So, Kiwis, what do we think? I thought we wouldn’t have to worry about this, or not those of us being able to read, at least. Is this more bullshit like the Indian quack or are we really going to have to see this in our lifetimes with the possibility of success? What about the endless complications, doc? I’ve been keeping up with the thread somewhat but is this guy actually certified and renowned or is this something else that’ll be trashed? Makes my stomach churn.
What really freaks me out is the fact that none of these lunatics seems to be putting the health of a potential child at the forefront. Pregnancy and childbirth isn’t a fetish, it’s the creation of a new human being. The vulnerability of a fetus/developing baby to harm in pregnancy is already enough in natal women that we do a whole bunch of checks, recommend very few medications be taken, care to be taken that diet, exercise and rest are good enough to ensure correct development of the baby etc.
Now we’re supposed to toss all that aside and just try to get men to have babies via donated organs cos it turns the men on? What kind of fetish-addled maniacs would merrily risk maiming or killing unborn children just so men can get off?
Troons, every fucking time. Troons and the odd nutcase medic with no sense of ethics and dollar signs in his eyes.
Most statistics I see tend to be significantly higher than that unfortunately. Gotta use recent statistics because it changes so quickly. View attachment 3681755 Link | Archive
“Slough is essentially the by-product of the inflammatory phase of wound healing comprising of fibrin, leucocytes, dead and living cells, microorganisms and proteinaceous material. The appearance of slough is typically a pale yellow, viscous fibrinous tissue and can range from yellow to tan, usually, but not always, covering the entire wound bed.”
d00leys has dropped a really interesting comment talking about her love life. Link | Archive
So her boyfriend has already dated another TiF before. I guess he might be a fetishist. Or obsessed for woke points.
Remember, her BF is this dude:
Had the trans movement not gone mainstream, all posts from this thread would be in the Body Modification Community thread instead. Genital modification/mutilation is a varied fetish, yet every strain of it that is not trans procedures flies under the radar. However, it appears that what is considered a ‘trans procedure’ is expanding. A while ago, it caused quite a stir when it came out that the WPATH covered eunuch procedures in its draft of the SOC-8 and referred to the Eunuch Archive for it. Finally, male-to-eunuch individuals are getting the attention they deserve.
Previously, genital modification/mutilation procedures would be much too deviant for licensed professionals and overground clinics to offer, but these days, it is possible to sell these as trans procedures instead. It is truly an untapped goldmine, as fetish for castration (removal of testicles), penectomy (removal of penis), and emasculation (removal of both testicles and penis) is more common than it might seem. On Reddit alone, there are multiple subreddits dedicated to the topic: r/emptysacks, r/penectomy, r/Castrations, r/eunuchs, r/nullo, r/CockBanding, and r/stirringcastration.
Similarly, it has already been discussed in this thread how males and females desiring to become a real-life futanari undergo ‘nonbinary surgeries’ such as phallus-preserving vaginoplasty and vagina-preserving phalloplasty and share their stunning results on r/salmacian. It is hilarious to watch how all these procedures are getting marketed under the ‘nonbinary’ and ‘asexual’ brands. It could have gone the other way around, with ‘sex reassignment surgeries’ being considered body modification procedures on par with splitting one’s penis as done during penile subincision or meatotomy, but it did not.
There is a subreddit dedicated to clitoral enlargement, primarily with androgens, called r/GrowYourClit. For whatever reason, transmen and enbies started a separate subreddit dedicated to the same topic, called r/GrowYourTDick. I find this very funny. I suppose spending time with cissies doing the exact same thing makes them uncomfy.
No matter. Let’s see how little men over at r/FreedTheNips are doing.
I am genuinely lost for words. That’s some psychopathology. That’s not wanting to be a male it’s wanting to constantly punish your female body. How utterly depressing.
These women desire breast reduction rather than mastectomy because they are female crossdresses. They want to switch between ‘girlmode’ and ‘boymode’, and small breasts are most favourable for this. Small breasts will fill out women’s clothing and can be bound without much difficulty to fit men’s clothing. Flattening large breasts to fit men’s garments may be impossible or traumatic. Meanwhile, women’s garments may need to be retailored or worn with a stuffed bra to fit a flat-chested woman — or a man, for that matter.
On that note, at least one mod of r/Reduction is an enby.
d00leys has dropped a really interesting comment talking about her love life. View attachment 3682467View attachment 3682466 Link | Archive
So her boyfriend has already dated another TiF before. I guess he might be a fetishist. Or obsessed for woke points.
Remember, her BF is this dude:
How old is Dooleys? A decent age gap and a guy being oh-so-accepting and supportive (for now) is throwing up red flags for me. The kind of guy who then goes “I supported you through all of this, you can’t leave me/refuse to do the thing/like the thing I don’t etc”. The kind of fetishist pervert that collects vulnerable and broken youngsters by being the parent they never had, then guilting them into believing they owe the pervert everything.
Also, lol at the “my fake dick gives us so many more sexual possibilities”. Like what? You no longer have a vagina he can fuck, and you can’t do anything with your mostly numb and permanently floppy rotdog - what new possibilities does that give? “Less” is the word you’re looking for, “less possibilities”.
Post-modernist language is fucked, man. I think we’ve transitioned out of lying and into insanity.
How old is Dooleys? A decent age gap and a guy being oh-so-accepting and supportive (for now) is throwing up red flags for me. The kind of guy who then goes “I supported you through all of this, you can’t leave me/refuse to do the thing/like the thing I don’t etc”. The kind of fetishist pervert that collects vulnerable and broken youngsters by being the parent they never had, then guilting them into believing they owe the pervert everything.
Also, lol at the “my fake dick gives us so many more sexual possibilities”. Like what? You no longer have a vagina he can fuck, and you can’t do anything with your mostly numb and permanently floppy rotdog - what new possibilities does that give? “Less” is the word you’re looking for, “less possibilities”.
Post-modernist language is fucked, man. I think we’ve transitioned out of lying and into insanity.
I'm not sure but she is a working teacher so I'm guessing she's around 23-29ish right now.
Yeah It threw up red flags for me as well. He seems quite an outgoing successful guy with many friends going by his social media so it's weird he's dating a much younger insecure TiF instead of another gay dude. He wouldn't have any issues finding anyone.
Had the trans movement not gone mainstream, all posts from this thread would be in the Body Modification Community thread instead. Genital modification/mutilation is a varied fetish, yet every strain of it that is not trans procedures flies under the radar. However, it appears that what is considered a ‘trans procedure’ is expanding. A while ago, it caused quite a stir when it came out that the WPATH covered eunuch procedures in its draft of the SOC-8 and referred to the Eunuch Archive for it. Finally, male-to-eunuch individuals are getting the attention they deserve.
Previously, genital modification/mutilation procedures would be much too deviant for licensed professionals and overground clinics to offer, but these days, it is possible to sell these as trans procedures instead. It is truly an untapped goldmine, as fetish for castration (removal of testicles), penectomy (removal of penis), and emasculation (removal of both testicles and penis) is more common than it might seem. On Reddit alone, there are multiple subreddits dedicated to the topic: r/emptysacks, r/penectomy, r/Castrations, r/eunuchs, r/nullo, r/CockBanding, and r/stirringcastration.
Similarly, it has already been discussed in this thread how males and females desiring to become a real-life futanari undergo ‘nonbinary surgeries’ such as phallus-preserving vaginoplasty and vagina-preserving phalloplasty and share their stunning results on r/salmacian. It is hilarious to watch how all these procedures are getting marketed under the ‘nonbinary’ and ‘asexual’ brands. It could have gone the other way around, with ‘sex reassignment surgeries’ being considered body modification procedures on par with splitting one’s penis as done during penile subincision or meatotomy, but it did not.
There is a subreddit dedicated to clitoral enlargement, primarily with androgens, called r/GrowYourClit. For whatever reason, transmen and enbies started a separate subreddit dedicated to the same topic, called r/GrowYourTDick. I find this very funny. I suppose spending time with cissies doing the exact same thing makes them uncomfy.
These women desire breast reduction rather than mastectomy because they are female crossdresses. They want to switch between ‘girlmode’ and ‘boymode’, and small breasts are most favourable for this. Small breasts will fill out women’s clothing and can be bound without much difficulty to fit men’s clothing. Flattening large breasts to fit men’s garments may be impossible or traumatic. Meanwhile, women’s garments may need to be retailored or worn with a stuffed bra to fit a flat-chested woman — or a man, for that matter.
agree with all of this. I've followed the heavy body-mod scene for a very long time and the amount of time, caution and care that went into things like meatotomy, subincision, splitting were leaps and bounds beyond what the trans-specific surgeons are doing.
probably because it was underground surgery with no politics attached, those people weren't identitarians about it at all and usually kept it fairly hidden.
What ghoul-handed person took that picture? What the fuck is that on shelf/fridge above her left shoulder? When did they last clean the vents on that AC? Wtf are all those extra scars on her abdomen? This is one loaded photo.
Edit: Lmao. Looked them up on Reddit and it is wonderful show. Leaving SS as attachments because formatting an edit on mobile is not as straight forward as posting.
What ghoul-handed person took that picture? What the fuck is that on shelf/fridge above her left shoulder? When did they last clean the vents on that AC? Wtf are all those extra scars on her abdomen? This is one loaded photo.
Edit: Lmao. Looked them up on Reddit and it is wonderful show. Leaving SS as attachments because formatting an edit on mobile is not as straight forward as posting.
So, Kiwis, what do we think? I thought we wouldn’t have to worry about this, or not those of us being able to read, at least. Is this more bullshit like the Indian quack or are we really going to have to see this in our lifetimes with the possibility of success? What about the endless complications, doc? I’ve been keeping up with the thread somewhat but is this guy actually certified and renowned or is this something else that’ll be trashed? Makes my stomach churn.
What really freaks me out is the fact that none of these lunatics seems to be putting the health of a potential child at the forefront. Pregnancy and childbirth isn’t a fetish, it’s the creation of a new human being. The vulnerability of a fetus/developing baby to harm in pregnancy is already enough in natal women that we do a whole bunch of checks, recommend very few medications be taken, care to be taken that diet, exercise and rest are good enough to ensure correct development of the baby etc.
Now we’re supposed to toss all that aside and just try to get men to have babies via donated organs cos it turns the men on? What kind of fetish-addled maniacs would merrily risk maiming or killing unborn children just so men can get off?
Troons, every fucking time. Troons and the odd nutcase medic with no sense of ethics and dollar signs in his eyes.
Pew research center? Are we talking “Pew pew” here, or what? Thought we’d seen the back of that shit idea.
That's what greatly confuses me as well. Unless I'm reading the article horribly wrong, it was my understanding that the doctor performed genital transplants on patients of the same sex, and not opposites. The one between the males were already closely related, and the uterus transplant for women was well ... for a natal woman. There's somebody in this thread who made a huge, long fucking laundry list of why it wouldn't work but, I'm failing to understand why they want to push so hard for it. From what I can tell, I think they are just planning it and it is not in motion (not that it makes it any better) but, seriously? Specializing in urology doesn't mean you specialize in hormone regulation, the connection of nerves and or ... making magic happen, I suppose.
Okay, you put the penis on the woman. Now what? Isn't it gonna be useless still or fall off, as she doesn't have the muscles necessary to make it do shit, nor the amount of blood to keep it erect? How are you going to trick her body into making 'sperm'? Wouldn't the XX chromosomes within her even nullify that ability? Isn't that hard-wired in? How will her body know to get an erection anyways? As for the dudes, okay, a uterus implant. Where will it go, how will you hold it up, how will you get blood to flow through it, how will it develop a placenta, how will the baby stay in place, how will it have room to grow, how will the male body get signals from the brain to regulate hormones and how the FUCK do you plan to get all of those organs in there? How? And wanting pre-immuno suppressed individuals for this project or whatever; immuno-suppresants literally kill offspring or the viability of pregnancy. Plus the study not too long ago discussing how blood from recently pregnant or pregnant women are toxic to men. I really don't know if I'm convincing myself otherwise; that perhaps I am in doubt about all of this shit, or if these people - Serbian doctor and Indian doctor, if they're the real crazies. Is there some part of science and biology that I am failing to understand? Because these people sure do make it seem like we can make this kinda shit happen now, in the current day, and not maybe (if it even happens) 100 years from now. There's so much we don't understand. Another callback to the rat study, the males fucking died during it, grew no young in their stolen wombs, and had to be quite literally stitched to a pregnant female rat for anything to occur - which still resulted in mass deaths and deformities. Maybe someone in here is smarter than me and can explain it better, but I think and hope the questions I have raised are reasonable. Seriously, I'm starting to think I'm in denial or just stupid myself. Can't decide which one.
It's interesting because shouldn't we have learned by now this kinda stuff isn't good? Corsets, food binding, longnecks (don't know their actual name--the ones with the rings)... aren't these things the same lot would deem "products of the patriarchy and oppressive"? Oh wait, it's troon logic. 'Cause they're men. So it's OK for them to oppress their own female bodies. edit: adding stuff. Or maybe they don't even believe in the patriarchy because transes are the biggest victims ever but tifs are literally men so how can they possibly be oppressors... or am I confusing trans with feminists? Honestly I am so confused.
Resident corset sperg here. Corsets have been maligned badly throughout the years. Their function has always been to allow the female body to 1) support the breasts 2) allow the weight of outer clothing to be distributed properly 3) provide a guide to shape the torso into the day's fashionable style. Only outliers have ever done extreme corsetry. Those neat black and white photos with the ladies in corsets and teeny tiny waists were photoshopped. Look them up. It's crazy what they used to do. Some of the most comfortable clothing I own are corsets and I would take a well-fitted corset ANY day over a modern bra. It's actually the patriarchy that decided to decree that corsets = bad. There's a whole rabbit hole to go down that I won't waste everyone's time with.
agree with all of this. I've followed the heavy body-mod scene for a very long time and the amount of time, caution and care that went into things like meatotomy, subincision, splitting were leaps and bounds beyond what the trans-specific surgeons are doing.
probably because it was underground surgery with no politics attached, those people weren't identitarians about it at all and usually kept it fairly hidden.
I was there for BMEZine. The heavy modifications were done with such precision and care it was incredible. The one that always got me were the deep clavicle piercings that went UNDER the collar bone. I think I only ever saw two of them performed. Utterly amazing the research they put into them. And having seen many a split penis and meatotomy almost prepared me for this thread. Almost.
