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[Spunt]

Slightly odd thing to focus on, but what is with washing the body?

just seems a weird thing to do me, it’s intrusive and unnecessary.

Is it a full on body wash, or just hands/face in an attempt to make them presentable in those cultures where they do have the body available for viewing?

When you die you shit yourself.

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

It really is an amazing testament to modern medicine that they can literally keep a corpse "alive" this long. Many people who are brain dead can be kept on life support indefinitely without much issue because all their organs, at least in the mechanical sense of the cardiovascular system, are generally functional (gas in, gas out//nutrients in/waste out, etc...) However, it is exceptionally rare for someone to have an active necrotic process of a major organ and still be "alive". This sorta crosses the line between medicine and the necromantic sciences. Medicine should never be abused like this. It is sick, wrong, and a complete perversion.

 

[Deadmoth]

Of course they were, they're professionals. Also 90% of that will have been form letter.

In my many years of working in hospitals they ain’t always as compassionate

 

[Manul Otocolobus]

In my many years of working in hospitals they ain’t always as compassionate

Anyone who has worked in medicine knows this well. Some providers just handle it poorly, despite their training. Some of them seem "cold" because that is how they keep their work from damaging them, by detaching, etc... It's all just coping. Some of them are true antisocials, but they are rare (and probably found in the faculty of surgery...[Give me hats surg robots!])

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

Apart from a couple of lazy typos, that letter is very thoughtful and just about all you might hope for in such horrible circumstances.

I’m a bit disgusted that Hollie has been so public with it, but I suppose an oversharing social media-mummy can’t cause an already brain dead kid any harm.

I wonder if they only ‘spoke briefly’ to Hollie because she stomped out on hearing the news of the impending ‘exercution’?

 

[Spunt]

Apart from a couple of lazy typos, that letter is very thoughtful and just about all you might hope for in such horrible circumstances.

I’m a bit disgusted that Hollie has been so public with it, but I suppose an oversharing social media-mummy can’t cause an already brain dead kid any harm.

I wonder if they only ‘spoke briefly’ to Hollie because she stomped out on heating the news of the impending ‘exercution’.

Of course they played it by the book on this occasion, they knew that letter was going to go public. NHS hospitals aren't nearly this compassionate most of the time (some of the time they're borderline sadistic) but the hospital high-ups know that this is an Optics situation. That letter was probably drafted by the Chief Executive themselves (hence the typos, nobody's going to risk their career by pointing out the big boss' mistakes).

 

[HomeOfPhobic]

wouldn’t be surprised if she livestreams the “exercution”

 

[Murder Bunny]

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It all reads pretty standard. She WILL throw a fit about the typo on the last visitation dates, but she'll just get an eye roll by mail 60 days from now.

Not a surprise, but this is the first time I've specifically seen a reference to all witnesses to the event needing to agree in advance to it taking place. Smart of them.

My family is MedFaggy enough that the assumption has been we know the procedure when we've had to do it

 

[Deadmoth]

Anyone who has worked in medicine knows this well. Some providers just handle it poorly, despite their training. Some of them seem "cold" because that is how they keep their work from damaging them, by detaching, etc... It's all just coping. Some of them are true antisocials, but they are rare (and probably found in the faculty of surgery...[Give me hats surg robots!])

100% I’ve met a fair few consultants that have learnt how to detach themselves, myself I do find it difficult to do that but I can see why they do. They are some of the best consultants I’ve come across cause of this way of working.

 

[EddyRooney]

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Point 2. 30th& 31st August. Given the situation and the timings being critical, how do they employ these monkeys ?

 

[HeinzBeanz]

In my experiences working with teenagers, I've noticed that intense displays of grief that seem disproportionate to their relationship with the deceased seem to occur at a much higher frequency among students of a lower socio-economic status.

A student dies in a car accident, and while those in his close circle of friends are somber and down cast, girls that did not have any relationship other than having a class with him will be huddled in the hallway, sobbing uncontrollably, and lining up at the guidance office door. He would have never given those girls the time of day, but they would be almost obsessed with grieving over him.

And these women on Facebook prove that this behavior extends into adulthood as well. Makes me wonder what cultural influences are at play here.

 

[🔪Cold Steel Brand Rep🔪]

Every day I come here hoping the poor kid is finally in the ground. Every damn day I'm absolutely baffled that he's still in the hospital

Sorry you're here for the long run with us, dude. There's too many terminally-online parents who like to see a heartwarming story of a "caring mother" who's "doing" "everything she can", and this dumb bint has clearly sipped the grifter koolaid, I'd say the one thing that could help this kid out of his misery would be state intervention, but they're seemingly happy as long as the bills are paid

 

[Treasure Champs]

Ouff. For a "hey we're going to withdraw support from your kid that we know you think is going to kill him" letter, you'd think someone would bother to proof-read. Wrong dates, whole sentences that don't make sense, missing words... for something so serious sent to an extremely litigious and over-reactive mom, for god's sake find someone on staff with an English GCSE.

If it were my kid, frankly I'd be very insulted that no-one took the time to make sure the plug-pull letter was all present and correct and not taking a shit on the English language. It's not that hard.

 

[everybody in Portugal]

In my many years of working in hospitals they ain’t always as compassionate

YMMV, but I've never had or seen any written communication from the NHS that wasn't dry, sober and utterly respectful. They may not echo the sentiments internally, but what they send out to the patients and families tends to be on the level.

 

[ChaChaHeels:BlackOnes]

In my many years of working in hospitals they ain’t always as compassionate

Anyone who has worked in medicine knows this well. Some providers just handle it poorly, despite their training. Some of them seem "cold" because that is how they keep their work from damaging them, by detaching, etc... It's all just coping. Some of them are true antisocials, but they are rare (and probably found in the faculty of surgery...[Give me hats surg robots!])

I’ve only known it from the other side (sickly kid parent) and maybe we’ve just been lucky but I’ve only ever come across two dickheads across various paediatric specialisms - a FY1 in A&E who was incapable of listening (wanted to fix a problem solo rather than speak to our usual team) and a plastics registrar who lived up to the stereotype of the archetypal psychopath surgeon.

I’ve heard consultants speak to medical students in a completely different tone of voice to the one they use for parents but pretty much everyone we’ve personally interacted with has been marvellous.

PICU was a terrifying but also weirdly calming experience, like being a passenger on a spaceship.

Fuck Hollie for slagging off staff who are doing their best to keep her son’s corpse warm while she’s fannying about on This Morning.

I wonder if the delaying tactics are as much about evading investigation as they are about grifting - she can’t be accused of causing her son’s death until he’s dead.

I hope she’s shitting bricks about Social Services/coroner’s post mortem but maybe she isn’t smart enough to be scared?

 

[Din Djarin]

Monday at 2pm Life Support will be Removed.

Ty for posting that including video from message here:
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Christian Concern confirms time of life support removal.

This is the best news I've heard today, as awful as that sounds. Just let the boy rest.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

I don't know if anyone here has heard of the case of Aruna Shanbaug. She was a woman from India, who, at 25 years old, was raped and strangled. She was in a vegetative state for 42 years and was kept alive by being fed through the nose before dying in 2015. Her case challenged India's euthanasia laws, and eventually India allowed its terminally ill patients to be taken off life support.

 

[RodgerDodger]

The whole thing is a grift and has been from the start. The endless delays are to just allow more time for "fundraising" that will go straight into her pocket. The GFM is so vaguely worded that it might even be legal - I'm not a lawyer so I couldn't tell you, but she's been taking her donors for a ride and now she has a small army of Useful Idiots who are so far into their sunk cost fallacy that they'll turn on anyone who, even indirectly, suggests that they have spent their money foolishly. She never gave a fuck about her kid when he was alive except as an asset to exploit for money and attention, and she's acting exactly the same way now he's dead. This situation has been like Christmas for her, she gets to be on the news and idiots are funnelling tens of thousands of pounds into her pockets.

I get the distinct impression that the press are holding back their attack dogs until his machine is finally switched off, then they'll turn on her. She'll get photographed sunning herself in Ibiza or something and the tabloids will raise yet another army of ignorant council-house ditchpigs, this time against her rather than for her. Even the BBC is changing the tone of their coverage from supportive to critical. The BBC's claims of neutrality are a complete sham, but they're clever about their bias. You have to look at what words are put in quotation marks, the pictures they choose (and whether they're flattering to the subject), their sentence construction, use of NLP techniques, that sort of thing. The last couple of articles are ... terse, let's say. It'll be open season on Hollie once this farce comes to an end, especially if there's shenanigans at the hospital.


Lack of education leads to magical thinking. He'll open his eyes at the last minute because that's what happens in Disney films and they pay more attention to those than they ever did in class.

It's a peculiarly Council Estate thing, the sentimentality stampede. I first remember it when Princess Diana died, if you weren't seen to be mourning hard enough, you were, for want of a better word, cancelled. Every so often some sappy cause will summon hordes of scarlet-taloned, bottle-blonde harpies and their skunk-addled boyfriends to whatever tragedy is in the news and this will result in a tacky "Argos Cenotaph" of Interflora bouquets and Hallmark teddy bears with cloying notes about how whatever knife-wielding Ned flipped his stolen ATV on the bypass was a "Pefrect Angle". I guess it's a chance to be part of something from people who are usually part of nothing. I don't know whether I have more contempt for the people that do this or the ringleaders in the press who encourage and enable it just to sell a few more scumrags. Actually, scratch that, I hate the journalists way more, the Chav hordes are basically zombies with no ability to think for themselves, the journos who profit from this know exactly what they're doing. When the revolution comes, they will be very surprised to find themselves ahead of both the rich and the politicians in the queue for the guillotine.

The British Press will have forgotten this kids name by Tuesday, as they move on to whatever the latest Kardasian news is.m

 

[Irrational Exuberance]

I don't know if anyone here has heard of the case of Aruna Shanbaug. She was a woman from India, who, at 25 years old, was raped and strangled. She was in a vegetative state for 42 years and was kept alive by being fed through the nose before dying in 2015. Her case challenged India's euthanasia laws, and eventually India allowed its terminally ill patients to be taken off life support.

That's...okay, and how is this relevant to the thread?

 

[Hedgehog]

There's a really interesting line in that letter,

3. The treatment withdrawal would take place in Archie's current room with minimal staffing. During the withdrawal itself we will allow immediate family to be present only. i.e., siblings and parents. This group would need to be agreed prior to the process beginning, etc

Very clear the hospital's expecting difficulties on monday.