Horrorcow Lucas Werner - A man of Spokane, Washington who is obsessed with millennial and Gen Z chicks

[Wernology]

As for the bodycam footage, you could see him just seething internally and low key panicking about how that was going to go. I half expected him to tardrage and quit

I'd been worried about him rage quitting as soon as they said I was on stream, honestly.

The silent rage after I called him a bitch for blocking me was amazing though, as was watching him desperately try to keep his lie afloat and justify targeting a 17 year old with the TCAP worthy, "she messaged me first".

He was mad af that nobody believed him after seeing the footage.

 

[mothman96]

I haven't heard Skeletor's interview yet. Very interesting about the Globe being a gay bar. I will say, that in many places there are as many straight people in gay bars as there are gay people in places like that.

In my experience, from back when I went to bars more often. Lots of young attractive straight women are in places like this. A few reasons why: They feel woke being among gay people and they feel like "allys" (this is the kind of young woman Lucas used to mooo about wanting). They feel like they won't get hit on by men, which is often times true. And lots of gay bars are big dance clubs and they like dancing to the music.

So, fat cow Lucas being a creep in a place like that where young women feel safe and validated would be a huge no, no.

Here is a screenshot from their website. Definitely a place for the gays. While Lucas is a fat faggot, he would be unwelcome in a gay bar.

There was a rumor going round at the time that women were getting drugged at the Globe. I'm pretty sure Lucas found out about it when he was on Lacie's FB. I've wondered if he selected the Globe thinking a drugged Gen Z would be easy prey.

 

[WonderWino]

I'd been worried about him rage quitting as soon as they said I was on stream, honestly.

The silent rage after I called him a bitch for blocking me was amazing though, as was watching him desperately try to keep his lie afloat and justify targeting a 17 year old with the TCAP worthy, "she messaged me first".

He was mad af that nobody believed him after seeing the footage.

Yeah definitely. I suspect the reason he didn't lose his shit was only partially medication related. I think it had far more to do with the fact he knew he was being put on the spot and his behavior exposed in a way that would only confirm him being exactly what people accuse him of if he lost his shit and quit. He was lying through his teeth, being manipulative and as evasive as he thought he could get away with. Just watch his eyes, body language and movements while he's defending his behavior and especially when he thinks he's being clever by admitting certain things, but only to a point that he thinks makes him look somehow redeemed. This medicated lucas is less full on spastic when confronted with his behavior and shifts more toward trying to thinking he's smart enough to manipulate others into thinking he's a better person than he is. If anything medicated lucas is more dangerous than unmedicated lucas as when he's unmedicated he can't keep it together enough for people not to see him for what he is and see him coming alot easier. His behavior from start to finish during that video was setting all kinds of alarms off in my head for him being someone to be very wary of

To put it simply, the medication isn't making lucas saner, make him stop believing his crazy shit or less predatory, its just allowing him to maintain more control over himself so he isn't as obvious about it and has an easier time being manipulative. After seeing that video i'm not so sure lucas being medicated like this is entirely a good thing. I definitely don't like the idea of him skulking around spokane school zones and restaurants, or anywhere around teen girls like this. I can see him psyching himself up to approach someone again

 

[GleamingTheQ-Bert]

I'd been worried about him rage quitting as soon as they said I was on stream, honestly.

The silent rage after I called him a bitch for blocking me was amazing though, as was watching him desperately try to keep his lie afloat and justify targeting a 17 year old with the TCAP worthy, "she messaged me first".

He was mad af that nobody believed him after seeing the footage.

I was really surprised that no one brought up the third possibility. Possibility one is that it happened, possibility two is that Lucas was lying, possibility 3 is that Lucas is so delusional that he thinks people beat him up with baseball bats even though it didn't happen!

This is at least somewhat likely, don't you think?

In any case, it was interesting to hear Lucas admit that he at least partially provoked whatever interaction happened, by being a public nuisance and screaming his usual insane shit directly in front of a bar. He had, of course, never admitted this before.

I guess we'll never know what happened exactly, but my guess is that someone did come up to Lucas and scare him a little bit, Lucas's unmedicated delusional mind might have made that into an attack.

And remember, for the guy who really believes there were women outside of his apartment screaming "we want your babies!" up to his window, the guy who believes the voices on the wind, how much of a stretch would it be for Lucas to believe he was actually attacked by people with baseball bats?

In any case, Klick, you did a great job, and I too have a tiny tiny hope that Lucas may actually turn his life around a little bit. Last night was actually huge progress for him, if it was even in the slightest bit sincere.

 

[mothman96]

In any case, Klick, you did a great job, and I too have a tiny tiny hope that Lucas may actually turn his life around a little bit. Last night was actually huge progress for him, if it was even in the slightest bit sincere.

Just take a look at his IG. It does not reflect in any way he is turning his life around even a little bit. Every 1 of his posts comes from his own wickedness. He was just putting on a "show" so the owls will keep giving him attention and air time.

 

[Wernology]

I was really surprised that no one brought up the third possibility. Possibility one is that it happened, possibility two is that Lucas was lying, possibility 3 is that Lucas is so delusional that he thinks people beat him up with baseball bats even though it didn't happen!

This is at least somewhat likely, don't you think?

In any case, Klick, you did a great job, and I too have a tiny tiny hope that Lucas may actually turn his life around a little bit. Last night was actually huge progress for him, if it was even in the slightest bit sincere.

My guess is he got verbally threatened by people sick of his screaming, then conflated that into the assault story in a bid to get Gen z sympathy.

I guarantee he never thought there would be video evidence that would show it was a lie.

Also, nothing has changed I'd bet.

If he isn't already trying to cook up some mental story about how the bodycam footage is fake or the dms with the 17 year old are doctored something equally dense as damage control to say I'm "lying", I'll buy a hat just to eat it.

 

[Jeep1971]

As long as he's in Mallon Place where he's monitored and made to comply with his meds, at least he'll be safer in that he won't be allowed out to try and target young women anywhere but, at worst, online.

That's good enough, because he's not the sort of person that needs to be on the streets even if he has been generally inept over the years at his attempts to prey on young women.

Lucas is someone that needs enforced structure, boundaries, and medications simply because he's not capable of self-regulating, he's proven that over the years.
That's not even me making fun of him that's just a straight up fact about whatever mental or cognitive problems he has: He isn't capable of taking care of himself and needs to be in a facility like Mallon Place (or similar) where those things can be enforced for him.

I legit don't think he's capable of adulting without supervision and, in general, that's fine, not everyone is and that's not even remotely what makes him a lolcow anyway.

As long as he's supervised by adults and has that shit enforced he'll probably stay on the board games and politics thing because it's what the enforced boundaries allow him to do, they don't allow him to target kids and young women.

My fear is he will start trying to talk to underage girls online. Sure,he risks getting Catfished but when you are at the point of desperation,you don't think shit through.

 

[Da Dude123]

My fear is he will start trying to talk to underage girls online. Sure,he risks getting Catfished but when you are at the point of desperation,you don't think shit through.

If this leads him to one of those autists who runs one of the predator catchers, get the popcorn ready!

 

[Pump Meat]

Emphasis mine:

The silent rage after I called him a bitch for blocking me was amazing though, as was watching him desperately try to keep his lie afloat and justify targeting a 17 year old with the TCAP worthy, "she messaged me first".

TCAP worthy is a spot on assessment and not in the least bit hyperbolic. That is textbook example of what cognitive distortion looks like coming from someone with an unchecked paraphilic disorder. The way Lucas tried to shift the focus away from the content of those communications with a the young adult not of legal age to the motivations of that young adult is telling. It isn't just Lucas trying to create a pretext for a "I did nothing illegal so fuck off with this" strategy, but the young adult's mere voluntary participation in communicating with Lucas over social media is interpreted by Lucas as sexual interest in him.

In a broader context of say, a psychosexual evaluation conducted with the purpose of assessing the likelihood of recidivism, this kind of statement would get inventoried as a red flag.

 

[Trainwreck]

When they told him to turn his camera back on it looked like he was wiping away tears.

 

[Wernology]

When they told him to turn his camera back on it looked like he was wiping away tears.

He was, he cut his camera and mic to have a cry after the DMs with a 17 year old from less than a year ago came up.

 

[moseph.jartelli]

He was, he cut his camera and mic to have a cry after the DMs with a 17 year old from less than a year ago came up.

Dude, He said you weren't as big an asshole as he thought. And his meekness was off the charts. I think it's cause you called him sweetheart. I think the Wern has a crush....

 

[Stafford Beer Bong]

Now that I have finished the podcast I have to say, first off, that I can’t believe he sat there through the whole thing without chimping out or raging quitting. I guess the medication he is on is actually working.

@Wernology did a great job communicating exactly what it is his so called “online haters“ are actually hating about him (his predation of young girls) while downplaying his politics and pseudo-science as just being laughable side shows. And the Ms Parker woman played an interesting role as mother/authority figure, being sweet when needed and scolding him when appropriate.

Lucas being forced to take his meds regularly is like getting an alcoholic sober. Now that he can see clearly, he has to own up to all the terrible shit he did when he was blackout drunk. Watching this podcast was like seeing Lucas’s first intervention after coming out of a long drunken blackout. It’s the first time I have seen him reflect on what was being told to him. Like “maybe just maybe I am doing stupid shit and I can’t just blame the alcohol” i.e. his mental illness.

I don’t want to say he has turned a corner or anything, but if this is the first crack in his psychological armor it’s a good thing.

 

[Wernology]

Now that I have finished the podcast I have to say, first off, that I can’t believe he sat there through the whole thing without chimping out or raging quitting. I guess the medication he is on is actually working.

50% meds and probably 50% realizing how bad it would look after he spent 2 hours doing damage control and trying to come off as a Nice Guy Who Wants To Improve if he lost his shit and ran the second pressure was put on.

Anyway, I got curious as to what the written police report from the "assault" looks like, so I submitted a public records request (if they respond and have one, it'll definitely get posted) and, if I'm not dead tired later I may just grab the body cam footage and laugh through it on a stream while Lucas isn't t here to whine about how I'm "lying" about it.

Edit: This is the face he made in response to me asking why he thought it was okay to DM a 17 year old, "Say 'I love you' to me."

 

[mothman96]

Lucas being forced to take his meds regularly is like getting an alcoholic sober. Now that he can see clearly, he has to own up to all the terrible shit he did when he was blackout drunk. Watching this podcast was like seeing Lucas’s first intervention after coming out of a long drunken blackout. It’s the first time I have seen him reflect on what was being told to him. Like “maybe just maybe I am doing stupid shit and I can’t just blame the alcohol” i.e. his mental illness.

I don’t want to say he has turned a corner or anything, but if this is the first crack in his psychological armor it’s a good thing.

Oh he tried to blame his POS/Predator behavior on his mental illness. @Wernology and Mrz Parker did not let him control the narrative and let him get away with it. I'd say that is why he ended up crying, "playing victim" saying he was abused.

 

[Da Dude123]

He mentions in the podcast how when he was doing all his schizo autistic stuff that people just "lolcowed" him and no one offered to help him. Bullshit. Plenty of people would reach out to him and try to nicely explain the error of his ways. He would in retun mooo and reee and be all "screw you, bigot! I'm plenty good!"

Trying to give Lucas advice never went well due to him being a true lolcow.

 

[Wernology]

Oh he tried to blame his POS/Predator behavior on his mental illness. @Wernology and Mrz Parker did not let him control the narrative and let him get away with it. I'd say that is why he ended up crying and saying he was abused.

I hate it when I have to be 'fair' to Lucas but I took the "I'm just here to take the abuse" comment as a humorous comment/joke. The tone and even, for a change, his words matched his body language briefly. If he came out and said he was joking with that comment, in that specific instance, I would believe it.

He definitely ended up crying when MrzParker and the two Owls didn't side with him and tell me to get fucked because I was a hateful bigot + being just generally frustrated at just a small bit of his dirty laundry being aired with him present and being unable to deflect and control the narrative. He's used to being able to control the narrative when he goes on streams and podcasts with people, and he didn't get to at the end of this one. That definitely caused some frustration tears for him.

Edit: The money shot.

 

[mothman96]

I hate it when I have to be 'fair' to Lucas but I took the "I'm just here to take the abuse" comment as a humorous comment/joke. The tone and even, for a change, his words matched his body language briefly. If he came out and said he was joking with that comment, in that specific instance, I would believe it.

He definitely ended up crying when MrzParker and the two Owls didn't side with him and tell me to get fucked because I was a hateful bigot + being just generally frustrated at just a small bit of his dirty laundry being aired with him present and being unable to deflect and control the narrative. He's used to being able to control the narrative when he goes on streams and podcasts with people, and he didn't get to at the end of this one. That definitely caused some frustration tears for him.

Nah, the comment was not made in humor/joking. He wanted to portray himself as "victimized" by you and Mrz Parker

 

[Wernology]

Nah, the comment was not made in humor/joking. He wanted to portray himself as "victimized" by you and Mrz Parker

What a shame that, like everything else in Lucas' life (including Lucas himself), it didn't work.

 

[Pump Meat]

And remember, for the guy who really believes there were women outside of his apartment screaming "we want your babies!" up to his window, the guy who believes the voices on the wind, how much of a stretch would it be for Lucas to believe he was actually attacked by people with baseball bats?

I'd mash X to doubt.

When people suffering from a delusional disorder (i.e. schizophrenia) are confronted with obvious and overwhelming evidence that their delusion is just a false belief, it really wouldn’t perturb them or make them skip a beat whatsoever; the veracity of delusional beliefs are immune to contravening evidence. The screenshot that @Wernology posted of Lucas' face when he realized people can see bodycam footage is not the face of someone having their delusions challenged, it is the look of someone who just realized they are caught in obvious lie with no plausible deniability.

If Lucas had a delusional disorder with persecutory elements, he would have most likely folded the entire podcast and everyone on it into reinforcing the delusion by claiming they are bad faith actors furthering some agenda with digitally fabricated videos. The resulting paranoia also would have been too much to handle and he would have bounced either immediately or shortly thereafter with no theatrics. The fact that Lucas not only stayed on, but outlasted Wernology, additionally indicates to me he knew it was a lie.

Lucas is so fucking stupid and such a inept liar that even people who loathe Lucas are willing to think he is delusional because his lies are so outrageously bad, they can only be accounted for by a serious mental disorder.