Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

Quinton at least has some watchable and entertaining videos in his catalog
Funny enough you can describe Quinton as a fun-house version of Chube. All the parallels take pre-princess Chube as a basis.

> Pasty, doughy, bearded guys that gets championed by lefties as a ‘positive male role model’.
> Former theatre kids that use their online body of work to get legacy media gigs. Quinton even wanted to get into acting but gave up.
> Both are absolute units.
> Both claimed to be bisexual but never acted on it. Technically Chube wins this round based on acting on girldick craving.
> Both are terminally online.
> Both have a tight online circle of friends that plug in every project, yet only met irl post-pandemic.
> Both talk in the most effeminate way in their videos, but act like brutes when with the lads.
> Both claim to be friends with Hbomb.
> Both were infatuated with Hontra. Quinton made a video even his fans think is cringy.
> Both have forced memes on their fanbases related to queer shit. Women and gals vs. Car Battery.
> Both think they can sing.
> Both them and their fanbases are delusional about their personal appearances. Q for instance thinks that he looks like fat Robert Pattinson.
> Both have inspired ‘hate fan-art’ that makes them seethe because it doesn’t portray them like super models.
> Both made Tumblr accounts to engage their fanbases way after Tumblr died.
> Both thirst trap their fanbases with selfies and horny posting.
> Both are narcissistic twats with no self-esteem or capacity to understand normal human behaviour.
> Both are acceptable targets to mock even in leftie circles.
> Both vague post about being no longer in good terms with people.
> Both are persecuted by rumours of being creepy with women. Q’s case is more about being pathetic but it has factual evidence.
> Both humblebrag about who they know in the biz, analytics and personal life.
> Both blatantly chase the YT meta game of changing title and thumbnail to get more clicks.
> Both got pieces written about what is supposed to be the pinnacle of their careers.
> Both bloat their content with stuff they clearly don’t understand based on having studied it. Chube with philosophy, Quinton with film analysis.
> Both have satirical nicknames ending in ‘be’. Chube and GarfTube.

Main differences:
> Quinton has mentioned he was very poor growing up in contrast with posh cunt here.
> Chube transed somewhat surprisingly, whereas everyone in Quinton’s thread has been predicting the trans saga for 3 years.
> Quinton gives enough info via Twitter to make a wiki on his life.
> Chube has had romantic relationships.

We have yet to see them in the same room at the same time.
 
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Still not verified on Twitter.
Taylor Lorenz also has a thread here: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/taylor-lorenz.117172/
I know there's other more relevant threads I should say this in, but is Lorenz fucking serious? Keffals blatantly and constantly breaks the TOS of Twitter, especially in the way he uses tons of alts and tries to organize targeted harassment (and is almost certainly using bots to boost likes as well), before this entire swatting controversy nobody actually cared about him as a figure in the trans community and still he's an absolutely absurd, ridiculous figure who gets these bafflingly positive write ups from mainstream media for his shitty streams. There are far more 'deserving' people for a checkmark than him.

Frankly, the shit that Keffals can get away and still be hailed as some sort of trans Jesus by mainstream publications genuinely makes me wonder if there's some sort of extremely retarded cabal for troons and this particularly retarded brand of progressivism in mainstream journalism and inside companies like Twitter that goes out of its way to protect the likes of Keffals from the most basic scrutiny or hold them accountable to the clearly stated rules of a site. Lord knows that they make sure to never mention anything about sending horrendously sourced bathtub hormones to vulnerable minors, the grooming allegations or the many, many stupid things that Keffals has said that would have gotten anybody else (re: anyone who's not a troon) cancelled to Pluto and back, nah its just a bright young woman who's dodging Kiwifarms hit squads. Its kind of interesting how other grotesque troons like Challenor and Yaniv also seemed to get an absurd amount of institutional protection until the simmering outrage at their behaviour came to a boil!

I swear to god, if I wasn't already peaked by people like Olly then Keffals would have sent me to the top of Olympus Mons.
 
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I'm bored in Heathrow so I decided to brainstorm looks Ollie could conceivably do in future videos and look appalling in:
  • Marilyn Monroe in the Seven Year Itch
  • J-Lo in her green Versace number at the 2000 Grammys
  • Some sort of lazy Marie Antoinette ripoff via Contrapoints
  • Bimini Bon Boulash's wedding dress
  • A Lady Dimistrescu "dommy mommy" moment
  • Literally anything Hunter Schafer has ever worn
Feel free to chip in with suggestions

Very well said. I was about to REEEEE about Lucy getting mentioned in the same sentence as Ollie because she's a perfect angel who can do no wrong in my eyes, but you covered it. My fav moment of hers is when she gets into a tight laced corset to undergo physiological testing, demonstrating the impact of a tight laced corset on Victorian women's ability to do anything, but allows herself a moment to enthuse about how tiny her waist is in the corset hahaha
Judy finnigan that time her tit fell out in 2005.

Yeah that corset experiment Worsley did was pretty shocking. She was fucked after going up the stairs like once. Pretty intense realising how disabled-by-design all women above farm labourers were for a good few hundred years.

Something something troon parallels

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“BENEFITS MY BRAND TO NOTO BE VERIFIED” fucking roffffffl
Oh my, Choob. He’s been gagging to be verified for years. In what POSSIBLE way does it help to Not be verified, especially when he’s constantly talking about his meetings with Very Important people, and this fart troon from kiwi drama gets verified immediately, absolute seeeeethe
Hahaha love to see it.

Long may Tubey never get verified
(there must be a petty personal reason for it at this point, he actually should be verified so it’s double hillarious that he’s not)
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Mad how he is happy to publicly associate w keffals. The wider troon brigade either believe their own bullshit about the “lies” about K’s sus noncery and drug dispensing, or are just so comfortable in thier layer of soft media coverage that they don’t care.. they should be more careful, it’s already cracking all over.

The problem with them hyping it up for ages in their own echo chambers is that they really don’t see the danger to their own retarded movement imminently moving closer with every stupid thing they say. They are like ideological 41%ing with every single action and thought
 
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Some poor sap spent hours making this '''fan''' of Abi.

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This one takes the cake. The artist was even proud enough to autograph it.

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This truly is an Emperor's New Clothes situation. I guarantee the majority of people who viewed this would have most certainly seen the dangers of this most precious of AGP smirks to have fallen into the wrong hands, but were too scared to be the first one to point it out for fear of being preceived as looking at Princess Abigail through a 'transphobe's gaze'. :christine:
 
Some poor sap spent hours making this '''fan''' of Abi.

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This one takes the cake. The artist was even proud enough to autograph it.

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This truly is an Emperor's New Clothes situation. I guarantee the majority of people who viewed this would have most certainly seen the dangers of this most precious of AGP smirks to have fallen into the wrong hands, but were too scared to be the first one to point it out for fear of being preceived as looking at Princess Abigail through a 'transphobe's gaze'. :christine:
I'll give this fan one thing:

It actually looks like Olly in every single pose. There's obviously some slightly flattering editing to make him look better (like the hips on the middle one and the reduced jaw on all of them), but that's unmistakably Olly.

At least they didn't warp him into some hot curvy woman that looks nothing like him as his other fanartists do.
 
Funny enough you can describe Quinton as a fun-house version of Chube. All the parallels take pre-princess Chube as a basis.

> Pasty, doughy, bearded guys that gets championed by lefties as a ‘positive male role model’.
> Former theatre kids that use their online body of work to get legacy media gigs. Quinton even wanted to get into acting but gave up.
> Both are absolute units.
> Both claimed to be bisexual but never acted on it. Technically Chube wins this round based on acting on girldick craving.
> Both are terminally online.
> Both have a tight online circle of friends that plug in every project, yet only met irl post-pandemic.
> Both talk in the most effeminate way in their videos, but act like brutes when with the lads.
> Both claim to be friends with Hbomb.
> Both were infatuated with Hontra. Quinton made a video even his fans think is cringy.
> Both have forced memes on their fanbases related to queer shit. Women and gals vs. Car Battery.
> Both think they can sing.
> Both them and their fanbases are delusional about their personal appearances. Q for instance thinks that he looks like fat Robert Pattinson.
> Both have inspired ‘hate fan-art’ that makes them seethe because it doesn’t portray them like super models.
> Both made Tumblr accounts to engage their fanbases way after Tumblr died.
> Both thirst trap their fanbases with selfies and horny posting.
> Both are narcissistic twats with no self-esteem or capacity to understand normal human behaviour.
> Both are acceptable targets to mock even in leftie circles.
> Both vague post about being no longer in good terms with people.
> Both are persecuted by rumours of being creepy with women. Q’s case is more about being pathetic but it has factual evidence.
> Both humblebrag about who they know in the biz, analytics and personal life.
> Both blatantly chase the YT meta game of changing title and thumbnail to get more clicks.
> Both got pieces written about what is supposed to be the pinnacle of their careers.
> Both bloat their content with stuff they clearly don’t understand based on having studied it. Chube with philosophy, Quinton with film analysis.
> Both have satirical nicknames ending in ‘be’. Chube and GarfTube.

Main differences:
> Quinton has mentioned he was very poor growing up in contrast with posh cunt here.
> Chube transed somewhat surprisingly, whereas everyone in Quinton’s thread has been predicting the trans saga for 3 years.
> Quinton gives enough info via Twitter to make a wiki on his life.
> Chube has had romantic relationships.

We have yet to see them in the same room at the same time.
Lmao I guess it’s time to crack out one of my own from spending time in the Onision thread.

Similarities between Philosophytube and Onision

  1. Only leftists because they hate conservatives. In real life, they’re probably misogynistic and racist
  2. Will do anything for attention
  3. Narcissists
  4. Take themselves way too seriously and think they’re great philosophers
  5. Market towards young people yet slip in jokes no young person should be hearing
  6. Cowards
  7. White and male and mostly straight




Differences

  1. PT only says what people want to hear. Onision doesn’t really care
  2. PT had better acting and singing skills
  3. PT has more videos and a higher production value
  4. PT markets his videos as educational
  5. PT is at greater risk of killing Contrapoints while Onision is at greater risk of abusing women and children
 
Can I be arsed to watch either of the new videos? I sometimes skip the actual episodes and just listen to the stream but this topic is one I actually have fairly significantly experience/specialise education in and it might make me MATI (even though I generally think art is just for wankers nowadays)
 
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Can I be arsed to watch either of the new videos? I sometimes skip the actual episodes and just listen to the stream but this topic is one I actually have fairly significantly experience/specialise education in and it might make me MATI (even though I generally think art is just for wankers nowadays)
If you have personal involvement with the topic then I guess you should but otherwise I doubt you'd be missing much, his videos are all filler with no actual content.
 
I watched a bunch of the live stream but not a lot jumped out. Maybe I’ll do a breakdown later. For now, he did say he went with that freak Sophie from Mars to the art museum for the Rothko bits. So he only has online tranny friends. Paris, Alice, Sophie.

He was very self conscious about the fact that this video “underperformed.” He had a litany of excuses. One being that the previous video over performed, so that’s why this one didn’t do as well. Yeah, okay. And that people were outside because it’s August and not watching online content. You can see in real time how his narc tendencies won’t allow him to grapple with setbacks or ego bruises. I think he also said it was because he didn’t say “hi, I’m Abigail Thorn” like he normally does in the beginning. Seriously, there were tons of excuses.

He talked about how he’s not directing the play, that it’s very much a production from the director. Almost everyone involved is trans. I thought it was funny because he reiterated that he had no say in casting, (the director made casting decisions) with one obvious glaring exemption - as there’s no way a competent director would willingly cast Oliver, who of course has a big part. So he clearly had SOME say in casting.

He says he thinks he looks like Margot Kidder, (from 1978’s Superman).

Oh god At 1:09:20 he does his faux humility routine when someone leaves a huge Superchat donation. He says, “that’s going to pay for a lot of manicures.” (He previously creepily pouted because of broken nails from sword fighting in the play.) Lol I recommend watching this part. He asks if this particular superchatter (who has left large donations before) is “taking care of yourself as well?” It’s so incredibly phony and put on. Classic Oliver.


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I so missed reading this thread over the past while. Can't wait for us to have a watch party when The Prince stream is released.
yes.
I haven’t bothered to watch his videos for ages now (think many of us are on the same with that one) but The Prince will indeed be a spectacular occasion.

@Tombigbee interesting that he’s getting excuses in early about the play? Maybe he thinks (as is only nature) that everyone sucks in it compared to him.

Might also be seething that there is a director anyway, whcih could explain why this took so long to actually come to fruition- I guess no theatre would agree to do it his way, his one-tran show?

Oh, and the fact that, as we later learned, he was approaching them with a vague idea for a play that WASNT EVEN WRITTEN, or had much concept apart from Me Me Me.
 
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