Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Are liberals really unironically retarded on how to shoot a gun?

You just need the gun, the magazine, the bullets and hearing protection if possible as a bonus at bare minimum to shoot gun.

Also weird to see MSNBC promote firearms use to kill people, given their coverage on Kyle Rittenhouse a short while ago and 2A in general.
 
Russia when Putin dies will be something very interesting to watch. This is far fetched but perhaps he is trying to secure his legacy through conquest?
He reminds me of Vespasian in many ways. He let oligarchies happen and then "noticed the fraud" when it Became beneficial to him to prune. He may also not trust people because he's ex-KGB, and we all know how "retired" intelligence people are.
 
can we split this thread into a cum dumpster so people can post actual info relevant to op?

some info from people on the ground, losses on both sides, wounded recovered. No steam rolling. Reported Russian planes and one heli shot down.

Uk AA is still in the game as is combat aircraft.

A lot of infrastructure is still fine, phones work, even landlines across Ukraine.

There is a lot of shit streaming. We'll see some pics of dead people.


Russian rep in UN says it's not over ... blames everything on Ukraine.
 
They might be trying to distract or trying to split forces for the US in hopes of making the US think twice. If they wanted to invade, they could. It would take a couple of million of them but they could force their way in. Then it would be a question of if the powers agree not to nuke anything or if reenacting Fallout is what they want. A limited nuclear exchange may happen before cooler heads prevail.
Dude.

China is in a very precarious position right now, economically and even socially. It's international relations have become complete dogshit as well, what with all the aggressively obnoxious "wolf warrior" diplomacy, armies of annoying China shills, and hordes of irritating "little pink" Han Chinese ethno/racial nationalists/jingoists trying to bully the entirety of Asia in order to bring them to heel. There's a reason why Xi Jinping is cracking down so hard on dissent and non-Han Chinese identities in the mainland, and it's not because China is some super-strong and super-united power who's conquest of Taiwan is inevitable.
 
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Situation isn't very funny, but this reply absolutely is. #UkraineisGeorgeFloyd is sending my sides into orbit.
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I hate break it to anyone who thinks this will be perceived as some kind of massive fuck up on Biden's part: This is literally the first time this administration has set a policy and not fucked it up.
All of that is well and good, but Biden pushing for Ukraine to join NATO and otherwise antagonizing Russia is no small part in why there are currently tanks rolling into the country. That is going to be very hard to save face on. It isn't quite a Neville Chamberlain level fuckup, but it is getting close.
 
Taiwan is a lot better-armed and better-allied than Ukraine is. It has the backing of not just the US, but Japan and South Korea, as well as Australia, Vietnam, India, and Indonesia, who would all war against China simply on principle alone at this point.
On top of that Taiwan produces semi-conductors and other tech goodies for the US.

As to Ukraine:
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Oh no! What will do without Ukrainian...ferrous metals?
 
if Taiwan is attacked it means war between China and the US with the entire rest of East Asia except Burma on the US side

the United States is not going to sit around if China attacks Taiwan

that's why China is not going to attack Taiwan
The hypothetical situation I was imagining didn't involve the main island of Taiwan, but rather Quemoy, a smaller Taiwanese territory located six miles from the mainland that would fold pretty much instantly. I think the US wouldn't do shit if the island was taken because it's close enough to the mainland to make military intervention there even more doomed than intervention in Ukraine right now. I think that the entire East declaring war over this would also be unlikely. China is Japan's top trading partner. Same for Vietnam. I wouldn't be surprised if it topped most of the other countries' lists as well. These countries aren't going to nuke their economies at a time of great political instability while the most essential member of their coalition is preoccupied in Europe, to take back a shitty little island deep inside China's many layers of missile defenses.
 
I hate break it to anyone who thinks this will be perceived as some kind of massive fuck up on Biden's part: This is literally the first time this administration has set a policy and not fucked it up.

A lot of people, including myself, believe that this would never have happened with Trump in charge because He would have made a show of force as soon as it seemed likely that something like this was going to happen. He would probably have announced on twitter that He was designating the separatist leaders as terrorists and that He intended to send aircraft over eastern Ukraine to target them and their military infrastructure, daring Russia to attack and start a war with the US.

But hypotheticals like that don't change the fact that the Biden administration has been perfectly consistent in their messaging regarding whats been happening in Ukraine for the last couple months and what the American response would/wouldn't be if the predictions turned out true.

I've been forced to watch MSM coverage of this shit since the beginning because of the unfortunate politics of my loved ones and I can tell you the messaging has been consistent and simple:

1: Russia has mobilized an enormous military force positioned around Ukraine, including in Belarus, that could likely blitz the rebel territory if not the whole country on a moments notice and there are subtle signs this might not be feint.
2: If an attack happens the US/NATO will not commit any troops to support Ukraine nor any other support that puts personnel in direct conflict with Russian/Belorussian forces and will evacuate military/government personnel if it happens.
3: The US will supplement NATO forces in territory its obligated to defend should this attack, if it does happen, leads to something bigger.
4: If an attack happens the US and its allies will work to implement unspecified economic measures, clearly hinting at an Iranian style blacklisting of vast sections of the Russian economy.

And that's it, that was their stated policy on this matter and I've seen no indications they're deviating from it. The glowies were correct, and every European leader who advocated a soft approach with Russia and downplayed these warnings are eating shit right now, Biden and Boris are looking golden by comparison.
Why is Boris looking golden?
 
Gamergate is key. It's laughable someone thinks they can discuss geopolitics without the ramifications of the struggle for ethics in gaming journalism.
If World War III happens and we all die in a nuclear holocaust or alternatively die from radiation poisoning or get gangbanged to death by hockey mask wearing raiders in BDSM gear in the wasteland, in your final moments I want you to know that all of this could have been averted had we listened to Sargon.
 
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