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Mom Cancels Her Daughter’s Sweet 16 Because She Was Bullying Other Kids
Sounds reasonable, right? Little did I know I would be rooting for the daughter by the end...

"...my husband and I were called into a meeting at Madison’s school. We were surprised to discover that Madison was suspended for her involvement in aggressively bullying a transgender classmate, "Kelly"...not only was Madison involved, but she was the ringleader of a group of girls in her grade that bullied her. There were texts of Madison telling Kelly that she would never be a real girl and asking if she still had a penis. There were plans in the private group to pull Kelly’s pants and underwear down in the middle of the cafeteria to “prove” that she was a man. I also found posts on her social media where she referred to transgender women as “perverts” and “troons” (I am not sure what this means) and said that they would never be women.

John and I were disgusted by Madison’s behavior. We raised our children liberally and consider ourselves LGBT allies, and Madison in particular has always been an outspoken feminist like me. "
AITA for cancelling my daughter’s Sweet 16 after I discovered her behavior at school?

My husband "John" (45M) and I (41F) have a daughter, "Madison" (16F). Ever since she was little, Madison dreamed of having the perfect 16th birthday party. Since Madison had always been well-behaved, we decided that we would throw Madison the birthday party of her dreams. We both have financial stability, so cost wasn’t an issue. We put months of planning into this party.

Madison’s actual birthday was on Monday, and we had a small family dinner at her favorite restaurant to celebrate since her actual birthday party was scheduled for three weeks from now. Everything was perfect until Wednesday, when my husband and I were called into a meeting at Madison’s school. We were surprised to discover that Madison was suspended for her involvement in aggressively bullying a transgender classmate, "Kelly", who had recently attempted to do something that I’m not allowed to say on this post. I’m ashamed to admit that I didn’t believe it at first, but after I forced Madison to show me her phone so that her father and I could look through her texts and social media, I was shocked to discover that not only was Madison involved, but she was the ringleader of a group of girls in her grade that bullied her. There were texts of Madison telling Kelly that she would never be a real girl and asking if she still had a penis. There were plans in the private group to pull Kelly’s pants and underwear down in the middle of the cafeteria to “prove” that she was a man. I also found posts on her social media where she referred to transgender women as “perverts” and “troons” (I am not sure what this means) and said that they would never be women.

John and I were disgusted by Madison’s behavior. We raised our children liberally and consider ourselves LGBT allies, and Madison in particular has always been an outspoken feminist like me. When we got home from the meeting, we talked it over and decided that not only would Madison have no electronics for the rest of the year, but we would be cancelling her party too. We wouldn’t get the money back for the venue and most of the arrangements we made already, but we decided that this is what needed to be done.

We informed Madison of our decision yesterday and she lost it, telling us that we were terrible parents for cancelling her Sweet 16 over a "boy" and that we were punishing her for speaking her mind when it wasn’t her fault Kelly did what she did. She begged us not to cancel it and said that this was her dream, but I told her that her behavior didn’t warrant having the party of her dreams. She went back to her room crying. We thought we did the right thing, especially when we told our two older daughters, but when we called John’s mother "Shannon" and told her that the party would be cancelled and why, she called us awful parents for crushing her dreams this way. Now we’re having second thoughts. AITA?

In the comments:

NTA. You said that she considers herself a feminist, has she been reading up on TERF posts? It could explain her transphobic rhetoric.
OP: I did see the word TERF used on some posts but I’m not sure what it means.

*Note: TERF means "Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist." An advocate of radical feminism who believes that a trans woman’s gender identity is not legitimate and who is hostile to the inclusion of trans people and gender-diverse people in the feminist movement. Troon is a combo of Trans and cartoon or Trans and goon.

Nta, her behavior requires canceling her party.
I would not be opposed to more punishment as she has dug her heels in and doesn't think her behavior needs to change. Relieve her of that notion.

OP: What else would you suggest? We have already taken her electronics away and don’t plan to give them back until next year. I mean next year as in a full year from now. Sorry for the confusion.

Find a therapist who can talk to people who have been sucked in by cults. Because if she is using words like 'troon', she is deep in this hate cult.
OP: Thank you. It does seem cultish. We absolutely plan to start her in therapy and are looking into it right now.

As far as I know, the other girls have all been suspended, too. I think that Madison’s suspension is longer because she was the ringleader, but I’m not sure. And yes, we are banning her from ever spending time with those friends again. Thank you.

1st Update in r/TrueOffMyChest

My daughter said that she wishes I was dead.

My daughter "Madison" (16) began therapy last week to address her behavior. She organized a bullying campaign against a classmate and posted harmful social media posts for context. She has not been adjusting to therapy well because she believes that she did nothing wrong, and this has resulted in arguments between her, myself and my husband. If anything, I think this has caused her to double down on her behavior.

This morning we got into an argument because I discovered her trying to steal her confiscated cellphone from my husband’s office. I took the phone back from her and plan to put it in his safe along with our other valuables, but she threw a fit when I took it and started to scream at me that she hates me and wishes I were dead.

I have plans to tell Madison’s therapist, but I’m distraught by what happened. I keep sobbing and even woke my husband up from how loud I was. I never thought that one of my children would say this to me. I don’t know where I went wrong but I feel like a fool for not noticing this behavior sooner

2nd Update

UPDATE: My daughter said that she wishes I was dead.

Previous post

I wasn’t going to post an update but I felt that I owed it to all of the people who responded to my previous post.

I’m sorry to report that "Madison" has only doubled down on her behavior in the weeks since my last post. She’s now refusing to talk to me unless it’s about dinner or to bully me into handing over her electronics. She has started at a new school this semester because we wanted to keep her away from her victim and the friends that she organized the harassment with, and she hasn’t adjusted to it well. As far as I know she has made no friends yet, but my husband "John" and I are refusing to transfer her back to her old school and this frustrates her. We also refuse to give her electronics or social media back to her, and it will stay that way for the rest of the year. Unfortunately, she blames "Kelly," the girl that she bullied for everything that’s happened, and it seems to have made her hatred for her worse. She has said a lot of derogatory things about her including slurs, so John and I have discussed with her therapist about enrolling our daughter in a LGBT sensitivity workshop aimed at teenagers. We have also discussed taking her to see a psychiatrist, and we have an appointment made for Tuesday.

I wish I could say that things have improved, but my husband and I have formed a plan to get my daughter the help she needs. I hope to be back again with a more positive update next time

3rd Update in r/asklgbt

What steps can I take to help my daughter realize that her actions were wrong? She was active in “TERF” communities and aggressively bullied a transgender classmate.

I posted about this on r/AmITheAsshole (since removed) and r/TrueOffMyChest, and a user from r/TrueOffMyChest privately messaged me and recommended that I post on this subreddit for advice. My apologies if this doesn’t belong here, please tell me if I should remove it. If you are triggered by mentions of violence, suicide attempt, sexual harassment and transphobia then I recommend moving to a different post.

My husband "John" and I have always considered ourselves to be LGBT allies, and have raised our kids to support LGBT rights as well. However, we recently discovered that our daughter "Madison" (she is 16) was the ringleader in a violent bullying campaign against "Kelly," a transgender classmate that sadly attempted to take her own life as a result of the bullying. After looking through Madison’s text messages and social media, we were disgusted to find texts of her harassing Kelly, asking if she still had her genitals and telling her she would never be a “real” girl like her. There were also plans between her and the other girls involved to pull Kelly’s pants and underwear down in the school’s cafeteria. We also discovered that she was active in “TERF” communities on various websites, and posted hateful messages calling transgender women perverts and trying to “prove” that they aren’t “real” women.

Obviously we are taking this very seriously. Her sixteenth birthday party was cancelled. We’ve pulled Madison out of her old school an enrolled her in a different one, her phone and electronics have been taken away for a year, she has started therapy and we have made an appointment with a psychiatrist. We also plan to sign her up for an LGBT sensitivity workshop aimed at teens. However, Madison has only doubled down on her behavior. She doesn’t seem to show any remorse over what she did and what happened to Kelly, because she thinks she did nothing wrong, and she hasn’t taken well to therapy or her new school. She has also attempted to steal her electronics back from my husband and I. I am trying to stay hopeful that the new environments will be good for her, but I am worried. So I decided to come to you all.

What else can I do to make Madison realize the gravity of what she did? She has had no social media or phone for almost two months now, but she is still very stuck in the “TERF” mindset. Are there any resources available on how to deter this mindset? I’m unsure of what else to do aside from what we have planned, but I have seen people say that TERF is a gateway into other dangerous beliefs.

In the comments:

Have you asked her what her preoccupation with Kelly is? Why is she so obsessed with this trans kid, and how did that lead to her being on hate groups?
OP: I did try to ask her this, why she’s so occupied with this girl’s identity, but she told me that I wouldn’t understand why. I’ve been hoping that therapy would cause her to open up more, but since the current therapist doesn’t seem to be working I’m going to consult with my husband and try to find a new one.

I did also try and get her to see the gravity of the situation by telling her that she took part in something that caused another girl to try and take her own life, and that things would be different if Kelly’s attempt had been successful. She told me that she didn’t care. I don’t know how else to make her see how serious this is.

Why do parents resort to taking cellphones, wifi, playstation, etc. You're making it worse
I'm 32 btw reliving my parents tactics from reading your post.

OP: I took my daughter’s electronics because she used electronics to spread bigotry and hate against the classmate she bullied and LGBT people. It also helped her to organize the bullying campaign with her friends. I’m sorry that you have terrible memories associated with your parents but I fail to see how it’s relevant here unless you also used social media and group chats to harass another classmate to the point where she felt the need to try and take her own life.

I can’t imagine how stressful this must be for you & everyone else involved. The online TERF indoctrination is real and I feel like that’s likely what happened here. I think you’re taking all the right steps. I don’t have much advice but I think it’s important to try and figure out what feelings led to her turning to these beliefs. The TERF community in particular often preys on young girls who feel helpess in a misogynistic society or who have been victimized by men. If you look into it you’ll see many of them have experienced trauma at the hands of men & see trans women as trying to invade their women-only safe spaces to victimize them further. Obviously not an excuse for their beliefs but that is often where it starts. Therapy is definitely the way to go, to get to the bottom of this … I was resistant to therapy in my teens but my parents just kept at it and eventually I opened up.
OP: Yes, it’s been very stressful for me and my husband. Thank you for the advice. I wasn’t aware of that but I will try and get to the bottom of how she got indoctrinated into those spaces. It has been going on for a while at least because we found over six months worth of posts. We plan to continue with therapy.

Commenters recommended various articles, videos and groups. OP said she would be looking in to all of these suggestions and possibly trying a new therapist.
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I don't condone bullying a clearly troubled kid, but I think these girls are in part responding to the fact that their parents aren't protecting them from MTFs.
 
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(For context, some pals and I used alts to to fuck with this tranny and then I used my main to “extract the salt” so to speak.)
So what's the play, January wanker, come around and post about your gays ops (all totally real of course) so then people can point to your posts and say "See? KF does manipulate the excrement!"?

edit: what the fuck is up with that worldfilter, lads
 
@Free the Pedos

The parents sure couldnt resist stressing what good progressives they are: transwomen are 100% Women and how their feminism centers males. TERFs are dangerous terrorists, unworthy of rights...while the same Reddit communities cover up all the crimes transwomen do.

We have enough evidence from Males of Reddit and troonytoons showing just how these people think. There are so many subreddits like Witches vs Patriarchy that openly say that being pro woman is anti trans.

They love calling us cultists, while believing the most ridiculous shit. It's always fucking projection.

The parents care so much about their own standing they don't bother to ask why the daughter is lashing out. Of course the poor Troon is the victim, guaranteed he didn't do anything wrong. Cue all the twitter tears and how women don't deserve their own spaces.
 
BASED TEACHER TROLLS TROON!

Who of course reacts in a manly and stoic way.
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Really peak masculinity here!

To absolutely nobody’s fucking surprise, her profile is chock full of self harm, mental illness subreddits and… Sims!

If anyone is interested you might dig up some lols there.
 
@Free the Pedos

The parents sure couldnt resist stressing what good progressives they are: transwomen are 100% Women and how their feminism centers males. TERFs are dangerous terrorists, unworthy of rights...while the same Reddit communities cover up all the crimes transwomen do.

We have enough evidence from Males of Reddit and troonytoons showing just how these people think. There are so many subreddits like Witches vs Patriarchy that openly say that being pro woman is anti trans.

They love calling us cultists, while believing the most ridiculous shit. It's always fucking projection.

The parents care so much about their own standing they don't bother to ask why the daughter is lashing out. Of course the poor Troon is the victim, guaranteed he didn't do anything wrong. Cue all the twitter tears and how women don't deserve their own spaces.

I find it odd that she keeps referring to her daughter’s dad as “my husband” instead of “her father”. The word father is used only once in the first post, which makes me wonder if this lady remarried or something.

No wonder the daughter’s doubling down. This only shows we’re living in clown world.

Edit: also lol. That troon should be feeling very gender euphoric, it’s basically a girlhood milestone to be bullied by the popular girls at school!
 
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I find it odd that she keeps referring to her daughter’s dad as “my husband” instead of “her father”. The word father is used only once in the first post, which makes me wonder if this lady remarried or something.

No wonder the daughter’s doubling down. This only shows we’re living in clown world.

Edit: also lol. That troon should be feeling very gender euphoric, it’s basically a girlhood milestone to be bullied by the popular girls at school!
We talked about this post a few pages ago. General consensus is it's quite possibly fake bait. The only reason it might be real is there's no ~happy ending uwu~ like most ToTaLlY rEaL story.
 
I don't condone bullying a clearly troubled kid, but I think these girls are in part responding to the fact that their parents aren't protecting them from MTFs.
I'd actually really love to know how this turns out. As you said, pulling this kid's pants down in school isn't really OK, but part of me wonders whether 'Kelly' has done some creepy shit and/or we're only getting one side of the story.
 
Political correctness is communist propaganda writ small. In my study of communist societies, I came to the conclusion that the purpose of communist propaganda was not to persuade or convince, not to inform, but to humiliate; and therefore, the less it corresponded to reality the better. When people are forced to remain silent when they are being told the most obvious lies, or even worse when they are forced to repeat the lies themselves, they lose once and for all their sense of probity. To assent to obvious lies is in some small way to become evil oneself. One's standing to resist anything is thus eroded, and even destroyed. A society of emasculated liars is easy to control. I think if you examine political correctness, it has the same effect and is intended to.

-Theodore Dalrymple
Stop believing your eyes and ears you stupid Somatics. Unquestioningly believe us Leftists who possess Gnosis.
 
BASED TEACHER TROLLS TROON!

Who of course reacts in a manly and stoic way.
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Really peak masculinity here!

To absolutely nobody’s fucking surprise, her profile is chock full of self harm, mental illness subreddits and… Sims!

If anyone is interested you might dig up some lols there.
I still don't get why kids are just not ok with simply being goth or emo anymore. why do they need this shit in their life.
 
We talked about this post a few pages ago. General consensus is it's quite possibly fake bait. The only reason it might be real is there's no ~happy ending uwu~ like most ToTaLlY rEaL story.
You just reminded me of something. Pulling down someone's underwear is sexual harassment, no matter who it happens to. This would've showed up in local media because every single Troon would be bringing it up as proof of how evil TERFs are (and no doubt big pages like Juniper and Katy Montgomerie are talking about it). Charges would be filed. Kate Strangio would be there.

You make a viral post on that and never discuss the criminal aspect? Suspicious.
 
Fucking Troons calling anyone "Cultists" is ironic as hell considering they behave exactly like fucking Slaaneshi Cultists themselves.
Lol ironically enough, the Warhammer 40k community is rife with coombrained troons. Just this week there was a fujo TIF shitting up the Warhammer meme subreddit with Adeptus Mechanicus rape yaoi.
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This is her response to ppl complaining about her spamming rape yaoi on several Warhammer subreddits. And mean gay male "TERFs" telling her that she cant be a femboy because she's... y'know... female.
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Not that it stops her from constantly posting thirst traps.
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I thought Tavistock is to be replaced by a gaggle of community clinics, i.e. no more big troon factory, but many towns would have services for deluded parents who want an opposite-sex child?

That was the story at the time. The funny thing is that Twitter TRAs were in denial and arguing that the closure was a good thing because more clinics were being opened to handle high demand. I posted about it at the time.

By the way, this tweet by thread favorite @brynismyname has now been quietly deleted:

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The thing is that now it is looking like it's even worse it first appeared for the TRAs, since the other centers might not even happen (or will be delayed so long they might as well not happen)

The idea that resources should be devoted to people "confused" (totally not influenced by other weirdos) about gender is ridiculous. It's the same reason why trans charities are laughable. You really gonna choose to donate to some gender weirdos over starving children, cancer research or shit like docs without borders?

From what I have been hearing from inside Bongland the NHS is in extreme crisis and people are dying waiting for ambulances, but sure, let's devote truckloads of money and staff to the perennially important "cutting autistic girls' tits off" cause.
 
You just reminded me of something. Pulling down someone's underwear is sexual harassment, no matter who it happens to. This would've showed up in local media because every single Troon would be bringing it up as proof of how evil TERFs are (and no doubt big pages like Juniper and Katy Montgomerie are talking about it). Charges would be filed. Kate Strangio would be there.

You make a viral post on that and never discuss the criminal aspect? Suspicious.
It sounds like they hadn't actually pulled his pants down yet, but they were planning on it. If this is a true story, then that's absolutely abhorrent behavior on the girls part, even just planning on it. I don't care who you are humiliating someone that badly is fucked up. It's the kind of thing kids kill themselves over, and there would be a good cause to argue that the girls were legally responsible.

But, the lack of any reference to the criminal aspect - even a hypothetical one - is sus.
 
Jesus Fucken Christ this zombie abomination with an Oz accent has shaken me to the core.
that's absolutely abhorrent behavior on the girls part, even just planning on it. I don't care who you are humiliating someone that badly is fucked up. It's the kind of thing kids kill themselves over
GOOD. Fuck troons at every age. Bring back bullying. Get these sick fucks in the larval stage. These girls are simply respecting reality. They don't want to grow up in this gross shit we call "kindness" which is anything but.
 
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