Pissing all over yourself and not even changing your pants or at the very least your boxers, so very manly! Also every man holds their penis in a chokehold to pee, completely normal.
So feminine of her. It sounds like she's forcing it too.... and she still pisses her pants, ew. I just don't get what these girls are getting out of this except pain. I can only imagine it doesn't feel painful to chokehold it since most of these rotdogs die and have virtually no sensation.
Got another troon that went with Dr. Maud Belanger of Montreal, Quebec. Troon's name is sexilexii21 (A)
11 months post op.
There's not much to say besides it is basically a stretched asshole, only other way to describe it is...tree bark. All the troons LOVE this amhole though. He took a lot of pics and you can see hair growing in on some. Most of the other pics were his ass, maybe he thinks it looks nice like his front butt does.
The troons give the usual hugboxing comments of saying it is beautiful
AkikoArashi
Freaking beautiful.
melenaza
Beautiful and very good result! May I ask you who is your surgeon? Thank you for sharing.
sexilexii21
My surgeon was a female doctor name Dr. Maud Belanger of Montreal, Quebec. Canada She was awesome.
melenaza
Thank you very much!
Tazer_Squeak-Squeak
That is honestly the most beautiful post op picture I've seen in a while. You don't even see the scars on either side of the vulva. I am envious of you, I am still yet to even talk to a surgeon about bottom surgery.
So feminine of her. It sounds like she's forcing it too.... and she still pisses her pants, ew. I just don't get what these girls are getting out of this except pain. I can only imagine it doesn't feel painful to chokehold it since most of these rotdogs die and have virtually no sensation.
Got another troon that went with Dr. Maud Belanger of Montreal, Quebec. Troon's name is sexilexii21 (A)
11 months post op.
There's not much to say besides it is basically a stretched asshole, only other way to describe it is...tree bark. All the troons LOVE this amhole though. He took a lot of pics and you can see hair growing in on some. Most of the other pics were his ass, maybe he thinks it looks nice like his front butt does.
The troons give the usual hugboxing comments of saying it is beautiful View attachment 4396468
AkikoArashi
Freaking beautiful.
melenaza
Beautiful and very good result! May I ask you who is your surgeon? Thank you for sharing.
sexilexii21
My surgeon was a female doctor name Dr. Maud Belanger of Montreal, Quebec. Canada She was awesome.
melenaza
Thank you very much!
Tazer_Squeak-Squeak
That is honestly the most beautiful post op picture I've seen in a while. You don't even see the scars on either side of the vulva. I am envious of you, I am still yet to even talk to a surgeon about bottom surgery.
From the comments and the video it seems like most of these people think it's perfectly normal for men's penises to leak piss out all over their underwear.
Alot TIFs weird penis fascination really confuses me when it seems like they don't even know what they look, feel and pee like. It seems like all of them are botched to the point where leaking a little piss onto yourself is treated like a good result.
They are always crying about how "cis people are obsessed with what is in our pants". Its not like you all keep it to yourselves. Never pass up an opportunity to flash your mutilated crotches to anyone on the internet.
They are always crying about how "cis people are obsessed with what is in our pants". Its not like you all keep it to yourselves. Never pass up an opportunity to flash your mutilated crotches to anyone on the internet.
Yeah, it’s ironic coming from someone who claims men can have vaginas and women can have dicks, yet spends hundreds of thousands of dollars to “correct” their genitals. How transphobic of these weirdos.
Here's a TiF complaining about post-op TiFs being intolerable assholes. Link | Archive
Men should be gentle to eachother
I'm feeling really despondent about how rough a lot of guys in the phallo community are on each other (not just this subreddit). This is such a hard path for anyone, and we all likely have difficult mental health challenges due to our experiences in life. I know everyone is hurting, tired, emotionally drained or just done with it all, and I'm sure many post-op guys are here because they also want to help others by contributing, but getting snappy at others, being sarcastic, talking down to others or dropping indelicate truth bombs on pre-op guys is just the sort of stuff that makes me want to ditch the phallo guys and go hang out with my communities who prioritise kindness. Yes the trans are particularly traumatised, and yes we get compassion fatigue a lot due to the constant need in our community, but dumping on other people who are also in pain, feeling lost, and those who are possibly very emotionally fragile... We can do better, right?
All those years before surgery, the raw pain of dysphoria was almost too much to bear at times, so it breaks my heart seeing someone who is clearly in that place of desperation, reaching out just to feel a glimmer of hope for a moment, then a post-op guy who's been in the trenches swoops in to snatch away the hope-lifeline. My life philosophy is that I'm better off dead than living to become unkind, so if turning into a mean old butthole is a risk factor I needed to consider, I might not have started.
(Disclaimer: obv not all, and probably just a minority of people act this way)
Looking at you d00leys!
I found this response particularly enjoyable.:
Agree.
Anecdotally, a majority of the post-phalloplasty patients I have spoken to have come across as the most insufferable and condescending people I have met within the trans community. You’d think people would be kinder after finally reaching peace with their bodies. No one is forcing you to be here answering questions.
I understand the compassion fatigue and downright disrespect post-op men receive, but you don’t have to have a chip on your shoulder while interacting with others who want to be educated on the subject.
Please archive. I've been unable to post for awhile but I've seen a drop in archiving from everyone. Bookmark this site https://archive.ph/ and use it when you post.
If I was a woman with fucked up hormones that just fucked their entire life so that they could live as a beta male with a fake retard dick that constantly dribbles piss in my underwear, I'd probably be a real jerk.
So feminine of her. It sounds like she's forcing it too.... and she still pisses her pants, ew. I just don't get what these girls are getting out of this except pain. I can only imagine it doesn't feel painful to chokehold it since most of these rotdogs die and have virtually no sensation.
Got another troon that went with Dr. Maud Belanger of Montreal, Quebec. Troon's name is sexilexii21 (A)
11 months post op.
There's not much to say besides it is basically a stretched asshole, only other way to describe it is...tree bark. All the troons LOVE this amhole though. He took a lot of pics and you can see hair growing in on some. Most of the other pics were his ass, maybe he thinks it looks nice like his front butt does.
The troons give the usual hugboxing comments of saying it is beautiful View attachment 4396468
AkikoArashi
Freaking beautiful.
melenaza
Beautiful and very good result! May I ask you who is your surgeon? Thank you for sharing.
sexilexii21
My surgeon was a female doctor name Dr. Maud Belanger of Montreal, Quebec. Canada She was awesome.
melenaza
Thank you very much!
Tazer_Squeak-Squeak
That is honestly the most beautiful post op picture I've seen in a while. You don't even see the scars on either side of the vulva. I am envious of you, I am still yet to even talk to a surgeon about bottom surgery.
Weird how what tranny men think is a great result is basically scooping everything out until the front is almost concave, leaving just a slit and a fuckhole. That’s the “perfect pussy”, to them. Says it all, really.
I'm feeling really despondent about how rough a lot of guys in the phallo community are on each other (not just this subreddit). This is such a hard path for anyone, and we all likely have difficult mental health challenges due to our experiences in life. I know everyone is hurting, tired, emotionally drained or just done with it all, and I'm sure many post-op guys are here because they also want to help others by contributing, but getting snappy at others, being sarcastic, talking down to others or dropping indelicate truth bombs on pre-op guys is just the sort of stuff that makes me want to ditch the phallo guys and go hang out with my communities who prioritise kindness. Yes the trans are particularly traumatised, and yes we get compassion fatigue a lot due to the constant need in our community, but dumping on other people who are also in pain, feeling lost, and those who are possibly very emotionally fragile... We can do better, right?
All those years before surgery, the raw pain of dysphoria was almost too much to bear at times, so it breaks my heart seeing someone who is clearly in that place of desperation, reaching out just to feel a glimmer of hope for a moment, then a post-op guy who's been in the trenches swoops in to snatch away the hope-lifeline. My life philosophy is that I'm better off dead than living to become unkind, so if turning into a mean old butthole is a risk factor I needed to consider, I might not have started.
(Disclaimer: obv not all, and probably just a minority of people act this way)
Looking at you d00leys!
I found this response particularly enjoyable.: View attachment 4398944
Agree.
Anecdotally, a majority of the post-phalloplasty patients I have spoken to have come across as the most insufferable and condescending people I have met within the trans community. You’d think people would be kinder after finally reaching peace with their bodies. No one is forcing you to be here answering questions.
I understand the compassion fatigue and downright disrespect post-op men receive, but you don’t have to have a chip on your shoulder while interacting with others who want to be educated on the subject.
Please archive. I've been unable to post for awhile but I've seen a drop in archiving from everyone. Bookmark this site https://archive.ph/ and use it when you post.
This is clearly a joke right? I dont wanna check in case its real. Im just gonna assume i missed out on it when it was a popular meme er sumn, and im just late to the party.
I used to call the Thai vaginoplasties "the abyss" because they all have that distinct look of a gaping hole, more than the others. Interesting that that seems to happen even with different methods
also, unrelated to above, but something I was wondering after seeing someone on here mention that surgeons commonly use tissue for (normal) womens labia, if some is needed for reconstructive surgery to the lips on the face- and the fact that they been doing buccal harvests for the hotdog urethra- why dont they use the tissue from the vaginectomy?
This 2017 article (coauthored by our thread regular Curtis Crane) even concludes "vaginectomy is associated with a significant decrease in urethral stricture and fistula formation, most likely because vaginectomy affords additional horizontal urethroplasty suture line coverage of labia minora flaps with vascularized vestibular tissue". (Bear in mind, they had a pretty low sample size and small time for follow up tho) It's kinda weird that they don't really mention that to the patients tbh
Anyway, here's a collection of gnarly pictures I found showing it!
(First an explanation of the anatomy terms used, with a handy drawing
Fig. 1. The urethra in female-to-male transgender patients is composed of three parts: (1) the native female urethra (green); (2) the fixed/horizontal urethra (red), which requires urethroplasty reconstruction; and (3) the neophallus urethra (blue), which is part of phalloplasty design. Note the sharp angles the urine stream must make at the proximal (native to horizontal urethra) and distal (horizontal to neophallus urethra) urethroplasty lines. These are areas of particular mechanical stress.
Urethroplasty with vaginectomy.
(Above, left) Preoperative appearance of the vestibule in a patient taking hormone therapy.
(Above, center) Markings for labia minora flap urethroplasty.
(Above, right) Release of the dorsal urethral plate, freeing the native female urethra.
(Center, left) Complete demucosalization, fulguration, and closure of the vaginal canal.
(Center, center) Incision and mobilization of labia minor flaps.
(Center, right) Urethroplasty of labia minora flaps around a catheter.
(Below, left) Completed urethroplasty with labia minora flaps.
(Below, center) Vascularized bulbospongiosus flaps are mobilized to cover the urethroplasty suture line.
(Below, right) The bulbospongiosus muscles are sutured together for complete urethroplasty suture line coverage
Fig. 1 Vaginectomy: a Lone Star retractor with harvest of anterior and posterior vaginal wall mucosa. b Externalization of anterior vaginal wall flap. c Resection of apical aspects of vaginal mucosa
Fig. 2 Urethral lengthening: a Lateral incisions are made adjacent to urethra. b Tubularization of vaginal mucosa around Foley catheter for urethral lengthening. c, d Closure of the labia minora
And finally those two make a two stage version, where the girl carries around her flap inside her leg/abdomen for months:
(A) The pedicled mucosal flap was used for urethral lengthening. (B) The free vaginal mucosa was sutured and placed within the anterolateral thigh flap to form the prelamination urethra. (C) The penis was reconstructed and the “skin bridge” was retained. (D) The “skin bridge” was mobilized to form a double pedicled flap;anastomosis under the coverage of the double pedicle flap.
Here's a detailed look into the original version:
Fig. 1 a Mucosa, together with the uterus and adnexa, were cut and removed from the vaginal tunnel. b The pars fixa neourethra was elongated using the anterior vaginal flap which was indicated by the right part of the black line, while the left part
of the mucosa would be cut to preconstruct the pars pendulans neourethra. The upper black arrow indicated the location of the new urethral orifice. The lower black arrow indicated that the clitoris was freed and would be denuded and buried subcutaneously. c A single piece of full-thickness vaginal mucosa would be sutured mucosa-inward around a drainage tube to form the pars pendulans urethra. d Multiple pieces of the mucosa would be sutured together to form the pars pendulans urethra. e The average length of the mucosal tube graft was 13 cm (12–14 cm)
(a pre-surgery pic of the poor sucker carrying the flap tube inside her, plus the finished phallus
Fig. 2 24-year-old patient. a Frontal view following the first-stage operation. The prefabricated pars pendulans urethra located at left lower abdomen with a drainage tube in it. The blue lines indicated the superficial courses of the superficial iliac and epigastric arteries. b Preoperative designs of phalloplasty. A rectangular-shape 13 × 11 cm flap was designed for phallus shaft. The prefabricated urethra was located in the inner one-third part of the flap, and a 4 × 4 cm round flap was designed on the distal part of the urethra to fabricate the glans. The black arrows indicated the prefabricated urethral orifices. c The pedicled flap was transposed to the pubic region, and the prefabricated urethra was anastomosed with the advanced urethral orifice. The abdominal donor-site was sutured directly. d Lateral view during voiding 24 months following the second-stage operation
Fig. 3 22-year-old patient. a A pinch thickness of skin tissues was 3 cm in thigh. b The tubed vaginal mucosal graft was introduced into the tunnel in the right anterolateral region of thigh. The black arrows indicated the penetrating points of the two skin perforators. c Preoperative design of phalloplasty. A rectangular-shape 12 × 10 cm flap was designed for the phallus shaft, and a 7 × 5 cm flap was designed on the distal part of the urethra to fabricate the glans. The black crosses indicate the penetrating points of the two skin perforators. d The anterolateral thigh flap passed through the tunnel under the rectus femoris and sartorius muscles on its vessel pedicle. e The pedicled flap was transposed to the pubic region, and the prefabricated urethra was anastomosed with the advanced urethral orifice. f Lateral view during voiding 18 months following the second-stage operation
And now the updated method:
(A) The design of the flap in the second-stage operation. (B) The flap was incised 2 cm away from the perineal end of the prelamination urethra. (C) The flap was raised and transposed to the pubic region, leaving the “skin bridge” between the C and D meatus. (D) The excess scar tissues around C and D meatus were marked and ready for resection. (E) The “skin bridge” was mobilized at the subcutaneous level by blunt dissection to form a double pedicled flap. (F) The double pedicle flap was pulled up with a rubber sheet, and the C and D meatus were subcutaneously sutured under the double pedicle flap. (G) The double pedicle flap was sutured intermittently with the skin of C and D meatus, respectively.
Does anyone with more of an autist's aptitude for this research fancy finding out what u/LondonGeeze was talking about, regarding hip bone drilling for her rotdog stiffener?
Fuck that reminds me of that poor worker of Japananese nuke station that was dying from the acute irradiation but the doctors just kep bringing him back. Horrific stuff.
His name was Hisachi Ouchi (extreme graphic pic in link):
Ouchi is considered the first fatality of his kind in Japan, perhaps the only person to ever receive such a huge amount of radiation in such a short amount of time. The amount of radioactive energy that he was exposed to is thought to be equivalent to that at the hypocenter of Hiroshima atomic bombing. The immensity of radiation completely destroyed his body, including his DNA and immune system. According to the book A Slow Death: 83 Days of Radiation Sickness, “[N]one of Ouchi’s chromosomes could be identified or arranged in order.”
After suffering patiently for a week, Ouchi suddenly cracked. "I can't take it any more. ... I am not guinea pig".
His words shocked the physicians and nurses in charge of his treatment. Was this the time to shift the focus from cure to palliative care? Even if a case could be made for persevering a bit longer, what purpose could possibly have been served by resuscitating him on the 59th day, after his heart stopped three times for a total of 49 minutes?
This was a man whose chromosomes had been destroyed. "[N]one of Ouchi's chromosomes could be identified or arranged in order." Ouchi's body was destroyed from the inside out.
It was a slow, painful and presumably unpreventable death. Surely the doctors should have been able to recognize very early that he could not be saved.
With some of the dumb fucks having their butchers staple bits of their colon into the shape of a rotpocket, I wonder if there have been any cases of colon cancer in amholes.
There are a few actually, but a lot of them get cancer years later (like, around 30 years later, here's a case where it happened 53 years after construction) so most of the documented cases are of women with vaginal agenesis or cancer that had neovaginas installed, not SRS
The penile inversion crowd can also get cancer, there are a few different case reports of mtfs (seems to be increased risk for HPV positive patients). Again, it's rare and seems to usually happen more than a decade later, so we will probably start getting a ton of more cases now!
This one is kinda hilarious tho (even though it technically doesn't fit since it wasn't the neovag that got the cancer):
Pelvic surgery after male to female sex reassignment implies a particular surgical approach: firstly, anatomic variations during resection can be considerable; secondly, although genital reconstruction is an essential target for patients, it is a difficult operation especially after chemoradiation. We present a case of a transsexual patient who underwent a partial pelvectomy and genital reconstruction for anal cancer.
You can’t really see the scaring, but as always the butcher just chopped Fucking EVERYTHING making him look as flat as a board. Somehow FTMs don’t seem to realize that men in fact have chests and chest fat too.
Tbh the most telling part of the gynecomastia surgeries posted earlier was that the surgeons there only took the extra fat, but didn't leave the dude flat like ftms
This may come off as powerleveling but I just want to say; as a boy I admired doctors, medical staff, nurses, and paramedics. I dreamed of one day becoming one. Helping heal the hurt, cure the sick or maybe going into the research field. My grandmother once said she might be looking at the next Jonas Salk (who saved her life 40 years prior with the pollio vaccine.) She died long before that could be so. Now...as an adult among many other reasons that dream has died. But in some ways I no longer weep for it.
Why? Because seeing what passes for "medical science" all these years later. Instead of searching for a way to cheap and effectively cure terminal illness like cancer, preserve the human DNA structure to impede the aging process, perfect cryogenic stasis so those in cryogenic sleep can be awakened and we can start freezing patients that aren't already at death's door. Convert the human mind into pure digitized data or clone the mind and body so one could switch the old dying body for a brand new one. What are we doing?
We are tearing down long standing scientific facts related to genes and DNA, we are rewriting the very nature of what it means to be human. We say that there is no discernable difference to the male and female body and mind when there clearly is.
worst of all we are mutilating adults and in some cases children. Into...imitations of the bodies they weren't born into. Cutting people open and mutilating them hacking off parts, and sewing ones on that don't belong. Violating the hippocratic oath to do no harm and to protect as a healer.
I'd rather be nothing, than live in a world where butchers can wear the garb of healers and call themselves "life savers." Because they chopped up bodies and reinforced the delusions of the deranged and degenerate.
My friend, you must come to understand that the dream of human immortality and transhumanism by mechanical proxy is another facet of the broader ideology that includes the dream of transexuality.
Don't want to derail with a big old medical ethics debate but I think it is important to consider the ideological roots of this cultural phenomenon so that you can recognise other branches of the tree when you see them. It is my sincere belief that you can trace all of this denial and dismissal of the realities of the body back to a failure to come to terms with death and the finitude of human life. There have been different copes through history — from the Christian immortal soul to Cartesian mind/body dualism to today's conceptions of a seperate-from-body consciousness or "inner/true self" — but in the end, the cope always distracts from the same fear.
Also @sanguis draconis cant reply but wow what a window into the crazed minds of srs surgeons. For some reason the vaginectomy process just really horrifies me, call me crazy but I just don't think that rearranging the pelvic floor muscles is conducive with good long term outcomes. I'm no expert, though!
No man, and i mean NO MAN holds their dick like that to piss.
In one of the comments she basically says she doesnt feel the urge to go anymore that probably contributes to the piss smell, as well as the fistula, death grip, the sub-par urethra, and anything she might actually be too embarrassed to mention online.
And then another guy asks if she can still apply pressure/force to the stream, but idk if shes a regular and at one point mentioned that she puts her thumb over the opening like a water hose or if it was just a general question related to the fact that she cant really feel when she has to go anymore. Either way, all of that sounds horrible and i dont doubt that it becomes something that they all seriously regret having done as time goes on.
I also really like the two chicks that basically say "meh, not impressed"; youd think ol' d00fus wouldve deleted those by now haha.
Transgenderism is the singular example of the sunk cost fallacy.
I want a study where they suspend increasingly heavy weights to rotdogs to determine scientifically the breaking strain and maximum load weight of one.
For science.
that’s seven inches of extra urethra that needs to be made for a FtM. It’s a lot, and I hadn’t even considered the fact that’s in the pic @sanguis draconis posted which is that the shape that urethra needs to take to get out of the body via the rot dog has multiple bends in. That creates turbulence, possible pooling in the body, and mechanical strain.
These women tugging and pulling at the structure can’t help either. The male bladder is also positioned a bit further up in the body if I recall right - the female one is lower wrt the Pubic bone. So the urine is having to flow almost horizontally whereas in a male there’s a slight downwards bend? Is this why men have stronger urine streams as well, to overcome that longer path and non vertical drop? A woman’s bladder naturally just voids downwards - the urethra is short, and the path is almost vertically down.
Things you’d never even considered #43748
It’s no wonder they have urine pooling, strictures and fistulas.
Also every man holds their penis in a chokehold to pee, completely normal.
She was awesome.
that probably contributes to the piss smell, as well as the fistula, death grip, the sub-par urethra, and anything she might actually be too embarrassed to mention online.
