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Dane Axe said:
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Suisei on her Stream Schedule in 2022 (Hoshimachi Suisei / Hololive) [Eng Subs]

Hoshimachi Suisei talks about what will happen with her stream schedule in 2022...● Source:【雑談】今年最後の雑談 / Chit chat【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】https://www.youtube.com/wat...
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So Suisei is basically going to pull an Ayame this year.

How many of you wanna take bets the unspoken reason is her boytoys nearing the end of her jailbait wait to go public?
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The "recording schedule" refers to 2 songs and a concert in the last month (AZKi also did 2 songs but no concert). Suisei's still streaming 3 times per week approximately, in particular she did ten hours in the last 7 days (slightly less than Rushia, more than Calli or Gura). The issue is that more than half of these streams are collabs (which is why she's apologizing for a lack of solo streams).

If the comet says she's busy you'd best believe it. She turned her mindset into a grindset long ago, she's trying to be a singer and a streamer at once. Her schedule is equal to 2 mere mortals combined.

Also, she is almost certainly of legal age. Her "life advice" clip puts her as a high school senior as of 2 years ago. Even that I'm doubtful of, because her roommate was an artist since at least 2012, the "high school" is probably college.
Nolan Crush said:
I have not been focusing on whatever you fags have been fighting over but I agree with Witthel.
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Use the :agree:. The rating system was specifically meant to prevent posts like this.
 
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Kazuma said:
According to this post, Suisei is 24
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I don't consider the list credible because there's no sources on it. In particular IRyS has been operating since at least 2011 and claims her recording was from "quite a long while ago". If the list is accurate she was 16 at the time, which doesn't make sense.
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On the other hand, the rratposter expects us to believe an 8 year old drew this, if Suisei's supposed to be underage now. Yeah, right.
 
RiverBear said:
Pretty sure no one here is saying that Niji has worse talents, nor are they saying that they don't deserve their sucess (unless they are blatant trolls or just hate Niji flat out for some reason)

I personally have just been calling out the absolute hypocrisy of NijiEN fans here of the talents recent "successes" when it's just been a rehash of things other people have already done or are already common sense

Male Wave a success? Wow, it's not like people were clamoring for Male talents since the start in a market dominated by Females.
Niji sure showed the world that Male talents have a place in Vtubing by *reads notes* totally not doing something that made them successful in Japan.

Smol Models and giving them away for free? Only Selen and her LA CREATIVIDAD could have thought of that. No one else could and I will cut you if you even imply other Vtubers have commissioned 3D models and given them to VR Chat for use free of charge
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I attributed these behaviours to insecurity from some of the more vocals Nijifag. Remember, before Holo started the Golden Age of VTuber by landing on the shores of the Western Internet, Niji was the bigger one than Holo. Hell, even I knew of Niji first before Holo, most of my friends are also the same. But then came the Fox Scatman, the Elite Nigga, the Shark "a", and Holo stole the thunder of the internet and became the largest/most well known corpo/group by triggering the floodgate of VTubers in the west. All the attention, casual fans, and support went from Niji to Holo in an almost blink of an eye, and some people can't stand it especially when you realize Ichikara/Anycolor kept shooting themselves in the foot by doing their usual stuffs

This behaviour is not that uncommon though, you can often see it in sports, pop culture, musics, etc. Its the tribalism all over again, "us against them". A lot of the Holofans are autistic, that is true, but so far none of them are so insecure as some of the Nijifags who always try to prop up everything the company and livers do
Azchan said:
As for Niji it feels like it didn't have that. Also, it didnt help that they had so many talents and none of them seemed to speak English. Clips were very few and far in between. Shit, there are smaller companies that even made more noise than NIjiEN 1&2 debut. Im assuming it was more of poor marketing and luck (or lack thereof).


Koe making an appearance in Miko and Korone stream making both of them lose their shit when he showed his cosplay was a nice change of pace from Miko being the one making Koe laugh all the time.
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A few weeks ago I decided to look up the numbers of views and clips that Nijisanji has, and to my surprise, it really is low compared to Holo. Whereas Holo clips has some clips that numbered million in views, lots of Nijisanji's clips barely touched even a quarter of that, if not below the 100k. Those with high numbers are usually official contents, and you can only find fanmade ones with high view counts when you searched using Japanese instead of English

Compares that to Holo with both official contents, clips, and fanworks such as animations regularly reached millions. This, I think, I can attributes to Hololive by embracing EOPs sooner than the rest of the Japanese corpo/groups, managed to rig their algorithms to their advantage. How? By having clips/contents that more people watched Globally

I remember the Coffezilla's video with Mr Beast, where he said that the algorithm that matters is "your videos are actually good, and people watched it". Now what if the demographic spread of audiences also matter?
Also, I wonder if Koe and other male content creators now appearing on Hololive streams means the management are warming up to the idea of the girls having collabs with Penishaver?
 
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Blatant hypocrite said:
I don't consider the list credible because there's no sources on it. In particular IRyS has been operating since at least 2011 and claims her recording was from "quite a long while ago". If the list is accurate she was 16 at the time, which doesn't make sense.
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On the other hand, the rratposter expects us to believe an 8 year old drew this, if Suisei's supposed to be underage now. Yeah, right.
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Again, rratposters should be scourged with a cat o' nine tails.
 
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Blatant hypocrite said:
Also, she is almost certainly of legal age. Her "life advice" clip puts her as a high school senior as of 2 years ago. Even that I'm doubtful of, because her roommate was an artist since at least 2012, the "high school" is probably college.
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It's who she's down for that's the jailbait, not Suisei herself. Besides even from debut she claimed to be 18 anyway, which already isn't underage.

I'm not sure if Suisei ever went to college/uni. She said she wasn't exactly well behaved in school and questions if university really does look like the background of a game she was playing.
 
5t3n0g0ph3r said:
Again, rratposters should be scourged with a cat o' nine tails.
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rratfags are dumb as fuck. The standard of evidence is absurdly low: We literally take people's word at face value, which no other thread on this site would accept. Even though the bar is so low, they constantly manage to trip over it.

If I wanted to get a plausible rrat accepted as truth, all I would need to do is:
  • State it confidently, without sperging
  • Put it in a list with known information
  • Link to a dead profile/post/video as evidence
  • DeepL it to Japanese then google translate it back. If a thing sounds vaguely Japanese people believe it for some reason.
It would be indistinguishable from actual speculation people do on /vt/. Prime example of this is the face list, which made a number of claims including Miko doing JAV.
Dane Axe said:
It's who she's down for that's the jailbait, not Suisei herself. Besides even from debut she claimed to be 18 anyway, which already isn't underage.

I'm not sure if Suisei ever went to college/uni. She said she wasn't exactly well behaved in school and questions if university really does look like the background of a game she was playing.
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Somehow I doubt she has time to be taking anyone's loads except her own workload. Even plausibility aside, where's the evidence that started this in the first place? I could claim her mother has diabetes and you'd be none the wiser.

Why would she go to college?
  1. Because she can
  2. Asian parents
 
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kukkia said:
NijiEN SC ranking, going off of Playboard:

1. Pomu Rainpuff (Lazulight) - $163,666
2. Selen Tatsuki (Obsydia) - $122,104
3. Elira Pendora (Lazulight) - $119,462
4. Rosemi Lovelock (Obsydia) - $71,594
5. Millie Parfait (Ethyria) - $65,884
6. Finana Ryugu (Lazulight) - $65,645
7. Nina Kosaka (Ethyria) - $48,462
8. Petra Gurin (Obsydia) - $47,162
9. Enna Alouette (Ethyria) - $34,421
10. Reimu Endou (Ethyria) - $29,876
11. Vox Akuma (Luxiem) - $17,447
12. Mysta Rias (Luxiem) - $12,947
13. Luca Kaneshiro (Luxiem) - $9,969
14. Shu Yamino (Luxiem) - $9,602
15. Ike Eveland (Luxiem) - $4,007

Overall, nothing too surprising. Pomu is the SC queen of Nijisanji, and has been from the get-go, with the dragons in second and third. Millie's SC earning ability has gone somewhat unnoticed by most, as despite having view counts that are on the lower end of NijiEN she's a very solid earner. Nina is the most succesful Ethyria member in terms of views, but Millie leads when it comes to superchats. Luxiem are all at the bottom of the list, but they've been only active for little over a week so that's to be expected. Anecdotally I've also seen them bringing in more in Streamlabs than I remember seeing for the other waves shortly after their debuts. I do feel like they missed out a bit in not making their monetization debut streams into bigger deals, but they will overtake the lower-ranked girls, probably sooner rather than later.
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I'm surprised Pomu earned $40,000 more than Selen.
It's bizarre that Pomu held onto her non-vtubing job for so long if she was earning superchat numbers like this.

I can't believe Finana earned less than Millie. Wtf?!
 
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