Trashfire YE24 Megathread - Kanye West (Ye) has announced his bid for the 2024 presidential election. In his infinite wisdom he has tapped Milo as his campaign manager. Nick has tagged along in order to desperately attempt to cling to relevance .

Many comments say, "why can't we talk about Jewish power" or something along these lines. I bet these people are primary voters. The general election voters will say, "You're making us look bad. You're trying to sabotage Trump. You must be a Democrat because you're the real racist." This is the hard brick wall that hits everyone on the far-right. This has been the paradigm since the 1964 Goldwater defeat and it's the reason the GOP was forced to use dog whistle politics.

On the one hand, it's good that she is normalizing conservative views. On the other hand, she is confident that these ideas will be rejected by the masses.


It's not nepotism. Ashkenazi have a higher than avg IQ than the average White person. They tend to live in major cities so they're more likely to work in major corporations or key industries. Their culture or DNA values education: the overbearing Jewish mother is like the Asian tiger parent. Even Sargon of Akkad realized that the same people who deny systemic racism and say race realism explains the differences in outcome between Whites and Blacks then turn around and refuse the same explanation for Ashkenazi vs White.

You're correct that simply naming 'em isn't enough. These people need to advocate actual policy. Expel the Jew? Affirmative Action to limit them to 2% representation? Otherwise they'll be framed as hateful sinners and dismissed. But these people want to maintain plausible deniability against being antisemitic so they're only willing to same slight remarks rather than advocate concrete policy positions.
1: Your “concrete policy positions” are never going to go anywhere. And they shouldn’t.

2: You have a point in there. You and I are “Jews” to black people. If I want to look at black people and tell them they need to get a job instead of dealing drugs, and that will fix their problems, then I can’t turn around and say a Jewish conspiracy is what’s really preventing my personal success.

3: The real problems western civilization are facing are better understood as China trying to eclipse western civ than anything else. They’re currently revenging the opium trade by flooding us with fentanyl, and they’re funding the left, re: how many Democrats have Chinese spies as personal advisors, why do we let Chinese university students steal our technology, etc
 
People were talking about Tim muting Nick's mic. I re-watched the part right before they left and it looks like he did mute him, but I can't be sure. I understand people shitting on Kanye for storming out, but I'm not clear on why exactly he stormed out. Is it because he felt it was another set up he clearly stated he will not participate in, or because Tim didn't let Nick finish even a single thought. If they left because they were getting muted, I don't blame them at all, more power to them imo. If they left because they were being interrupted, I'd prefer they gave it a little more time before walking out. If they stayed longer and Tim kept being as pathetic it would only made Tim look dumber and dig his hole deeper.

Tim could learn much from Null's masterful interview with Tommy Tooter. He calls his format a "conversation" not an interview. Fine Tim. Let me see you have this kind of a "conversation" IRL with your (hypothetical) wife for example, and see how well it goes. In such a situation her walking out on you would be most merciful thing imaginable, borderline divine intervention designed to humble you. It is much more likely you'd be the one kicked to the curb, retreating humiliated with your tail between your legs.

Also it's funny Kanye said he stopped growing when he became famous at 24. I wonder if lil Nick, being 24 years old himself thought about this coincidence. It's still not too late for everything to go even downhillier for Nick. I craft words like a pro.
 
With everything going on I have to wonder if the narrative spinners aren't stretching the legs of advanced containment techniques. It didn't take them long to adapt radio and television to containment, but when the internet was becoming mainstream in the 2010s they were caught off guard. I'm sure they were working on it, but Trump happened before they were ready, so they turned everyone crazy and locked shit down hard where they couldn't plug the leaks. They probably know this is an untenable situation they've backed themselves in to. Everybody knows all these platforms are a sham. They want everyone to go back to sleep unaware how manipulated their worldview is, trusting in what they are meant to see, and not thinking about what they aren't.

If this is happening now, Elon Musk will restore trust in the platform, let everyone back on, but deploy now ready containment strategies designed to put people back in unconscious ignorance like when they thought fox news was right wing rather than deliberately following the left around like an annoying chihuahua. The right will pretend its winning while Twitter becomes the WeChat of america, owning the libs epic style as facebook and the rest become irrelevant one by one, blissfully unaware that only their embodiment of the chihuahua is given any reach, which remains following the left around on a five year delay. Maybe they'll be given some token wins on fag and tranny issues to sweeten the pot, but will double down on acting like any racialism or noticing is beyond the pale.

Here's hoping this is just a schizo theory.
Or they've realized that an internet version of the Ottoman millet system is the way, let each demographic have its own echo chamber with its own Overton window.
That's the problem when you fucking cancel someone, and not only cancel them, but fucking destroy their lives as a result. His Adidas deal was fucked, but his bank accounts getting frozen? Threatening to take his kids? You isolate a fucker like that and he's only going to get crazier and find other spergs who aren't scared of being seen with him. And that just leaves a disgraced fag like MIlo, who had more or less the same shit happen to him. Hell, if not for the Tweedle-dee and dum of faggotry Kanye's dinner with Trump might have been actually helpful, seems like he went there looking for advice and assistance.

Better than nothing, right? But nah, having Nick and Milo there meant the dinner probably devolved into the trio telling Trump that his son-in-law needed to go into an oven or some shit.
Maybe that's the point, to turn the target into the crazy hobo yelling on the street corner, so that "small fringe minority" is a self-fulfilling prophecy.
 
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People were talking about Tim muting Nick's mic. I re-watched the part right before they left and it looks like he did mute him, but I can't be sure. I understand people shitting on Kanye for storming out, but I'm not clear on why exactly he stormed out. Is it because he felt it was another set up he clearly stated he will not participate in, or because Tim didn't let Nick finish even a single thought. If they left because they were getting muted, I don't blame them at all, more power to them imo. If they left because they were being interrupted, I'd prefer they gave it a little more time before walking out. If they stayed longer and Tim kept being as pathetic it would only made Tim look dumber and dig his hole deeper.

Tim could learn much from Null's masterful interview with Tommy Tooter. He calls his format a "conversation" not an interview. Fine Tim. Let me see you have this kind of a "conversation" IRL with your (hypothetical) wife for example, and see how well it goes. In such a situation her walking out on you would be most merciful thing imaginable, borderline divine intervention designed to humble you. It is much more likely you'd be the one kicked to the curb, retreating humiliated with your tail between your legs.

Also it's funny Kanye said he stopped growing when he became famous at 24. I wonder if lil Nick, being 24 years old himself thought about this coincidence. It's still not too late for everything to go even downhillier for Nick. I craft words like a pro.
Tim did an abysmal job last night. You don't want Ye to go on about the Jews, I get that, but he went about it like a retard. He could have taken a moment to clarify that they may be mostly Jewish, but that's not indicative of anything with most Jews. That the issue is their actions/motives, not ethnicity, and there's non-Jewish people involved too. Address it once, and keep moving. He could have gotten a lot of valuable information from Ye, and give a lot of people insight to Nick, Milo, and AF, but he couldn't shut the fuck up. If I remember right, that's why one of his ex cohosts left to begin with.

The thing about Ye not growing after he became famous was interesting. Essentially treated like a baby, surrounded by people who do most things for him. The thing about buying his own bank, his old handler, etc. would have been great to hear more on.
 
Gay AF.
 

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Tim Pool manages to piss off practically every hip-hop guest he has on through his autism and lack of ebonics knowledge. Even the wiggers wanna kick his ass.
Tim Pool does not understand respect or the streets. He is used to being able to say whatever he wants behind a keyboard with no threats of violence. The most fascinating thing to me about this video is how fast Tim Pool starts talking quietly and reasonably after the guest wants to fight him. Guess they're not on equal footing after all.

I am guessing Kanye walked out for a similar reason. You don't talk to gang members like children to their faces, even if they haven't been active in decades. You don't try to little bro them, they will escalate things way further than you are comfortable with.
 
Since our trio barely got to say anything in the Tim Pool interview, what other show do we want them to appear on?

Some ideas:
- Destiny: 0 chance of this but it would be a very amusing show since Destiny and Nick have such a history and Destiny is another cow. This could also be a fun way for Destiny to stick it to Mr. Girl over their fight about Nick.
- No Jumper: will give them a long leash in the interview. when they had Nick on, they basically gave him free reign and he won over the hood black.
- Killstream: Ethan Ralph is an artistic master of the interview, according to Ali Alexander.
- Joe Rogan: this would really upset Nick's enemies and therefore produce fun copes, and would continue skyrocketing the profile of this shitshow
 
The cope over Nicks appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel show is already coming in. From the Daily Stormer:

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He's not wrong tho?

Large numbers of men throughout history have absolutely despised having to deal with women, Schopenhauer for one-every philosopher of note, men who became monks, conquerors, politicians, scientists and mathematicians.

Women are silly, often lack the ability to understand or discuss the sort of things men like to discuss or do, and so avoiding them or doing the bare minimum with your spouse/intended has been a historical norm.

Nick ought to have said "the sort of man who enjoys dating is effeminate or unserious"-which is albeit a more nuanced point and doesn't make an easy soundbite.

Even playboys who like fucking women often don't like having to deal with them otherwise. Enjoying socializing with women/dealing with them in a transactional or professional context is absolutely something homosexual men like doing.

The notion you're gay if you'd rather be designing bridges, leading armies, or studying philosophy as opposed to socializing with women is ridiculous as it is depraved.

That isn't to say Nick doesn't act gay-he does. But I'm willing to be generous on the point he was trying to make.
 
Since our trio barely got to say anything in the Tim Pool interview, what other show do we want them to appear on?

Some ideas:
- Destiny: 0 chance of this but it would be a very amusing show since Destiny and Nick have such a history and Destiny is another cow. This could also be a fun way for Destiny to stick it to Mr. Girl over their fight about Nick.
- No Jumper: will give them a long leash in the interview. when they had Nick on, they basically gave him free reign and he won over the hood black.
- Killstream: Ethan Ralph is an artistic master of the interview, according to Ali Alexander.
- Joe Rogan: this would really upset Nick's enemies and therefore produce fun copes, and would continue skyrocketing the profile of this shitshow
Why doesn't Nick just fire up a livestream of his own?

Nick ought to have said "the sort of man who enjoys dating is effeminate or unserious"-which is albeit a more nuanced point and doesn't make an easy soundbite.

Even playboys who like fucking women often don't like having to deal with them otherwise. Enjoying socializing with women/dealing with them in a transactional or professional context is absolutely something homosexual men like doing.
That's why they say you aren't paying a hooker for sex you're paying them to leave when it's over.
 
We weren't solving shit by locking men, women, and children in underfunded, poorly maintained facilities, often under terribly cruel conditions.

And it used to be a joke what could get someone locked up indefinitely. Hell just look at what the Kennedys did to the one daughter.
Lot of problems would be solved by making it free to commit yourself to a mental hospital. Could leave if you want to so there’s an incentive to provide decent facilities then.
 
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