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How well is the war this going for Russia?

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lol no. Every week or so they start with a new Russia "only has supplies for X number of days", and it always turns out to be bullshit. The Chechens who Russia has been kind of using like auxiliary forces have more ammunition than they know what to do with, so it's fairly safe to say Russia's direct forces are not short on ammo.
There's a difference between rounds that go into a rifle, and missiles that weigh in at 100-200 lbs each and get fired in volleys.
The Chechens are magdumping into buildings but they're not in charge of the actual weapons that produce casualties.
 
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The Russian Navy has a fascinating history of being inept. I love naval history, so I'll share a bit for reference.

Probably their most shining moment was the Battle of Tsushima, during the Russo-Japanese War. They managed to lose almost their entire fleet to the Japanese while only sinking 3 Japanese Torpedo boats. Russian highlights included:
  • Having almost no reconnaissance in the area
  • No wireless communication, and their signal lights/flags were blocked by fog
  • Due to the above, they ended up charging directly into the Japanese fleets' broadside. They lost 5 of their 8 Battleships in the resulting battle.
  • They had never practiced Night Fighting, while the Japanese were experts in it. They actually gave away their positions by turning on searchlights and got torpedoed for it.
Starting their proud tradition of burning their ships they stored Coal on deck, used flammable paint, and used lower-quality Black Powder that was both less stable and produced extreme amounts of smoke.

They didn't realize that the Japanese were using High Explosive shells that could exploit this. Supposedly, single hits from Japanese shells during the night fighting made entire ship decks and superstructures light up like a candle, making then hilariously easy to target.

To their credit, the Russian Admiral surrendered the next day, knowing that he could be shot by his superiors for it, rather than sacrifice over 2,000 sailors by fighting a hopeless battle. He was sent to Russian prison for this.


Of special note is that the Russians surrendered all of their ships to the Japanese. But after examining them, found them so outdated and poorly designed that they used them for gunnery practice and scuttled them rather than try to salvage anything.
 
Presently there's no real way to know exactly how much damage has been done to the thing. It could be anywhere from "Slightly singed" and being hauled away as a precaution, to "Unsalvageable". Depending on who you support it's fairly easy to believe either scenario, but I'm reserving judgement presently.
Going armchair admiral, but I feel it would be more of a moral loss than actual loss of a key asset.

like the Kuznetsov carrier its old, and needs a lot of upgrading. Also by design the moskva/slava class are rather unwieldy for a land conflict. They were designed to kill carrier strike groups, not to attack land targets.

That's why its been Russian frigates doing all the heavy lifting in the black sea so far, at least the stuff they bother to tape.
 
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If both the American glowies and the Russsian MoD agree on something it's probably true, so I think it's reasonable to assume the ship is damaged but still operational. Yet another instance of Ukraine Lies About Absolutely Everything™ though. Hohol faggots really can't help themselves.

Operational as can it fight or operational as its not sinking and it can crawl ?
 
Going armchair admiral, but I feel it would be more of a moral loss than actual loss of a key asset.

like the Kuznetsov carrier its old, and needs a lot of upgrading. Also by design the moskva/slava class are rather unwieldy for a land conflict. They were designed to kill carrier strike groups, not to attack land targets.

That's why its been Russian frigates doing all the heavy lifting in the black sea so far, at least the stuff they bother to tape.
Here's the real problem, the Russians no longer have possession of the shipyards used to make those ships, they're in Ukraine now. It could very well be that these ships are functionally irreplaceable.
 
The issue is that there are real world limits on how warfare is conducted.
Even if Russia decided to whatever reason to do a genocide run on this bitch, going full on Dresden requires a large expenditure of munitions. Why expend those on turning cities into rubble, which makes them harder to capture, when they're better used on combat troops actually defending the cities? Fighting without restrictions is never possible because the real world imposes restrictions. The poor Ivan trying to deliver tank rounds and artillery shells to the front is probably driving a Z-marked civilian van that's going to have to be ditched and replaced by another civilian van in a week due to the stress of having to carry munitions in roads full of mortar holes. All because a truck got bogged down in the first week and a farmer took it home with his tractor.
What are "full war" levels? More people? That means more food that has to be trucked into Ukraine. More artillery? Someone has to haul the shells from the rail to the front. More helicopters flying close air support? They need jet fuel to run those turbines, and they can't fly comfortably into Ukrainian positions due to the proliferation of Stingers and now Starstreak missiles.
Right now Russia is playing their cards right by not overextending or blowing their load and depleting themselves of supplies.

Let me put it this way. If you're shooting, you're always running out of ammo.
Let's say you can get 600 rounds of artillery delivered to you every week. If you fire 100 rounds every day, you're going to run out within the week.
No matter how much ammo is stockpiled in Siberia, you don't have access to it. So you limit your fire rate to make sure that by the time you're almost out, you're getting new shipments in.
There's a difference between rounds that go into a rifle, and missiles that weigh in at 100-200 lbs each and get fired in volleys.
The Chechens are magdumping into buildings but they're not in charge of the actual weapons that produce casualties.
I think you're forgetting that the entirety of the South Eastern AO is less than a day's drive from Rostov-on-Don which is one of the biggest transport hubs in Russia.
>Z-marked civilian van
Also this kind of stuff is just nuts.
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Every country brings civilian contractors to do shit behind the lines, and those civilian cars people keep pointing to are almost certainly owned by some company the Russian military has contracted.
 
I think you're forgetting that the entirety of the South Eastern AO is less than a day's drive from Rostov-on-Don which is one of the biggest transport hubs in Russia.
>Z-marked civilian van
Also this kind of stuff is just nuts.
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Every country brings civilian contractors to do shit behind the lines, and those civilian cars people keep pointing to are almost certainly owned by some company the Russian military has contracted.
Sometimes they will enlist those contractors into the military in times of war so that they get POW protections, the British did it during the Falklands war.
 
No. They just enjoy painting Russians as cavemen to sell the entire "they only attacked us because of how PROSPEROUS we became under DEMOCRACY" spiel. "Putin is AFRAID his own cave people will see how PROSPEROUS we are and TOPPLE HIS REGIME with their clubs and stones, which is why he sees Ukraine is a threat. Send more money and weapons."

Couple of weeks ago they were claiming Russians saw paved roads and street lamps for the first time. Not kidding.
There really hoping for another Decembrist revolt aren't they Let's see how that goes this time around.
 
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>They would have seen it coming
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No. See, the thing about sea skimming missiles is they're really really hard to pick up at range, hell, until they cross the horizon line they're pretty much invisible. That's pretty close. If you've got your search and targeting radar turned to one direction, you're not going to be dialed into other threats. So, missile comes over the horizon, goes active on you, and you now have thirty seconds to shit your pants because guess what, you're now down to two OSA launchers because they're inside the minimum range of your S-300's.
Not sure about Neptunes & Harpoons, but I know both NATO & Russia has missiles that swarm low, with one or two popping up to relay sensor & guidance data back to the others on the deck. Ukraine might've been able to do the same with a drone, which is why the Russians didn't take it seriously & reference it as a diversion.
Word got out that a US citizen was captured but now it seems he was KIA.

"It looks like the American has died in action, translation + I blurred out the ID."

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Did the huge Chechens find one laying around, possibly at the home of an American living in Ukraine? Pretty sure if they had a dead American, they'd be dancing on him for TikTok.
 
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So, I guess they are not running out of ammo then?
Lol
They've been out of food, fuel, ammo, and cats for the past week to two weeks. You can ask @Getting tard comed he was one the keeping track of that.
They've run out of EVERYTHING twice now. They will run out of EVERYTHING again either today, tomorrow or the next day according to some smart boy here on the farms, and then they will run out of EVERYTHING again on May 9th according to Western reports on Russia's higher ups talking about the state of the war as of 20 days or so ago according to the same smart boy.

Please ignore the build up of troops and equipment coming from Russia right now to relaunch an attack on a northern front again once the donbaus action is finished. It isn't happening and Russia doesn't have food, ammo, fuel, or manpower, much less equipment to launch anything.

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"The cross fell, but the sword held on."


A monument to Archangel Michael miraculously survived in the square in Borodyanka, Kiev region.


As a result of the shelling, the cross eventually fell. However, the sword stayed in his hand.
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“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. "
 
At this point i decided to just tune out of the conflict because it got too tiresome, nowadays i only check reuters, the telegrams and this thread only about once everyday and carry on without giving a shit about what's happening on the other side of the ocean, and if something REALLY important happens i'll know eventually because it will spread like wildshit on the internet.
If ukraine manages to cuck russia into retreat then good, if russia manages to keep some chunks of ukraine then good. If everything goes to shit and nukes fly then there's nothing i personally could've done to stop it so whatever. If this war stays stalled then whatever. Ukraine, russia, NATO, burgers can all go suck dick, but at the same time i wish them peace.
 
"The cross fell, but the sword held on."

A monument to Archangel Michael miraculously survived in the square in Borodyanka, Kiev region.

As a result of the shelling, the cross eventually fell. However, the sword stayed in his hand.

“Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. "
Powerful symbolism, that.
 
Lol

They've run out of EVERYTHING twice now. They will run out of EVERYTHING again either today, tomorrow or the next day according to some smart boy here on the farms, and then they will run out of EVERYTHING again on May 9th according to Western reports on Russia's higher ups talking about the state of the war as of 20 days or so ago according to the same smart boy.

Please ignore the build up of troops and equipment coming from Russia right now to relaunch an attack on a northern front again once the donbaus action is finished. It isn't happening and Russia doesn't have food, ammo, fuel, or manpower, much less equipment to launch anything.
Yeah this is about right. the Ukrainian farmers have stolen all the Russian tanks 11 times over. victory is near. just ignore the thunder rumbling in the east.
 
No. They just enjoy painting Russians as cavemen to sell the entire "they only attacked us because of how PROSPEROUS we became under DEMOCRACY" spiel. "Putin is AFRAID his own cave people will see how PROSPEROUS we are and TOPPLE HIS REGIME with their clubs and stones, which is why he sees Ukraine is a threat. Send more money and weapons."

Couple of weeks ago they were claiming Russians saw paved roads and street lamps for the first time. Not kidding.
"They hate us for our freedom." Hmm, I remember that! How nostalgic!
 

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