Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

[JambledUpWords]

They don't have the manpower and equipment to btfo Putin and everyone knows it.

The hand Ukraine is playing is to go down swinging in the hope that they can salvage some kind of rump state if they bleed the Ruskies sufficiently. Think Winter War.

The only way Ukraine has any chance is if the US joins them directly in fighting and we give them more of our men, tech, and weapons. Though, by then it just becomes an even bigger war and I doubt the US will have an easy time getting recruits. It really should not have gotten to this point in the first place, but I’d rather the US not get involved. We should just let Europe deal with it.

 

[BiggerChungus]

Man imagine looking being memorialized with a smug soyface.

I want to say any American casualty by the Russians is a tragedy; except this guy in particular.

He couldn't beat those snipers, man.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

I'm sure all their untrained conscripts will die honorably as they're mowned down by the Russian troops.

I didn't say it wouldn't be bloody. Just that the idea is to take as many Ruskies with you as you can.

 

[doesnotglow]

I stand corrected the one flight site was bugged. The airplane is currently indeed being redeemed in Turkey.

 

[mr.moon1488]

I'd tend to believe the other media here. There's no benefit in pro Ukranian sources contradicting Ukraine and saying it was one of theirs.

Most of the stuff here is pro-Ukranian. I suspect that a lot of people here are going to be unpleasantly surprised when the fighting is over and we start getting real casualty numbers.

 

[Shrek]

RIP
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The amount of people falling for this bait shows the absolute state of this fucking board.

 

[God of Nothing]

I didn't say it wouldn't be bloody. Just that the idea is to take as many Ruskies with you as you can.

it won't be many
and they'll lose way more. being unprepared and demoralized

 

[Kermit Jizz]

Idk what a TIE fighter sounds like because I'm not a Star Wars mimsy.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS RETARD DOING

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The needful.

 

[Breadbassket]

So this retard went out and danced around because he's an American activist in another country causing shit?

I hope he fucking screamed while he bled out from the mine.

Faggot.

I'm not sure if your for real or not but there is a possibility this may be someone else. RIP Bernie Gores though.

 

[Meat Target]

Then how do you know what a TIE fighter is?
Check.
Mate.

Because soy wars fagaloonery infects every facet of society, because we live in a faggoty fagworld that has never known an inkling of hardship, and needs to build some character to save itself from its terminally faggoty faggotry.

If you enjoy any of soy wars or capeshit, I wanna scream at you and kneel on you until you cry.

 

[BayView]

The amount of people falling for this bait shows the absolute state of this fucking board.

funny thing is that image was posted back in like page 100 and even then people fell for the bait

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

So this retard went out and danced around because he's an American activist in another country causing shit?

I hope he fucking screamed while he bled out from the mine.

Faggot.

I think the image is fake, or CNN got tricked by somebody. Because that's Wings Of Redemption, who, to my knowledge, is a still-living lolcow.

 

[MrJokerRager]

They haven't really seemed to do the human wave zerg rush shit since the 50s.

I read somewhere that the zerg rush meme came from pissed off post WW2 Wehrmaht generals butthurt at losing to Ivan and told the Allies it was a zerg rush.

Also Stalin was much into the whole blood sacrifice thing as well and that one infamous order of his, has been heavily misunderstood since it was dropped later on.

On a final note, apparently the Soviet Archives were opened for the first time a couple of years ago and they state that there was enthusiasm among the red army for wanting to go to Berlin.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

did anyone post the Sanctions we are putting down? If not I found a list and they are so..so harsh.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

The only way Ukraine has any chance is if the US joins them directly in fighting and we give them more of our men, tech, and weapons. Though, by then it just becomes an even bigger war and I doubt the US will have an easy time getting recruits. It really should not have gotten to this point in the first place, but I’d rather the US not get involved. We should just let Europe deal with it.

Any chance of what? I already said "winning" is off the table. We all know that. I'm describing the "honorable defeat" that they are trying to salvage.

 

[76LD910]

The front in eastern Ukraine has seen the most glow in the dark activity of perhaps any war ever, so understandably both sides are familiar with control of information. That being said after catching up on what little can be legitimately verified via video I have to say I'm not that impressed with the Russian performance so far and can't really see where this is heading.

I fully understand that Russian leadership ideally wants this done decisively with as few Ukrainian casualties as necessary, but the fact were still seeing fixed wing aircraft being downed a full day in indicates that either Russia aircraft are flying over precarious MANPAD traps without ground support or proper SEAD, or even worse somehow haven't taken out all of Ukraine's air assets by now and were seeing Ukrainian aircraft still being downed at this stage.

Every engagement with Russian's we've seen have been with vanguard units and the overwhelming majority of Russian forces have likely been limited to rear guard duties, but they haven't gone nearly as far as I would have expected and we've seen no evidence of mass capitulations on the Ukrainian side nor has the goverment evacuated.

I'm getting the impression what we've seen so far has been testing the waters more than anything else, hoping the for a quick goverment/military collapse or large pro Russian uprisings to make the optics seem less fucked. We haven't even seen any real urban combat, I expect it will get a lot more violent before any decisive conclusion.

 

[draggs]

Most of the stuff here is pro-Ukranian. I suspect that a lot of people here are going to be unpleasantly surprised when the fighting is over and we start getting real casualty numbers.

I'd expect Ukrainian military casualties to be 3-5 times Russia's

Who knows though

 

[Scotsman]

So this retard went out and danced around because he's an American activist in another country causing shit?

I hope he fucking screamed while he bled out from the mine.

Faggot.

Apparently his last words were “Why the fuck you stream that shit!?” And “Look here! Look! Listen! Appearing offline does not fucking stop it! So stop giving fucking advice you know nothing about!”

 

[Jarch6]

That’s actually WingsOfRedemption, an obese lolcow.

I think the image is fake, or CNN got tricked by somebody. Because that's Wings Of Redemption, who, to my knowledge, is a still-living lolcow.

Stop spoonfeeding! These motherfuckers need to lurk moar!

I don't know man. As some other people in this thread helpfully reminded me a while back, Xi Jinping might get desperate as China declines more and his power continues to slip further away from him.

Is it? I know with Russia the demographic decline, plus the inevitable power vacuum that will form when Putin dies, give it a likely expiration date, but with China, things seem to be looking OK. At least compared to the U.S., those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones and all that.