Tim Pool - 'journalist' who claims to be a sensible centrist & sucks Sargon of Akkad's wiener; Afraid of the Milkshake ANTIFAs

[anustart76]

I decided to tune in for a little bit, and Luke's making some ok points, but he's far too emotional. The problem with what Knowles is saying is that his argument is that "our censorship is good because we know it's good" and he said that almost verbatim. It's just that Knowles is a much more eloquent speaker.

Edit: Oh fuck off Tim. The retard cuts off an interesting discussion everyone else is involved in so that he can monologue about the Bar Stool Sports guy.

On tonight's episode of Timcast, Dailywire's Abed lookalike extolls the virtues of big government, Luke struggles to articulate an argument for a based position, and Tim (as usual) cuts off the conversation before it can get too interesting. Oh and Ian's there.

I'm actually impressed by Luke when he proudly calls himself a anarchist. It's really cringe and childish but he says it with glee

He's got some combination of Alex Jones and Michael Malice's politics but without the debate experience of either. Put Malice in his place and he might actually be talking circles around Knowles.

I have to say though, it's interesting to see how Tim usually calls himself "libertarian-leaning" or some variation of that and usually agrees with Luke, but as soon as someone bigger shows up, he's siding with the big government guy and arguing against Luke.

 

[Retink Retunk]

He's got some combination of Alex Jones and Michael Malice's politics but without the debate experience of either. Put Malice in his place and he might actually be talking circles around Knowles.

Malice isn't a particularly good debater, he's just a fun talker that brings up some good points. Someone like Tom Woods though might be be a good contrast as not only is he very rooted in the topic but he's a good contrast to someone like Knowles.

 

[Value Size]

Malice isn't a particularly good debater, he's just a fun talker that brings up some good points. Someone like Tom Woods though might be be a good contrast as not only is he very rooted in the topic but he's a good contrast to someone like Knowles.

Yeah from what I've seen Malice isn't a good debater, he's just massively overconfident in his views (and often debates people who are first class morons). I don't know where I stand politically but the past few years have made me really despise libertarians and anarchists.

 

[TheRaptorJesus]

He's back at it again I see.

Guys he totally doesn't live in the house that got broken in to, just stop! He just likes talking about it and totally doesn't live there! Its not where he REALLY lives, he'll only mention it every other video because he doesn't really live there.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Yeah from what I've seen Malice isn't a good debater, he's just massively overconfident in his views (and often debates people who are first class morons). I don't know where I stand politically but the past few years have made me really despise libertarians and anarchists.

Throwing government away is actually retarded, and the simple fact is most people don't want it. Government, for all its faults (US specifically), regulates corporations from becoming monopolies, sends murders to the chair, rapists to prison, settles civil grievances, and above all, protects from invasion.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Throwing government away is actually retarded, and the simple fact is most people don't want it. Government, for all its faults (US specifically), regulates corporations from becoming monopolies, sends murders to the chair, rapists to prison, settles civil grievances, and above all, protects from invasion.

Eh, I agree that people want government. I don't agree that it's doing the rest of its other duties though.

 

[tulskij_tochnyj]

He spergs about A BULLET LODGED by denizens/guards IN MUH KITCHEN again. I don't understand, are lockable doors and window grating banned in the US of A? That measures would've prevented illegal entry. And they're cheaper (liability wise) than firing live ammo left and right.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

He spergs about A BULLET LODGED by denizens/guards IN MUH KITCHEN again. I don't understand, are lockable doors and window grating banned in the US of A? That measures would've prevented illegal entry. And they're cheaper (liability wise) than firing live ammo left and right.

I see Tim failed at playing This War of Mine too. It's a big fallacy to get weapons when fortifying the house does a better job at a fraction of the resources. Then you build up to getting guns later.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Eh, I agree that people want government. I don't agree that it's doing the rest of its other duties though.

It depends on what level you're talking about. Idaho is not run like New York. Each state is designed to be a micro expirement. The most the feds ask from me on the day to day is taxes, which I can live with. And where I'm at, things are run very efficiently. They don't hassle me about my guns or my speech, all I got to worry about is a cop looking to make some money with speeding tickets. And until I see a Chinese fleet off the coast, I think we're doing a pretty good job at deterring a threat. Something that's almost impossible under anarchism; how the hell do you get a army together if you all are isolated in the woods?

 

[tulskij_tochnyj]

I see Tim failed at playing This War of Mine too. It's a big fallacy to get weapons when fortifying the house does a better job at a fraction of the resources. Then you build up to getting guns later.

He seems to know little about security in general or twists facts to fit his narrative. In the same vid Tim complained that private airports lack security and "anyone can hop over the fence and harm passengers". Well, Musk-level VIPs either have private security flying with them or waiting at the airport. Or both. Also, private airports will probably allow cars to park on tarmac so they can pick the VIP up once the plane lands.
All these ramblings makes me wonder if Tim's security team is going for a realistic threat model or simply fanning the flame of his paranoia to charge more money for "Presidential Security Suite Plus" with robodogs patrolling Cast Castle perimeter, real dogs searching for bombs, snipers on a rooftop, blood bags in a freezer, mom on a speed dial, body doubles and fleet of decoy vehicles.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Tim not even reporting on whether Ralph is dead. Why do I watch this scrub?

 

[Retink Retunk]

Yeah from what I've seen Malice isn't a good debater, he's just massively overconfident in his views (and often debates people who are first class morons). I don't know where I stand politically but the past few years have made me really despise libertarians and anarchists.

The benefit of Malice, and really any philosopher or historian, is that they're good for getting you to think about an idea, but they shouldn't be your gospel. I've read Malice's works and like watching his show, and while I recommend people at least read The Anarchist Handbook, I'd never claim him or anyone else have all the answers or even the best answers. People just need to stop worrying about having someone tell them what to think and take what others believe or say as simply one point of many that they can build on top of, regardless if that's by means of agreement or disagreement.

The other nice thing about Malice is he tends to be more pragmatic about his stance

I'm probably closest to the libertarian or anarchist belief system politically, but I can't stand most of the people who represent it. Too many of them try to act agreeable and it just makes the whole thing come off as idiotic. That or they do the complete opposite and try to be as inflammatory as possible, which also comes off as retarded.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

The benefit of Malice, and really any philosopher or historian, is that they're good for getting you to think about an idea, but they shouldn't be your gospel. I've read Malice's works and like watching his show, and while I recommend people at least read The Anarchist Handbook, I'd never claim him or anyone else have all the answers or even the best answers. People just need to stop worrying about having someone tell them what to think and take what others believe or say as simply one point of many that they can build on top of, regardless if that's by means of agreement or disagreement.



The other nice thing about Malice is he tends to be more pragmatic about his stance

I'm probably closest to the libertarian or anarchist belief system politically, but I can't stand most of the people who represent it. Too many of them try to act agreeable and it just makes the whole thing come off as idiotic. That or they do the complete opposite and try to be as inflammatory as possible, which also comes off as retarded.

My issue with anarchists has always been their drug friendly ideas. Drugs do nothing but cause problems for you and everyone around you. It's not conducive to a productive and functioning society for everyone to be high and drunk all the time.

 

[Retink Retunk]

My issue with anarchists has always been their drug friendly ideas. Drugs do nothing but cause problems for you and everyone around you. It's not conducive to a productive and functioning society for everyone to be high and drunk all the time.

I'm not a fan of drugs but if you've ever had a fuck up with a prescription medication and had the means to buy it but not the consent of a third party to allow you to buy said prescription, even if it has no recreational use, it becomes much easier to support accessibility to medical products.

Though really I think a lot of libertarians and anarchists mess up what's otherwise an easy to answer question, in that you can have drug free zones within an anarchist society if people group together and form those zones such as gated communities. That's always what's baffled me, is that everyone always tries to argue the lack of rules in anarchism, libertarianism, and capitalism but never really discusses the fact that it's a lack of rules from a universal authority, but individuals and groups still have the ability to form rules and regulations within their groups and property.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

I'm not a fan of drugs but if you've ever had a fuck up with a prescription medication and had the means to buy it but not the consent of a third party to allow you to buy said prescription, even if it has no recreational use, it becomes much easier to support accessibility to medical products.

Though really I think a lot of libertarians and anarchists mess up what's otherwise an easy to answer question, in that you can have drug free zones within an anarchist society if people group together and form those zones such as gated communities. That's always what's baffled me, is that everyone always tries to argue the lack of rules in anarchism, libertarianism, and capitalism but never really discusses the fact that it's a lack of rules from a universal authority, but individuals and groups still have the ability to form rules and regulations within their groups and property.

That's a hell of a lot more mature and reasoned response than I've gotten from any other anarchist. Well done.

 

[Niggernerd]

Going back to the Knowles episode.
I don't necessarily agree with Knowles idea of using government to shut down speech, but I agree there are ideas that are a detriment to civilization because they got us where we are today and Luke is playing stupid acting like there isn't.
The west allowed so much of this whacky bullshit to be planted and it spread into a monster rotting it more each day.
Why the fuck would we AMERICANS allow America a natural enemy to both fascism and communism continue to grow in the country. We literally fought tooth and nail against both. What I hate about lolberts and anarchist is they only ever use fascism as an example but never communism and quite frankly it just rubs me the wrong way because it's like an implication that one is worse than the other when they're both equally terrible for the country.
Luke knows full well what ideas Knowles was referring to but he's afraid to admit free speech absolutism is foolish.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

It depends on what level you're talking about. Idaho is not run like New York. Each state is designed to be a micro expirement. The most the feds ask from me on the day to day is taxes, which I can live with. And where I'm at, things are run very efficiently. They don't hassle me about my guns or my speech, all I got to worry about is a cop looking to make some money with speeding tickets. And until I see a Chinese fleet off the coast, I think we're doing a pretty good job at deterring a threat. Something that's almost impossible under anarchism; how the hell do you get a army together if you all are isolated in the woods?

Plenty of illegals crossing the border. That's an invasion.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

17:00 - I know that Tim has a tendency to repeat himself over multiple videos, but I'm getting kinda worried about the repeated "example" of grooming being a hypothetical white guy hypothetically convincing a hypothetical teenage girl to hypothetically model and then do hypothetical porn for him, hypothetically. Can the next swat team check this man's basement, please?

 

[anustart76]

The most the feds ask from me on the day to day is taxes, which I can live with.

That's the thing, it pisses libertarians off because your taxes are typically used to fuck with you, not your own benefit.

I'm not a fan of drugs but if you've ever had a fuck up with a prescription medication and had the means to buy it but not the consent of a third party to allow you to buy said prescription, even if it has no recreational use, it becomes much easier to support accessibility to medical products.

Though really I think a lot of libertarians and anarchists mess up what's otherwise an easy to answer question, in that you can have drug free zones within an anarchist society if people group together and form those zones such as gated communities. That's always what's baffled me, is that everyone always tries to argue the lack of rules in anarchism, libertarianism, and capitalism but never really discusses the fact that it's a lack of rules from a universal authority, but individuals and groups still have the ability to form rules and regulations within their groups and property.

Ron Paul has specifically pointed this out in the past. I've seen Tim mention it too.

17:00 - I know that Tim has a tendency to repeat himself over multiple videos, but I'm getting kinda worried about the repeated "example" of grooming being a hypothetical white guy hypothetically convincing a hypothetical teenage girl to hypothetically model and then do hypothetical porn for him, hypothetically. Can the next swat team check this man's basement, please?

He did it again during the live show tonight.

 

[WelperHelper99]

That's the thing, it pisses libertarians off because your taxes are typically used to fuck with you, not your own benefit.

I consider taxes the cost of doing buisness. The trade is simple: they take my money and then the government fucks off and builds aircraft carriers and roads. Is there corruption? Yeah. Should it be fixed? Absolutely. But we still need infrastructure, defense, nukes, things that a small group of people can't do. Those are my thoughts.