Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Breadbassket]

Here's how Ukraine can still win this bros:

All they have to do is not recognize the war declaration.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Well, he did prevent it though, didn't he? You may note that Russia did not invade The Ukraine during Orange Man's term, but did invade during Slow Joe's term. Pretending it was entirely unavoidable and that Joe dindu nuffin is pure cope.

He didn't, though. He couldn't have because he wasn't president. All he's done now is show support for it and calling it a "Genius" move. So yeah, it would've happened only Trump would be defending it. And of course you Republicans are okay with it because Trump told you to love Russia

Russia was gonna invade no matter what. There's nothing short of all-out war that we could do to prevent it. I don't want a war, and I am guessing you don't either.

 

[CAPTAIN HAPPY]

And yet the Euro Cucks let them be effectively in charge of the EU but that is not on Germany that is on France, and England and every other EU member also, you never answered my question.

Like I said, Germany is an industrial lot. This means they have a lot of money. That's not even mentioning how they always kept putting their niggers in positions of European power since the HRE. It's just how it is with Germans.

Should America fucking Hold Europe's hand through the Rest of Human History like we did last Century.

No. America can let Europe go and live in fairy tale fantasy pixie unicorn land right up until the Eastern Axis takes over everything and comes for you next eventually.

do you know what we should be doing? Solving our Own shit

Retard, have you seen your President? You can't even solve your own shit anymore. That's the problem.

Another gay rant about how the balance of power is only a meme, it's just not real.

Whatever, dude.

Western Europe has had a Decade to be ready for this and the only thing we have heard out of them is *SURPRISED PIKACHU FACE* "SAVE US MURICA"

As said about the German industrial oriented lot, the West has this retarded outlook of Russia, trying to do business with it the Western way, even though it just never works.
All in all, the single only good thing that may come out of all this is that finally the West will learn to never fucking trust Russia. That and how America has become a laughing stock with its gay climate troon rights and shit.

Maybe the austrians, but i think the Balkan femboys are realy in love with germany. and i have no idea why.

Balkans, eh?
Then it's definitely because of some kind of national sadomasochism.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Is he high on his own supply?

Friedman is probably having a religious crisis right now. This is a man who believed we'd arrived at the end of history because no two countries with a Mcdonald's in them had ever gone to war.

And yet here we are.

 

[Cpl. Long Dong Silver]

Russia OP. Devs please nerf.

LOOK HERE, LISTEN

 

[BradCarter]

Here's how Ukraine can still win this bros:

Step 1: Get Russia banned from Twitter
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Putin offers unconditional surrender

 

[Willie Thrills]

That seems worth the cost 100% right now.

"Why should we invest in this?"

"Because America will elect a flailing senile retard who will allow the Russians to put a vice-like grip on our energy supply and leverage it to increase their influence over Europe. Of course, Britain will have left the EU and the Germans will obviously side against the EU, oh and the Taliban will have a larger arsenal than us. This is on top of a global pandemic."

"What the fuck, Jean"

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Uh no there's option 4, make Russia think option 2 will happen if they invade so they don't want to invade

That's the option that was operative for four years. That was also how it was for the Cold War

Russia seriously wanted the US out of Syria but didn't do shit about it because they didn't want to get in a chest to chest confrontation with Trump. Russia knows Biden will flail about doing nothing of consequence that Russia would be forced to care about. They didn't like the US but they respected it under Trump, they neither like nor respect the US today

We are past "why" at this point, we are at the "prevent getting into an armed conflict" stage. With the idiots that caused this clusterfuck by demanding Ukraine be allowed to join NATO it's not looking good.

 

[Breadbassket]

Friedman is probably having a religious crisis right now. This is a man who believed we'd arrived at the end of history because no two countries with a Mcdonald's in them had ever gone to war.

And yet here we are.

Reminds me of the people in the early 20th century who thought World War 1 would never happen because the "economies of the countries involved are to connected to one another".

 

[Happy Fish]

I think HHH is absolutely right about this, which is why it helps to have dissenting opinions in this thread, so it doesn't devolve into a circle-jerk. NATO has been encroaching on Russia for a while and I think the Ukraine's NATO overtures are more-or-less administration independent. Let's say this happened under Trump, his options are:

1) Sanction Russia - lol, they're already sanctioned.
2) Start a conflict that has the potential to escalate to WWIII
3) Do nothing and let Russia have eastern Ukraine

These are essentially the same options Biden has. I think it's pretty obvious both administrations would pick option 3. Even a Jeb Bush administration would pick option 3. Maybe Hillary Clinton would've picked option 2 but that would've only been to sacrifice millions of children to Moloch, not because it was a sound foreign policy decision.

Option 3 is the only option because Americans don't want to be the world police anymore.

Biden had the option of not participating in this gayop back in the Obama era but he did. Its not like he tried super hard at diplomacy here. He was banking on Russia never fighting against NATO's gayop and guess what? They did. If Biden were an actual leader and not just a slab of meat propped up by the Democrats there is a lot he could have at least tried, but this is a fight the left has been picking since the 2010s.

 

[Forest Portal Triumph 747]

I think HHH is absolutely right about this, which is why it helps to have dissenting opinions in this thread, so it doesn't devolve into a circle-jerk. NATO has been encroaching on Russia for a while and I think the Ukraine's NATO overtures are more-or-less administration independent. Let's say this happened under Trump, his options are:

1) Sanction Russia - lol, they're already sanctioned.
2) Start a conflict that has the potential to escalate to WWIII
3) Do nothing and let Russia have eastern Ukraine

These are essentially the same options Biden has. I think it's pretty obvious both administrations would pick option 3. Even a Jeb Bush administration would pick option 3. Maybe Hillary Clinton would've picked option 2 but that would've only been to sacrifice millions of children to Moloch, not because it was a sound foreign policy decision.

Option 3 is the only option because Americans don't want to be the world police anymore.

The cabal that controls Pedojoe demonstrated a great deal of sloppiness in their handling of Afghanistan, which Trump certainly would have avoided, partly due to not going out of his way to further cuck the military (e.g clotshot mandates and transgender surgeries). Trump was also more unpredictable than the cabal that controls Pedojoe, which already screwed up in the Ukraine before Trump's first Presidential election win, and will likely keep screwing up with foreign policy in a fairly predictable manner until Trump's third Presidential election win in 2024.

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Uh no there's option 4, make Russia think option 2 will happen if they invade so they don't want to invade

That's the option that was operative for four years. That was also how it was for the Cold War

I think this is what it boils down to. Biden has come off as incompetent to the world, especially with the whole Afghanistan shit. America looks weak right now which may or may not have motivated Putin to act.

That being said, 99% of it was out of America's hands. There's probably lots of other factors motivating Putin to act now instead of under Trump. Would Putin have invaded under Trump, maybe. Did Biden help the situation, not at all.

 

[Gar For Archer]

What could Biden, or anyone, have done to prevent this, though? Putin was gonna do it no matter what. If Trump was still president, I'd say the same thing, too

Trump absolutely used the image that the media painted of him a crazy, unhinged idiot to his advantage. It doesn’t even matter WHAT you personally think of him - if you were a world leader, would you want to play nuclear chicken with someone you think is an irrational lunatic that can’t be reasoned with?

Would he have followed through with nuking Moscow if Putin invaded Ukraine?

I don’t know. Nobody knows. Most importantly, Putin didn’t know. He could’ve called Trump’s bluff if he wanted to, yet he didn’t.

I agree that this would’ve happened sooner or later. I just don’t think it’s a coincidence that it happened now, and in my opinion if Trump were sitting in the White House right now, Putin would be delaying his plans til after 2024.

 

[EAT TOMATO PASTE]

I know you have autism and thus context is hard for you, but I was responding to people who said Trump would've prevented this. That's why I brought Trump up. What is it with you Republican boomers and not understanding context?

No president would've prevented this. This post sums it up:

Um ya actually it's called Trump withdrawing from NATO so Ukraine isn't our fucking problem (still shouldn't be because they aren't in nato anyways LOL) Fuck Ukraine, I feel bad for the people suffering but starting a world conflict over this is the real mistake.

 

[Full Race Replay]

I have similar opinions. I'll be the first to dunk on Biden, but there's not anything he really can or should do. The only thing, in my opinion, which could have prevented this would be to have had American/NATO forces in Ukraine before this happened. That said, it's evident they didn't want to prevent this given the weeks long warnings we had.

Having stronger nato presence in Ukraine would have escalated this because of you believe Russian state media they say that they are worried about nato surrounding Russia, insinuating that they are going to invade Russia or something. And also Putin demanded Ukraine not join nato. So unless you’re saying hope you can beat Russia in nuclear war I don’t get this.

 

[BayView]

Here's how Ukraine can still win this bros:

two more weeks bros

 

[Still Anonymous For This]

Regardless of that it's fucking annoying to see people crying about off-topic posts, if this thread were that streamlined it'd be ~30 pages long and as dry as Pelosi's cunt.

Before the war broke out we had the same four Eastern European spergs calling each other faggots as to whether or not Russia really did suck dick or not. Now after the war has begun we have everyone calling each other faggots over whether HHH sucks dick or not.

Listen, I don't know how long Ukraine will last, but I do know that until Null is executed by the Russians for hosting Putin tranny photos on Kiwi Farms, people will continue to sperg about dumb shit on A&H.

 

[Nobunaga]

>throw shit at russia for decades and dare them to fucking do it every month
>when le russian man bad does something just slap them with useless sanctions
>egg russian neighbors to join the fuck russia coalition and when russia tells you to fuck off double down
>when the situation is turning real hot real quick throw more gasoline to the fire
Woooooooooooooow, there was nothing biden could doooooooo DOOD
Bugged politics mechanics ack ack ack ack

 

[St.Davis]

He didn't, though. He couldn't have because he wasn't president. All he's done now is show support for it and calling it a "Genius" move. So yeah, it would've happened only Trump would be defending it. And of course you Republicans are okay with it because Trump told you to love Russia

Russia was gonna invade no matter what. There's nothing short of all-out war that we could do to prevent it. I don't want a war, and I am guessing you don't either.

What are you blathering on about? Why do you think I'm "Republican" (I'm not a yank), or that I "Love Russia"?

The fact remains that under Orange Man Russia did not invade The Ukraine, but now under Slow Joe they have done. You Democrats really are retarded and can't admit when your guy fucked up, this is absolutely pathetic and I hope you're actually trolling.

 

[WutangLee]

He didn't, though. He couldn't have because he wasn't president. All he's done now is show support for it and calling it a "Genius" move. So yeah, it would've happened only Trump would be defending it. And of course you Republicans are okay with it because Trump told you to love Russia

Russia was gonna invade no matter what. There's nothing short of all-out war that we could do to prevent it. I don't want a war, and I am guessing you don't either.

A lot of people are gloating about it out of spite. You seem to severely underestimate people's disdain for Biden.