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"Nijisanji just doesn't have good talents thats why Hololive wins."
They both have talents. They just appeal to different people. If you want a competitive FPS gamer you have Selen, if you want a great artist, you have Ina, if you’re into hip-hop and some good fan interaction with chat, you have calli. Each have their own quirks and talents that interest different people.

get a mirror and say that again in front of the mirror,your welcome.oh dont forget to wear clown mask first.
No because when I see a bunch of negrates on the post and I can’t quote it, 9/10 it’s probably fucking stupid.
 
This shit started from "Nijisanji just doesn't have good talents thats why Hololive wins."

Hololive itself has a bunch of factors that involve high popularity over that, to the point it even benefits the talents that haven't had much to even show.

Prior to those factors, Tokino Sora who started it, and even Sakura Miko who belonged to Cover at the time, weren't breaking bank.

I don't give a damn about any of the holoEN talents besides IRyS and would rather watch Vox or Rosemi. How could this be? Doesn't one group have explosive popularity proving their worth while the other are struggling from lack of appeal?

The day popularity is determined by how much someone is worth watching is the day SSSniperwolf gets the fuck off YouTube's front page.

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They both have talents. They just appeal to different people. If you want a competitive FPS gamer you have Selen, if you want a great artist, you have Ina, if you’re into hip-hop and some good fan interaction with chat, you have calli. Each have their own quirks and talents that interest different people.
Tell that to the person who uses Kuzuha as proof the rest of Nijisanji ain't shit.
You are missing the large amount of money pored into marketing that niji can do.


So they had worst talents than hololive got it . Cause if they had just as good talents one person in that pool of over a hundred should have been that bridge fubuki and coco were.

The thing is they are being compared not to 1 talent but to like 60. And it's clearly possible cause kuzuha did it. They aren't taking silver they are getting 40th place in the qualifiers .
 
I don't give a damn about any of the holoEN talents besides IRyS and would rather watch Vox or Rosemi. How could this be? Doesn't one group have explosive popularity proving their worth while the other are struggling from lack of appeal?

The day popularity is determined by how much someone is worth watching is the day SSSniperwolf gets the fuck off YouTube's front page.
I think your tastes just deviate from the majority and your being a bit bitchy that your favorite isn't the most popular. Why is your taste the prime determinator of what "is worth watching".
 
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Tell that to the person who uses Kuzuha as proof the rest of Nijisanji ain't shit.
No thank you.
ah its the classic "dont read and dont feed the troll guys"<<after doing EXACTLY like what they said before,yep noted classic retarded faggot
The thing is I like feeding trolls because it’s funny.
 
I think your tastes just deviate from the majority and your being a bit bitchy that your favorite isn't the most popular. Why is your taste the prime determinator of what "is worth watching".
Why is your argument the prime determinator of what "is worth watching"? You yourself can make a case for why Sora wasn't a big hit from the start, even if you say she isn't even that good. But apparently Nijisanji's relative lack of success overall is unrelated to such potential factors, no, that's just them not bring good enough.
 
Why is your argument the prime determinator of what "is worth watching"? You yourself can make a case for why Sora wasn't a big hit from the start, even if you say she isn't even that good. But apparently Nijisanji's relative lack of success overall is unrelated to such potential factors, no, that's just them not bring good enough.
Don’t feed the trolls man. You should know better.
 
This shit started from "Nijisanji just doesn't have good talents thats why Hololive wins."

Hololive itself has a bunch of factors that involve high popularity over that, to the point it even benefits the talents that haven't had much to even show.

Prior to those factors, Tokino Sora who started it, and even Sakura Miko who belonged to Cover at the time, weren't breaking bank.

I don't give a damn about any of the holoEN talents besides IRyS and would rather watch Vox or Rosemi. How could this be? Doesn't one group have explosive popularity proving their worth while the other are struggling from lack of appeal?

The day popularity is determined by how much someone is worth watching is the day SSSniperwolf gets the fuck off YouTube's front page.
Pretty sure no one here is saying that Niji has worse talents, nor are they saying that they don't deserve their sucess (unless they are blatant trolls or just hate Niji flat out for some reason)

I personally have just been calling out the absolute hypocrisy of NijiEN fans here of the talents recent "successes" when it's just been a rehash of things other people have already done or are already common sense

Male Wave a success? Wow, it's not like people were clamoring for Male talents since the start in a market dominated by Females.
Niji sure showed the world that Male talents have a place in Vtubing by *reads notes* totally not doing something that made them successful in Japan.

Smol Models and giving them away for free? Only Selen and her LA CREATIVIDAD could have thought of that. No one else could and I will cut you if you even imply other Vtubers have commissioned 3D models and given them to VR Chat for use free of charge
 
Why is your argument the prime determinator of what "is worth watching"? You yourself can make a case for why Sora wasn't a big hit from the start, even if you say she isn't even that good. But apparently Nijisanji's relative lack of success overall is unrelated to such potential factors, no, that's just them not bring good enough.
I never claimed I got decide what was worth watching and what wasn't. I said you clearly have different tastes from what the numbers tell us are the most popular, and you clearly are having a bad reaction to the fact that not everyone likes what you like and god forbid people like things you don't.
Don’t feed the trolls man. You should know better.
ALso how am i the troll here?
 
Pretty sure no one here is saying that Niji has worse talents, nor are they saying that they don't deserve their sucess (unless they are blatant trolls or just hate Niji flat out for some reason)

I personally have just been calling out the absolute hypocrisy of NijiEN fans here of the talents recent "successes" when it's just been a rehash of things other people have already done or are already common sense

Male Wave a success? Wow, it's not like people were clamoring for Male talents since the start in a market dominated by Females.
Niji sure showed the world that Male talents have a place in Vtubing by *reads notes* totally not doing something that made them successful in Japan.

Smol Models and giving them away for free? Only Selen and her LA CREATIVIDAD could have thought of that. No one else could and I will cut you if you even imply other Vtubers have commissioned 3D models and given them to VR Chat for use free of charge
To be frank I didn't have anything to say about whatever you brought up, frankly I dunno whats with the Selen glory either. Or the Ame glory which precedes it for that matter, Ame herself wouldn't likely have had to take much into her own hands were it not for the lack of support from the company for things like HoloEN using their actual 3D.
 
Pretty sure no one here is saying that Niji has worse talents, nor are they saying that they don't deserve their sucess (unless they are blatant trolls or just hate Niji flat out for some reason)

I personally have just been calling out the absolute hypocrisy of NijiEN fans here of the talents recent "successes" when it's just been a rehash of things other people have already done or are already common sense

Male Wave a success? Wow, it's not like people were clamoring for Male talents since the start in a market dominated by Females.
Niji sure showed the world that Male talents have a place in Vtubing by *reads notes* totally not doing something that made them successful in Japan.

Smol Models and giving them away for free? Only Selen and her LA CREATIVIDAD could have thought of that. No one else could and I will cut you if you even imply other Vtubers have commissioned 3D models and given them to VR Chat for use free of charge
LMAO well ppl are too scared getting those sticker from the circlejerk nijifag that are lurking here thats why they have no balls to called them out,even though those nijifag hypocrisy is beyond joke at this point,well what do u expect from ppl who said "envtuber is shit,jp better,why u guys watching holo EN??" then eating their own words and saying EN vtubers are amazing because well nijiEN is a thing now lol.

exactly,"NIJI EN MALE IS A SUCCESS,LOOK AT THEM HAVE 100K SUBS" yeah,they are "nijisanji" well known for having a popular male vtuber lol ofc their "already EXIST" fanbase come to the nijiEN male.u dont go to niji and find some "real newfag viewer" like in holo who said literally something like "what is this anime girl stuff??,but they are funny lol".<<this is the real new viewer not some already existed fans that come from JP.
 
LMAO well ppl are too scared getting those sticker from the circlejerk nijifag that are lurking here thats why they have no balls to called them out,even though those nijifag hypocrisy is beyond joke at this point,well what do u expect from ppl who said "envtuber is shit,jp better,why u guys watching holo EN??" then eating their own words and saying EN vtubers are amazing because well nijiEN is a thing now lol.

exactly,"NIJI EN MALE IS A SUCCESS,LOOK AT THEM HAVE 100K SUBS" yeah,they are "nijisanji" well known for having a popular male vtuber lol
What are you on about?
 
Kiara said during her stream today that the Myth 3D models were ready before Kiara's birthday last year
Pretty sure the baseline for 3e was 100k subs on youtube and almost every girl already debuts with that much. Wouldnt surprise me if ID2 and EN2 also have theirs ready. Callie not wanting to use her 3d because she said she wouldn't until all the girls were together to do it which has been said multiple times. The whole "EN 3D when?" will happen once travel restrictions end after the Omicron spike in cases starts going down (I would assume April or May).

Fubuki's primary contribution to Hololive being a big success in the English speaking word is some cover of Scatman or whatever, and Miko saying a slur habing no idea what it means is approximately similar in impact.

Coco has a lot of experience in the Western world to be that actual bridge, which then spawned a ton of clippers that added to the momentum of it.
This shit started from "Nijisanji just doesn't have good talents thats why Hololive wins."

Hololive itself has a bunch of factors that involve high popularity over that, to the point it even benefits the talents that haven't had much to even show.

Prior to those factors, Tokino Sora who started it, and even Sakura Miko who belonged to Cover at the time, weren't breaking bank.
I think Coco mostly influenced things like Reddit which brought a huge normie crowd which then lead to clippers and translators taking notice. Personally, it was Miko the one that popped up the most on my feed and seemed to be front and center for a few months with her GTA clips. Eventually, Fubuki's shorts started to pop up after.

As for Niji it feels like it didn't have that. Also, it didnt help that they had so many talents and none of them seemed to speak English. Clips were very few and far in between. Shit, there are smaller companies that even made more noise than NIjiEN 1&2 debut. Im assuming it was more of poor marketing and luck (or lack thereof).



Koe making an appearance in Miko and Korone stream making both of them lose their shit when he showed his cosplay was a nice change of pace from Miko being the one making Koe laugh all the time.
 
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