Mass shooting streamed on Twitch - Payton Gendron/jimboboiii - 4chan schizo poltard kills 10 people, names /k/ and /pol/ in his manefisto

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Who/What will get most amount of blame? (top 3)

  • 4chan

    Votes: 2,143 47.0%
  • Guns/assualt rifles/NRA

    Votes: 2,303 50.5%
  • Twitch

    Votes: 310 6.8%
  • Violent video games

    Votes: 358 7.8%
  • White people

    Votes: 2,793 61.2%
  • Toxic masculinity

    Votes: 455 10.0%
  • Trump/Republicans

    Votes: 1,715 37.6%
  • Mainstream media

    Votes: 112 2.5%
  • Crtitical Race theory

    Votes: 190 4.2%
  • A fucking leaf

    Votes: 291 6.4%
  • Kyle Rittenhouse

    Votes: 525 11.5%
  • Supreme Court

    Votes: 101 2.2%

  • Total voters
    4,561
I do not know anything about Frenschan or Armand. All I know is thatt Gendron was for a time in Plate Land and was talking to several people including Sandman. Plate Land is now gone and deleted, nuked by the jannies but before doing so they confirmed that Gendron was a participant in the server.

I personally do not believe I ever spoke to Gendron


I may sound schizo but I fear that the Feds may try to Ratfuck Sandman as a result of their fuck up, He is a good guy and does not deserve all this attention on him.
A lot of folks on 4chan are accusing Sandman of being a part of some kind of fed op. What do you personally think is the most likely scenario as far as whether or not Payton was groomed?
 
What do you personally think is the most likely scenario as far as whether or not Payton was groomed?
I will start off by saying I do not believe that Sandman was involved in anyway grooming Gendron to do anything much less a mass shooting.
What I personally think happened is that a Psycho autist zoomer copy pasted a manifesto together and killed a bunch of people because he is a retarded psycho who thinks he has coherent political beliefs.
I have heard of people on /k/ blaming Plate Land but not Sandman specifically, do you have a source?
 
I will start off by saying I do not believe that Sandman was involved in anyway grooming Gendron to do anything much less a mass shooting.
What I personally think happened is that a Psycho autist zoomer copy pasted a manifesto together and killed a bunch of people because he is a retarded psycho who thinks he has coherent political beliefs.
I have heard of people on /k/ blaming Plate Land but not Sandman specifically, do you have a source?
Not really, only thing I have any idea about is this site called frenschan which Payton was a member of.
 
I’ve seen several people claim some kind of connection between this shooter and the Texas one (I.e that they are both “fed ops”). And the police making reference to online gaming today. Any credence to that @AGPinochet
 
I’ve seen several people claim some kind of connection between this shooter and the Texas one (I.e that they are both “fed ops”). And the police making reference to online gaming today. Any credence to that @AGPinochet
The only connection between Sandman and Texas is that I believe that he lives there. I have no Idea if Ramos was also in Plate Land.
 
Nice try, Shlomo

It's happening in all White countries

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Yes, a museum with a dumbass exhibit is groundbreaking proof of replacement theory, not at all like museums are known for showcasing all kinds of stupid shit. This is clearly the rule and not the exception.
The white race is a fragile flower whose sacred petals are being plucked by the darkies and jews and only lone gunmen mowing down random people are their only salvation. Despite this, one day that final petal will fall and only by our own hubris will we all die out because we lost all the white people that could save us.

On that day, we will look to Kiwifarms.net and see the comment by Vonjagerbomber about a museum exhibit showcasing blacks wanting to immigrate and we will all collectively cry to the heavens because he was right and this was how the white genocide all started

Alternatively; stop being an idiot.
 
@AGPinochet so did Plate Land or anybody that was in the server have connections to that Entropy group that you're aware of?

Also @Akira Fudo I missed the part of the thread where Frenschan was mentioned, where's the connection to that come from?
 
so did Plate Land or anybody that was in the server have connections to that Entropy group that you're aware of?
If anyone did I cannot confirm.
However and I risk Identifying myself by sharing this there was at one point a guy espousing Order of 9 Angles stuff in a private server made up of Plate Land members but seperate from the main server. the private server was ran by the people who ran the main PL Server, I informed them and they kicked the O9A Guy. O9A is what Atomwaffen follows, they are riddled with glowniggery. I do not really know why I feel the need to bring this up but I thought I should. I do not know if the O9A guy and Gendron ever talked, they probably never did because he was kicked long before Gendron joined.
 
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Yes, a museum with a dumbass exhibit is groundbreaking proof of replacement theory, not at all like museums are known for showcasing all kinds of stupid shit. This is clearly the rule and not the exception.
The white race is a fragile flower whose sacred petals are being plucked by the darkies and jews and only lone gunmen mowing down random people are their only salvation. Despite this, one day that final petal will fall and only by our own hubris will we all die out because we lost all the white people that could save us.

On that day, we will look to Kiwifarms.net and see the comment by Vonjagerbomber about a museum exhibit showcasing blacks wanting to immigrate and we will all collectively cry to the heavens because he was right and this was how the white genocide all started

Alternatively; stop being an idiot.
Shabbat shalom, fellow goy! 😅😂🤣
 
Also @Akira Fudo I missed the part of the thread where Frenschan was mentioned, where's the connection to that come from?
Payton posted a link to the website in the discord logs and he was a poster on both the website and the discord. Rumor has it that Salvador Ramos was a part of frenschan's Telegram. Both Ramos and Gendron allegedly had convos with a mysterious Britbong named "Armand"
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Payton posted a link to the website in the discord logs and he was a poster on both the website and the discord. Rumor has it that Salvador Ramos was a part of frenschan's Telegram. Both Ramos and Gendron allegedly had convos with a mysterious Britbong named "Armand"
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What the actual fuck

That screenshot doesn't say what date Armand sent that extremely fucking eyebrow-raising message, how can we take TheDreas at his word that that was sent May 11th (3 days before even Buffalo)? And what was the context of Armand saying that? Can you also send where Gendron linked Frenschan stuff (and maybe what was linked)?
 
Is there literally any proof that this kid wasn't wanting to do this? I'm sorry but throwing the onus onto someone else when he perpetrated the act is retarded. This "Sandman" theory is all fucked up too because one, it's hardly substantiated, and two; we have a guy in here that is going to bat for him with just as little substance.
This doesn't make it a fucking FedOp, it means that /pol/ has right leaning, ex-military, ex-police types on it that also mingle with /k/; what a surprise.
 
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but apparently the shooter had an ex-fed accomplice who's being investigated for involvement with the shooting.
Schizos win again.
 
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Article says there were 6 discord users who regularly spoke to Payton. With Sandman as one of them that leaves 5 left.

We could assume this "Armand" is one of the 5 leaving 4 other users who remained in close contact

I'll hazard a guess and say Zeb, Jonah, and Stu are 3 of the other 4 left
 
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Sandman was not an accomplice, read my posts across this page and the last.
Okay, I know you can't reveal much about yourself without outing who you are; I get that.
But in order to have proper credibility, it would help to have a bit more background on who exactly you are to these people; especially Sandman.
You don't have to outwardly say who you are, but people are literally dead and as you can see the media is already homing in on him for the sake of a headline.

If you get out ahead of this, you can at least shape the narrative properly as opposed to everyone believing Sandman is some kind of deepstate spook.
 
Okay, I know you can't reveal much about yourself without outing who you are; I get that.
But in order to have proper credibility, it would help to have a bit more background on who exactly you are to these people; especially Sandman.
You don't have to outwardly say who you are, but people are literally dead and as you can see the media is already homing in on him for the sake of a headline.

If you get out ahead of this, you can at least shape the narrative properly as opposed to everyone believing Sandman is some kind of deepstate spook.
I am a random guy on the Internet, I am nobody special, I have no qualifications. My relationship with Plate Land is as follows. I am generally a /k/ browser, I was curious about the feasibility of DIY body armor, Joined Plate Land to ask questions, hit it off with some people in the server and provided the higher ups with some patent documents on some obscure Chinese armor tech and some other shit. They took a liking to me and I stuck around for general conversation and more specifically to retain access to the incredibly knowledgable people in tthe server. To Sandman specifically I am a nobody, I exchanged maybe 250 words with him throughout my entire time in the server. What I revealed about Sandman is literally all I know about him besides him mentioning two particular pistols he at one time wielded (That is a Beretta 96 in .40 S&W during his time with Border Patrol and a Browning Hi-Power loaded with some kind of +P+ AP 9mm during his time in Lebanon IIRC)
 
Payton posted a link to the website in the discord logs and he was a poster on both the website and the discord. Rumor has it that Salvador Ramos was a part of frenschan's Telegram. Both Ramos and Gendron allegedly had convos with a mysterious Britbong named "Armand"
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Why did this new armand telegram screenshot only pop up AFTER the texas shooting happened? Dreas also claimed that the Frenschat telegram group was removed on March 28, so this just doesnt add up. There is alot of fakery going on with the armand stuff and the legitimacy of those screenshots cannot be verified.
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UPDATE:
I just took another look at the matrix where the armand telegram screenshot came from, well it turns out Dreas himself has deleted the screenshot, he also renamed his matrix nickname to "Secu" which is really suspect because one of the first Armand screenshots came from someone on discord named "SecuZeus"
Is it possible that "SecuZeus/Secu/Dreas" made all this Armand larp up and fake screenshots to frame someone?
I have also found SecuZeus's discord account in Wayne Lambright's discord join log: SecuZeus#5006
Dreas/SecuZeus matrix account: @alphadreas:matrix.org
Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#bsg:midov.pl
Link to the deleted message on matrix: https://matrix.to/#/!KLfDKsIPsFONTj...?via=midov.pl&via=matrix.org&via=converser.eu
Archive of the matrix chat: https://archive.md/hfp8G
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There's something iffy with that entire group of people. Everything they've done before and after the Buffalo shooting has been so sus. What I want to know is who this "fucking leaf" is that leaked the Livestream. Armand and Zeb were talking about it on the discord after the shooting happened. There's simply no way someone could have gotten that footage without watching the stream as it happened
 
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