I get it. Straight ships are bad because they might conceivably produce a baby that your oshii would then love more than you.
for the record Connor and mouse hate the shipping shit between them as well so that's probably not a great example. When they did a panel together at AX they specifically screened out any questions that would even tread in that direction a little bit and they regularly call their viewers cringe when they try and make it a thing.
Honestly even in Niji straight ships are something the talents generally want to be kept away from. They are only ever really engaged with in a humorous manner (like the old Niji "best couple" stream), and close relationships are typically not framed as romantic. GunKan is a bit of an exception in JP in that Gundou and Kanda said they were fine with it as long as the fans are respectful. Most JP members wouldn't even mention such things, IMO. Gundou even mentioned that some "duos" kinda disappeared because the vtubers didn't want to deal with the drama.
I mean I think the bit she said there about "as long as both parties are comfortable with it" is an important distinction there that you're omitting. And she made it pretty clear she wasn't comfortable with people shipping her with the stars boys.
or hell I think people sometimes seem to forget that even Girl x Girl ships in Niji have caused some issues for the talents involved. Like Crossick, both of them have at times had to tell fans to chill out and back off a bit because they were going overboard with it and derailing the girls streams when the weren't together.
It's kind of a non-statement to me unless every talent makes a checklist of who they are or aren't comfortable with without having to rely on tells. Just say everyone in female Hololive is gay and the Stars are gay and be done with it, at this point.
Ahem...
I think I'd like to add that for gays and lesbians basically all ships are off limits. If any girls came out as 100% completely seriously actually lesbian, then I think that makes any joke flirting with girls awkward also. Basically, anything that could be seen as serious should generally not be joked about. (and also people shouldn't be gay because that's wrong)
I mean when put in the context of todays stream it's a bit less of a non statement because people have a short list right htere of what she's not comfortable with. It stops being a non-statement when you can point to a immediate example of what she's talking about not doing.
I think what made it bad for Crossick was that they're actually a couple and had begun to feel like fans stopped appreciating them as individual creators but two halves of a whole.
Call me a Boomer, but from the moment I started watching Vtubers, I always disliked the shipping culture. I understand Vtubers are at their core are fictional characters being played by Voice Actors. But the line between persona and the real person can be thin going from person to person, especially with English Vtubers where the indie scene is huge and personas have less emphasis put on them, it starts to seem more to me like you're shipping two real people and not personas.
I worry people can mistake silence or bemusement as approval, I mean, Calli has always been somewhat uncomfortable with her ship with Kiara, yet you can't go a few pages on art sites or on Twitter without seeing ship art between the two.
That's also fair, I feel like the majority of people are uncomfortable with straight ships because they seem serious, and shipping two people that could realistically, actually be fucking IRL is weird for most people because it walks the fine line between shipping for fun and speculating on other people's relationships. So if Kronii were to come out as gay, I feel like the number of people shipping her and Mumei would go down significantly.
All this for a fucking Lesbian roflmaooooo.
I’m so relieved to have the site back lol. While I’m more of a lefty than most of the people here, the Reddit hugbox and a good portion of Twitter is incredibly embarrassing, and on the other end, /vt/ is populated with deranged sociopaths. I actually kinda like you guys.
Here's the real reason why Mori supports homo collabs so much.
Surprised the Chinese government haven't started their own Vtuber agency, it absolutely would not fucking surprise me.
