Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[batteredpancakes]

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[Day of the Cope]

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Spoiler: What this man looks like

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Spoiler: What the moobs look like

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Spoiler: What the "vagina" looks like

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Literally the first thing that came to my mind:

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"Guys just want a hole to put their penis into."
Tacit admission that it's all just about sex, for them.

 

[Naerys]

There is literally not one thing a neovagina can do better than a real vagina. Prove me wrong.

They grow hair better! Ba dum tst
I’ll see myself out

But seriously, the muscles are pretty important. They don’t just stretch, they can flex. There’s no grip in an amhole
If one should sneeze or cough while a dick is inside their (real) vagina the dick goes shooting out. Wonder if that happens with a rot pocket. Genuinely curious since I suppose the male pelvic floor muscles also clench when coughing or sneezing, but I’m willing to bet their overall structure and positioning is different enough that it wouldn’t eject anything that was brave and/or desperate enough to be inside it.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

Thanks, I hate it.


WHAT THE FUCK IS THISSSSS?!

Spoiler: WTF

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Anyways, it’s funny seeing troons arguing about whether cis vagina or troon “vagina” is better. There is literally not one thing a neovagina can do better than a real vagina. Prove me wrong.

Dick head. Not you, the thing. You can see where the dick head has been cut into two or three places and sewed down as an ersatz clit. Presumably by someone who’s never seen a real clit before, as it looks nothing like one.

I have dick pain just thinking about it, and I don’t even have a dick.

 

[Got Milk!]

At least the skin source will match the smell now.

I believe some of the cold era model "vaginas" were partially made from a piece of colon and literally smelled like shit on a regular basis. So it's a new take on a previous very sane and normal idea.

It's amazing to me that someone who is still a minor can carve themselves up and give themselves permanent bone problems but also be denied a fucking tattoo.
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"I'm 17 and my fake cock has finally healed. Time to get it tattooed so it doesn't look like uncooked biscuits from a can."
Dr: "I can't tattoo a minor. Are you insane?!?! So anyways... How's that cock holding up champ?

Thanks, I hate it.


WHAT THE FUCK IS THISSSSS?!

Spoiler: WTF

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"The squid rises from it's labyrinth to wrap itself around the unsuspecting (and probably drunk) eel"

 

[Owner of a Lonely Hole]

They grow hair better! Ba dum tst
I’ll see myself out

But seriously, the muscles are pretty important. They don’t just stretch, they can flex. There’s no grip in an amhole
If one should sneeze or cough while a dick is inside their (real) vagina the dick goes shooting out. Wonder if that happens with a rot pocket. Genuinely curious since I suppose the male pelvic floor muscles also clench when coughing or sneezing, but I’m willing to bet their overall structure and positioning is different enough that it wouldn’t eject anything that was brave and/or desperate enough to be inside it.

There has been at least one gross tweet or reddit post where an MtF described shooting a dilator out when they sneezed. Proof of their superior pussy death grip, apparently.

 

[Fapcop]

For your viewing pleasure…

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Nothing to see here folks! Just a little bittle clitoris popping in and out!

 

[MalachiteMask]

A UTI when you’re young is nasty but fixable. UTIs in older people kill. This structure isn’t going to get better. There is no more revision work that can be done. There’s a tube of scar tissue that’s narrow and it wants to heal. She is never going to be able to pee normally unless she takes the phallo off. She is going to end up on antibiotics for life, getting worse and worse infections until one backs up into a kidney and makes her very, very Ill. By that point she will be brewing multi drug resistant bacteria like a boss.
Nobody seems to tell these girls that you cannot just build a Willy and plumb it in. A urethra is a specialised tissue, and the female one is short. Making a urethra is not easy. As the body tries to heal an amhole the body tries to heal a fake urethra. It should be there.
UTIs and fistulas were something I hadn’t even thought of before I saw this thread but it’s striking how many FTMs have them. Some of the x Ray shots of the fistulas are terrible.

Mild power level, I guess?
I had a friend - early 30s, unexceptional health-wise - get a UTI that turned into a kidney infection that landed her in the hospital, smooching distance from going completely septic. She went from 'not feeling great' to 'trying valiantly to die' inside a week. Running around with a constant UTI seems like a really good way to test your personal theories about the afterlife.

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Mary, Jesus and Joseph. It's supposed to be pink inside. Pink. That last picture looks like it was taken post-mortum.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Mild power level, I guess?
I had a friend - early 30s, unexceptional health-wise - get a UTI that turned into a kidney infection that landed her in the hospital, smooching distance from going completely septic. She went from 'not feeling great' to 'trying valiantly to die' inside a week. Running around with a constant UTI seems like a really good way to test your personal theories about the afterlife.


Mary, Jesus and Joseph. It's supposed to be pink inside. Pink. That last picture looks like it was taken post-mortum.

I guarantee soon there will be loons trying to get it tattooed pink either before or after insertion.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

This is a difficult one I think. Hysterectomy for no reason isnt safe, per se but like you say the risks are known. A woman being given a full hysterectomy can be counselled in what it will do to her (immediate menopause if ovaries are removed, increased risk of dementia, risks of prolapse etc, there’s a lot of stuff.) the gender surgeries are Wild West. The hormones are as well, we have some idea how bad blockers and cross sex hormones (it’s not HRT, there’s no replacement of the norm) but a lot of it we are living the experiment. Then there’s the issue of if a minor CAN consent or how much peoples ability to consent is limited by mental illness or retardation. I have input to informed consent forms as part of what I do and the language is always very specific, and age / capacity specific as well. Child informed ASSENT is given and a parental consent. If you work on those who are adults and have limited capacity (like Alzheimer’s patients) they need to verbally assent and a carer and guardian has to consent. I’d be interested to see what the ICFs for these surgeries look like amd how they will get challenged in court. They obviously want it as a get out of jail free card.
As to whether it should be allowed. Hmm. People have control over their own bodies, for sure, but the idea of a surgeon mutilating someone like this is still find immoral somehow. It’s a contradiction but maybe you should be allowed to get it but not do it iyswim?

I thought that too, maybe it’s just the angle she has it flipping out at. The chin and her grin is so female it’s jarring

It shouldn't be allowed because it's not medically necessary nor defensible. The medical profession should guard not only the vulnerable patients but its own reputation, the morals and reputations of physicians, and the public trust in medical science. Leave the "elective extreme body mods" to Spike down at the piercing parlor behind the BDSM bar.

I wish FtMs considered options like prosthetic penises if they really want a fake penis so badly. It’s so much cheaper and looks so much more realistic, and it isn’t going to cause any pain or life-threatening complications.

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Only fucking $529! And the fucking thing can be used to “Stand To Pee,” it can be used for sex, it can be taken off and washed, so why go for surgery when you can buy something like this??

FtMs already pass so much better than their counterpart and they have so many safer options rather than going for surgery to get a fake penis, so why do they fucking do it? What’s so special about having a ghostly white numb penis that brings all sort of medical complications? They don’t look good, they don’t work 99% of the time, they can’t be used for sex, surgery is unnecessary and expensive as all hell. I don’t get it man.

The self-mutilation is the point. They fetishize the weird, excessive scarring from their teet yeets, the pain and chronic illness- it's extreme toxic femininity. In the enby thread there's talk of a special enby breast reduction that leaves you with both the ugly scars AND enough mammary tissue to keep binding.

Mild power level, I guess?
I had a friend - early 30s, unexceptional health-wise - get a UTI that turned into a kidney infection that landed her in the hospital, smooching distance from going completely septic. She went from 'not feeling great' to 'trying valiantly to die' inside a week. Running around with a constant UTI seems like a really good way to test your personal theories about the afterlife.


Mary, Jesus and Joseph. It's supposed to be pink inside. Pink. That last picture looks like it was taken post-mortum.

A few years ago a wildly popular liberal Christian writer lady died essentially from a UTI compounded by antibiotic reaction at age 37, leaving behind two preschoolers. A wise man once told me "don't fuck around with an end organ." Even the most young and vital only has so much reserves.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

This is a difficult one I think. Hysterectomy for no reason isnt safe, per se but like you say the risks are known. A woman being given a full hysterectomy can be counselled in what it will do to her (immediate menopause if ovaries are removed, increased risk of dementia, risks of prolapse etc, there’s a lot of stuff.) the gender surgeries are Wild West. The hormones are as well, we have some idea how bad blockers and cross sex hormones (it’s not HRT, there’s no replacement of the norm) but a lot of it we are living the experiment. Then there’s the issue of if a minor CAN consent or how much peoples ability to consent is limited by mental illness or retardation. I have input to informed consent forms as part of what I do and the language is always very specific, and age / capacity specific as well. Child informed ASSENT is given and a parental consent. If you work on those who are adults and have limited capacity (like Alzheimer’s patients) they need to verbally assent and a carer and guardian has to consent. I’d be interested to see what the ICFs for these surgeries look like amd how they will get challenged in court. They obviously want it as a get out of jail free card.
As to whether it should be allowed. Hmm. People have control over their own bodies, for sure, but the idea of a surgeon mutilating someone like this is still find immoral somehow. It’s a contradiction but maybe you should be allowed to get it but not do it iyswim?

I thought that too, maybe it’s just the angle she has it flipping out at. The chin and her grin is so female it’s jarring

Let's be serious. You know tifs turn their brains off when being told the risks of hysterectomy and all they hear is "GENDERFEELS GENDERFEELS GENDERFEELS" so regardless of doctors knowing what the expected results are, it's a bit of a moot point.

 

[Piss Bear]

Let's be serious. You know tifs turn their brains off when being told the risks of hysterectomy and all they hear is "GENDERFEELS GENDERFEELS GENDERFEELS" so regardless of doctors knowing what the expected results are, it's a bit of a moot point.

The stuff the doctor is saying is TRIGGERING and gives them DYSPHORIA so they don’t have to pay attention to it. The evil doctor talked about their real ANATOMY for fucks sake! Even had the audacity to mention their clitoris and vagina instead of calling it a dick and bonus hole…

 

[lolcow yoghurt]

I like reading this thread while dilating my brand new pussy. My necrotic neopussy's smell goes well with those images, a true trans experience.

 

[Screamer]

I like reading this thread while dilating my brand new pussy. My necrotic neopussy's smell goes well with those images, a true trans experience.

Cute vulva.

 

[NOT THE BEEEEES!]

don't hate. a lot of cis phalli are crooked

I think if I saw this one before I’d been exposed to the true depths of horror that SRS can produce, I’d have thought it ridiculous, fake, and nothing like a real penis. But now that I’ve seen exactly how bad the results can be, my feelings are “not bad. could definitely be worse.”

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

The stuff the doctor is saying is TRIGGERING and gives them DYSPHORIA so they don’t have to pay attention to it. The evil doctor talked about their real ANATOMY for fucks sake! Even had the audacity to mention their clitoris and vagina instead of calling it a dick and bonus hole…

In all seriousness, the grooming process conditions these people to feel panicked and distraught at the very thought or mention of their normal anatomy, which is a great way to make them unable to truly process and consent to what's going to be done to them.

 

[Charlie Delicious]

Those fucking Reddit comments though;

Ah yes of course, just a hole...

More proof that mtf are massive incels

 

[Otterly]

There is literally not one thing a neovagina can do better than a real vagina. Prove me wrong

It can probably kill you via sepsis better.

In the enby thread there's talk of a special enby breast reduction that leaves you with both the ugly scars AND enough mammary tissue to keep binding.

I am genuinely lost for words. That’s some psychopathology. That’s not wanting to be a male it’s wanting to constantly punish your female body. How utterly depressing.

 

[Bush King]

I am genuinely lost for words. That’s some psychopathology. That’s not wanting to be a male it’s wanting to constantly punish your female body. How utterly depressing.

Seeing as a huge amount are sexual assault victims or otherwise abused in early childhood, it's probably a subconscious attempt to punish themselves (for what they unconsciously view as a personal fault) and to be perceived by other potential abusers as not a worthwhile target.

 

[batteredpancakes]

That TiM with the black neovagina has landed himself back in hospital. u/Cut3LittleBunny

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Sounds like he's fucked.