Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Iwasamwillbe]

if Taiwan is attacked it means war between China and the US with the entire rest of East Asia except Burma on the US side

the United States is not going to sit around if China attacks Taiwan

that's why China is not going to attack Taiwan

Taiwan is also the global center of microchip manufacturing and trade.

Nobody is going to tolerate, even for one microsecond, the balls of microchip production being held in a Chinese vice.

 

[GoGoNoJo]

Russia wouldn't go after civilian targets, right? They have to know that would be a terrible fucking idea.

It doesn't matter; no matter what Russia does, the MSM is going to portray them as a horde of vicious baby eaters.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I just don't see the Russian endgame. They are poor as shit wtf are they hoping to achieve here?

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Desperation.

Russia has to reclaim some of its lost borders while they still have enough of a population before their crumbling demographics and abysmal fertility rate makes it impossible for them to defend themselves. It's essentially a Hail Mary. They might win this war but it's all going to be a Pyrrhic affair.

On the one hand, if russia does nothing in allowing an anti russian militaey alliance (nato) to creep up right to their border, they will lose the chance to do something about it.

Second, politically it has the same value as it does for the west. Regardless of how popular wars are, they distract people's attention from other things and people tend to be less rebellious during and in the near aftermath of a war.

It's a good distraction from the fact that everyone just got vaccinated against a virus that was patented by moderna in 2016.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

Russia wouldn't go after civilian targets, right? They have to know that would be a terrible fucking idea.

I've seen multiple suggestions that they're going to clean house like what the US did in Iraq.

 

[JustSomeDong]

They aren't liberals, they're just paid propagandists. This isn't 1940, Ukraine isn't Poland and Putin isn't Hitler. Anyone saying so should be tarred and feathered, and they would have been if our country hadn't devolved into a nation of soycuck coomers.

WW2 has sadly become a foundation myth for a lot of stupid people. You're wasting your time.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

There will be some sort of escalation, but nobody is retarded enough to fire nukes or prompt a scenario where nukes would be an option. You can see Putin had his ego capped hard with this mess, but some sort of response will happen. Even if just symbolic, Russia isn't retarded enough to directly attack NATO powers!

This is Russia flexing for the world to show they are stronk. I don't think it goes beyond Ukraine. I hope not anyways.

The question is how badly Ukraine bleeds them during the process. While Russia will win, it won't be without casualties.

 

[Shittus Maximus]

I just don't see the Russian endgame. They are poor as shit wtf are they hoping to achieve here?

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Striking while they still have power and nationalism on their side. Putin's not a young man, and I don't think he's really announced someone to support.

 

[Meat Target]

Pretty sure the amount lost in that shithole isnt even a blip in the DOD's annual budget.

That's still a fuckton of guns that belong to the People of the United States, which they have a constitutional right to own.

WW2 has sadly become a foundation myth for a lot of stupid people. You're wasting your time.

95% of liberal politics are LARPing as FDR and The West Wing.

 

[Joe Swanson]

At least the next wave of refugees won't be muzzies

 

[GreeneCoDeputy]

That's still a fuckton of guns that belong to the People of the United States, which they have a constitutional right to own.

Umm, AKSHUALLY the vast majority of that equipment was signed over to the Afghan government. It didn't belong to the US anymore.

 

[Shittus Maximus]

Russia wouldn't go after civilian targets, right? They have to know that would be a terrible fucking idea.

Dude they gunned down their own kids when Chechen terrorist took over a school.

 

[Least Concern]

if Taiwan is attacked it means war between China and the US with the entire rest of East Asia except Burma on the US side

the United States is not going to sit around if China attacks Taiwan

that's why China is not going to attack Taiwan

I am concerned that Biden's response to an invasion in Taiwan would be to put his hands in his pockets and whistle in the other direction, even more likely than he does with this invasion.

But we'll see, I guess.

I gotta sign off the Farms and try to distract myself with some vidya or something or I'll never be able to sleep. oh-seven to all the peaceful kiwis out there. Do your best to live to shitpost another day.

 

[Rei is shit]

WW2 has sadly become a foundation myth for a lot of stupid people. You're wasting your time.

The WW2 Poland analogy is a really bad one because the Brits promised to defend the poles. Then they did nothing when Germany invaded - unless you count a few airstrikes, which is probably what the US will try to do in Ukraine.

 

[Breadbassket]

Striking while they still have power and nationalism on their side. Putin's not a young man, and I don't think he's really announced someone to support.

Russia when Putin dies will be something very interesting to watch. This is far fetched but perhaps he is trying to secure his legacy through conquest?

 

[Michael Janke]

At least the next wave of refugees won't be muzzies

you think putin will let the hot ukranian women escape?
nah, well get retarded ghoul looking slavs.

 

[Sex Cannon Lupa]

At least the next wave of refugees won't be muzzies

No one will take them. Daddy Klaus won't let them.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Umm, AKSHUALLY the vast majority of that equipment was signed over to the Afghan government. It didn't belong to the US anymore.

They were all monkey-models too.

 

[Jarch6]

Also here's a wonderfully aged tweet.

At least the next wave of refugees won't be muzzies

If too many Ukrainian 7/10s start arriving expect a feminist heel-turn on their support for open borders and refugees

 

[LUNEKO]

At least the next wave of refugees won't be muzzies

They rather see them gunned down by Russian troops and the women enslaved than take white refugees, you will still get tens of thousands of muzzies tho per democrat mandates

 

[76LD910]

I hate break it to anyone who thinks this will be perceived as some kind of massive fuck up on Biden's part: This is literally the first time this administration has set a policy and not fucked it up.

A lot of people, including myself, believe that this would never have happened with Trump in charge because He would have made a show of force as soon as it seemed likely that something like this was going to happen. He would probably have announced on twitter that He was designating the separatist leaders as terrorists and that He intended to send aircraft over eastern Ukraine to target them and their military infrastructure, daring Russia to attack and start a war with the US.

But hypotheticals like that don't change the fact that the Biden administration has been perfectly consistent in their messaging regarding whats been happening with Russia and Ukraine for the last couple months and what the American response would/wouldn't be if the predictions turned out true.

I've been forced to watch MSM coverage of this shit since the beginning because of the unfortunate politics of my loved ones and I can tell you the messaging has been consistent and simple:

1: Russia has mobilized an enormous military force positioned around Ukraine, including in Belarus, that could likely blitz the rebel territory if not the whole country on a moments notice and there are subtle signs this might not be feint.
2: If an attack happens the US/NATO will not commit any troops to support Ukraine nor any other support that puts personnel in direct conflict with Russian/Belorussian forces and will evacuate military/government personnel if it happens.
3: The US will supplement NATO forces in territory its obligated to defend should this attack, if it does happen, leads to something bigger.
4: If an attack happens the US and its allies will work to implement unspecified economic measures, clearly hinting at an Iranian style blacklisting of vast sections of the Russian economy.

And that's it, that was their stated policy on this matter and I've seen no indications they're deviating from it. The glowies were correct, and every European leader who advocated a soft approach with Russia and downplayed these warnings are eating shit right now, Biden and Boris are looking golden by comparison.