Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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Man, Chunky_pickle's uh, pickle, with that hole in it had me cringing but also laughing.. she could probably STP if she handled that lil rod like a tiny flute? Lmao

ETA: sorry but lol
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This here thread is for discussing one thing you can't discuss according to rules of your subs - results.
They are used to kissing each others asses in their echo chambers & making insane rules about what's allowed to discuss & what's verboten. You can't spell tyranny without tranny.

I bet their butchers are laughing about them behind their backs because of how incredibly dense & delusional they are. I'm sure some of the butchers read srs Reddit threads regulary and are happy that these troon numbskulls censor each other. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if a few butchers have accounts & pretend to be troons just to derail conversations & censor critical thoughts. But that's the Reddit troons problem not ours.

We are free to talk about srs horrors without using censored troon speak and that makes them so mad.
 
Out of curiosity: did any family members encourage/discourage you in these actions? Who had the most influence on you?
I mentioned it because it was immediately relevant to the post. I don't do that "I'm a detransitioner, AMA!" bullshit. Ex-troon attention seeking is nearly as insufferable as the troon kind and nobody else here gives a shit
 
Another glance into their psyche and how their feel feels and narcissism are prioritised when it comes to a less consequential medical treatment

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If they're really persuaded that the question of their sex is irrelevant to them getting the vaccine has it ever occurred to them to simply lie and tell the pharmacist administering the shot they're whatever sex they fantasize about being?

You know? Lubricate a social interaction for the sake of expedience? Like literally everyone else who isn't a rainbow alphabet degenerate does when they encounter trivial snags in fleeting social situations?
 
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There still is an r/neovaginadisasters, it's called r/manmadepussy.
They can harp about the politics of this site all they want, but the photos don't fucking lie.
If troons chose to believe the multilation photos are photoshop, then that only will hurt them and their troon buddies.

Genital butchers on the other hand benefit from their mass delusion and Kiwis have more stuff to discuss.
 
I searched the thread for Lupron mentions but couldn't find the "Lupton Victim's Hub" site, so I'm posting now.

The call to action was created on 12-12-19.

All about Lupron – what you don’t know can harm you​

This page identifies instances in which lupron and/or its manufacturer is discussed in newspaper stories, magazine articles, TV news or shows, or in articles, blogs, stories and posts on the internet. The majority of these stories discuss the risks of Lupron. Instances of the censoring of Lupron information will also be included here.

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12-12-19 ... CALL TO ACTION for Lupron Victims:
Today, more than at any other time in the past, a variety of sources are exerting noteworthy pressure upon a number of governmental agencies concerning the risks of Lupron, which should have the effect of putting Lupron into a focus it has managed to evade up till now. Therefore, it has become vitally important for Lupron victims to report their adverse events to the FDA so that a more comprehensive picture of Lupron's damage can become evident. (It would also be very helpful for Lupron / GnRHa victims to participate in the "Post-Drug Syndrome Survey - further discussed below.)

Historically only 1% to 10% of adverse events are ever reported to the FDA (see page 6 here). Thus, it can be assumed the number of Lupron adverse events reported to FDA have been woefully inadequate, and are *not* a true representation of the actual number of affected individuals nor of the extent of adverse effects. But you can change this situation by filing a MedWatch Report. It is not necessary to have a physician or nurse file a report -- anyone can report their own adverse effects directly to the FDA. And if you have filed a report in the past but since then have developed new symptoms and/or diseases, you can file another MedWatch Report to provide those additional developments.
In light of the pressures being brought to bear to expose Lupron's risks, now is the time to demonstrate by more authentic numbers the real-life horrific effects of Lupron. Here is an elaboration of some of these 'pressures' (and see links in Left column for further information on these 2019 stories):

---- Dr. David Redwine is 'cobbling' some 'things' together (see "Watch for Developments", below). And in Dr. Redwine's Nov. 25, 2019 Facebook post "WHAT CAN PATIENTS DO TO HELP WITH THE LUPRON ISSUE?", he initiated this renewed call for Lupron victims to file a MedWatch report. Dr. Redwine's Nov. 25th post also states the following:
"Also [in addition to filing a MedWatch report], it would be appropriate to inform your elected federal Congresspersons and Senators of your concerns and that early (1980's) evidence of damage to ovarian function was hidden from physicians. Feel free to send the link to my Facebook review [It goes into scientific details about damage to ovarian function that was kept secret -- https://www.facebook.com/david.redwine.90/posts/2315240045268343]. Current reports of adverse events will merge with an unseen, oncoming rising tide and help float the boat. Contributions from patients experiencing long-term problems are very important."

---- Lupron Victims Hub sent an inquiry to FDA in September, requesting the FDA address the issue of FDA's 1990 approval of Lupron Depot 3.75 mg being based upon its review of clinical trial data which contained fraudulent data and altered outcomes.
---- The Kelsey Coalition (a group of parents concerned with the risks of Lupron/GnRHas, testosterone, estrogen, and sex-reassignment surgery in the transgender population) has petitioned the Surgeon General to take action; has called for an investigation into the "unethical" NIH GnRHa study in the transgender population; and has called for a moratorium of the study with the Office for Human Research Protections. They have also launched their 'First, Do No Harm Campaign' to educate medical professionals on the risks of 'treatment'.

---- Texas Rep. Chip Roy has requested the Attorney General and the Directors of the NIH and the Office of National Drug Control Policy "conduct a federal study on individuals who undergo ... hormone treatment before the age of 18."

---- The governor of Texas has called for an investigation into the Younger case.

---- Continued media coverage (internet stories & TV coverage) of Lupron's negative effects.

---- Plaintiff Terry Paulsen survived several motions to dismiss her case, and so she continues forward with her protracted litigation v. Abbott and AbbVie. Terry's case and Lupron's negative effects have been featured on Atlanta, Georgia's WSB-TV News, which also started a Facebook page. Within 24 hours of the news story, the station had heard from hundreds of women throughout the country reporting negative effects from Lupron. (See below for links.)

---- Numerous Facebook 'Lupron Victim Groups' flourish, all detailing horrific stories and all calling for action and acknowledgment of Lupron's adverse effects.

---- A multi-drug "Post-Drug Syndrome Survey" was launched this year by PropeciaHelp.com, and Lupron/GnRHas are among the drugs being surveyed. Data is still being collected, therefore this study's final results remain pending. Regrettably, there have been very few Lupron participants in this survey, and so no data can be as yet analyzed. I would urge participation in this survey so that data can be collected. For further background and information on this survey, see here and here. A considerable number of people who've experienced health problems following the use of antidepressants, finasteride, and isotretinoin have participated in this survey, and I would encourage lupron victims to view the data generated by their participation (see here). It could be very helpful if Lupron victims were also able to demonstrate quantifiable data such as this.

And concerning MedWatch reports, consider the following:

Think about the numbers of Lupron victims that have been identified since the 1980s, within lawsuits, within the many now-defunct internet message boards and groups, and in the multitudes of print and televised coverage - and then add to this volume today's magnitude where Lupron victims post their stories in the full spectrum of social media platforms, and in the many internet stories, and in medication and drug review websites, and in various petitions, and in legal and pharmaceutical forum postings, etc.

If every internet poster who has ever written a message about their adverse Lupron experience were to also file a MedWatch report, the FDA would be overwhelmed by a staggering number of reports. Any subsequent attempt to ignore, deny or diminish Lupron's negative effects would become difficult in light of such a flood of adverse event reports. And if this should be coupled with participation by Lupron victims in the multi-drug "Post-Drug Syndrome Survey", our 'case' for the need for acknowledgment and medicolegal advocacy would become self evdent.

Please try to help make this happen. As Dr. Redwine said "Contributions from patients experiencing long-term problems are very important."

Thank you.

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For example, Dr. Redwine's Nov. 17,2019 post:

"FRAUD IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF LUPRON? ... (discussing Lupron Study M84-042):

"Estradiol levels were checked in 8 patients at one year after stopping Lupron. Ignoring for a moment that 8 patients is a very small number, the estradiol levels at ONE YEAR after stopping Lupron were lower than baseline in 88% of patients ... One patient had an estradiol level of 28 which is essentially menopausal. ...

These 8 patients [] constitute the only evidence that estrogen levels were checked by the manufacturer long after Lupron was discontinued that I found in my review of thousands of pages of in-house studies. 8 patients hidden deep in the data but not discussed in the medical journal publication coming out of that in-house study. 8 patients with objective laboratory evidence suggesting long-term ovarian dysfunction in a substantial fraction of patients exposed to the drug. 8 patients whose estradiol decline should have been a sign to get more information on what happens to ovarian function long after Lupron. I suspect that there is more evidence about estradiol that was not produced in discovery during Klein v Abbott. ...

For 30 years the manufacturer of Lupron has hidden the facts that Lupron therapy is followed by ovarian dysfunction or ovarian failure in a substantial fraction of those receiving it and that it has no evidence in thousands of pages of in-house studies that ovarian function recovers in that fraction. Physicians are unaware of this fact and so cannot obtain informed consent from any patient for this reason."

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I didn't think you were seeking attention and I didn't imply that you were.
If you don't want to talk about it, that's fine.
My reply to you wasn't an accusation about your implications, it was a general statement about the behavior of insane de/troons who come into the thread and act that way, and how I don't want to shit things up similarly. The statement was general, as in, for everyone, because we are in a thread. Along those lines, threads aren't for you and me to have a conversation, especially about our own feelings and experiences. That's what writing on someone's profile is for.
Actually, I not only give a shit, I find it utterly fascinating.
all right fine, but no more in the thread after this:
boilerplate trauma response. straight girl who got raped as a kid and had a bad family, etc. "community" offers instant support, etc. (None of the weird "I watched lots of coom-brain anime and now I think I'm a gay sex boy" I've seen now- THAT stuff is SO WEIRD. I never thought I'd actually see "autoandrophilia." Madness)
 
I get where you're coming from, of course people are going to have hate boners and say crazy shit on KF. I get that you want to take a fair and balanced assessment of things.
But dude. Dude. Even with "good" cosmetic results (lolololol), "Flaying your dick and stuffing it in the hole, with high risk of fistulas that ooze poop, and probable need of revision surgery" is simply the best-case reality. That's it. There it is.
Plastic surgeons and their patients can be freaky weirdos for sure, but they don't behave like this. Their procedures can have complications and there's always risk but it's nothing like this.
If you want to take a fair look, sugarcoating it in order to balance out the kiwifarms meanies isn't the way to do it. Just...look at it. Look at the thread, don't even read it, just look at pictures of this stuff. And you can't say "well those are the bad ones!" because a lot of this is troons showing off what they think are GOOD RESULTS.
It's fistulas all the way down, man. If you can't see that then idk what to tell you
Great response.

Something I've noticed in many of the TT Exulansic videos is that troons dissemble i.e. lie when asked about their results.
A typical question will be something like, "Is your neo-phallus functional?", to which the transman will reply, "Well, everyone has different results and different amounts of sensation and everyone is looking different things and I'm going in for my fifth revision and I have no regrets" rather than simply admit they have a non-functional flesh log.
In one video, TT makes the comparison to the Japanese cultural prohibition on directly saying "No".
 
Great response.

Something I've noticed in many of the TT Exulansic videos is that troons dissemble i.e. lie when asked about their results.
A typical question will be something like, "Is your neo-phallus functional?", to which the transman will reply, "Well, everyone has different results and different amounts of sensation and everyone is looking different things and I'm going in for my fifth revision and I have no regrets" rather than simply admit they have a non-functional flesh log.
In one video, TT makes the comparison to the Japanese cultural prohibition on directly saying "No".
Kinda OT but Exulansic also sees the rise of troons (MTF and the shit they do mostly like flashing in SPAs and demanding access to female spaces, for FTMs she mainly talks about how it's all about sterilizing mentally ill women) as "The Patriarchy™" reasserting itself after "Feminism™" won the war against it. While it is schadenfreude to listen to her Jazz, Vaginoplasty and Phalloplasty videos she's basically a basic bitch Atheist™ Feminist™ wishing for the return of the good old days when all she and hers did was battle the retarded fundies and flat earthers in ritual trial of debate. A trial long since forbidden by her peers and considered savage and alt-right enabling.

On topic, it's the single most hilarious thing about those bunch of morons to me, they can't even have straight conversations about where their journey took them, reinforcing what Exulansic also says, that this is essentially all about the journey and the friends made along the way, after it is complete these people have two choices, regret and 41% or become the priest class of the movement, preaching to the choir the miracle of SRS.
 
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