she know what having that Oshi mark entails

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Edit 2: rin is not even in the debut list THEN WHY THE FUCK SHE IS THERE?
 
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It's not unreasonable to lose interest if you discover something about their roommate that's incongruous with the image they're trying to maintain in character. It's up to the viewer to decide if they want to keep tuning in or not.
Fair, viewers can stop watching a streamer whenever, for whatever reason. I just normally don't see the need to make a big deal out of it as to make pro and con lists lol.

These guys look fairly generic for the most part.
Uno (blonde girl with the horns) is definitely the only design I particularly care for right now. I'll give them a watch when they debut, though.
 
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