Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Winning side turns the population against the guerrillas so they become terrorists in the minds of the people, cutting off their support and not making it an optics nightmare when they inevitably get mowed down. Did you really not learn anything from Kazakhstan?

That puppet Yanukovic tried that. That didn't work very well for him, and he was "elected" while best friend Putin is a foreign instigator. Did you learn nothing from the protests?

Also, if Russia starts imperialism-ing swathes of civilian populace, the sanctions will turn from "let's make it harder for X person to do Y" to "let's expropriate everything Russian outside Russia"

The Russian economy will never recover, and the oligarch kleptocracy will run all out of pockets to lift

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

That puppet Yanukovic tried that. That didn't work very well for him. Did you learn nothing from the protests?

Terms of the game were different under Yanukovich. Just watch what happens next.

 

[Toothpaste]

Russia never installed faggots or trannies in my government, Russia never made my government love niggers and Mexicans, Russia never spied on me or murdered people with all the tax dollars that my government extracts from us, Russia are not persecuting Julian Assange and Edward Snowden (In fact Russia has been sheltering Snowden for the better part of a decade), Russia never enacted gun bans, Russians have never done anything that negatively affected my life while the American Government has made my life undeniably worse.

Why am I supposed to care if Russia oppresses the faggot lovers and liberals who if they had their way would turn Russia into a carbon copy of America?

All in all, Death to America, Death to The Ukraine, May Donbass be liberated and may Russia be Victorious

You do realize that Russian "hate speech" and "anti-extremism" laws make American restrictions look like a joke. Every single person on this website could be jailed in Russia simply for "inciting public discord". The moment you make a single disparaging remark or joke towards an ethnic group, and you are not part of the protected class, your ass is toast. There's a reason why the biggest Russian imageboard, 2ch.hk, is run from Hong Kong. Thankfully, the Russians don't yet have the resources to fully enforce these laws against the general public.

The Russian glowies have killed more of their own genuine investigative journalists than there exist in the USA. The only reason they are giving refuge to Snowden is due to them knowing how good the optics of it look.

Russia hasn't had to impose gun bans because they have already practically banned all guns. It's almost impossible to get a gun in Russia without some inside connections or bribes.

Going to war with Russia over a piece of Ukrainian clay is one thing, praising Russian tyranny is another. Remember, the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend.

 

[Herty]

Here we go:

 

[Chris Chad]

Russians may or may not have started it, but Americans propagate it.

Of course, but just because America propagates it doesn't mean that Russia is against it. They are every bit an anti-White nation comparable to the USA, and in a lot of aspects completely worse. You cannot be pro White Nationlist in Russia, you cannot be a "nazi", etc. You can still be those things in the West (generally) and especially in America right now. Just because your country is subverted, doesn't mean you should support the one who subverted it.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Terms of the game were different under Yanukovich. Just watch what happens next.

Yeah, he didn't use artillery fire. That's a great way to turn people over to your side.

 

[Clockwork_PurBle]

If draft shit ever happens, which it won't, I want bitches to be drafted too and be out on front line 50/50. Otherwise, I want their right to vote rescinded and back to the fucking kitchen.

A better idea: only people that voted Dem get drafted. The leftoid wahmen that voted for Joe "Killed #MeToo" Biden getting drafted will make up for the rightoid men that will conveniently all get sick or injured.

81 million voots - they'll have quite a bit to draw from!

 

[Herty]

Of course, but just because America propagates it doesn't mean that Russia is against it. They are every bit an anti-White nation comparable to the USA, and in a lot of aspects completely worse. You cannot be pro White Nationlist in Russia, you cannot be a "nazi", etc. You can still be those things in the West (generally) and especially in America right now. Just because your country is subverted, doesn't mean you should support the one who subverted it.

Funded and supported by the Russian government:

Russian Imperial Movement - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

But them again i am Anti-white so who am I to talk about withoid ideology

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

They are probably not annexing Ukraine, just taking the area the Donbass republics claim as their own but Ukraine current holds

Yeah, since Putin talked about those two areas that have wanted to join Russia for a long time, I agree with you. Plus, they've already installed a pro-Russia government in Belarus; they don't need to annex ALL of Ukraine.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Yeah, since Putin talked about those two areas that have wanted to join Russia for a long time, I agree with you. Plus, they've already installed a pro-Russia government in Belarus; they don't need to annex ALL of Ukraine.

Won't be enough. Buffer state is still a buffer state.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

Yeah, he didn't use artillery fire. That's a great way to turn people over to your side.

Reddit-tier take. Nobody was bothered when the Red Army used artillery to clear out Nazi occupiers from Ukraine. Well, some were, but then they escaped to Canada in '45.

 

[Herty]

Yeah, since Putin talked about those two areas that have wanted to join Russia for a long time, I agree with you. Plus, they've already installed a pro-Russia government in Belarus; they don't need to annex ALL of Ukraine.

Indeed you are right, it Is either that or putting a Pro-Russian puppet government in Ukraine but the latter is very unlikely

 

[Meat Target]

A better idea: only people that voted Dem get drafted. The leftoid wahmen that voted for Joe "Killed #MeToo" Biden getting drafted will make up for the rightoid men that will conveniently all get sick or injured.

81 million voots - they'll have quite a bit to draw from!

As if we need more box-kickers and desk jockeys LARPing as Audie Murphy and demanding to be thanked for their cervix....

 

[Rei is shit]

 

[No. 7 cat]

Meanwhile russian troops are drinking themselves to death on post, desperately hoarding supplies from the local populace, and trading equipment for vodka.

"Winning side" doesn't stand up to guerrilla war. Just look at Afghanistan.

The Soviets evolved a fairly good convoy system along all weather roads and tunnels in Afghanistan, and mostly conscripted troops were give guidance on interacting with the population properly and respectfully, like how most women wore the chadaree or burqa (there's a few delusional people on social media who think that the old Afghanistan had many secular minded people outside a tiny urban segment). Anyhow, it isn't clear whether Putin has reversed a post Soviet degeneration which saw a fall in standards which was not wholly a matter of cuts in spending. Rough and ready fighters (like the Rhodesian troopies, can be very good), but it isn't clear how drunks make great fighters.

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Reddit-tier take. Nobody was bothered when the Red Army used artillery to clear out Nazi occupiers from Ukraine. Well, some did, but they escaped to Canada in '45.

And your point is that nobody seems bothered now? I'm having trouble digging through the layers of stupidity here, enlighten me.

 

[RVNX]

Indeed you are right, it Is either that or putting a Pro-Russian puppet government in Ukraine but the latter is very unlikely

He already tried the latter for the past two decades, but with no success because the Ukrainians would have none of it. That's just one more reason why he's upset. The anti-russian stance of the Ukrainians has been a pain in the ass for him, even more so since the Crimea annexation.

 

[Herty]

Anyhow, it isn't clear whether Putin has reversed a post Soviet degeneration which saw a fall in standards which was not wholly a matter of cuts in spending. Rough and ready fighters (like the Rhodesian troopies, can be very good), but it isn't clear how drunks make great fighters.

Even if the Russian infantry is somehow a gigantic mess, that is not what matters today air force is everything. That is how the Russians defeated Georgia so quickly

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

And your point is that nobody seems bothered now? I'm having trouble digging through the layers of stupidity here, enlighten me.

Again, after 7 years of constant skirmishes, economic turmoil, waves of conscriptions, and constant propaganda from every single media outlet most people just want to rip the band-aid off and for everything to come to a resolution. Only few idiot nationalists want to continue "their struggle."

 

[Groundbreaking-maize]

Again, after 7 years of constant skirmishes, economic turmoil, waves of conscriptions, and constant propaganda from every single media outlet most people just want to rip the band-aid off and for everything to come to a resolution.

Yeah, by killing the source of their misery or die trying.