US U.S. judge overturns California’s ban on assault weapons

U.S. judge overturns California’s ban on assault weapons​

DON THOMPSON
Fri, June 4, 2021, 9:24 PM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — A federal judge Friday overturned California’s three-decade-old ban on assault weapons, ruling that it violates the constitutional right to bear arms.
U.S. District Judge Roger Benitez of San Diego ruled that the state’s definition of illegal military-style rifles unlawfully deprives law-abiding Californians of weapons commonly allowed in most other states and by the U.S. Supreme Court.

“Under no level of heightened scrutiny can the law survive," Benitez said. He issued a permanent injunction against enforcement of the law but stayed it for 30 days to give state Attorney General Rob Bonta time to appeal.

Gov. Gavin Newsom condemned the decision, calling it “a direct threat to public safety and the lives of innocent Californians, period."

In his 94-page ruling, the judge spoke favorably of modern weapons, said they were overwhelmingly used for legal reasons.

“Like the Swiss Army knife, the popular AR-15 rifle is a perfect combination of home defense weapon and homeland defense equipment. Good for both home and battle," the judge said in his ruling's introduction.

That comparison “completely undermines the credibility of this decision and is a slap in the face to the families who’ve lost loved ones to this weapon," Newsom said in a statement. “We’re not backing down from this fight, and we’ll continue pushing for common sense gun laws that will save lives.”

Bonta called the ruling flawed and said it will be appealed.

California first restricted assault weapons in 1989, with multiple updates to the law since then.

Assault weapons as defined by the law are more dangerous than other firearms and are disproportionately used in crimes, mass shootings and against law enforcement, with more resulting casualties, the state attorney general’s office argued, and barring them “furthers the state’s important public safety interests.”

Further, a surge in sales of more than 1.16 million other types of pistols, rifles and shotguns in the last year — more than a third of them to likely first-time buyers — show that the assault weapons ban “has not prevented law-abiding citizens in the state from acquiring a range of firearms for lawful purposes, including self-defense,” the state contended in a court filing in March.
Similar assault weapon restrictions have previously been upheld by six other federal district and appeals courts, the state argued. Overturning the ban would allow not only assault rifles, but things like assault shotguns and assault pistols, state officials said.
But Benitez disagreed.

“This case is not about extraordinary weapons lying at the outer limits of Second Amendment protection. The banned ‘assault weapons’ are not bazookas, howitzers, or machine guns. Those arms are dangerous and solely useful for military purposes," his ruling said.

Despite California's ban, there currently are an estimated 185,569 assault weapons registered with the state, the judge said.

“This is an average case about average guns used in average ways for average purposes," the ruling said. “One is to be forgiven if one is persuaded by news media and others that the nation is awash with murderous AR-15 assault rifles. The facts, however, do not support this hyperbole, and facts matter."

“In California, murder by knife occurs seven times more often than murder by rifle," he added.

In a preliminary ruling in September, Benitez said California’s complicated legal definition of assault weapons can ensnare otherwise law-abiding gun owners with criminal penalties that among other things can strip them of their Second Amendment right to own firearms.

"The burden on the core Second Amendment right, if any, is minimal,” the state argued, because the weapons can still be used — just not with the modifications that turn them into assault weapons. Modifications like a shorter barrel or collapsible stock make them more concealable, state officials said, while things like a pistol grip or thumbhole grip make them more lethal by improving their accuracy as they are fired rapidly.

The lawsuit filed by the San Diego County Gun Owners Political Action Committee, California Gun Rights Foundation, Second Amendment Foundation and Firearms Policy Coalition is among several by gun advocacy groups challenging California’s firearms laws, which are among the strictest in the nation.
The lawsuit filed in August 2019 followed a series of deadly mass shootings nationwide involving military-style rifles.

It was filed on behalf of gun owners who want to use high-capacity magazines in their legal rifles or pistols, but said they can’t because doing so would turn them into illegal assault weapons under California law. Unlike military weapons, the semi-automatic rifles fire one bullet each time the trigger is pulled, and the plaintiffs say they are legal in 41 states.

The lawsuit said California is “one of only a small handful states to ban many of the most popular semiautomatic firearms in the nation because they possess one or more common characteristics, such as pistol grips and threaded barrels,” frequently but not exclusively along with detachable ammunition magazines.

The state is appealing Benitez’s 2017 ruling against the state’s nearly two-decade-old ban on the sales and purchases of magazines holding more than 10 bullets. That decision triggered a weeklong buying spree before the judge halted sales during the appeal. It was upheld in August by a three-judge appellate panel, but the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said in March that an 11-member panel will rehear the case.
The state also is appealing Benitez’s decision in April 2020 blocking a 2019 California law requiring background checks for anyone buying ammunition.
Both of those measures were championed by Newsom when he was lieutenant governor, and they were backed by voters in a 2016 ballot measure.

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There hasn't been much out of them since the 90's, and even then, their big thing wasn't to ban handguns but to throw up so many bureaucratic hurdles and paperwork frustrations that hopefully, your "average" person would just give up trying to own one, leading to a natural dying off of gun ownership as not worth the hassle. Like toddlers outgrowing diapers.

The end goal was always abolition, but they felt that surely a distaste for guns could be fostered so that after only about two generations, with only maybe 1 in 10,000 law-abiding people owning a gun, final illegality of handguns would be a matter of a line-item in some other bill.....

The raging about the NRA and gun culture only really ramped up when the laws the Brady backers championed were met with pushback from the public that ultimately stopped them at a few token measures (background checks, waiting periods, caps on number per purchase) that either were lukewarmly prosecuted and allowed to lapse due to disinterest to do so from non-activists, and their dicey legal nature meaning they were abandoned rather than allowing them to go to court and be decisively invalidated and setting precedent (as happened in Heller)


That's why they went all-in on the original AWB, they realized that too many law abiding people owned handguns and either diligently filled out the forms to keep them or fought them with organized legal resistance that all their work for control never made a dent.

So the only way to make the people do the "Right" thing were bans.... and even the most strident gun-grabbers knew you can't start with the biggest slice of the pie, so they went after hunting rifles briefly as "sniper rifles" that no person needed, only to have the entire hunting/homestead bloc shoot that down (ha!) so that's when the forever war on "assault rifles" started.
It's certainly how things have functioned in Canada, which ever more encroachment on the right to private ownership of firearms. Naturally, Trudeau has taken merciless advantage of the pandemic granting him functionally unlimited powers, and the ability to rule by fiat. For example, after the completely unsuspicious and totally not glowing events in Portapique NB, where a man had accumulated at least 1 complete replica current model RCMP cruiser, uniform, and handgun, without police ever finding that suspicious, he was able to unilaterally amend gun control, moving thousands of firearms from the "Restricted List" to the "Prohibited List", without any Parliamentary debate or action.

Remember, this is the same unilateral action that banned a couple airsoft guns, and Black Rifle coffee.

Why does the reclassification matter? There's 2 reasons - because it's no longer possible to qualify for a "Prohibited Firearm Acquisition License", under any circumstances short of being a professional gunsmith, under constant gov't scrutiny. The federal gov't has also made it more difficult to qualify for a Firearm Acquisition License generally, and being approved for the "Restricted endorsement" gets more difficult every year. The 2nd reason is that reclassification was made unilaterally, without any Parliamentary debate, or a Bill being presented.

Keep in mind, Trudeau has suspended the legislated schedule for calling Federal elections, because "voting in person is too risky, under the current pandemic conditions", which is the opening shot in a plan to move to some kind of online or computerized, remote voting process, one that will be zealously guarded and protected from any kind of accountability. He's essentially a dictator already, there's fuck all that is legislatively possible to prevent it, and I guarantee you that it's exactly what places like California and NY State would love to model from.
 
Asians seem to be much better at getting higher scores.
We have been devious little fuckers since 1904:
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They aren't ignoring them, they just know they can't up and ban handguns without the precedent of shotguns being illegal.

And they can't get rid of shotguns without the precedent of hunting rifles

And bolt-action rifles can't go until semiauto rifles go.

Which can't happen until the "just a few" scary "assault weapons" go.

They plan to take them all eventually. It's just that even they realize a unilateral handgun ban is a step too far too fast to ever survive legally.

The fact the very first step, the one that should be "easiest" due to the lowest number to take and easiest ones to demonize (scary black rifle with murder-bells and terror-whistles) is proving an impossible nut to crack drives them batty and makes them lie/fearmonger even MORE.

To the point a Federal Judge has in fact ruled that their own STATISTICS for why they want a ban don't match up with reality.....
100% this.
it'll be death by 1000 cuts just like the bans in the UK, never give them a fucking inch.
 
I don't see this getting anywhere unless it gets to the supreme Court and even then.
 
They'll push harder. America is in trouble and too much of the citizenry is restless. They need to disarm as many as possible before the supply chain shatters, the cities starve and the dollar collapses.
But they don't have the time to make this a gentle ass-fucking, not enough time to whisper sweet nothings in your ear while they get the lube and deep dick your rights away. So they'll throw you down, tie you up and make you squeal like a pig instead.

Or at least they'll try. Seems like dweeby little Sheriff Brody looking judges are the most dangerous people on the planet to gun grabbers.
 
Oh no! Think of how many children will die if gun nuts are allowed to take the fins off their pistol grips!View attachment 2235506
Strike Industries sells another version of the fin grip with a thumb rest.

There is also the grip sold by Sparrow Dynamics which turns it into more of a rifle grip.

There also is the Survivor Systems Zero Option grip which looks asthestically good and allows a person to attach an extra mag in the back.

And their assault rifle definition does not extend to rimfire so that one 22lr S&W can come with all the toys.
 
The fellow below killed 32 people with handguns. Tell me again how an assault weapons ban would have stopped this?
Anyone else remember the guy who went after that Virginia local paper with just a pump-action shotgun and got like three kills?
We have been devious little fuckers since 1904:
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Oh please, beating up on the Imperial Russian Navy is like playing "kick the autistic". Sure, you've won, but at what cost to your dignity for beating up the mentally handicapped? The Brits were at least honest about their opposition's quality and decided a mere 4 battleships would be sufficient to destroy the entire 2nd Pacific Squadron, quite possibly without receiving a single hit in return given the quality of Russian gunnery.
 
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Apparently these are the headlines being pushed by the media in California. Also I don't know if Newsom has the balls to challenge it given going after the guns will give some motivation to folks to show up to the recall booth.

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Assault weapons as defined by the law are more dangerous than other firearms and are disproportionately used in crimes, mass shootings and against law enforcement, with more resulting casualties, the state attorney general’s office argued, and barring them “furthers the state’s important public safety interests.”
No. They are disproportionately used in mass shootings, but in crimes, it's handguns. Handguns are easier to conceal. You aren't going to get shot if you see a guy running at you with a giant rifle in his jacket.
 
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Apparently these are the headlines being pushed by the media in California. Also I don't know if Newsom has the balls to challenge it given going after the guns will give some motivation to folks to show up to the recall booth.

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"California ... just saw its deadliest mass shooting..."

...executed exclusively with handguns. Gee, why would they leave that out?
 
There hasn't been much out of them since the 90's, and even then, their big thing wasn't to ban handguns but to throw up so many bureaucratic hurdles and paperwork frustrations that hopefully, your "average" person would just give up trying to own one, leading to a natural dying off of gun ownership as not worth the hassle. Like toddlers outgrowing diapers.

The end goal was always abolition, but they felt that surely a distaste for guns could be fostered so that after only about two generations, with only maybe 1 in 10,000 law-abiding people owning a gun, final illegality of handguns would be a matter of a line-item in some other bill.....It was also around this time they dropped all pretense of there being such a thing as a legal firearm or law abiding gun owner. It was one of the first cases of progressive "right side of history has been decided in advance" thinking: a modern world-leading nation (late 20th century liberals still professed love to country as opposed to "I love the world but despise my nation" en vogue today) simply had NO USE for guns in the hands of citizens, if you wanted/had one, you were failing to live up to your station as civil.

The raging about the NRA and gun culture only really ramped up when the laws the Brady backers championed were met with pushback from the public that ultimately stopped them at a few token measures (background checks, waiting periods, caps on number per purchase). And even those were only lukewarmly prosecuted and allowed to lapse over time due to disinterest to do so from non-activists. Speaking of which, their dicey legal nature meant they were frequently abandoned rather than allowing them to be passed, stand, and then go to court and be decisively invalidated thus not only failing but setting precedent for future laws (as happened in Heller)

Then, maturation of the internet effectively defanged even what they'd managed to get in place, automating the paperwork process to the point their vaunted background checks could be done at point-of-sale by the gun stores as opposed to black holed into bureaucratic typing pools reachable only by snail mail where they could be slowed or maybe even maliciously "misplaced" and thus, never granted. Their modern cries of "we need more comprehensive background checks" are just manifest frustration at this, trying to clog up a feedstock pipe with wadded tissue paper, since any new check they want has no reason to not happen at CPU-speed. Note that they most illegal of these new proposals are ones that require human eyeballs, like the NYC-proposed one that you can't buy a gun until your social media has been evaluated and you are judged to not be a threat....they don't like the fact the computer when asked to check a criminal record database keeps saying "Clean" because the guy in the MAGA hat at the counter hasn't committed any crimes (yet!) and the machine isn't doing what people could do - judge him and deny him for a million counts of PRECRIME!


That's why they went all-in on the original AWB, they realized that too many law abiding people owned handguns and either diligently filled out the forms to keep them or fought them with organized legal resistance, meaning all their work for control never made a dent.

So the only way to make the people do the "Right" thing were bans....the people had proven to be nothing more than cultists of the murderous gun who won't see reason, ever. The late 80's were the very last time gun control advocates even passively acknowledged such a thing as the "law abiding gun owner". To them, going forward, all such people were morally bankrupt, and only allowed to keep their barbaric weapons of an uncivilized time due the absolute TECHNICALLITY of the Second Amendment, which will be navigated around soon enough!

But even the most strident gun-grabbers knew you can't start with the biggest slice of the pie, so they went after hunting rifles briefly as "sniper rifles" that no person needed, only to have the entire hunting/homestead bloc shoot that down (ha!) so that's when the forever war on "assault rifles" started.
It's also pretty telling how here in CA they'll come out with a ban on some arbitrary feature like pistol grips or mag releases on rifles and act like they're not just trying to outright ban a certain rifle that has those features, but when the manufacturer of said rifles (that they were actually trying to get rid of) complies with their new law they scream "Loooop-holllllessssss!!!"

If pistol grips and mag releases were really the dangerous features they claimed, then they should be happy that gun manufacturers removed them. Instead they're mad that the rifle they wanted gone is still around. They're all but outright admitting that their feature bans are an attempt to accomplish a goal that can't stand on its own in the light of day.
 
A little necro here to update this case, because, of course, California appealed it up to the 9th Circuit.

The 9th put it on "hold" because they didn't want to rule on it when the USSC Bruen decision was imminent and may very well invalidate everyone's argument depending on how it played out.

Post-Bruen, when it turned out Judge Benitez ruled correctly? And the old standard of California arguing "muh public safety" as justification for gun grabs to a circuit court that historically favored that argument went away? CA argued that the entire case should be rendered moot and remanded back down to Judge Benitez for complete retrial. Which the 9th agreed to and kicked it back down.

Now, why would they want to do that? Send a case back to a Judge who already ruled against you? Who now has even MORE precedent to rule the same way? Since Bruen set the new standard that 90% of the bans/restrictions under current CA gun law have no historical basis or precedent , with most gun control being only attempted since the 80's at the longest, and fiercely contested the whole way?

Well, now there's a hint as to what the CA lawyers were up to, at hearings today before Judge Benitez, they argued they needed a stay of at least a YEAR to do the proper "research" to adjust their arguments, meaning they either were looking for a last-ditch arcane rule they could dig up that would "prove" the state has always strictly regulated firearms as opposed to just the last 25 years, or, were stalling for time in the hopes someone else would find such a loophole, or, at best, were just trying to delay the inevitable until an off-year as far as elections go.

Either way, Judge Benitez wasn't having any of it and told both sides they have 45 days to submit their amended briefs and he'll rule on it ASAP.

Shame on you, Cali, if you didn't have a fall-back argument should Bruen have gone against you, as it did, assuming of course, you could even create one.
 
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A little necro here to update this case, because, of course, California appealed it up to the 9th Circuit.

The 9th put it on "hold" because they didn't want to rule on it when the USSC Bruen decision was imminent and may very well invalidate everyone's argument depending on how it played out.

Post-Bruen, when it turned out Judge Benitez ruled correctly? And the old standard of California arguing "muh public safety" as justification for gun grabs to a circuit court that historically favored that argument went away? CA argued that the entire case should be rendered moot and remanded back down to Judge Benitez for complete retrial. Which the 9th agreed to and kicked it back down.

Now, why would they want to do that? Send a case back to a Judge who already ruled against you? Who now has even MORE precedent to rule the same way? Since Bruen set the new standard that 90% of the bans/restrictions under current CA gun law have no historical basis or precedent , with most gun control being only attempted since the 80's at the longest, and fiercely contested the whole way?

Well, now there's a hint as to what the CA lawyers were up to, at hearings today before Judge Benitez, they argued they needed a stay of at least a YEAR to do the proper "research" to adjust their arguments, meaning they either were looking for a last-ditch arcane rule they could dig up that would "prove" the state has always strictly regulated firearms as opposed to just the last 25 years, or, were stalling for time in the hopes someone else would find such a loophole, or, at best, were just trying to delay the inevitable until an off-year as far as elections go.

Either way, Judge Benitez wasn't having any of it and told both sides they have 45 days to submit their amended briefs and he'll rule on it ASAP.

Shame on you, Cali, if you didn't have a fall-back argument should Bruen have gone against you, as it did, assuming of course, you could even create one.
We need a lunacy tag that refers solely to the post content, so the poster doesn't get slapped with a downvote just for posting good stuff.
 
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