Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[KiwiFuzz]

Stupid question but do regular surgeries just fall apart frequently?

I don't think I know anyone that this has happened to, but maybe it happens all the time and I just never hear about it?

But like every other one of these is like "Welp, eight stitches just popped and I look like I tried to fuck a meat cleaver, but my surgical team is super great! I have confidence that during the fourth revision they're going to turn the hamburger back into a cow!"

Thinking about my own question, I may have hit upon a potential answer.

I'm not a doctor, I don't pretend to be a doctor.

But like if you have a shoulder replacement, it's one big cut across a couple large muscles. So if you get a half an inch of swelling, you have a whole foot of scapular muscle and tissue to attenuate the swelling.

SRS is many cuts in a smaller area, so if each cut produces a half an inch of swelling and you have 6 cuts in a 6-inch area, that's a really high ratio of swollen area to healthy tissue. Like if you made a series of gashes two inches apart on a shoulder, it would look like you fell into a fan blade even after it healed because the tissue wouldn't heal properly around the wounds.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

d00leys, despite only being able to pee for a few days, has taken it upon herself to be as gross as possible.
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To my post/pursuing UL people: Do/would you ever pee in the sink?
Please help me settle a debate between myself and u/TransInOK.
My stance: I pee in the sink out of convenience sometimes. I mean if there is a toilet in the same distance, I will go there. But if the sink is closer (and only if it is my own sink!), then I just find it convenient to pee there.
My arguments: My bedroom has a sink. The toilet is down the hall, I prefer standing to pee, but I live with roommates so I feel it's rude to STP at a shared toilet (because splashback, seat etc). I clean my sink a lot more often than I clean my toilet. I just flush by using the faucet. I only do this in my own home + my bfs. I don't go around peeing in other people's sinks. I am the sole user of said sink.
His stance: He thinks that nobody does this but me. Which is obviously wrong, but he won't believe me. I think he's just mad that he can't reach the sink. When we grow up, I am buying him a short sink and a stepping stool <3

Note: Poll is 24 yes and 15 no.

They really sincerely believe men are all or mostly like this.

Are the men in animoos like this? If not, where are they getting this idea? Did their dads pee in the sink at home?

The average schnauzer has better hygiene than these freaks.

 

[Bibendum]

Can't quote the post, but someone here asked why FTMs sometimes opt for meta and then phallo at a later date, despite this increasing both cost and risk. I've seen two explanations given for this:

(1) the patient knows she will eventually want phalloplasty but is prevented from pursuing it immediately due to cost or a waiting list; she decides to get meta done in the meantime because she's incredibly impatient and doesn't understand how this can affect later surgical outcomes

(2) the patient initially thinks that meta will relieve her dysphoria and that she will be satisfied; after surgery, she doesn't feel any better and continues to chase the gender dragon, eventually deciding that she's going to need phallo too

Both motives are crazy but the sheer impulsiveness of the former really takes the cake.

 

[Fields Of Rye]

In some of these cases, I think surgeons blame it on failure to adhere to aftercare instructions as a way of placing fault solely on the troon. I think it depends on the surgeon whether this is a shaming tactic or just an attempt at avoiding a lawsuit.

Sometimes even in the immediate post-surgery photos, you can tell that there's no way the incisions are going to heal. Rylan's top surgery was one of those for me. It's insane that Gallagher is trained in plastics. Usually the plastics people are the ones you want suturing a wound if you want it to look good once healed.

You can't really sue over this matter. A lot of medicine is literally waiting to see. Unless you can prove fault from the doctor, which isn't going to happen, the docs are gonna be hands off unless its an actual medical concern.

Stupid question but do regular surgeries just fall apart frequently?

I don't think I know anyone that this has happened to, but maybe it happens all the time and I just never hear about it?

But like if you have a shoulder replacement, it's one big cut across a couple large muscles. So if you get a half an inch of swelling, you have a whole foot of scapular muscle and tissue to attenuate the swelling.

SRS is many cuts in a smaller area, so if each cut produces a half an inch of swelling and you have 6 cuts in a 6-inch area, that's a really high ratio of swollen area to healthy tissue. Like if you made a series of gashes two inches apart on a shoulder, it would look like you fell into a fan blade even after it healed because the tissue wouldn't heal properly around the wounds.

Medfag adjacent, you are on the right track but it's really not about just swelling. The human body is a complex series of what is essentially a constant leaking sieve and vacuum. Your heart pumps and sucks and blood shoots through your arteries, into your capillaries, and is pulled out through the veins. There are many paths to take in most places, but generally the farther out you get, the more potential deadzones, the more vital vascular infrastructure is, et cetera. Guys look at that fat fucking dick vein. Now stop. put it up. No one wants to see it, Sit down Imagine..... Scratch that. Nevermind. I'm not typing that.

instead imagine cutting a one of the "arteries" on the knuckle of your finger. I know this because I have. It will somewhat quickly go purple. Apply pressure and circulation returns. It's being routed around basically. You have a lot of redundancies.

There exist some very complex surgeries involving circulation but at the end of the day the human body is tremendously robust at not fucking up on the blood in blood out part, to the point where most surgeons are just not worried about it. The human body will route around. But it has limits. Too much trauma, too much damage, and the infrastructure might lack the ability to properly reach. Theres such a pressure drop at the capillaries that too many twist and turns and you just might start losing tissue due to well, I guess you might call it shock.

In the case of vaginoplasty, think of the regions that cause the most problems. The "lips" and "clit", frequently regions that are going to have poor diffusion regardless. Regions around the stitches which, if my secondhand knowledge is correct, is usually patching into the blood flow of where it's being attached too.

The sausage dicks are an easy one. Thigh and arm meat is tremendously spoilt (no not like that... yet) by having a giant fuckoff artery next to them. Make a dick out of it and suddenly the bodies gotta pump that blood uphill. The problems write themselves.

 

[Gar For Archer]

A troon got his stink-ditch installed, but the immediate amhole euphoria seems to have worn off, and now he's asking the Hugbox how to tackle post-op depression:

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The Hugbox delivers yet again! ...sort of.

An earlier post by this troon:
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He seems to have experienced amhole issues from the get-go.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/zm0t11/3_weeks_post_op_have_some_painful_dehiscence_that/

These niggas REALLY gotta realize that post-surgery “gender euphoria” is literally just fucking opiates.

 

[Fartificial Insmelligence]

https://twitter.com/RichMcHugh/status/1603214379612344320

This oughta bring out a lot of copers, seethers and dilators...

 

[batteredpancakes]

u/SuccessfulBed3115 of this sad post

Look what just got posted. u/SuccessfulBed3115
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has made another post elaborating on her phalloplasty regret.

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How old were you when you had phallo surgery?
I was 17 and had my top surgery, I had complications like blood clots and swelling. In that year I’ve felt never so euphoric about my new body and my t dick was growing I have a girlfriend I start dating that year. I was still discovering with my girlfriend and she opened me more, but still decided to get phallo that same year. My mom was my supporter and wanted to give me the phallo surgery as soon as possible. But I wasn’t never sure, how do you really know if you want phallo and not having regret after it. You can’t predict the future…. I was kinda getting addicted to the new feeling of getting oral. But was still dysphoric about my downstairs. So I’m very visually person, so I thought I shouldn’t regret it. But after phallo I was not the same anymore in sex, I couldn’t enjoy anymore because that intense feeling of getting oral.

I’m 26 and I do regret phallo, because how I think now is very different than how I used to think. I’m more open, now that I live with my girlfriend my world is very different. I do more stuff now with my girlfriend that I never did before, I used to be a top but now I’m like a pancake to flip to the bottom side sometimes. Also my girlfriend wanted to try be a top when we were younger but it made me feel feminine and submissive, the feeling of shame came trough so I didn’t take long. That’s a regret also because I was curious, but of the shame to feel feminine I didn’t try. I was struggling in my head and at that age to get a phallo is how I see it now. Too early. I taught I figured out by myself but no. I was thinking about meta a few times but it was not really spoken about it, it was just for old people and my mom said it would be financially better if I do phallo first and not meta first and then phallo. My mom made me also feel guilty because she hasn’t much money so she lend money from her friends and grandmother who supported me to get phalloplasty. And I needed to get phallo so she could give them the money back.

All that said I’m now stuck in a life with fantasies I never tried before phallo. And stuck with that sensations of getting oral. Because now I can’t experience. So I think if you get phallo you might try things first, and acknowledge the feeling you have will not have anymore. I did a nerve hookup, and its not the same feeling. The feeling was important to me but doctors and my mom said the feelings they connect it with the clit so you feel it. The communication went trough my mom because I have autism and she was my person who helped me in every doctors appointment. My mom and my girlfriend are not so close, my girlfriend wasn’t sure about ut the surgery but was supportive in my decision. She said to do a meta instead first but my mom disagreed like I said before. A lot was going on for such a short time that the month after my birthday I got my surgery. In that case why I now have found Reddit to speak about regret and see how you guys feel about getting phallo on a early age, did it effect you now?

Surprise surprise you think differently now at 26 than you did at 18. Who could've guessed?

 

[Asda Smartprice Sausage]

d00leys, despite only being able to pee for a few days, has taken it upon herself to be as gross as possible.
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This is such grotty behaviour. Ew. Also why does it seems like FTMs just have raging piss kinks?

 

[papaya]

Surprise surprise you think differently now at 26 than you did at 18. Who could've guessed?

This is just sad, the real cow here is munchie mom. One of the worst I’ve ever heard of if the TIF is to be believed (questionable).

Usually we see moms of MTFs, that desperately wanted a daughter instead of a son, are appeasing their homophobic husband who thinks a 2 year old playing with Barbies is incontrovertible evidence of the gay, or simply a psychotic mom that thinks it’s hilarious to castrate her son.

While fierce momma bears to Aiden “sons” are certainly not uncommon, and we even see them bringing their sad teen daughters to the teet yeet shop, I can’t remember previously hearing a tranchausen by proxy mom talk about her daughter’s flesh burrito surgery. In this case the mom seems pretty clearly to blame, for urging her daughter on and even borrowing money to do so (???).

Armchair psychologists, I need help on this one. What would possess a mom to go on a quest to get her daughter a rot dog?

 

[Det. Frank Washington Esq]

Tortenelli Testicles posted quite a funny pic of her phallo. It's just so obvious it's slapped on to a female mons.

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It almost looks like she's thinking "Tee hee, look at my pee pee! lol" (I see that Larry David's Crypto Fund already beat me to that observation, but great minds...)

That’s commonly referred to as EWCM (egg white cervical mucus). Normally it’s perfectly healthy for a woman to have this kind of discharge for one to a few days each month. A woman produces this cervical mucus around the time of ovulation as a form of natural lubricant; it helps move sperm through the vagina into the uterus where it fertilizes the egg.

Nothing like having a uniquely female form of discharge leaking from your skin burrito

I appreciate all the biological differences knowledge bombs I've learned here beyond the 101 stuff I already know. This is the type of dead horse that I can watch being beat to a pulp.

 

[Xanax and Wine]

Armchair psychologists, I need help on this one. What would possess a mom to go on a quest to get her daughter a rot dog?

A lot of armchair and little psychologist but I could imagine these moms having some deep-seated issues about womanhood themselves, maybe they were abused and want to protect their daughters from suffering like they have or, more sinister, they are misogynistic and/or see their own daughter as a sort of rival, afraid the daughter might turn out prettier than the mom ect. so they push to make these girls as unappealing as possible.

This girl in particular is a lesbian (if the girlfriend is an actual woman) so maybe there's some sprinkle of homophobia in there too

 

[Point and Laugh]

This is such grotty behaviour. Ew. Also why does it seems like FTMs just have raging piss kinks?

Every woman can admit to being a little jealous of men having the ability to pee wherever the hell they want.

In this case it’s more likely she’s compelled to post disgusting shit to convince herself and the world that she has a real boy dick that can pee into a sink rather than a bag strapped to her body.

Which we all know is a risky humble brag given the track record of phallo.

 

[PBR Streetgang]

A lot of armchair and little psychologist but I could imagine these moms having some deep-seated issues about womanhood themselves, maybe they were abused and want to protect their daughters from suffering like they have or, more sinister, they are misogynistic and/or see their own daughter as a sort of rival, afraid the daughter might turn out prettier than the mom ect. so they push to make these girls as unappealing as possible.

This girl in particular is a lesbian (if the girlfriend is an actual woman) so maybe there's some sprinkle of homophobia in there too

Plus, the desperation of the parent to just have a normal kid, not a gender obsessed weirdo. I'm sure many tell themselves that yeah, ok, she's a miserable mentally ill mess, and acting crazy, but that's just the dysphoria! Once she gets "the surgery" she'll have a totally normal functional dick and be a happy normal true & honest male person.
This line of thinking could also explain the reluctance of the parent to let her do the "meta": aside from being a waste of time and money, from that ^ normie perspective it's also a weird-ass surgery. They think the rot-dog is functional and gives you a son. With the metoid-, it doesn't give you a son, it gives you a daughter with a dinosaur clit.
Obviously the rot-dog won't be a normal dick, and the daughter will still be insane and miserable. But thanks to troon propaganda and censorship people really do not realize this at all.

 

[Quack_Quack]

I have abscess after abscess after abscess , I'm in constant pain, I might lose my job because I can't work but I DO NOT REGRET THE SURGERY! No, nada, nein, njet, いいえ!!

Why the fuck is she not getting the thing causing the absesses removed? Because of course, muh dysphoriaaaaaa

Stupid question but do regular surgeries just fall apart frequently?

I don't think I know anyone that this has happened to, but maybe it happens all the time and I just never hear about it?

But like every other one of these is like "Welp, eight stitches just popped and I look like I tried to fuck a meat cleaver, but my surgical team is super great! I have confidence that during the fourth revision they're going to turn the hamburger back into a cow!"

Errrrr no... mild PL but ive had a few and none have decided welp time to come apart like a fucked up zipper.

This thread taught me the urethra is a beautiful delicate little structure. I wonder if these people know that their first in the morning pee before the surgery will be the last easy pee of their lives? Everything with a bladder needs to pee, people!!!!!! Don't ruin your delicate little tubes!!!!

I also wonder, what is the pain of dilating an amhole? Does it burn? Ache from pushing into cut muscles? Do those muscles cramp up? Does it feel like ripping off a wet scab every time?

Going to guess the constant repeated tears/fissures combined with whatever tf they use as lube cause the pain... combined with urine, that's gonna sting

 

[Tard Whisperer]

Tranny got completely butchered in Thailand.

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So, I have just seen experienced and well known plastic surgeons in the country, this was about my BA job and fat transfer which I had done in Kamol Hospital in the beginning of this year.
So, ...Kamol again... it is like some sort of returning horror to my life...
I had 625cc full profile implants packed into mu chest by Dr. Janjira, during consultation they did not take any measurements, did not confirm what size of implants is needed for desired D cup, they just assumed the size out of the blue and I ended up with badly done mega tits. I have trusted into their expertise and it was my mistake. So what the surgeon told me today is that they did install way too big implants in relation to available breast tissue at the time and it caused such stress on existing breast tissue that in effect I have got "double-bubble" tissue blow out because all "the meat and fat" is squashed under the skin and is pushed out at the bottom edges. The skin is so much stretched that you can see the implants just under the skin. Bottom of the breasts is blown out and all of it looks like crashed egg where the egg yolk protrudes up and egg white is at its bottom.
I was told that Dr. Janjira is very experienced doctor once I was in Kamol Hospital, it tuns out it is not entirely true statement because local specialist looked at it and said that he did not see such job in several years (in a meaning of "what a cowboy did this?"). I had as well fat grafting into my hip area and upper bum, this was done in such way that instead of having proper rounded female shape I have top triangle shape where the top of my hips are having two balloons of fat protruding out on each side, it is over 300ml on each side and 100+ over each buttocks. It looks very much not natural.
So what now, in short I need implants being removed and replaced with smaller size or extra fat grafting to fix all of it, but this will make boobs even bigger if even possible, it is quite bad news because of the general problems related to it. I cannot go down to desired D (estimated size of the implant would be 400), I have limited options here because of the skin deformation, etc. 500 is probably my bottom limit and long recovery again witting ahead.
Re fat transfer, it is another liposuction and again reconstruction and filling up all the holes and deformations created in a process of localized fat injection in large quantity without spreading it evenly around.
I would imagine that experienced doctor which Dr. Janjira was supposed to be would know all of this and inform the patient about all the potential results and explain entire problem so informed decision could be made. Of course the "cowboys" in Kamol Hospital hardly know what they are really doing so this is just a result of it.
This adds to the same treatment with SRS where I was told that I don't need to do hair removal (this was Darcie Silver advising here, she just said that she did pluck the hair out after the op and in never grew back). The issue is that she missed out on the fact of the external tissue being used inside and now I face hell of problems because of hair growing inside in the front behind the entry and at the back. If I would be given correct advice at the time I would pay $1K and get electrolysis done before the operation, but it was not explained again.
Conclusion, Kamol did charge me about 90000 dollars in total, they did following:

1. SRS - needs revision of inner labias , they did not join it with anything at the bottom so pee goes all over the shop, another op to fix hair growing inside, erectile tissue to be removed...
2. SRS was to be PPV and ended up some mix of PIV with some PPV "ala Kamol", depth was lost because of no proper training how to do dilation, supplied dilators are wrong shape and really do not fit the purpose, it is about 9 months now and I am still bleeding... and go on with this one...
3. Fat transfer is just a one big bad job and needs revision, lucky me they did not kill me there when they were injecting fat into my buttocks
4. Breasts are horrific and I need total replacement
5. HIFU face lift was just a waste of money, the guy was on his phone once doing it so ended up with one side of my face having different profile than the other side, it is just starting going back to normal now
6. Electrolysis was done so carelessly that I am left with permanent holes in my skin, some size of 1mm deep
7. Adam's apple was done OK but not as much as I would imagine, small reduction only - hey buy I did not lose my voice , what a luck!
8. FFS was not done because Dr.Kamol had some "mental moment" during the consultation (read my blog for more on this one)
9. Hair transplants - the total success but only because done by DHT clinic - not Kamol...

So I need 3 more operations, fix of SRS, fix of fat transfer, fix of BA.
I would suggest to consider other institutions once you are deciding where to go and get your procedures to be done.
One of my friends was there after me, her BA is messed up same as mine, one implant slipped down under the skin and is visibly below the other one (mega boobs again). This is quite horrific tbh... her SRS is total failure with optimistic 4" and significant bleeding. (I skip other people I know of with more or less of the same problems).
This is my final conclusion about this hospital, I need to fork out another 60000 dollars for fixes in the best option. This time I will be doing the ops locally, it is too risky to gamble on it again in Thailand, in the end I have only one life and Kamol assumed that I have 7 like a cat, plus I am money factory so they can skin me top dollar for a job which is below any acceptable standard. It seem to be normal in their case once they are dealing with Europeans. I wonder if they have some racial related issues here, too many of my friends were treated in the same way as I was.
So think twice, you have one body and one life.

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video he linked: https://youtu.be/PECV1zFsGDQ

He wrote a lengthy review of his experience at Kamol Hospital in Thailand...
Kamol Review blog [archive]
Quote from Kamol for all procedures he planned:

He actually thought that he was going to get a BBL, they didn't communicate to him pre-surgeries he couldn't have it at the same time due to recovery. He views this as part of the scam to get him there by promising the moon.

He had to quarantine in the hospital due to covid procedures, the room he was in had ants in the microwave

... later finds out no staff at the hospital gets COVID tested

before SRS he was given a lot of laxatives without toilet paper:


The recovery post dick removal is terrible:

he was given dirty supplies to shower with his still bleeding ax wound

post surgery pics

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the doctor tells him, as he is laying in bed on day 4 of recovery, to go out and buy "things like multivitamins, tramadol, etc" if he wants it. His hospital bed was so uncomfortable he moves to the couch:

dialating in the "dialation room" feels like putting a "hot iron ore" on his body. The dialation supplies are not disinfected, but rinsed with tap water

cleaning standard in the hospital:

he shows that he was promised that SRS will be "remarkably low pain"

The doctor's dilation instructions:

Doctor choosing his tits:

Tranny tries to demand information and states that he will not agree to further operations unless given more info...

But then he agrees to the operation anyway and they give him FF tits that he didn't want. then is charged even more for the operation so he doesn't die from blood loss:

The recovery is more painful than SRS and he loses 1.8L total of blood, he is later told by a doctor he could have died:

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Liposuction hole in belly button

Holes in his skin from electrolysis, pics 2 months later:

he is happy with his hair transplant but is milked for more money than quoted

At the end of this initial post he "doesn't think" he will return.

Update, he claims he is very happy with the SRS, and says the work is "incredible"

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Another update from September 26. He discovered lots of hair inside his canal and finds out that the doctor didn't do the type of surgery he expected:

He will need surgery to fix the hair issue. The "entire vaginal entry collapsed in" and the canal has "strange narrowing" in multiple areas. The "inner labia" "are separated at the entry and are hanging there like butterfly wings" -- causing him to get pee all over his ass when he tries to use the toilet. The wound is not "self lubricating" as promised, it is "as dry as the Utah desert." However, he is happy with the outer appearance.
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"Boobs are so far apart that it looks comical". he can't walk without wearing post-op bra and will need another surgery on this too.

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Finally he comes to the conclusion he wouldn't go there again:

Update November 9:
Implants still hurt and he will need them removed and redone, in his cock wound "the hair inside is cutting the back tissue so it is bleeding"

He shares that 4/5 people had similar experiences with SRS from Kamol, with the exception of 1 that he suspects is a plant or incentivized from Kamol:

 

[NotFatChild]

This AGP freak is one of my fav tiktok finds, here is his amhole necrosis video:

man face even with filters, lmao, lol even.

 

[Jon of the Dead]

The shit these people put themselves through is more gory then an Eli Roth flick.

 

[YourFriendlyLurker 2.0]

Armchair psychologists, I need help on this one. What would possess a mom to go on a quest to get her daughter a rot dog?

It's love done wrong. Many parents believe that loving their kids means following their every whims even when those whims are destructive as hell. From giving money to your NEET lazy slob of a son to taking loans for rotdog installation for your daughter. I hate to say it, but sometimes loving someone also means being ruthless to them instead of 24/7 ass patting.

 

[s0mbra]

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Armchair psychologists, I need help on this one. What would possess a mom to go on a quest to get her daughter a rot dog?

Probably got the "would you rather have a live son or dead daughter"/"I'm going to kill myself" schtick

 

[OttoWest]

There is a technique for neo vaginas using part of the colon to create the opening, rather than the skin from the penis. I believe that was the type Jazz Jennings had due to his penis being underdeveloped which happens to males given HRT as children and teenagers.

Jazz rejected colorectal vaginoplasty due to his concern of the fecal odor often associated with these types or surgeries. Jazz instead had a first-of-its-kind peritoneal graft. Three revision surgeries later (and counting) his doctor, Mark “Marci” Bowers, publicly admits it was a failure.

ETA @Positron’s informative recap