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Dylan
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As I have said earlier in this(or another thread infested with terfs) ftm are on the coom pipeline. They consume so much homosexual erotica it gets imprinted on them.
They start with yaoi, then try more hardcore versions of it, then move on to bara (this shit will fry your brains, so much bdsm and anal)
After that they begin consuming actual gay porn, not vanilla gay porn, but the kind where models are just meat. At this point the idea of having sex while being female doesn't sit right, they want taboo, they want forbidden fruit.
They start with yaoi, then try more hardcore versions of it, then move on to bara (this shit will fry your brains, so much bdsm and anal)
After that they begin consuming actual gay porn, not vanilla gay porn, but the kind where models are just meat. At this point the idea of having sex while being female doesn't sit right, they want taboo, they want forbidden fruit.
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I swear I am not making this up but can't find where I first read it. In japan a popular female japanese yaoi artist finally had sex and suddenly couldn't create yaoi anymore. anyone who can find the info please post it.
Also no mention of kirk/spock. That makes me so mad I might just chop my tits off.
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I have known multiple FTMs/female "non binary"s who are into shipping fandoms and read (and write) fanfiction about gay relationships.
When you look at fanfiction websites such as AO3, you will easily encounter many stories involving rape, incest, and pedophilia. Using Supernatural as a case study (over 250,000 total stories), we have thousands of stories classified as rape or pedophilia.
Most recent "underage" story:
On this site if you don't specifically exclude rape or pedo stories they will be included in all searches. any minor involved in these communities will easily find extremely depraved erotica without searching it out. AO3 is actually a completely free speech website.
this is certainly less purely sexual than male porn habits as they have emotional attachments to the characters. but as a porn addiction often results in AGP troonism, these women head down similar paths to more depraved and bizarre content.
An extremely popular fanfic trope is "Alpha/Beta/Omega Dynamics" in which characters are assigned societal roles based on sexual dynamics, which are inherent in someone's biology and manifest at puberty. these are very emotional and pornographic stories about men who physically crave cock (they go into 'heat' and the alpha often has a dick with a 'knot'.. and men also get pregnant. there is also often other animalistic traits incorporated or even bestiality.) chart from wikipedia, lmao:
So, they will spend hours reading these stories and putting themselves within the head of their favorite male character getting "knotted" in his pussy. (Then they will head over to tumblr or twitter with their fandom friends where being "queer"/trans is a protected and holy class and pretty much all conversation is about queer or feminist readings of the source material.)
Fandom troons (nearly exclusively female) also like to talk about how "Omegaverse" is very trans friendly and ~a subversive expression of the trans experience~ or some shit because of this.
Article example: https://cultivatefeminism.com/issue...-monstrosity-hannibal-omegaverse-fan-fiction/
I guarantee that the precursor to academic articles like this was a bunch of twitter and tumblr posts weeping about how omegaverse made them realize they were trans.
I see this as very much the female version of porn addicted AGPs.
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Welp you just converted me to misogyny.
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Oof! A damn shame too.
This lady is right too of course. It’s like with smoking or promiscuity or whatever.
These dumb teenage broads don’t think about how this shit will affect them in five or ten years. About having to keep a shitty part time job because they offer a health insurance that’ll save you thousands.
Never being able to go anywhere without hauling a small pharmacy with you.
Planning out every step of your life because you always need a rolling 30day supply.
Having something like a shortage throw your life in disarray.
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Damn I used to be into fanfiction culture back in the early 2000s when I was young. It was nothing like this at all; really tame. All regular hetero stuff and very little fetish stuff; just the typical girly romance shit.
In fact, I distinctly remember my favorites were stuff like 'spin the bottle' stories where you get to kiss the cute boy. Male/male shipping was pretty rare and was provided with a warning beforehand because it was so controversial you could get bombarded with hate comments.
Wtf happened? This seems to be a completely different world from the one I was in.
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What happened? Fanfiction got invaded, and people never graduated from it.
Shipping/fanfiction always used to be kinda like boy bands. A safe space young women and teenagers growing up could experiment and play in, while learning how to navigate the real deal. Basically a safe outlet for romance and sex.
Then fandom got invaded by people who never actually grew up, but just stayed in those spaces.
You said it yourself: You USED to be into it, because you grew up, and there’s something wrong with a woman in her late 20ies obsessing over vampire romances.
The weirdos took over the space, and filled it with the kind of fetish shit oozing out front their basements.
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True. I remember fanfiction being mostly tame stuff in the early '00s (like, mostly cute romance-oriented stories where the 'sex scenes' were, if they existed, two paragraphs full of purple prose ikea sex written by virgins, and with a somewhat balanced ratio of straight and gay (actually male/female written as 'gay'/yaoi) pairings, with some sprinkles of female pairings). And in the yaoi pairings, the writers thankfully never tried to delve deep into the mating mechanics, and used to put warnings beforehand.
I never was much into fanfiction, I was more into fanart and not couple-oriented fanart, but even there on Deviantart the situation was similar. There was no sheer or heavily implied pornographic content and the yaoi fangirls that were there used to be overwhelmingly into cute 'peek on the cheek' stuff (and identified as girls. How quaint). Even one of the most famous and laughably disgusting yaoi lolcow artist of those times, Snapesnogger (who used to have a looong page on Encyclopedia Dramatica), was a fucking saint compared to the average T-roided enby yaoi coomer of this day. I can hardly think of things more degenerate than Omegaverse AND THERE ARE HORDES of women, whose brain was rotten by gender theory and fantasy coom, who are producing and enjoying it.
I think genderspecial/troon philosophy, which spread like wildfire in those places, especially with the advent of Tumblr, had a direct hand in all of this. If your average fanfiction writer/fanartist of the early '00s could not have ever been into contact with homogendertroon theory, she would likely have stopped at more vanilla levels, graduated by having a real boyfriend/relationship and simply stopped being a fangirl much like children don't need pacifiers and diapers and extra wheels anymore as they grow up. But with the advent of genderspecial thought, their immaturity (which at their age is totally normal) is rectified as wisdom, their fears over the other and their own sex become an identity, and they are also told nothing sexually is ever off-limits or wrong (as long as it's not 'vanilla het' and there are no 'consent accidents', hehe, and after a while those aren't even important anymore). Thus the corruption of your average fangirl into a mpreg Omegaverse monster.
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And he STILL looks like a man
Sad, though. We have a walking, talking 'buyer beware' warning here (probably one of many) but it won't make a blind bit of difference. They'll be trying to be candid about the life they've signed up for and the other troons will accuse them of trying to talk people out of living their troo selves.
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I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this; I'm probably older than most people here (yikes!) and I have had a continuous internet presence since the mid-90's, and while I've never been into "fandom stuff" as such, I have been able to observe the development of it for a good 20+ years. M/M shipping stuff was definitely the dominant aspect, as compared to het, of many early 2000's fandoms like LOTR, Harry Potter, Pirates of the Caribbean and X-Men, and it wasn't hard at all to find stories with graphic sex scenes, or even blatant fetish writing.
However, I would say that one crucial difference between then and now was that fanfiction or "shipping" was not used as a political statement. The women who wrote the stories and congregated in these online spaces were mostly normal people with regular jobs and families. Genderblobs were unheard of, and the atmosphere was very much a "live and let live" (or "write and let write", and they wouldn't judge you for liking a certain pairing or disliking another. Maybe the anime fandoms were different (I wouldn't know; I never hung around in those spaces) and the rot spread from there.
EDIT: I think the really retarded behavior in "mainstream" aka not anime fandom spaces started with Twilight. And by retarded I mean blurring the lines between "online" and "IRL" identities, viciously attacking supporters of another 'ship, etc. Maybe it coincided with the emergence of Tumblr as a cultural phenomenon, but I definitely see a link there.
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Maybe I am remembering wrong. More graphic stuff existed if you were looking for it, but I remember the fluff/smut ratio being a lot higher for fluff than it is today. And yaoi pairings were pretty popular but the writers also had to constantly put disclaimers and 'you mind my own stuff and I mind mine' warnings. Surely there was nothing approaching the levels of degeneracy seen in Omegaverse stuff; mpreg writers, when they existed, were more like girls playing house but with two boys, they never went into super-detailed gross acts or scientific explanations for butt babies and they were regularly made fun of (I mean, who wouldn't?).
But my involvement in the fanfiction scene was very marginal, I just tried reading some fanfictions from the fandoms I was currently in, and I never really got into them because the quality for most was very low and soo many were multi-chapters. No time for that especially when the quality is low to begin with. So I may have missed the seedier elements; but the same would be impossible in today's fandoms, there are just too many.
One particularly pansexually horny fandom I had to detatch from was the Ace Attorney one. It already had proto-elements of the very political and costantly horny modern fandoms (blech).
Yup, the main difference is that gender theory going mainstream politicized everything in fandoms. Fangirls who were into yaoi had to become 'enby' or 'trans' if they didn't want to be gross straight girl cultural appropriators. And from there (the hatred for the normies) it is easier and easier to get caught into fantasy mpreg genderbending bestiality cooming.
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behindyourightnow
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To be honest I don't really get people here being upset about content on AO3, not when you're browsing a site like Kiwifarms. AO3 has always had a free-speech-maximalist ethos, so of course anyone who wants to write weird crazy stuff is going to do it there rather than anywhere else. And even though I despise anyone writing pedo shit, I think the people running the site correctly suspect that if they ever started cracking down on legal content for "moral" reasons, however justified, it would open a floodgate of SJW scolds demanding more and more censorship, and I do sympathize with that.
(Full disclosure, I know someone who is involved with OTW, which is the organization behind AO3, so I am familiar with the type of bullshit they fight off)
(Full disclosure, I know someone who is involved with OTW, which is the organization behind AO3, so I am familiar with the type of bullshit they fight off)
To make up for all the OT, here is a Tumblr story about someone's hospital experience post-phalloplasty. It is a long read but I promise it is worth it, if only to get to the "20cm long by 6cm wide by 4cm deep crater of necrotic tissue and spider webs [o]f slough."
No regrets, though! Sometimes you just have to focus on the positives and move past your wound dehiscence.
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That's the most true & honest story I've ever heard in my life. I have no doubts at all about how all that really went down.
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When she basically accuses the bacteria of being transphobic, you know you’re about to take a ride down the troon craziness pipe.
YourFriendlyLurker 2.0
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You can jerk off to whatever you want and still be a sane, functional human being. In Japan famous for its retardation in anime, the border between fantasy and reality is very strict, hence they do not have a troon problem.
Somehow this concept is totally lost in the west, where people basically start "living a fantasy".
Shit, if you only knew how I miss the blessed 2000-s where people could have been weird without mutilating themselves.
ps: personally I find this topic of evolution of fandom spaces into gender blob dens extremely entertaining but SRS thread is not the right thread for this sperg. Wish some more autistic and less lazy person would create a separate thread for that since many kiwis have things to share, so I see.
muhpronouns
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Wow thats a story. I am guessing the girlfriend is MTF and that they tried to use the girl's situation to get pain killers. Once they were caught hospital security kicked them out and the hospital alerted the local ER about these 2. Of course that is if any thing even close to this happened at all.
HERE YOU GO
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> popular japan yaoi artist
> has straight sex for the first time
> yaoi artist has been defeated
i remember back in the early 2000's a lot of asian artists went to jail for being caught drawing adult comics.
what ever happened to that?
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But they have an otaku problem which is way worse than the entire western weebsphere combined. Just because Nippon doesn't have a troon problem doesn't mean the border between fantasy and reality is strict. Remember the insane otaku who burned an anime studio to the ground and killed 36 people.
But yeah troons are rare in Nippon and so are genital butchers (they of course exist tho) because in Japan there is a thing called shame. Troon degeneracy is not a western phenomena but nip troons are pretending to be anime girls behind closed doors and cosplay comventions. There is no Sidbdbdbdbd who makes yeet teets tiktok videos, no Rumer, no Crane, no Bowers, no post after post about yet another rotting horror sausage. There is no glorification of genital mutilation in the media and child mutilation isn't celebrated and encouraged.
Der weiße Teufel
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I admit I'm not up to date anymore, but they do have a couple of famous MtF trans people (aka new half), which are usually gay and aware that they are male, though they might get SRS and everything. I remember seeing one (called Haruna Ai) often in random TV shows years ago, but "deadnaming" and showing old pics happened a lot and nobody was offended. Though that was a long time ago and it's possible it got worse in the meantime.
Which also applies to the western fandom conversation, when I was younger and in fandom spaces (when LJ was still a thing, before tumblr really took off), people were definitely more normal (I did not know any FTMs and nonbinary did not exist), a lot of popular fanfic was without any porn (or at least no kink shit) and mpreg was seen as weird. ABO only got popular later and since then it has only gone downhill from what I can see. Okay, there were still plenty of crazy people causing drama (RIP fandom_wank), but gender usually had nothing to do with it, and at least you were able to make fun of everyone.
Which also applies to the western fandom conversation, when I was younger and in fandom spaces (when LJ was still a thing, before tumblr really took off), people were definitely more normal (I did not know any FTMs and nonbinary did not exist), a lot of popular fanfic was without any porn (or at least no kink shit) and mpreg was seen as weird. ABO only got popular later and since then it has only gone downhill from what I can see. Okay, there were still plenty of crazy people causing drama (RIP fandom_wank), but gender usually had nothing to do with it, and at least you were able to make fun of everyone.