Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[No. 7 cat]

Turkey is in no position for war lol.

They've raging inflation, not hyper inflation, but verging on triple digits. I guess the pro Russian posture didn't last too long, but Erdogan will pivot again if the Russians bends over Ukraine quickly. Turks are proverbial untrustworthy.

 

[TruthSeekingDaimon]

Imagine Germany helping Ukraine.

 

[Gimmick Account]

Explain to me, in detail, how you would plan on taking out ten thousand heavy tanks.

A single hot-blooded pilot and his super gay looking secret British gundam

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

Imagine Germany helping Ukraine.

Imagine is all you can do about it.

 

[Ly Erg]

Imagine Germany helping Ukraine.

That's pretty funny.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

Those are interesting questions.

Not what I was on about, though, what I was saying is that our governments can do precisely fuck-all except chat shit.

Ukraine is probably the best suited country, full-stop, to fight against Russia at present - it's mobilised, it's there and it's doing an okay-ish job. About what would be expected.

I'm talking about the delusional retards who think it would be wise to get involved - when in reality, Ukrainian forces would be trying to rescue French/British forces who get their shit pushed in by a fully-armed Russian Army Group.

French and British militaries are comically better prepared for killing Russians. Most Uke tanks are outdated, jets in poor repair, IADS hopelessly outdated, and a severe lack of modern ATGMs and LAWs. France and Britain would have none of these issues.

 

[Willie Thrills]

Quit saying "heavy tanks." Heavy tanks haven't existed since Korea. They have "main battle tanks." Also British and American ATGMs and APFSDS-DU ammo has no problem taking out T-90A or T-72B3/M tanks. A single Javelin or TOW-2B will score at minimum a mobility kill if not mission or total kill from a proper hit. Javs and TOWs both cost about six figures.

Fair, MBT is a better term.

And yes, they cost about six figures, weigh 15kg each and there is a few dozen people who can actually carry and fire such weapons presently in Europe. Then you'd be burying your Jav soldiers. Even if perfectly executed, in a foreign country, with immortal supersoldiers who cannot die - they could still only destroy a sheer maximum of two tanks.

You don't need magic, just air superiority
Sad thing the west will not send anything except hollow words

Yeah, magic. Air superiority - in Ukraine - where the entire region is now a no-fly zone.

What exactly do you have in mind here, sacrifice everything up to the channel because you couldn't physically stop Russia from just... driving tanks into whichever air field you use?

Or place the EU/UK's aircraft carriers, all three of them, in the Black Sea until they run out of ammo?

French and British militaries are comically better prepared for killing Russians. Most Uke tanks are outdated, jets in poor repair, IADS hopelessly outdated, and a severe lack of modern ATGMs and LAWs. France and Britain would have none of these issues.

Again, they are not. The UK's military is NOT at all prepared.

Maybe for Naval combat - maybe the RAF can, but for a ground operation, you'd basically be sending the entire British Army to another Dunkirk, at best. A Gallipoli at worst.

 

[God of Nothing]

Women will be women like they did after the fall of France and the occupation of Japan. Have no doubt.

and now we have modern tech to observe it in real time
and to hear excuses for it as well

 

[Vesperus]

Ok flight radar finally let me in.

0000 = USAF Tanker out of RAF Mildenhall, currently tooling around northern Romania.
REDEYE6 = USAF E-8C, apparently launched from a hill in Belgium, now tooling around Poland.
VIPER16 = USAF F16, was lurking around the Moldova/Romania/Ukraine border, now looks likes it's fucking of to Austria.
No Callsign = No fucking idea. Maybe I'm behind a paywall, but apparently it's something in Moldova 14,000 people are watching.
LAGR973 - USAF tanker out of Nuremberg (I could zoom in but that's funny) tooling around over Poland

edit: 23680 people are now watching T7CLB, a Gulfstream G200 heading to Moldova.

Oh. looks like it's heading to place No Callsign landed.

Ooooh.

Farewell, Zelensky. Enjoy your place in the sun. <3

 

[FightenGnome]

Page 300...

(TBH, Russia going towards Sparta after Turkey is a kind of extreme wet dream).

Back before the internet turned to trash.

 

[mr.moon1488]

The Ukrainian military has two thousand heavy tanks.

The UK has approximately three hundred. France is similar.

Russia has around ten thousand.

Explain to me, in detail, how you would plan on taking out ten thousand heavy tanks.

That's around 800,000 tonnes of steaming metal which would require millions of pounds worth, each, of maybe disabling if you got a good hit in.

Describe to me how well you would, logistically, handle such a problem.

How in God's name could you possibly expect to tip the balance of power of an already strong Ukrainian military and push it against the even stronger Russian military - without using magic.

In actuality, they probably can't field nearly that many resources. One of the downsides of being a huge country is that you need to keep a huge force inside your borders at all times for security. Granted even with this though, they still have an overwhelmingly powerful force they can bring into Ukraine. Ukraine's best option would be to fight a war similar to the one the Taliban fought, but there's no indication of them actually doing that.

 

[Kickster]

Fair, MBT is a better term.

And yes, they cost about six figures, weigh 15kg each and there is a few dozen people who can actually carry and fire such weapons presently in Europe. Then you'd be burying your Jav soldiers. Even if perfectly executed, in a foreign country, with immortal supersoldiers who cannot die - they could still only destroy a sheer maximum of two tanks.



Yeah, magic. Air superiority - in Ukraine - where the entire region is now a no-fly zone.

What exactly do you have in mind here, sacrifice everything up to the channel because you couldn't physically stop Russia from just... driving tanks into whichever air field you use?

Or place the EU/UK's aircraft carriers, all three of them, in the Black Sea until they run out of ammo?

Are you familiar with the existence of poland and romania?

 

[TruthSeekingDaimon]

Imagine is all you can do about it.

The better question is, what would it take for germany to become True Germany again?
Like if Russia starts bombing Germany to kill racists/aentisemits, how many would die before that old fire springs back to life.

 

[MugolEx]

Yes, hello. BASED department? Yeah, we got a code BASED in quadrant BASED.

All joking aside, it was Syria's own fault really.

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

Anyway, fuck that, we're in the Command and Conquer Red Alert timeline now

Are you telling me I can have my very own mind-controlled Kari Wuhrer? Dreams do come true!!

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The Ukrainian military has two thousand heavy tanks.

The UK has approximately three hundred. France is similar.

Russia has around ten thousand.

Explain to me, in detail, how you would plan on taking out ten thousand heavy tanks.

That's around 800,000 tonnes of steaming metal which would require millions of pounds worth, each, of maybe disabling if you got a good hit in.

Describe to me how well you would, logistically, handle such a problem.

How in God's name could you possibly expect to tip the balance of power of an already strong Ukrainian military and push it against the even stronger Russian military - without using magic.

Tanks don't matter as much as Air superiority. CAS Jets, Helicopters, and Drones (oh, my!) are a tank's natural enemy. As long as Ukraine can keep their boys flying they should be able to whittle down the tanks. Tanks are cool but they really need a lot of help on the ground and in the air to survive.

 

[Manly_Brony]

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Ukraine is too busy tweeting retarded tweets than it is fighting the Russian forces invading it.

This is actually hilarious because Ukrainian nationalists welcomed ze Germans with open arms, threw parades, pogromed smallhats, joined the Galizien SS and formed anti-partisan units. back then. Looks like both sides are deploying their Nazi cards.

 

[doesnotglow]

I wasn't planning on playing Elden Ring but I just woke up and looked at my portfolio and I'm going to buy some scotch and I need something to avoid looking at markets for a while jesus fucking christ.

 

[Hann]

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>Russia declares war on Ukraine
>Reddit finds out
>???
>Better write some fanfiction to declare my support for Ukraine and make the situation better, somehow.

God, being so fucking retarded is a gift.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Absurdly low. You'd need the US to get involved, things to escalate from regional conflict to total war, and then for it to go so far to shit that somebody pushes the button out of desperation, and given that Joe has already come out as being as full of shit as everyone knew him to be, that's not going to happen.

Even if this is not it, this is setting a tone, how long has it been since there's been a war between two actual militaries with plane vs plane, tank vs tank etc and not a military versus goat herders going "ALLAHU ACKBAR!"?

This wasn't how the 21st century was supposed to be, the 90s "end of history" faggots now look like even bigger faggots than they already did and now even the 2000s era people that thought the future of war was always going to be "brushfire wars" of militaries versus goat herders look foolish.

You'll know whenever there's a war involving Israel that it's then time to make peace with God.