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Is her arm sausage resting on top of her pubes ? Have these girls ever seen a male body in real life ?
Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers
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Is her arm sausage resting on top of her pubes ? Have these girls ever seen a male body in real life ?
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I don’t get it. This is yet another TiF who’s getting a fake urethra routed through her clit, and then a year later, re-routing the urethra yet again (and adding more fake tubing) through the rotdog. Why do they bother with routing the urethra through the clit if they’re only going to re-route it away from there a relatively short while afterwards? Seems like twice the risk of scarring, strictures and failure for no real reason that I can see. Why don’t the surgeons just leave all the pee plumbing alone until rotdog time?This one got particulary unlucky. Bunch of problems and multiple surgeries before even attaching the rotdog.
Take note, this is a silly feminine gayden not a lesbian.
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If she's getting strictures, fistulas and wound separation before the main installation she's going to have a very rough time. Hopefully her postponing it is a sign she's going to quit after she gets her repairs.depression between stages
I had stage 1 of bottom surgery in june 2022. I had v-nectomy, scrotoplasty, and UL. Unfortunately I developed a stricture (along w/ nasty wound separation under my scrotum that healed into a fistula) and had to keep the sp catheter until i could have stage 2.
In the 5 months since surgery i’ve grown increasingly depressed and now with only 3 days to go until surgery i just feel so terrible. Being dependent on the sp just stripped away all my confidence and really took a toll on my mental health.
My stage 2 is only going to consist of upper scrotoplasty and UL repair - no implants or anything else. I was initially going to have RFF as stage 2 but i decided I just cannot go through another major surgery right now so i’ve postponed it for stage 3.
I’m preparing for surgery but so just feel so sad and discouraged. Obviously I need surgery if I ever want to pee normally, and i’ve waited 6 months for it. I’m just looking for some encouragement and support going into surgery on thursday.
Here's a post she made 2 months ago.
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thinking about giving up on UL....
I had stage 1 of my phallo process which was essentially full meta. I had UL in my natal penis but ended up with a stricture and a fistula (along w wound seperation issues) The surgery was june 2022. I’ve had an sp catheter ever since surgery and have had to pad my underwear with guaze.
The stricture is internal (right where my bladder meets the urethra) so my surgeon said it’s an easy fix with a near 100% success rate. My fistula is right at the joint of the neourethra and natal urethra so a very common place which my surgeon said also has a pretty good chance of being repaired. Though the simplest surgery would be routing my urethra through the back of my scrotum.
My original plan was stage 1 summer 6/22, stage 2 winter 12/22, and stage 3 summer 6/23. Due to my complications my stage 2 this winter 12/22 will be finishing my scrotoplasty (no implants) and fixing my UL issues. Holding off the rest of the phallo process.
Due to my current life/school/work status having two major surgeries two summers in a row is just not feasible anymore. So I made the difficult decision to postpone stage 3 (phallus creation) until a later date, likely summer 2024. That was a tough decision to make but it had to be made. The recovery process has worn me down so much.
If my next UL surgery fails this december, I’ll end up keeping the sp cath until april/may and having another surgery and still not undergoing phallus creation.
At this point i’m thinking about just giving up on UL and routing the urethra under my scrotum. That way my next surgery would just be phallus creation and a follow up glansplasty (not planning on ED). The benefit of this being less risk for complications and less risk for additional surgeries. Also giving up on UL would make me a candidate for ALT (tube in a tube with ALT would be too girthy for my anatomy).
My priorities for surgery were mainly aesthetics and dysphoria relief. Standing too pee was also a large priority but not as much as just having a penis.
If i give up on UL now i likely will be giving up on UL forever. Which is pretty devastating. But i just don’t know how many surgeries and recoveries i can deal with. I’m just feeling really beat down.
Has anyone gone through a similar situation? I would really love to hear from anyone who had an sp for an extended time, i’m a little over 3 months and can’t imagine having it for 9-10."...so my surgeon said it’s an easy fix with a near 100% success rate..." "...my surgeon said also has a pretty good chance of being repaired."Every surgeon says it will be an easy repair yet I'm always seeing the TiFs got through multiple surgical attempts.
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This 21 year old just fucked up their health and education over this dumb trend.
(There are undoubtedly daft gals who only want to get the pissing clit thing done, and only after that decide on a rotdog installation. I don’t mean those dumbasses)
As for the dope who keeps getting abscesses in her rotdog along with the fistula, how much pain and filth do you have to put up with before admitting that the armsausage isn’t going to work? Just get the damn thing cut off!
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if you're an unskilled doctor with zero morals, there's a lot of money to be made in this.
there aren't many people willing to do it, so competition with people more talented than you isn't really an issue. you too can be a talentless hack and cut off someone's genitals for 50k a pop.
the best part is: there's basically no way for them to claim malpractice. your end goal is essentially creating an open wound, so who are they going to cry to if you 'botch' what essentially a botch job to begin with?
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I have a relative who experienced wound dehiscence after a caesarian section. Turns out that the surgeon really, really means it when he tells you not to lift anything heavier than 8-10 pounds for the first 6 weeks after delivery.
It's not common at all for surgical incisions to just...come apart, unless the patient has an underlying condition, as @Aunt Carol mentioned. Given the abysmal quality of the closures we see performed on troons, it doesn't surprise me, though. Often, it appears that the surgeon has applied far too much tension on either the sutures themselves or on the approximated edges of skin, which is basically a recipe for impaired perfusion, "popped" stitches, and dehiscence. I've noticed it in neovaginas, neophalluses, and "top surgeries". The butchering of that fat troon "Rylan" by Sidhbh Gallagher is a great example of it. She pulled the edges of the incision so tight that the tissue died on one side, and on the other, the patient developed horrendous striae (stretch marks) basically overnight.
Suturing is really an art, especially in plastics, and it's unbelievable how poorly many of the more famous butchers appear to do it. One of the first things you learn when suturing is not to put too much tension on the skin. This is one reason why there's a limit to how much tissue can feasibly be removed in a single surgery.
(When the obstetrician was examining the re-opened incision, he noticed that one small area had healed slightly better and the edges were still approximated. Since he needed to re-suture the whole thing for it to heal cleanly, he told my relative to "look up at the ceiling for just a second", then cut the healed tissue apart. With scissors. Without numbing. No advance warning, just snip. Considering how much the troons REEEEE about stuff like having the packing removed from their neovaginas, I'd love to see their reaction to such a thing.)
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It depends on the surgery more than anything else. The type of complications that happen and the prevalence depend on the procedure, but there are definitely non-SRS, non-cosmetic surgeries that have a high rate of failure. One I know of is hemorrhoid procedures, they fail bc the hemorrhoid's simply come back shortly after the procedure. you don't hear about the failure rate bc people don't tend to discuss their assholes with anyone if they can avoid it and most people are only mildly inconvenienced by their hemorrhoids. Sinus surgeries tend to provide only temporary relief. Like I said in the thread earlier, replacement joints have a much shorter lifespan than bones so 15 years out it is common to need a new one. A lot of the weight loss surgical devices simply don't work and people get them taken out. I am sure there are more examples that I am not aware of.
Some of the worst surgeries are those that involve materials or devices that are ultimately recalled. Vaginal mesh, which is used to repair fissures, fistulas, prolapses etc of the female reproductive system & bladder was recalled because the mesh has an unacceptably high rate of eroding through the vagina, breaking, or causing adhesions (scar tissue) to form on pelvic organs. Adhesions inside the body are tricky, trying to remove them often causes the body to form more adhesions than if you left it alone. I knew someone who was in so much pain after a mesh surgery that it affected her mobility, and surgeons could not figure out a plan to remove the mesh without potentially making it worse. I think about this a lot when I see aidens clamoring for erectile devices. It can take many years and many ruined lives before something gets recalled, and the agencies tasked with recalling medical devices seem to have grown worse over time. They have all become politicized.
Most of the time surgery is the last resort, so often if your surgery "fails" you die, and can't post about it on reddit. I have seen it in the hospital plenty of times, and the top causes across the board are infection or bleeding. The statistics for surgeries and infection deaths can be tricky because sometimes the patient populations have a terrible immune system and are more likely to get an infection.
This link has a list of risky surgeries, it is pretty good. You will notice gastric bypass is on the list, partially because they warp the digestive tract into an unnatural form and partially because the patients are mega fats and at high risk of death to begin with. A common theme of the riskiest surgeries is that they yeet an entire organ or a section of it with nothing to replace it. SRS surgeries all do this with reproductive organs, and then compound the risk by building weird structures on top of where organs were removed.
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Another demonstration that the rotdogs are just numb, nerveless rolls of flesh, there is no way a guy could clamp one of those fucking things around his dick for any amount of time, let alone walk around for hours with one.
Also that pic of the rotdog looking from the end down clearly displays its just formed from a rolled up chunk of meat and stapled together.
Like if you found one of those random chunks of flesh you see after an IED and made a meaty Swiss Roll out of it then stitched it to someones crotch.
Being crazy enough to want and pay for that fucking abomination should show theyre too crazy to consent.
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It doesn't matter when a MTF troon cut off his balls and how long and how much E he's been pumping, he will always be stronger than a comparable real woman:
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Exactly the point. Both natal males and females have complex genitals composed of tissues, muscles, nerves, blood vessels, etc., that all work in concert with other physiological, psychological, and hormonal cues for them to properly operate. The butchers are, at best, creating flesh facsimiles that have zero accord with the rest of the body. No amount of HRT and wishful thinking (i.e., "I feel like I'm X, therefore I am...") is going to win out the biological war.
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I’m glad you brought up the art of suturing.
One of the suture techs at a Children’s ER I knew was very skilled and did a lot of facial repair for children with things like dog bites and other disfiguring facial injuries. His skill and patience certainly improved the lives of hundreds of kids who don’t have to walk around with horrific facial scarring. It’s one of those specific skills that most people outside of medicine may never appreciate because it’s seen as a very simple process. And when it’s done well, it’s nearly invisible.
The widespread issues with infection, popped stitches and dehiscence in SRS is absolutely not the norm in mainstream medicine and never should be. Aftercare matters a lot but no amount of aftercare will improve the botch jobs these butchers are dishing out. But “revision” is just as lucrative as the original surgery so make of that what you will.
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The only thing I know of that can truly fuck up surgery is being diabetic. That already causes issues in healing, so it can leave you vulnerable to surgeries going wrong. Especially healing from things like retinal detachment.
I worked with a guy who had something like 3 surgeries to try and fix that, before the docs pretty much gave up because the scar tissue made it so he probably wouldn’t get his vision back even if they could get it to stay in place.
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I understand your skepticism, but those incontinence clamps are actually for natal men; I seen 'em in use. Never in anyone younger than 60, though. Food for thought: these are the comfortable, modern versions.
I was going to say that maybe the problem is that they're getting SRS on the government dime, and they should try handing the surgeon an envelope full of 20s for, like, a couple more stitches on that incision. It could be a whole boost to the revenue stream: add-on fee for competent approximation.
For the FtMs, though, the shitty closures are there on purpose, to create their own Mensur scars. In all these pictures, I've seen Prevena/Prevena adhesive maybe twice, and that's a great cheat for healing a huge incision in a doughy torso.
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Horrible boob job, his home is a mess, he uses face and body filters most of the time (and they make him look like several different persons), he makes photos of himself "crying"...yep, this man is a narc train wreck.
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I love how in every picture of him, even when he’s crying on the bed, his tits are hanging out. It’s so pornified.
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Filtered, photoshopped, makeup and more plastic than a wagon full of lego:
"This is me"
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Why does he only have one titty in some pictures? Deflated implant?
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Okay, so I did some research about a comparable surgery to top surgery, breast reduction, on Real Self (a website devoted to plastic surgery reviews, pretty much the yelp of that shit lol.) Real Self says 97% of women recommend breast reduction and would do it again, less than 1% regret surgery. There is a 14% mild complication rate- infections, bleeding, severe bruising, etc. The life threatening/severe complications rate (including necrosis) is 1/10 of 1%. And of course, every piece of literature I could find citing complications universally said that smoking and obesity are usually why people have complications. Most recommend a BMI of 30 or less before surgery. SRS surgeons are fucking sadist trolls.
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In some of these cases, I think surgeons blame it on failure to adhere to aftercare instructions as a way of placing fault solely on the troon. I think it depends on the surgeon whether this is a shaming tactic or just an attempt at avoiding a lawsuit.
Sometimes even in the immediate post-surgery photos, you can tell that there's no way the incisions are going to heal. Rylan's top surgery was one of those for me. It's insane that Gallagher is trained in plastics. Usually the plastics people are the ones you want suturing a wound if you want it to look good once healed.
Swelling is another reason for the extreme tension on the skin. I'm not expert enough to know if it's even possible for a surgeon to employ techniques to reduce the amount of postsurgical swelling or if it kind of just is what it is. The patient can do some things to decrease swelling but I'm wondering if it's possible during a procedure to prevent it from happening at all. The genitals are extremely vascular and it seems like some degree of massive swelling is unavoidable even with perfect technique and aftercare.
I edited to add that the words "urethral" and "abscess" should never, ever be as close together as they were in that one post from the TIF with chronic infections of her metioidoplasty site. Any woman who has had a urinary tract infection knows how AWFUL they feel - like a constant, urgent need to piss RIGHT NOW or you'll wet your pants, but bladder spasms and cramping prevent anything from coming out and when you do manage to get a trickle, it's like extruding white-hot razor blades via your crotch. I cannot imagine how quickly your quality of life takes a nosedive if you cannot take a piss normally. It's even worse to think about living your life KNOWING that you're perpetually brewing yet another abscess in your urethra and it's only a matter of days before you're in excruciating pain again. That constant cycle of dread, crippling pain, exquisite relief, and then the realization that it's bound to happen again is soul-crushing. I know the wait times for follow-up in countries with government healthcare can be long, but I feel like chronic urinary infection is something that merits being bumped to the top of the list. It's only a matter of time before this poor woman cultures a big, nasty bacteria that can't be treated and then she's shitfucked. Well, even more shitfucked.
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d00leys, despite only being able to pee for a few days, has taken it upon herself to be as gross as possible.
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To my post/pursuing UL people: Do/would you ever pee in the sink?
Please help me settle a debate between myself and u/TransInOK.
My stance: I pee in the sink out of convenience sometimes. I mean if there is a toilet in the same distance, I will go there. But if the sink is closer (and only if it is my own sink!), then I just find it convenient to pee there.
My arguments: My bedroom has a sink. The toilet is down the hall, I prefer standing to pee, but I live with roommates so I feel it's rude to STP at a shared toilet (because splashback, seat etc). I clean my sink a lot more often than I clean my toilet. I just flush by using the faucet. I only do this in my own home + my bfs. I don't go around peeing in other people's sinks. I am the sole user of said sink.
His stance: He thinks that nobody does this but me. Which is obviously wrong, but he won't believe me. I think he's just mad that he can't reach the sink. When we grow up, I am buying him a short sink and a stepping stool <3
Note: Poll is 24 yes and 15 no.
Please help me settle a debate between myself and u/TransInOK.
My stance: I pee in the sink out of convenience sometimes. I mean if there is a toilet in the same distance, I will go there. But if the sink is closer (and only if it is my own sink!), then I just find it convenient to pee there.
My arguments: My bedroom has a sink. The toilet is down the hall, I prefer standing to pee, but I live with roommates so I feel it's rude to STP at a shared toilet (because splashback, seat etc). I clean my sink a lot more often than I clean my toilet. I just flush by using the faucet. I only do this in my own home + my bfs. I don't go around peeing in other people's sinks. I am the sole user of said sink.
His stance: He thinks that nobody does this but me. Which is obviously wrong, but he won't believe me. I think he's just mad that he can't reach the sink. When we grow up, I am buying him a short sink and a stepping stool <3
Note: Poll is 24 yes and 15 no.
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A troon got his stink-ditch installed, but the immediate amhole euphoria seems to have worn off, and now he's asking the Hugbox how to tackle post-op depression:
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The Hugbox delivers yet again! ...sort of.
An earlier post by this troon:
He seems to have experienced amhole issues from the get-go.
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The Hugbox delivers yet again! ...sort of.
An earlier post by this troon:
He seems to have experienced amhole issues from the get-go.