Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Fapcop]

that’s seven inches of extra urethra that needs to be made for a FtM. It’s a lot, and I hadn’t even considered the fact that’s in the pic @sanguis draconis posted which is that the shape that urethra needs to take to get out of the body via the rot dog has multiple bends in. That creates turbulence, possible pooling in the body, and mechanical strain.
These women tugging and pulling at the structure can’t help either. The male bladder is also positioned a bit further up in the body if I recall right - the female one is lower wrt the Pubic bone. So the urine is having to flow almost horizontally whereas in a male there’s a slight downwards bend? Is this why men have stronger urine streams as well, to overcome that longer path and non vertical drop? A woman’s bladder naturally just voids downwards - the urethra is short, and the path is almost vertically down.
Things you’d never even considered #43748
It’s no wonder they have urine pooling, strictures and fistulas.

You know, it’s almost as if male and female bodies are fundamentally different, have numerous small but vital differences, and everything is honed over millennia of evolution to work well with each other.

Given how many troons are into STEM shit, you’d think they’d understand why you can’t just take a transmission from a Ford and duct tape it to a Toyota and expect everything to work great.

 

[Got Milk!]

that’s seven inches of extra urethra that needs to be made for a FtM. It’s a lot, and I hadn’t even considered the fact that’s in the pic @sanguis draconis posted which is that the shape that urethra needs to take to get out of the body via the rot dog has multiple bends in. That creates turbulence, possible pooling in the body, and mechanical strain.
These women tugging and pulling at the structure can’t help either. The male bladder is also positioned a bit further up in the body if I recall right - the female one is lower wrt the Pubic bone. So the urine is having to flow almost horizontally whereas in a male there’s a slight downwards bend? Is this why men have stronger urine streams as well, to overcome that longer path and non vertical drop? A woman’s bladder naturally just voids downwards - the urethra is short, and the path is almost vertically down.
Things you’d never even considered #43748
It’s no wonder they have urine pooling, strictures and fistulas.

So what I'm hearing is some entrepreneurial individual should make a VR table. Imagine something like a massage table a tranny lays on, sticks their "dick' through a hole so it's facing directly downwards and there's a VR headset that makes them think they are standing. It would solve their retarded STP fantasies and eliminate the need to milk themselves as the flow would be more anatomically correct.

Or I'm just retarded as fuck. Definitely one of those things.

 

[Jon of the Dead]

They are always crying about how "cis people are obsessed with what is in our pants". Its not like you all keep it to yourselves. Never pass up an opportunity to flash your mutilated crotches to anyone on the internet.

They're so vain and shallow they make what's in their pants the whole sum of who they are.

 

[Kitty kitty cat]

Pissing all over yourself and not even changing your pants or at the very least your boxers, so very manly! Also every man holds their penis in a chokehold to pee, completely normal.

Spoiler: NSFW: Local archive of the piss video

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That freak was shaking her gross ass peetube in the vicinity of her poor cat. Wtf Maam.

 

[Otterly]

Given how many troons are into STEM shit,

This is an interesting point, and it links back to something I’ve thought for a while. Science is being replaced by this weird scientism. Facts are now overridden by cult like dogma and this is a good example. Everybody knows humans can’t change sex and there’s only two human mating types. Everyone. Babby needs man and woman. Everyone knows this. Tribes woth zero eduction knew this in the Stone Age. Animals know this. Yet nobody will say it out loud and we have to pretend all this shit. Then the next generation actually believes it.
The other weird belief is this ‘plug and play’ mentality, as though the body is a video game character you can switch bits out on. Sex organs are not character skins but people treat them like they are.
I’ve noticed this coincides with a dramatic drop in the number of people entering the field who have any real intellectual ability. It’s like their brains are neutered, and their ability to think of how biology actually works is impaired. Biology is a field that works with complex systems. Possible the most complex in many ways. Yet troonery is like a microcosm of all the bad ways science is corrupted. So they may be into stem but none of them are really understanding the spirit of enquiry, challenge and complexity it entails

 

[YourFriendlyLurker 2.0]

This is an interesting point, and it links back to something I’ve thought for a while. Science is being replaced by this weird scientism. Facts are now overridden by cult like dogma and this is a good example. Everybody knows humans can’t change sex and there’s only two human mating types. Everyone. Babby needs man and woman. Everyone knows this. Tribes woth zero eduction knew this in the Stone Age. Animals know this. Yet nobody will say it out loud and we have to pretend all this shit. Then the next generation actually believes it.
The other weird belief is this ‘plug and play’ mentality, as though the body is a video game character you can switch bits out on. Sex organs are not character skins but people treat them like they are.
I’ve noticed this coincides with a dramatic drop in the number of people entering the field who have any real intellectual ability. It’s like their brains are neutered, and their ability to think of how biology actually works is impaired. Biology is a field that works with complex systems. Possible the most complex in many ways. Yet troonery is like a microcosm of all the bad ways science is corrupted. So they may be into stem but none of them are really understanding the spirit of enquiry, challenge and complexity it entails

Spoiler: offtop sperg on intellectual abilities

The more and more I notice how people polarize basing on intelectual abilities and what they call a knowledge. In future we are gonna have a small elite minority of scientists, people of good intelectual abilities, good attention spun, able to perceive large and in-depth chunks of information and actually understand that the world is a very nuanced and complicated thing. And the rest would be just way below average - people with no real knowledge of any subject at all, able to digest only TickTock vids and twit-seized tests. For them it's always gonna about quick dopamine, easy solutions, and of course cult mentalities which encompass it all. And anyone daring to say a word against their cult it's nazi, libshit, terf, ad nauseam you know the drill. The troons are just one of the most autistic and loud group among many, but I totally believe that's the trend.

Also, I do not delude myself regarding where I personally belong to lol.

 

[EverlyB]

They are always crying about how "cis people are obsessed with what is in our pants". Its not like you all keep it to yourselves. Never pass up an opportunity to flash your mutilated crotches to anyone on the internet.

When people see an arm scar in the wild, it's a sickeningly graphic tell of what's in someone's pants.

 

[I Hate Anime Avatars]

This is an interesting point, and it links back to something I’ve thought for a while. Science is being replaced by this weird scientism. Facts are now overridden by cult like dogma and this is a good example. Everybody knows humans can’t change sex and there’s only two human mating types. Everyone. Babby needs man and woman. Everyone knows this. Tribes woth zero eduction knew this in the Stone Age. Animals know this. Yet nobody will say it out loud and we have to pretend all this shit. Then the next generation actually believes it.
The other weird belief is this ‘plug and play’ mentality, as though the body is a video game character you can switch bits out on. Sex organs are not character skins but people treat them like they are.
I’ve noticed this coincides with a dramatic drop in the number of people entering the field who have any real intellectual ability. It’s like their brains are neutered, and their ability to think of how biology actually works is impaired. Biology is a field that works with complex systems. Possible the most complex in many ways. Yet troonery is like a microcosm of all the bad ways science is corrupted. So they may be into stem but none of them are really understanding the spirit of enquiry, challenge and complexity it entails

I think part of the reason for this is that there are so many people now coming into science because they think it's cool and trendy or because they think it will validate their beliefs (or more likely a background in science will give their beliefs validity in the eyes of the world, though whether they will admit this to themselves is another question), not because they have any kind of genuine talent or enthusiasm for the scientific process itself. They see science not as a worthwhile pursuit in itself but as a means of proving the "wrong" opinions (i.e. anything that dosen't align with the far left) wrong. These people have no analytical talent or enthusiasm for problem solving. Their way of thinking is fundamentally unscientific, they start with a conclusion and look for any evidence that supports it and if they don't find it they bend and twist the results until they do or just move onto another topic. One of the most eye opening experiances to me was shortly after starting college I attended a lecture about good scientific practice, how to set up a reliable and repeatable experiment and how to properly interpret data etc. And everyone else absolutely hated it. Afterwards talking about how useless the advice was, how dissapointing it would be to not get the results you expected and wanted, how homeopathy was totally real and could never be bullshit. They idea that when you make an unorthodox claim it is on you to find evidence to support it, not everyone else's responsibilty to disprove it was completely alien to them.

 

[rodentia]

Crazy lady does things with her rotdog that no man could (or would!) do with an actual penis.

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The comments are about on par for these wacky broads:
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“OMG! Such a PRETTY dick! Where’d you get it?!”

“Teehee so whimsical! Very manly!”

it doesnt hurt because that isnt a penis and you arent a man. god the cringe of seeing this freak grab and twist the "head" like that, thatd be agonising on the real thing.

 

[Autistic Faggot]

I wonder what Kim Petras is doing now that he is 30?

oh...he is still a cripple and can't move his legs properly.

But hey at least is still in great shape and has a female body!
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But his head and face...!
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Damn. He hit the wall HARD. I remember when everyone was using him as 'proof' that trannies can pass as women. Was never true btw but the only reason they even thought that was because of the complete lack of male puberty + skinny twink body. Now he's fat, botched, and is going to be fully crippled before he hits the next decade of his life. Feelsbadman

 

[Slideshow Bill]

This is an interesting point, and it links back to something I’ve thought for a while. Science is being replaced by this weird scientism. Facts are now overridden by cult like dogma and this is a good example. Everybody knows humans can’t change sex and there’s only two human mating types. Everyone. Babby needs man and woman. Everyone knows this. Tribes woth zero eduction knew this in the Stone Age. Animals know this. Yet nobody will say it out loud and we have to pretend all this shit. Then the next generation actually believes it.
The other weird belief is this ‘plug and play’ mentality, as though the body is a video game character you can switch bits out on. Sex organs are not character skins but people treat them like they are.
I’ve noticed this coincides with a dramatic drop in the number of people entering the field who have any real intellectual ability. It’s like their brains are neutered, and their ability to think of how biology actually works is impaired. Biology is a field that works with complex systems. Possible the most complex in many ways. Yet troonery is like a microcosm of all the bad ways science is corrupted. So they may be into stem but none of them are really understanding the spirit of enquiry, challenge and complexity it entails

"I Fucking Love Science" type of nerd poseurs whose idea of science never evolved passed third grade, Bill Nye shit. To them science isn't painful truths or grueling research or large battles to reap small rewards but whatever they saw in a video game or 80s sci-fi movie (troons are massive consoomers after all).

 

[Oilspill Battery]

Post-op people have made it clear they don’t want their bodies referred to as “results” or implying that some are “good” or others are “bad.”

I genuinely cannot see a way of interpreting this other than they deserve the doctors they defend.

 

[batteredpancakes]

TiF realises that the "yellow discharge" leaking out of her phallus is actually piss. u/inkyspartoi

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freaking out

so i've been sitting down to pee because i have fistulas, but since a stream has been coming down from my penis i thought that some urine was coming out of the tip, except the last couple days i've realized basically nothing is coming out of the actual urethra, only the fistulas. i don't know how long this has been going on. trying to press a finger on the fistulas to force urine to come out the tip does nothing, it just makes urine spray to the side. what i thought was yellow discharge was actually urine leaking out of the fistulas. i feel so stupid for not realizing any of this was happening. i don't know how badly i've fucked things up for myself and so i'm just sitting here waiting for the surgeon to respond to my emails and freaking out.

"i feel so stupid for not realizing any of this was happening. i don't know how badly i've fucked things up for myself"​

She's going to be saying this a lot more as time passes.

She made another cope post about this a few days back (this was archived by someone but I don't remember seeing it here)

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complication depression

so im about a month and a half post phallo and i have wound separation, a really stubborn fistula and possibly a stricture(most of the urine comes out of the fistula). i have an appt tomorrow with the surgeon so hopefully itll all get figured out, but it's still been frustrating to have to always have gauze on the wound separation(which caused another problem, if i dont wear medical underwear the gauze falls out the second i stand up, but any medical underwear small enough to keep the gauze in place squished my dick so when the wound separation mostly healed, it healed squished and now has creases in the skin), i can't STP, and just generally i'm kind of tired of being sick.

i feel bad complaining about all this or constantly being irritable and depressed bc im the only post-op trans person that like anyone in my life knows, and i don't want to make them think i regret having phallo. i don't! i like my penis, even though its got this stupid goddamn hole in it that won't fucking heal, and i know that this is a temporary problem. it doesn't help that i don't really have gender euphoria. phallo basically did exactly what i thought it would, it just got rid of my bottom dysphoria, which is great, but mostly presents as relief and not having to think about x thing anymore, which isn't very visible to other people. im worried that people just see me complaining about my complications and shambling around depressed and are getting the wrong impression, yknow?

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[Fapcop]

TiF realises that the "yellow discharge" leaking out of her phallus is actually piss. u/inkyspartoi
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freaking out

so i've been sitting down to pee because i have fistulas, but since a stream has been coming down from my penis i thought that some urine was coming out of the tip, except the last couple days i've realized basically nothing is coming out of the actual urethra, only the fistulas. i don't know how long this has been going on. trying to press a finger on the fistulas to force urine to come out the tip does nothing, it just makes urine spray to the side. what i thought was yellow discharge was actually urine leaking out of the fistulas. i feel so stupid for not realizing any of this was happening. i don't know how badly i've fucked things up for myself and so i'm just sitting here waiting for the surgeon to respond to my emails and freaking out.

"i feel so stupid for not realizing any of this was happening. i don't know how badly i've fucked things up for myself"​

She's going to be saying this a lot more as time passes.

She made another cope post about this a few days back (this was archived by someone but I don't remember seeing it here)

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complication depression

so im about a month and a half post phallo and i have wound separation, a really stubborn fistula and possibly a stricture(most of the urine comes out of the fistula). i have an appt tomorrow with the surgeon so hopefully itll all get figured out, but it's still been frustrating to have to always have gauze on the wound separation(which caused another problem, if i dont wear medical underwear the gauze falls out the second i stand up, but any medical underwear small enough to keep the gauze in place squished my dick so when the wound separation mostly healed, it healed squished and now has creases in the skin), i can't STP, and just generally i'm kind of tired of being sick.

i feel bad complaining about all this or constantly being irritable and depressed bc im the only post-op trans person that like anyone in my life knows, and i don't want to make them think i regret having phallo. i don't! i like my penis, even though its got this stupid goddamn hole in it that won't fucking heal, and i know that this is a temporary problem. it doesn't help that i don't really have gender euphoria. phallo basically did exactly what i thought it would, it just got rid of my bottom dysphoria, which is great, but mostly presents as relief and not having to think about x thing anymore, which isn't very visible to other people. im worried that people just see me complaining about my complications and shambling around depressed and are getting the wrong impression, yknow?

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“I have to pretend to be happy because I can’t let people know I regret it and they were right!”

Phallo surgeries are really the elite level of Sunk Cost Fallacy, aren’t they?

 

[Charred Dinosaur]

"i feel bad complaining about all this or constantly being irritable and depressed bc im the only post-op trans person that like anyone in my life knows, and i don't want to make them think i regret having phallo. i don't! i like my penis, even though its got this stupid goddamn hole in it that won't fucking heal"

Literally every single time without fail a troon appears to be in a state worthy of pity they immediately say something that proves they deserve to wallow in their current state and more.

In this area you have to give troons some credit as there are a handful of serial killers who later on came to realize what they did was beyond evil after which they did what little they could to seek forgiveness, ultimately just making it depressing to read about all parties involved. Trannies on the other hand will one second tell you how miserable their mutilation has made them and the next not hesistate to recommend the same procedures to new initiates as the perfect snake oil cure for their maladies. Say what you want about troons but you have to admit it takes real talent to make people sympathize with the likes of Jeffrey Dahmer easier than they do with you.

 

[batteredpancakes]

“I have to pretend to be happy because I can’t let people know I regret it and they were right!”

Phallo surgeries are really the elite level of Sunk Cost Fallacy, aren’t they?

This is why I quite admire post-op detransitioners. It takes an impressive amount of courage to admit you were wrong and others were right. Especially when you've gone so far that it's irreversible and unhideable.

I do wonder how many transpeople are really out there who do regret it. We know of course many will regret as the years go by, but I wonder if there's already a huge amount that could topple the movement if they just swallowed their pride and spoke up. Maybe the ones who are brave enough to admit regret are a very minuscule percentage compared to the cowardly. I often feel most the post-op's in r/phallo regret the surgeries and they're just pretending to be happy. Fear of embarrassment is a strong emotion.

I know there's a large subset of detransitioners who have not 'socially detransitioned'. It's a whole thing on detrans subs. That fact that some will acknowledge regret and wish to return to their biological sex but be prepared to stay trans for life to avoid the embarrassment and shame from having to tell their families, friends, surgeons, etc that they made a mistake.

These people have really placed themselves in their own little hell.

EDIT: I've just had a epiphany. All that anger and bitterness from trannies "if you don't date me you're a bigot" etc is just a manifestation of regret and resentment for everybody else. They're like vengeful mass shooters but too cowardly to be that productive so they just spend their time yelling and demanding things from everyone. They've been tricked into mutilating themselves and are bitter at the world. In their view, everybody owes them. That's why they demand things.

 

[The Hoh Rainforest]

I think part of the reason for this is that there are so many people now coming into science because they think it's cool and trendy or because they think it will validate their beliefs (or more likely a background in science will give their beliefs validity in the eyes of the world, though whether they will admit this to themselves is another question), not because they have any kind of genuine talent or enthusiasm for the scientific process itself. They see science not as a worthwhile pursuit in itself but as a means of proving the "wrong" opinions (i.e. anything that dosen't align with the far left) wrong. These people have no analytical talent or enthusiasm for problem solving. Their way of thinking is fundamentally unscientific, they start with a conclusion and look for any evidence that supports it and if they don't find it they bend and twist the results until they do or just move onto another topic. One of the most eye opening experiances to me was shortly after starting college I attended a lecture about good scientific practice, how to set up a reliable and repeatable experiment and how to properly interpret data etc. And everyone else absolutely hated it. Afterwards talking about how useless the advice was, how dissapointing it would be to not get the results you expected and wanted, how homeopathy was totally real and could never be bullshit. They idea that when you make an unorthodox claim it is on you to find evidence to support it, not everyone else's responsibilty to disprove it was completely alien to them.

These people remind me of the young earth creationist geology Phds that used to pop up in the atheist/skeptic news circuit, back when those groups seemed like a good idea to a young rainforest. The embalmed corpse of science is the new religion, they see current theories and knowledge as scripture and received wisdom, not the most recent draft in our attempt to understand the world. Like you said, they don't see science as a pursuit, a process, a tool, they see it as a series of knowledge endpoints that they have to believe to be virtuous people, lest they be cast out of the group.

Spoiler: depression sperging re future of science

The pursuit of science, ideally requires someone to spend years breaking their brain and re-forming it in a very specific way. It requires learning to reflexively reject your common sense instincts about the way the world works and demand evidence, identify and squash emotional and motivated reasoning, and ignore social norms regarding questioning other's assertions. It doesn't always stay at work, and sometimes you're the cunt at the party arguing about everything and your family is screaming at you because they've had it up to here with the "well actuallys". You could spend a lifetime on a theory that is wrong, and you're expected to abandon decades of investment and ego in the face of new evidence; that's the ideal to aspire to anyway. Because science as a process can't work unless the only thing that matters is the pursuit of the truth, not how you feel about wasting a career on failed hypothesis, or who the most recent draft of the truth might offend. And worst of all, you have to be prepared to tell a friend, in a published article, in front of the whole world, that they are wrong and they spent their life chasing meaningless correlations. This mindset seems to be slipping even with the old guard, as one by one the scientific institutions are infected with moral clarity by the young, and the ego-driven olds figured out they never had to admit they're wrong if they throw enough "-ism" shade on their skeptics.
The new people coming up do not seem capable of the old way of scientific thinking. They have been taught from their first anti-bullying class that feelings matter over fact and the worst thing you can do is question someone's lived experience or demand evidence for a claim if it's delivered with sufficient emotion. How can you doubt, debate, question if you have been taught from grade school that to hurt someone's feelings, to harm their ego, is the equivalent to violence and might make them kill themselves? They believe that the color, sex, gender of the speaker determine the truth of the speech, and cannot be questioned, even with empirical evidence, even if the speaker is ultimately harming themselves and others with false belief. Zero-tolerance policies starting in elementary school have instilled a terror of acting against authority, of not following the rules, of having the wrong opinion (a different opinion than those in authority). The early education system has experienced mission creep, like every other public institution seeking to "do good", they seek to perfect the human condition by creating a New Man, one without the ability to think bad thoughts or do bad things, who is "kind" above all else. They have succeeded, they created Americans paralyzed by ruinous empathy, unable to disagree for fear of offending, who are useful for nothing except what they are told to do.

 

[Fapcop]

Absolutely amazing what these crazy broads consider “no biggie”.



“Teehee… I will leak piss the rest of my life, but it’s ok! Oh, and I only have ONE HAIR growing inside my urethra, but it looks REALLY GOOD guise! Oh yeah, I’ll bleed when I pee sometimes, but the doc said it’s nothing to worry about!”

If there is one thing that always gets me reading phallo posts it’s when they talk about “milking urine” FFS, I shudder every time.

 

[Procrastinhater]

That freak was shaking her gross ass peetube in the vicinity of her poor cat. Wtf Maam.

I saw one with an Ayden in the bath waving her Rotdog around and her cat was looking at it like it was ready to smack it out of her hand. I would laugh my ass off if the cat just slapped it and the thing just ripped right off and went skidding across the bathroom floor with the ManlyDudeBroKing having to run after it before the cat got it.

 

[FreakyFredsTrannyGranny2]

I often feel most the post-op's in r/phallo regret the surgeries and they're just pretending to be happy. Fear of embarrassment is a strong emotion.

If Dooleys didn't have a gun to their heads 24/7, I imagine they'd vent their frustrations and intense regret endlessly. No one is allowed to know you exist unless you memorize Dooleys' bible of sociopathic rules which decide if your life experience is worth anything.

I think embarrassment takes a back seat, as more regret posts are popping up which are swiftly (and passive-aggressively) removed by mods. The girls only want someone to understand, comfort and relate with them, just like any other frightened girl would. Such an isolated social life. Silly broads.