Orbiter 🐊 TheGatorGamer / Christopher Brian Holloman / "Shannon Gaines" / GatorTimeYT - Ethan Ralph's former schizophrenic lapdog. Paid in pennies to defend his master online. Now emancipated and doxed by Ethan Ralph.

Exactly. I understand people's enthusiasm and support of Gator in the immediate aftermath of his departure, but the dude is still a spineless follower waiting for any 'ole scumbag to lead him down the next psychotic primrose path. He's gotten way too much of a pass for all the bullshit he did for years. Gator needs to go through a Mundane Matt-style "soy filled bitch" admission before he can be legitimately redeemed. He's tried to tip-toe the line with his past actions, giving half-hearted apologies and excuses without acknowledging that he was Ralph's bitch boy and in fact partially responsible for the Gunt being the trainwreck he is today. Sorry Gator, given your past actions, you don't get to retain your dignity.

If Gator had pushed back privately and stayed silent on Twitter instead of jumping in on Ralph's behalf on every retarded fight, maybe Ralph would have faced reality long before he spiraled this far.

Gator, you are a soy-filled bitch. And you still owe Josh a legitimate, unqualified apology.
The same reason people buy baby toys for Xander because they're shaped like kiwis and corn, to "own Ralph". People here are too invested to just shitting on Ralph specifically, to the point they're willing to root for retards and do dumb shit.
 
The same reason people buy baby toys for Xander because they're shaped like kiwis and corn, to "own Ralph". People here are too invested to just shitting on Ralph specifically, to the point they're willing to root for retards and do dumb shit.
And why is that a problem? It's funny, isn't that justification enough?
 
And why is that a problem? It's funny, isn't that justification enough?
I guess that's subjective. When I see Gator or Vickers clowning on Ralph and pandering to us, based on their previous actions I assume they have anterior motives and it makes me not want to support them.

"Buy my grandkid toys so I don't have to spend the money myse- I mean TOTALLY FELT Ralph! Do it Kiwis, the website I tried to use as my personal army and when it didn't work I insulted them and said their site is going to die! See? They're kiwi and corn shaped! That's funny! Give me your money!"

and

"Watch my terrible anime boomer podcast so I can become an eCeleb and make lots of mone- I mean FELT RALPH! I know I constantly shat on the Kiwi Farms, regularly called Null a pedo, and stuck by Ralph despite knowing everything about the Faith situation and being well aware of his downward spiral, but now that he's fired me, doxed me, and threatened to ruin my life I'm on your side!"

No, I'm not going to do any of that.
 
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The thing I don't understand about both Ralph and Gator, is they both claim they were friends. How can you claim to be friends and yet not trust a person enough to tell them your name. The only reason Gator stayed as long as he did was he was hoping for whatever bit of notoriety he could glean from Ralph. Once Ralph fell from grace Gator started not showing up as much, and the only reason he left was Ralph tossed him aside.
 
Gator is getting attacked from all sides - pissed off catboys, retard kill report fans, disgruntled kiwis. Keep in mind that nothing annoys Ralph more than good things happening to people he hates and enjoy the YOTG:
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HE'S GOING FOR MY FAMILY!
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The logs in question:
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Well that would be an interesting development:
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Ralph never was and still isn't "hard core into AF", it's just the current grift. He'd ditch Meigh and ReRollzy into the gutter and suck a black cock if it cancelled his student debt:
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Good luck Gator from all your friends and fans at the Carin' Farms:
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Rate me rainbow, but I think Gator just really is congenitally loyal. Even Null has said that the Ralph of 2018-ish was a completely different person and lots of people liked him. Most people peeled off when it became obvious the guy was determined to self-destruct. Gator wasn't willing to jump ship until Ralph shoved him overboard.

Seems to be something Ralph and Fuentes have in common: Neither of them understands that it's a really bad idea to alienate people who know how the sausage is made.
 
Rate me rainbow, but I think Gator just really is congenitally loyal. Even Null has said that the Ralph of 2018-ish was a completely different person and lots of people liked him. Most people peeled off when it became obvious the guy was determined to self-destruct. Gator wasn't willing to jump ship until Ralph shoved him overboard.

Seems to be something Ralph and Fuentes have in common: Neither of them understands that it's a really bad idea to alienate people who know how the sausage is made.
He probably saw Ralph as a friend, we all have them (IRL) and many have some pretty bad flaws.
Ralph got drunk and mad at a pill bottle being shaked, he's the fat Judas. The logs, so far and no doubt selected to be in Gator's favour doesn't really show the behaviour of an enabler but rather someone walking on egg shells when it comes to several matters. The "do the opposite" is a good example. Hell, he seemed so abused, he even asked for permission to give advice before saying that.

Now the GATOR is a FREE REPTILE.
(Ralph called his guy his best friend, someone he's only met once.)
 
I'm seeing a lot of Gatoric heresies in this thread truely revolting. And now people are saying it's only recently we've started professing love to Lord Gator. Gator was watching anime to seem non threathening to get closer to Ralph to save his soul, alas some demons are a force to be reckoned with and Gator focused on the Kiwi demon first. He swept up those antagonizing the demon for it made him stronger. GATOR WAS ALWAYS OUT THERE LOOKING OUT FOR HUMANITY AND THIS IS HOW YOU HEATHENS DISCUSS HIM!
 
He probably saw Ralph as a friend, we all have them (IRL) and many have some pretty bad flaws.
Ralph got drunk and mad at a pill bottle being shaked, he's the fat Judas. The logs, so far and no doubt selected to be in Gator's favour doesn't really show the behaviour of an enabler but rather someone walking on egg shells when it comes to several matters. The "do the opposite" is a good example. Hell, he seemed so abused, he even asked for permission to give advice before saying that.

Now the GATOR is a FREE REPTILE.
(Ralph called his guy his best friend, someone he's only met once.)
Didn't Gator say, when he was interviewed by KC, that him and Ralph never really talked much about their private life outside of the show? Most of their communication on discord was just planning the Killstream and Gator didn't share much about his life with Ralph. I don't think they were ever really friends.

I don't understand why people are trying to make excuses for Gator, he has had years to cut Ralph lose and he didn't. He's since had time to repent for being a relentless piece of shit who slings around baseless pedophile allegations and he hasn't. He's still out there being an impotent little weasle engaging in e-drama, just now for his new Master Jim. He's still the same slimy cretin he always was, he just changed sides after he was forced to.
 
Didn't Gator say, when he was interviewed by KC, that him and Ralph never really talked much about their private life outside of the show? Most of their communication on discord was just planning the Killstream and Gator didn't share much about his life with Ralph. I don't think they were ever really friends.

I don't understand why people are trying to make excuses for Gator, he has had years to cut Ralph lose and he didn't. He's since had time to repent for being a relentless piece of shit who slings around baseless pedophile allegations and he hasn't. He's still out there being an impotent little weasle engaging in e-drama, just now for his new Master Jim. He's still the same slimy cretin he always was, he just changed sides after he was forced to.
Gator is based, YOTG is inevitable. He will find himself a qty Puerto Rican blonde waifu this year.
 
I doubt Gator has much going for him as a NEET with a dead end job. But once people especially nerds get a tiny crumb of internet fame, they will do everything and anything to preserve it. Being a D list internet celebrity connected to the KILL STREAM was probably a big dopamine hit for a loser. Until Ralph just became unmanageable, unstable and at odds with his real internet anime daddy.

His twitter poasts about Ralph are mildly amusing and upset him. That should be enough, who gives a shit about this redemption stuff. Its not like we need to be his friend or something. He's really quite boring when he's not snaking Ralph.
 
His twitter poasts about Ralph are mildly amusing and upset him. That should be enough, who gives a shit about this redemption stuff.
Fair enough, but it's not like there is a shortage of things that upset Ralph.

It annoys me to see Gutless Gator thinking he's free and clear and worthy of praise when in reality he's just going where the wind blows, but admittedly that's just me getting borderline MATI, so i will take heed of your line of thinking.
 
As long as he's sorry to the errverlord Null I think we can be relatively happy for the good things that happen to him, and when he does good, also cheer him on. What he did was wrong, yes, but I think its taught him a lot and hopefully allowed him to stick up for himself now and not get stepped on and sucked in to bad codependent shit with people like ralph. I have no doubt that gator feels shame about all of it, but he doesn't want to show weakness.

To my knowledge Gator is still in his 20s right? He has a long life ahead of him to improve and hopefully figure out what he wants to do but I think its going to take time due to the kind of personality he exhibits of not being a natural leader if that makes sense.

I guess we win either way if he does spiral and do silly shit on stream/camera.
 
As long as he's sorry to the errverlord Null I think we can be relatively happy for the good things that happen to him, and when he does good, also cheer him on. What he did was wrong, yes, but I think its taught him a lot and hopefully allowed him to stick up for himself now and not get stepped on and sucked in to bad codependent shit with people like ralph. I have no doubt that gator feels shame about all of it, but he doesn't want to show weakness.

To my knowledge Gator is still in his 20s right? He has a long life ahead of him to improve and hopefully figure out what he wants to do but I think its going to take time due to the kind of personality he exhibits of not being a natural leader if that makes sense.

I guess we win either way if he does spiral and do silly shit on stream/camera.
According to Ralph, Gator is 34. And he never apologized for calling Null a pedophile almost daily for years. He's learned absolutely nothing, he just switched masters from Ralph to Metokur.
 
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