General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

https://twitter.com/Lumituber/status/1462585879583670272 (https://archive.md/3PGxA) got deleted (was a praising reply to Nux tweeting out his video)

Damn he even got disowned by lumi.

 

[NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos]

vshojo isnt going to care that onlyfans fucked up.

The legal consequences of this issue means any of the information gathered here is likely not court admissable and potentially incriminating against Nux/OnlyFans instead.

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

Im not entirely sure if this is the case, but this detail here might also be why VShojo is mad at Nux. Afaik it's illegal to get information this way and could hurt the investigation (if it exists) because of such a fragrant breach of privacy that is likely contractually protected.

Wait, someone has a point, if Nux got this info from an insider at OnlyFans, than this shit blows up into something funnier than twats slapping a keemie.

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

EDIT: Lighter news: one chad just donated 1.000 dollars to Nene Amano and she broke down in tears

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That's not a chad that's god.

 

[Hmmpf!]

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世界中にファン5000万人。VTuber「ホロライブ」が急成長する理由

発売中のForbes JAPAN2022年1月号の特集「日本の起業家ランキング2022」でTOP20に選出されたカバーの谷郷元昭。同社が運営するVTuber事務所「ホロライブプロダクション」が世界中で急速にファンを増やし続ける理由とは。アニ

forbesjapan.com

Title:
[EN GTranslate] 50 million fans all over the world. Why VTuber "Hololive" is growing rapidly
[EN DeepL] With 50 million fans around the world, why VTuber "Hololive" is growing so fast

That anime girl (conplete with the attached cardboard lmao) becomes hillarious attached to the badass Yagoo.

I'm more interested with that seemingly upgraded Cover office though. New office tour?

 

[LullerDerbyRollin]

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I just wanna see blood, no matter the side; that's what the farms are for, afterall!

EDIT: Lighter news: one chad just donated 1.000 dollars to Nene Amano and she broke down in tears

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Nene really wants to prove to her parents that streaming like this is a valid and viable job, if she does they'll let her go full time she thinks. So stuff like this helps. She loves her chat like a gachikoi and wants to stream more for us.

 

[Two-bit]

Found this posted from last year on Nuxtaku's subreddit. Link.

 

[(iIivVvbBb-iIimMmvVv)]

They obviously provide no evidence for this, and it's up to the individual how you interpret or take away from that, but that might at least somewhat justify their feelings.

There is some vagueness coupled with some oddly specific terminology that essentially makes the entirety of the statement useless upon further inspection. It's like trying to run a case off only affidavits and no sworn witnesses. Good luck.

Now my question is, what kind of pressure do these two got to the point they decided to follow the others and threw Nux under the bus? Do they really believe in it? Did they regret it?

Probably not much. This isn't an indictment even. Most people will naturally side with authority or a 'trusted' leader over established friendships/morality. Evil is pretty banal unfortunately, and that fact leads directly into everything from FBI interrogation tactics to base-line corporate manipulation. . . if you were wondering.

Occam's Razor guys

On the money. This isn't incredible convoluted the more I look at it. It seems like a combination of a dim-witted-arrogant-but-well-meaning catalyst (Nux), supremely unprofessional acts (Nyanners), inadequate corporate responses in the past, over-reacton, and finally a close-ranks lock down.

Im not entirely sure if this is the case, but this detail here might also be why VShojo is mad at Nux. Afaik it's illegal to get information this way and could hurt the investigation (if it exists) because of such a fragrant breach of privacy that is likely contractually protected.

Doesn't matter to law-enforcement. It creates an internal issue that could fall back on the company. . . perhaps. Nothing said in that clip though actually indicated a release of information that wasn't public. The implication for possible breaches is there, but nothing specific. . . and the clipper knows that.

Thats all you are supposed to do, just a PSA regarding phishing scams. Not even banks will do more than that. This is something that Vshojo should've done instead of going in a retarded manhunt behind the scenes like they claim they did.

Why do you think "we finding out" even matters? Its a PSA for indie vtubers to not get scammed. Its not supposed to be a huge drama. No doxxing or swatting incident has ever been solved by making it public/drama. If anything, they are probably laughing their assess off now about all of this.

The only good thing about this being made "public" in this way and blowing up is that we get to dine on drama, but some people here are getting a bit too involved in taking sides instead of enjoying the shit show.

I'm sorry but your take is pretty much garbage. I don't know what third-world-bank you go to, but while you are correct that the obligations are not strong upon the entity, there are very much typical responses. One PSA is not enough; and it coming from a third party is the problem in professionalism. Not only that, but most entities also make contact information incredibly clear, and repeatedly do so on their sites and in their correspondence. As for swatting, or doxxing incidents never being solved by public drama? Yes, drama hasn't helped. But promulgation has. The original tweet wasn't, obviously, a very good spreader (probably because it was from a non-VShoujo voice).

Look man, I'm not trying to powerlevel too hard here, but I can at least say that there was nothing stopping VS from making the very clear public statements needed. Official LE is going to have a clear 'don't talk' stance. Not a one would want to see that silence lead to a death.

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I'm about to go full drunken autist into the Nux video regarding use of language, stand by for the breakdown. I'll add screenshots of timestamps, but I can't physically clip anything properly right now.

EDIT:
Anyone got a legitimate download for this vid instead of the 'archive.' It fails every two minutes and has been as insufferable as Nux's voice to analyze. Update is that it is looking pretty rock-solid that while he is an autistic edge-lord. . . I'm not seeing anything in this presentation to show dishonestly or more importantly maliciousness. . . which is more than I can say from the VS crowd at this point.

 

[Dang Woodchucks!]

Nothing else has really happened, unless anymore of Nux's friends or associates come out to condemn or defend him all we can do is speculate until he releases a response. It's not like this is a lolcow-focused thread anyway so there's not really much reason to drag something out when we've already talked about all there is at the moment.

Occam's Razor guys. You are expecting internet attention whores to be rational and calculating. Optimistic.

Along with these two statements, my overclocked, lacking-in-sleep and coffee braincell is gonna fire in the dark:

TL;DR The phishing is coming from inside the house.

What do I mean by that? Well, it's quite simple. The whole "we hired a cybersecurity firm"? It's fucking bullshit. To quote The Creator:

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cybersecurity Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Don't Click on Sus E-mails Like Nigga Don't Be Exceptional Haha

Call it a rrat if you have to, and I could be wrong, but who the fuck is gonna target randos on the internet posing as fucking Vshojo, when they could just as easily try and say they were some other agency?

I think someone actually involved in Vshojo just got bored and wanted to see how far they could go away with it.

 

[(iIivVvbBb-iIimMmvVv)]

Along with these two statements, my overclocked, lacking-in-sleep and coffee braincell is gonna fire in the dark:

TL;DR The phishing is coming from inside the house.

What do I mean by that? Well, it's quite simple. The whole "we hired a cybersecurity firm"? It's fucking bullshit. To quote The Creator:



Call it a rrat if you have to, and I could be wrong, but who the fuck is gonna target randos on the internet posing as fucking Vshojo, when they could just as easily try and say they were some other agency?

I think someone actually involved in Vshojo just got bored and wanted to see how far they could go away with it.

Sorry fam, but these firms absolutely exist. Go ask Janke. What they do is very exaggerated. Typically they provide the same kind of service as any 'leadership' or 'management consulting' firm provides. Technical jargon, education in specific assets available, and finally retainer of an advisory role if necessary.

Also, to their credit, VShoujo is a large enough group to be a perfect staging point while not having the displayed resources Holo or Niji have in clapping back. Plus, they don't have a very centralized hub for recruitment in comparison to HL and NJ.

 

[murdered meat bag]

Along with these two statements, my overclocked, lacking-in-sleep and coffee braincell is gonna fire in the dark:

TL;DR The phishing is coming from inside the house.

What do I mean by that? Well, it's quite simple. The whole "we hired a cybersecurity firm"? It's fucking bullshit. To quote The Creator:



Call it a rrat if you have to, and I could be wrong, but who the fuck is gonna target randos on the internet posing as fucking Vshojo, when they could just as easily try and say they were some other agency?

I think someone actually involved in Vshojo just got bored and wanted to see how far they could go away with it.

as this incident shows, vshojo is clearly retarded compared to other companies.

 

[NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos]

as this incident shows, vshojo is clearly retarded compared to other companies.

Happens when its just a glorified group identity and barely corporate in the first place.

 

[Cubanodun]

as this incident shows, vshojo is clearly retarded compared to other companies.

Its barely a company, someone in my discord joked that the Vshoujo tag is not any better than a guild tag in Call of duty the only difference is that sometimes they get merch... that they can do it by themselves if they feel so inclined

 

[Gravemind]

Im not entirely sure if this is the case, but this detail here might also be why VShojo is mad at Nux. Afaik it's illegal to get information this way and could hurt the investigation (if it exists) because of such a fragrant breach of privacy that is likely contractually protected.

I know little to nothing about Nux outside of what's been said about him repeatedly in this thread, I've never watched anything of his, I really couldn't give less of a shit about him as an individual, and setting aside the fact that he leaves the impression of being a faggot of the highest order, on a whim I watched the clip in that tweet and I have to ask:

Why the fuck does this guy audibly sound like he's trying really hard to mimic a character on Invader Zim or some shit?

 

[masterstocking]

Vote for less drama, more funny

 

[Motto Fine Rolas]

Spoiler: This is gonna be in my nightmares tonight

Sauce

 

[EliteDoragon]

I'm sorry but your take is pretty much garbage. I don't know what third-world-bank you go to, but while you are correct that the obligations are not strong upon the entity, there are very much typical responses. One PSA is not enough; and it coming from a third party is the problem in professionalism. Not only that, but most entities also make contact information incredibly clear, and repeatedly do so on their sites and in their correspondence. As for swatting, or doxxing incidents never being solved by public drama? Yes, drama hasn't helped. But promulgation has. The original tweet wasn't, obviously, a very good spreader (probably because it was from a non-VShoujo voice).

Look man, I'm not trying to powerlevel too hard here, but I can at least say that there was nothing stopping VS from making the very clear public statements needed. Official LE is going to have a clear 'don't talk' stance. Not a one would want to see that silence lead to a death.

You are not disagreeing with me at all:

- Not even banks will do more than PSA regarding phishing scams. At most they will make it an email campaign.... of more PSA. Banks will not go on a manhunt like GunRun claims he did. Thats stupid as fuck.
- Vshojo should've been the ones doing the PSA and be an actual real org instead of a group of online friends.

 

[NuPerezzorcjunmunospolkos]

I know little to nothing about Nux outside of what's been said about him repeatedly in this thread, I've never watched anything of his, I really couldn't give less of a shit about him as an individual, and setting aside the fact that he leaves the impression of being a faggot of the highest order, on a whim I watched the clip in that tweet and I have to ask:

Why the fuck does this guy audibly sound like he's trying really hard to mimic a character on Invader Zim or some shit?

Tragically that's his real voice. Speaking of Nux specifically, the man has basically ceased to exist. No activity anywhere. Sure he could be just biding his time and getting receipts, but I've never seen him so deafeningly silent.

 

[masterstocking]

Marriage counseling not going so well, I see

 

[What the shit]

Tragically that's his real voice. Speaking of Nux specifically, the man has basically ceased to exist. No activity anywhere. Sure he could be just biding his time and getting receipts, but I've never seen him so deafeningly silent.

That's what faggots usually do, and besides his downfall was destined to happen anyways because of how much he acts like a faggot in his videos and elsewhere.
Good riddance.