Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[Clint Torez]

I dunno what's a worse source of information to keep up with the conflict, the mainstream media, and all its agenda-pushing or this thread with the same 5 people having constant slap fights with each other. I'm so glad the feature system exists.

 

[BlackDragoons]

I get that but again, you're trying to force a group of people who make it very obvious that they don't like you and have already made a series of agreements and treaties to calm your fears. Also this isn't the first time Russia attempted to pull some shit like this. I hope Ukraine shits on Russia like Georgia did.

Flaw logic since Ukraine was never going to be in NATO. You need a unanimous vote to get in and not everyone wanted them. Also doesn't change the fact that its only a 5 minute flight from England to Moscow.

 

[Herty]

Further reporting of the situation:

 

[WD-40]

Bombs over Odessa


Edit: Footage of the explosion, it appears to have been an intercepted missile.

 

[Stoneheart]

but he's out somewhere.

its any time of the day, so hes drunk....

 

[RVNX]

Looks like the bright flash over Kiev just now might have been an intercepted projectile.

 

[Coomfucius]

You think it's depressing now wait if the Ukrainians decide to make a stand in Kiev and go through with it

Putin won't go full Grozny but it will be pretty damn spectacular NSFL shit

At least it will satisfy the people who are whining that there isn't an explosion every millisecond

 

[Doctor Placebo]

You're reversing cause and effect. The new government in The Ukraine after the coup was already going to join NATO. They overthrew the previous government in order to do exactly that. This put Russia in a damned-if-you=do, damned-if-you-don't situation. If they didn't threaten The Ukraine, The Ukraine would just join NATO and put NATO missiles, etc in its territory pointed at Russia. if they did threaten The Ukraine, they're "driving it closer to NATO." They went with the latter, because at least there was a possibility of the Ukrainian government backing down. That didn't happen, so now we have bullets flying.

As for getting a border with 4 more NATO countries, you're buying into the idea that Russia intends to add the whole Ukraine to its territory. This seems to be western propaganda, since Putin sent out a video speech that he'll negotiate surrender terms if The Ukraine agrees not to join NATO and to demilitarize. If The Ukraine complies, it will still exist as a buffer state between Russia and those other NATO states, although he possibly also intends to take the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, if it looks like he can get away with it.


I don't blame Poland for feeling that way, considering that the west hung them out to dry the last time they were invaded. But as I said above, Russia keeping all of The Ukraine doesn't appear to be the agenda, and this just gives them another good reason not to. If they're smart, they'll steer clear of the Polish border to avoid adding another enemy to the conflict. Of course, military blundering or too much belligerence bringing Poland into the conflict is always a possibility.

Sharing my own post from the news megathread about why this is actually happening, since there's so much misinfo about it.

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

Someone who's a little more knowledgeable in Russian air power:

What kind of jet was the "Ghost" flying?

What's the combat payload on it?

Because six kills without landing and rearming, refueling?

Kinda interested in what kind of weapons he was packing.

MiG 29 jet, nothing else is known

 

[Emperor Pupienus]

Scoop: U.S. eyes training Ukrainian troops remotely

>Secretary Nigger, Ukraine is falling. Their president is about to have a Hitler Downfall moment in the Kiev bunker. What is America going to do?
>I know just the thing, we'll run some Zoom remote learning classes!
Does America still qualify as a serious country?

 

[Leslie Nielsen]

its any time of the day, so hes drunk....

I met him in a bar, so you're probably right.

 

[Samir Al Hajeed]

Someone who's a little more knowledgeable in Russian air power:

What kind of jet was the "Ghost" flying?

What's the combat payload on it?

Because six kills without landing and rearming, refueling?

Kinda interested in what kind of weapons he was packing.

I think the 6 kills thing comes from retards misinterpreting Ukraine reporting 6 jet kills in total, as in in the last day by all of the Ukrainian military. There's absolutely no chance its true.

 

[Superman93]

Part of the problem is Eastern Ukraine wants to be Russian and NATO + USA wouldn't agree to Russias demands of Ukraine never joining NATO and Ukraine disarming heavy weapons. Now while I get not wanting to disarm, not agreeing to the first one definitely makes what's going on understandable even if I don't like it.

Ukraine definitely disarmed themselves.

Like I said before, Ukraine handed over their nukes which I bet they're regretting now. Again, we've been trying to appease paranoid autocratic skizo's who take their speech notes from /pol/.

 

[BradCarter]

Looks like the bright flash over Kiev just now might have been an intercepted projectile.

Might be an air battle. I don't know how many patriot systems Ukraine has

 

[Full Race Replay]

I've been trying to get a hold of my Russian friend to ask him what he thinks of all this, but he's out somewhere. He lives like an hour from me and has a love-hate relationship with Russia so I think his opinion would be really interesting. He must be shook as hell.

As a burgerland kiwi I know how it feels to have citizens not be all in favor of everything the government does, especially the military.

 

[Screamer]

China will be onlooking to see just how steep the sanctions are on Russia and doing a calculation if they can afford to take Taiwan. Russia is effectively testing the 21st century waters for them cause as we know China never does anything original first.

China has just witnessed how much the west depends on what they produce. China will be watching how the sanctions go. Will they be meaningless? Or will the west shoot themselves in the foot by putting hard sanctions and doubling the cost of petroleum for themselves?

Either way, it will signal to China the west will likely do jack all.

Although China will probably do nothing as they like playing the long game.

All the while Israel will launch some horrible offensive against the Palestinians because they never let an international crisis go to waste for being a distraction from their antics.

 

[burntwater]

Scoop: U.S. eyes training Ukrainian troops remotely
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>Secretary Nigger, Ukraine is falling. Their president is about to have a Hitler Downfall moment in the Kiev bunker. What is America going to do?
>I know just the thing, we'll run some Zoom remote learning classes!
Does America still qualify as a serious country?

Oh good they can take their online diversity training.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Father saying goodbye to his daughter as he puts her on a bus to safety and he stays behind to fight for Ukraine (Link):
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This is what it looks like to actually stand up for something. It isn't pronouns in your profile, it isn't changing your logo to show solidarity, it isn't lying and collecting money on that lie and vanishing; it is sacrifice. Something very few people have it in them to do.

 

[MindYourSeabiscuits]

I dunno what's a worse source of information to keep up with the conflict, the mainstream media, and all its agenda-pushing or this thread with the same 5 people having constant slap fights with each other. I'm so glad the feature system exists.

The sad thing is this thread is the more reliable source of information.

 

[Stoneheart]

What kind of jet was the "Ghost" flying?

What's the combat payload on it?

Because six kills without landing and rearming, refueling?

mig 29 and some of the kills were very old CAS.