Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Aww, how cute, it's upset! Let me remind you sweaty this is all happening under a senile crook whose handlers seem to be as clueless as you are about US/Russia relations and the consequences of fucking that up, and not your go-to whipping boy. You sound more like the lolcows in the threads you moderate than a well-informed and reasonable observer of current events.

Go outside and touch grass. Or snow, whatever, but go outside and take a deep breath.
Calm down. If you're going to fangirl for Trump post something to back it up rather than being a fag. I think the people playing Defense for the Dementia-ridden pedo-in-chief is bad, but you are literally mad at the internet.


I like my armageddon threads comfy, not cringey. Either post memes about Biden getting bambozzled by a Russian chimp or don't post.
 
I hear bombs/shelling in Kiev right now.

Edit - several explosions, doggos barking. :(

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Yeah, I'm sure Stalingrad was "close to falling" when the Germans were 20 miles outside of there too.

I've said this multiple times now, but unless Kiev is declared an open city or something, shit is gonna get bloody. Regardless of who ultimately wins.
 
Their servers seem fucked. Finally got the article text to load on my phone:



You don't think they might push for bigger prizes now that the die is cast? What you say is basically a list of what they were demanding pre-war.
When Putin gave his speech that makes reference to "decommunization," he seemed to be insinuating a willingness to at least take back what Lenin gave to Ukraine in 1922.
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Others are speculating he might take the Lenin bit plus everything his side of the Dnieper, or even more than that to seize all of Kiev and the surrounding area, leaving a small Ukrainian rump state in the northwest. I don't know that I would say that it is probable, but I think this kind of stuff is at least on the table as a possibility. It just depends how far Putin is willing to go. Even if he is not willing to go that far, I would not be terribly surprised if an extreme idea comes out as a start to negotiations, and then they walk back from there to some form of compromise.
If it were me personally, I'd want everything to the east of the Dnieper and nothing to the west of it, but it's kind of hard to tell.
 
That's such an unrealistic hypothetical it's not even worth thinking about. It won't happen.
Funny enough that is exactly what people said when I asked "What do you think would happen if Trump actually wins?"

I'm as surprised I'm even asking the question to begin with, but the anecdotal story from Snake Island is a sign that the Ukrainian military is actually putting up a fight instead of just deserting their posts at the first sign of Russian troops, which is what I was expecting.
 
I just had a weird thought...

Suppose Ukraine somehow manages to repel this invasion, or at least drag Russia into a messy year long stalemate, destroying their military and what remains of their economy in the process, could that lead to the disintegration of NATO? I'd imagine in that case a lot of countries are going to be asking "Well if the Ukrainians managed to fend off Russia, why are we bothering to pay these dues?"
Yeah, if the US won't do anything useful, the next biggest militaries like France or the UK (maybe Poland as it's there and spends what it should on its military) are hardly going to be of help. A Russian failure might be a very mixed blessing for the western alliance.
 
It's in Russias self interest not to allow missles from enemies of theirs next to their borders. Shits not fair for Ukraine but might makes right in this instance, which isn't fair but that's my line of thought on this.

When you have two competing interests the stronger party gets to determine what happens, which isn't fair or "right" but as long as Russia doesn't absorb all of the Ukraine into itself I think Russia gets to claim the morale high ground. Or atleast a claim to it.
I get that but again, you're trying to force a group of people who make it very obvious that they don't like you and have already made a series of agreements and treaties to calm your fears. Also this isn't the first time Russia attempted to pull some shit like this. I hope Ukraine shits on Russia like Georgia did.
 
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