Russian Invasion of Ukraine (2022): Thread 1 - Ukrainian Liars vs Russian Liars with Air and Artillery Superiority

How well is the combat this going for Russia?

  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Blyatskrieg

    Votes: 46 6.6%
  • ⭐⭐⭐⭐ A well planned strike with few faults

    Votes: 45 6.5%
  • ⭐⭐⭐ Competent attack with some upsets

    Votes: 292 42.1%
  • ⭐⭐ Worse than expected

    Votes: 269 38.8%
  • ⭐ Ukraine takes back Crimea 2022

    Votes: 42 6.1%

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Honestly, that is sad. The West...the people he thought were his allies and friends are done with you. They will not help you, after all while the words "NEVER AGAIN!" were uttered by the lips of those who were alive during the Holocaust when the genocide reared it's ugly head again the West response were meek condemnation between drinks at the UN.

You need to assess your options. The Russians are right outside your capitol and the Deus ex machina of the some American B2 or whatever is going to remain a fantasy. Once your capitol is gone expect your forces to get demoralized. It's not even that you can take it back.

So why continue to beg and plead? Preferably surrender or fight but get off TV with your begging.
he's partly responsible is why
he wants someone to save him from blame
 
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Also, Ukrainian ambassador in Japan announced they need more air support. Why in Japan? No idea, but that's what it says.
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NATO hasn't been focused yet. They could still strike to deny the Russians Kiev. I'd like confirmation on this though.
 
This is starting to resemble the long term consequences of the winter war where the Finnish knew they couldn't stop the Russian juggernaut taking over all of the nation without help but they could bleed them as much as possible for Moscow to keep questioning the value of the war. How much damage can Ukraine do to Russia is the real battle. Ukraine will lose the war no doubt, just how much of a body count can it rack up is the real battle.

The Ukrainians are fighting to stay as an independent nation. If they can achieve that, they've won.
 
Not to be a deboonking party pooper, but couldn't that just be the type of coincidence where the Fauci bioweapon labs are situated in the settlements that are biggest or most important, while the Russians are targeting the same settlements because they are biggest or most important, rather than anything to do with the labs directly?
Honestly, I agree. I mean, you'd think that their equivalent of Fort Detrick or USAMRIID would be co-located with military bases hosting various other types of equipment.
 
>Russian military vehicles driving in northern Kyiv
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Wouldn't be suprised if the Russian's capture the city to declare themselves the winner. and demoralize the Ukranians. They're probably flooding the city to see who can get their first.
That's a SAM launcher Strela-10 air defense system, Ukraine has 75 of those. It doesn't really make sense to me that Russia would send a SAM as the first vehicles into Kiev.
 
lol @ the conveniently strewn about MREs.
This has the same energy as law enforcement "finding an ID" after a terrorist attack (with perpetrator on the run, which then gets conveniently shot dead).

And: Tank crew gets out of tank to get shot, tank is still running and they were there alone? Weird. Facebook source too, the first place anyone would try to upload false information tbh.


Isn't shit like that breach of some war conventions as well? Or was that only for soldier masquerading as civilians?
Likely the armoured vehicle got hit and the crew and passangers bailed. I think a crew + passangers in a BMP-2 is 2 + 8, so most of them likely managed to retreat, unless it held no passangers. In that case it got hit and the hit killed the crew, but did not disable the engine. My guess is that Ukrainian troops have pulled out the bodies out from inside the vehicle, and also looted it of food, cigarettes etc.
 
Apparently Tucker is being called a traitor basically because some Russian TV program played his clips shitting on some forever war supporting congressmen lol a few months ago.

The Talichads know how much it sacrificed to defeat a superior force through blood and sweat and tears and goats. They don't want Ukraine to go through Medal of Honor on Veteran mode.
 
lol @ the conveniently strewn about MREs.
This has the same energy as law enforcement "finding an ID" after a terrorist attack (with perpetrator on the run, which then gets conveniently shot dead).

And: Tank crew gets out of tank to get shot, tank is still running and they were there alone? Weird. Facebook source too, the first place anyone would try to upload false information tbh.


Isn't shit like that breach of some war conventions as well? Or was that only for soldier masquerading as civilians?
Bodies look like they've been searched, which means the vehicle would be, too, and foreign MREs are always a delicacy to a soldier.
 
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Surely the plan is a smash 'n grab. Smash Ukraine and Western pride and grab land.

Their plan is likely to enter Kiev and to create some sort of new friendly government. They already had control of nearly all the territories they were interested in
before the war even started. All I can say is "good luck with that".

Any government that they create is going to be inherently unstable and minus the money that was being pumped into Ukraine from the west, what little is left of
the Ukrainian economy is going to totally collapse after this. Ukraine was bankrupt before the war started and they will be something worse than bankrupt after
the fighting ends. The Russians are going to have another expensive mess on their hands.

The only sane future for anyone in Ukraine at this point is emigration.
 
Likely the armoured vehicle got hit and the crew and passangers bailed. I think a crew + passangers in a BMP-2 is 2 + 8, so most of them likely managed to retreat, unless it held no passangers. In that case it got hit and the hit killed the crew, but did not disable the engine. My guess is that Ukrainian troops have pulled out the bodies out from inside the vehicle, and also looted it of food, cigarettes etc.
Crew is 3, likely no passengers since the doors in the back are still closed.
 
>UK estimates Russia has lost more than 450 service members in Ukraine attack
>Heavy gunfire heard in northern Kyiv, where Russian forces have been seen
 
That's a SAM launcher Strela-10 air defense system, Ukraine has 75 of those. It doesn't really make sense to me that Russia would send a SAM as the first vehicles into Kiev.
Russian SHORAD in general has been surprisngly absent from pictures and video.
 
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