Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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I've never used one but I see several problems with she-wees:
- the stream is not pressurized, it will drip
- more of the genital area will be wet with piss than when urinating normally
- if the pants are up with only the device sticking out, all the remaining piss will soak into the underwear (and pants) when the device is removed - gross
- if the pants are down, there's more risk of getting piss onto them when not using a urinal or toilet bowl
- the device will need cleaning afterward; if placed into the case without cleaning it first, piss will get all over the outside of the device
- rinsing the device in the handwashing area, where other people wash their faces, is gross and can incite outrage; it will out the user as a troon in the men's

Women for whom standing up to pee is the most important thing in life should reconsider and go learn paragliding or something.

I'm going to be honest here. Standing to pee as a woman isn't THAT hard. If you've ever had a back injury or surgery where you could get move you figure it out quickly with satisfactory results and also save thousands on wound care and emotional damage of having your rotted arm dong posted on the farms
 
Prompted by Tony Reed I wondered if I could easily find people who were children when they had phalloplasty. I quickly found one, u/genericusername4582 in the US, and then another, u/zh_Lad in Switzerland, who has actually been featured in this thread before:
Zh_Lad is apparently a 17-year-old Swiss girl who has now had bottom surgery... Wtf, these butchers just keep pushing the line!

Anyway, genericusername4582 doesn't seem to have appeared here before, perhaps because she had her surgery 10 years ago in 2013. She's posted quite a lot so I thought I'd write it up. (No dick pics, unfortunately.) She mentions having a Tumblr blog but won't link to it.

She had a hysterectomy, and then 3 months later RFF phalloplasty performed by Curtis Crane in San Francisco, aged 17, in 2013. Apparently she was Crane's second phalloplasty.
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How old were you when you had first stage of phallo? : phallo (archive)
zh_Lad said:
17 stage 1, had stage 2 6 weeks ago at 18 and now im done :))
genericusername4582 said:
Dope, I thought I was the only person that had it at 17!

And on her introductory post on r/18plusftm. Intro : 18plusftm (archive)
genericusername4582 said:
I’m 27, starting transitioning at 14, stealth since age 16, and have been finished with medically transitioning since I was 18 (T, top, hysto, phallo). … I’m a biochemist working in preclinical research. … I’m glad other subs stay open to minors because I would have greatly benefitted from them when I was young and early transition, but I also think a place like this is also great to have.

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genericusername4582 said:
Those aren’t hard limits. I had both hysto and phallo at 17. Phallo was right before my 18th birthday and hysto was like 3 months before that. It took an awful lot of fighting with insurance and medical professionals backing me up. I only started transitioning at 14 but I had therapy records documenting my gender dysphoria back to age 11.

I only had one stage for phallo as well with everything but erectile device and testicular implants. I still haven’t had that and I’m not really sure if I ever will.

Despite me being unable to find her in this thread, genericusername4582 says she has appeared on Kiwi Farms before, when someone posted her nasty double-mastectomy results (I don't have the pictures):

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transphobes using fresh surgery pics (usually without permission) : ftm (archive)
genericusername4582 said:
I had my top surgery photos used by some radfems as an example of “young girls being mutilated” a while back. It spread enough that I even saw other trans men used it as an example of why they think DI is better than peri. Like I’m well aware that my chest looked very wonky at that point but It fucked with me real bad. I’m just glad it was a photo without my face.

Be careful when posting photos, folks. Once it’s on the internet you no longer have control of what happens to it.

And a comment on a post by Elephant Dick (u/unapologetictransguy), who was crying about us sharing the phalloplasty photos she posted publicly:
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Transphobia and the Internet : phallo (archive)
genericusername4582 said:
Im so sorry you had to go through that. A picture of my chest got shared on KF as an example of a “botched” top surgery back when I was like 17. Seeing the things they were saying about my body destroyed me. Thankfully I was lucky enough that I didn’t get doxxed. I can’t even imagine how much more devastating it was with it being your genitals.

I hope the site getting taken down brings you some peace. I didn’t even know the site was taken until this post, so thank you for that. You’ve brought me closure to something that has loomed over my head whenever I talk about my transition online.

You’re not alone, and if you ever need someone to talk to, my DMs are wide open.

Congrats on your surgery btw, I’m sure your dick looks rad.

“I’m sure your dick looks rad” :story:

Here's a long post detailing the timeline of her phalloplasty recovery. I've edited the quote for length, taking out most of the non-surgery stuff. It includes getting an infection in the rotdog which "spread to [vaginectomy] site", necrosis, urethral fistula and stricture, a blockage in the urethra, more fistulas, more infections. In and out of surgery for "repairs". Finally she had a "2 stage buccal mucosa repair" on her urethra (by Dimitriy Nikolavsky), so I imagine she's got scarred-up cheeks like Ashton Williams.

Timeline of single stage RFF healing and complications : phallo (archive)
genericusername4582 said:
Timeline of single stage RFF healing and complicationsSurgery Journal (self.phallo)
Posted by genericusername4582 at 2022-10-29T15:52:28+00:00

In 2013 I had single stage RFF phallo with Dr. Crane (UL, vnectomy, scroyoplasty, glansplasty). I had a tumblr to document my phallo recovery that I decided to go through so I can put together a timeline and better answer some questions I see on here a lot. I don’t want to share the actual tumblr account because it’s linked to another account with a lot of shitty views I no longer stand by, and has some personal stuff I’d rather not share. At some point I’ll put together the graft site healing images and post them.

- my arm was the most painful thing until the wound vac came off on day 5
- my arm “looked like raw chicken” when I first saw it
- drain in my scrotum and staples in my leg came out on day 5
- left the hospital on day 6

Day 16:
- developed an infection in my scrotum, was readmitted to the hospital, had minor surgery to remove pus. After the pus was removed, the wound needed to be packed with some type of gauze string to let it heal from the inside out

Day 17:
- Infection spread to vnectomy site, was told I needed another procedure to remove fluid but when they went to do it the fluid had disappeared somehow.

Day 20:
- got an enema because I hadn’t pooped for 16 days straight
- had a small amount of necrotic tissue removed from my glansplasty

Day 23:
- left the hospital again

4 weeks:
- discovered a small fistula

5 weeks:
- starting to see early signs of stricture at the tip

2 months
- had another minor infection
- primary doctor had to dilate the stricture at the tip, scheduled appt with local urologist
- SP catheter still in until the stricture is fully resolved and fistula is closed

9 weeks:
- fistula healed, stricture did not
- went to local urologist, found out there’s a blockage where the fistula was

10 weeks:
- started getting feeling in the base of my penis similar to the feeling when your arm falls asleep
- SP still in but occasionally peeing through my penis because of spasms. It was super painful with the stricture but it was the only way to stop the spasms
- referred to a local reconstructive urologist (Dr. Dimitriy Nikolavsky at upstate hospital)

3 months:
- went to new urologist, got dick x rays, found the stricture at the tip, the blockage at the base, and two small fistulas. Scheduled for a procedure to fix those.
- SP tube was calcified and infected** and the change was extremely painful (**later realized it may not have been an infection and was actually an allergic reaction to the latex)

3.5 months:
- feeling goes up about 3/4 of the way to the tip
- more feeling also meant more pain from urinary problems

10 months:
- had the surgery to fix the stricture, fistulas, and blockage. The blockage turned out to be a clot or something. Within a week of getting the catheter out, scar tissue formed and my urethra closed up again where that blockage was
- had another surgery to repair that stricture and there was also a small cavity at the vnectomy site that he cleared out and closed up

1 year:
- stricture came back after a few weeks, had to go to the ER and get an SP put back in
- that tube clogged, another trip to the ER for a tube change
- that second tube clogged as well but I miraculously pissed myself lol. My urologist didn’t trust that the stricture wouldn’t just come back So I was scheduled for a 2 stage buccal mucosa repair

I stopped really updating at that point, but everything went well with the buccal mucosa repair. It was placed flat to establish blood supply and I had to pee sitting from behind my balls for 6 months before it could be closed up. During that 6 month period, I had to flush the urethra in my penis daily to keep it clean and open. I’ve been stricture free since then. My last catheter came out 1y9mo after my original phallo. I developed interstitial cystitis from repeated bladder trauma from the SP, but it’s now well managed on medication and avoiding triggers.

I know I had a lot of complications and I’m not trying to scare anyone with all of this. Some of it was purely due to bad luck and the inherent risks, but some of my problems were definitely due to certain factors in my life interfering with healing. That needs to be kept in mind when reading through this timeline. At about 6 or 7 months post op, I moved out of my parents house and life really went downhill. I was in an abusive relationship and then dealing with the aftermath of getting out of that relationship. I spent a brief period living in my car and couch surfing. I was working 2 jobs while doing college full time. Some other stuff happened that I’d rather not discuss. I was in a bad place mentally and neglected my medical needs. I went back to smoking cigarettes when I had previously quit 6 months before my initial phallo. I also starting drinking too much. I can’t say how much of my medical problems would or wouldn’t have happened if life were different but it absolutely played a role. Ok, depressing ramble is done.

Since that final UL repair, things have been good with my life and my dick. I put off getting any further surgery, medical tattooing, and glans revision indefinitely. I am now again looking into getting an ED/implants and glans revision but still haven’t made a decision. I no longer feel a need to have medical tattooing done.

More on the problems: Dysphoria after bottom surgery (not what you think) : ftm (archive)
genericusername4582 said:
I also had a recurring stricture that ultimately took 4 repairs to fix. There were short periods where I could stand to pee between repair attempts but I spent the majority of time with an SP cath on and off for over a year, and 6 months with my urethra rerouted to behind my balls in the time between stages of a two stage repair.

The only photos I could find were these of her arm and leg.

RFF donor site healing 6 days to 9.5 years : phallo (archive)
8 days:
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9 weeks:
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10 months:
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2.5 years:
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9.5 years:
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Split thickness graft site at 9.5 years post op : phallo (archive)
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She's now thinking of having surgery to implant an erectile device and fake balls:

And, lastly, some epic cope.

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Anyone else tired of misinformation around top surgery/scars? : ftm (archive)
genericusername4582 said:
Don’t tell me my dick doesn’t look real. It is real. It’s a real part of my body that I can reach down and touch. If you mean cis passing, say that.

Don’t tell me my dick doesn’t work normally. It works exactly the way it should following the surgeries I’ve had. If you’re talking about unassisted erections, say that. If you’re talking about production of sperm, say that.

Don’t tell me my dick or arm looks gross. I am an actual human and those are my actual body parts. If you’re talking about… no. Just don’t talk about this at all. That’s an opinion you can keep to your damn self.

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Why do so many trans women deny that they're male or that they ever experienced male socialization? : honesttransgender (archive)
genericusername4582 said:
I rarely ever see trans men denying the biological reality that we're females and that 99.99% of us were raised and socialized as a female.
I am not female. That is not a biological reality. The reality is that my sex at birth was female, but my sex is no longer female. One look at me can tell you that is absolutely insane to say that it is.
 
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Bruce/Brenda/David Reimer's circumcision was medically necessary, due to phimosis. I actually believe that the procedure was DELIBERATELY botched, because in addition to him being an identical twin, his parents were low-income and just out of high school when they were born. His "normal" twin developed schizophrenia and also died at a young age.

As for the Jamie Reed testimony, there's an error; bicalutamide (Casodex) is used for prostate cancer, not pancreatic cancer.

In the past, some post-menopausal women would take near-homeopathic doses of testosterone to boost their sex drive, if they lost it. Clitoral enlargement was definitely a side effect in some cases, in addition to voice changes, body hair growth, etc.
I forgot to add that with him being an identical twin, Dr. Money and his colleagues figured they had an ideal research subject, medical ethics be damned.
 
I can’t imagine standing to pee and not making a complete mess out of myself. It’s hard enough squatting on one of those stupid third world style toilets.
Confidence is key. It's gross, but if you want to STP you have to bear down and push with your pelvic floor, so it kinda blasts out in a steady stream and doesn't drip. You use your fingers to direct the stream by lightly pinching the skin around the urethra. It takes practice to figure out how to pinch correctly and it's not great rummaging around in your pants in public like that though. It's a useful skill and perhaps if some of these ftms figured out how to do it they'd shut up about wanting to get an armdog installed just so they can pee into one of those piss troughs you get in dive bars.

She-wees are nasty. At least using your hand you're only likely to get some pee on your fingers, which you were going to wash anyway, but a she wee has to be washed out and then carried around. For some reason my co-worker whipped hers out to show me the other day and I was just flabbergasted that she was waving around this thing which had recently been in contact with her piss.
 
r/phallo post of minors discussing when they got their surgeries.
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Hysterectomy as Minor

Hello, I am a 15 year old in the US. I have had top surgery, am on testosterone, and plan on having phalloplasty when I turn 18 with Dr Chen. I scheduled a consultation with him before my 18th birthday so I have that set up, but I have to get a hysterectomy and hair removal before. Ive been looking for surgeons, but apparently since the US government decided to take away reproductive rights about a year ago, now it isn't possible as a minor. I've just been really stressed because I had a whole plan to finally have it all be over, and I dont know what to do now. Would it be possible to get a hysterectomy as a minor outside of the country before im 18 (im also not expecting my insurance to work so insurance policies regarding minors dont really matter)? It also isn't technically a law, so is there a surgeon that may be willing in the US. I just dont know if it's entirely hopeless so I should just wait, or ifthere'ss a possibility I can still get one in the next year. If anyone knows anything I would really appreciate it. Thank you!

okzoomer: Yes it’s possible to get hysto as a minor. I got one at 17. Repealing Roe didn’t change rules about getting a hysterectomy but many surgeons won’t operate on minors. I got a referral from my phallo surgeon after scheduling a consultation. If you have an endocrinologist you could also try asking them for a referral for hysterectomy.

Bitter_Worker_2964: I'm in a similar situation (15 post top and on t with a consult with dr Chen) if you find any surgeons for a hysto under 18 lmk

LennysArtt : I’m in Michigan and was told I had to wait until I was 18 due to it being considered genital confirmation surgery.
I started T at 13 and got top at 15, hysto at 18, and RFF soon in May at 19.
I think it’s POSSIBLE to get it as a minor (16+) basically anywhere in the US.. the difficulty of actually getting it done just varies a TON.
And I’d be shocked if insurance would even consider covering it as a minor unless you also have a condition like PCOS and have a medical reason to want to remove everything.
In summary:
  • u/TechnoPotatoBlade (the OP) is 15yo and has already had top surgery. Has a phallo consult at 17.
  • u/okzoomer had a hysto at 17. Had a consultation for phallo at 15. Got phallo at 18.
  • u/Bitter_Worker_2964 is also 15 right now and has had top surgery.
  • u/LennysArtt got top surgey at 15 and hysto at 18.
 
Bruce/Brenda/David Reimer's circumcision was medically necessary, due to phimosis. I actually believe that the procedure was DELIBERATELY botched, because in addition to him being an identical twin, his parents were low-income and just out of high school when they were born. His "normal" twin developed schizophrenia and also died at a young age.

As for the Jamie Reed testimony, there's an error; bicalutamide (Casodex) is used for prostate cancer, not pancreatic cancer.

In the past, some post-menopausal women would take near-homeopathic doses of testosterone to boost their sex drive, if they lost it. Clitoral enlargement was definitely a side effect in some cases, in addition to voice changes, body hair growth, etc.
How do you even diagnose phimosis in a baby? Your foreskin isn’t supposed to be able to pull back until a bit before you start puberty.
 
I actually believe that the procedure was DELIBERATELY botched
Take this as hearsay because I'm simply pulling up memories from more than a decade ago, but I got into the David Reimer story years ago and this was a common belief. I remember there was found to be some connection between Dr. Money and the place David got his circumcision.
 
r/phallo post of minors discussing when they got their surgeries.
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Hysterectomy as Minor

Hello, I am a 15 year old in the US. I have had top surgery, am on testosterone, and plan on having phalloplasty when I turn 18 with Dr Chen. I scheduled a consultation with him before my 18th birthday so I have that set up, but I have to get a hysterectomy and hair removal before. Ive been looking for surgeons, but apparently since the US government decided to take away reproductive rights about a year ago, now it isn't possible as a minor. I've just been really stressed because I had a whole plan to finally have it all be over, and I dont know what to do now. Would it be possible to get a hysterectomy as a minor outside of the country before im 18 (im also not expecting my insurance to work so insurance policies regarding minors dont really matter)? It also isn't technically a law, so is there a surgeon that may be willing in the US. I just dont know if it's entirely hopeless so I should just wait, or ifthere'ss a possibility I can still get one in the next year. If anyone knows anything I would really appreciate it. Thank you!

okzoomer: Yes it’s possible to get hysto as a minor. I got one at 17. Repealing Roe didn’t change rules about getting a hysterectomy but many surgeons won’t operate on minors. I got a referral from my phallo surgeon after scheduling a consultation. If you have an endocrinologist you could also try asking them for a referral for hysterectomy.

Bitter_Worker_2964: I'm in a similar situation (15 post top and on t with a consult with dr Chen) if you find any surgeons for a hysto under 18 lmk

LennysArtt : I’m in Michigan and was told I had to wait until I was 18 due to it being considered genital confirmation surgery.
I started T at 13 and got top at 15, hysto at 18, and RFF soon in May at 19.
I think it’s POSSIBLE to get it as a minor (16+) basically anywhere in the US.. the difficulty of actually getting it done just varies a TON.
And I’d be shocked if insurance would even consider covering it as a minor unless you also have a condition like PCOS and have a medical reason to want to remove everything.
In summary:
  • u/TechnoPotatoBlade (the OP) is 15yo and has already had top surgery. Has a phallo consult at 17.
  • u/okzoomer had a hysto at 17. Had a consultation for phallo at 15. Got phallo at 18.
  • u/Bitter_Worker_2964 is also 15 right now and has had top surgery.
  • u/LennysArtt got top surgey at 15 and hysto at 18.
That thing that isn’t happening happened again
 
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I'm astonished more by the fact that genericusername4582 works in biochemistry and clinical research and saying things that are completely unscientific in term of how human's sex actually works. And she'd know that there are 'sex-based' cellular characteristics that are not determined by hormones, and hormonal in-utero characteristic that cannot be changed after you were born.

But there's the fact that medicine and science has always been an ideological tool for a long time. Or else we wouldn't be talking about John Money here.
Bruce/Brenda/David Reimer's circumcision was medically necessary, due to phimosis. I actually believe that the procedure was DELIBERATELY botched, because in addition to him being an identical twin, his parents were low-income and just out of high school when they were born. His "normal" twin developed schizophrenia and also died at a young age.

As for the Jamie Reed testimony, there's an error; bicalutamide (Casodex) is used for prostate cancer, not pancreatic cancer.

In the past, some post-menopausal women would take near-homeopathic doses of testosterone to boost their sex drive, if they lost it. Clitoral enlargement was definitely a side effect in some cases, in addition to voice changes, body hair growth, etc.

There are 4 more cases of 'David Reimer' as recent as 1989 when it comes to boys with botched circumcision being transed as a baby. The paper stated that they were

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/srs-and-grs-surgeons-and-associated-horrors.76786/post-10620465

They were states to be "psychologically healthy and sexually active" as teenagers, but I note that those kids were likely not diddled like Reimer' case... But I feel like as they got older the truth must settled in their mind.
It's difficult to determine how someone could do for the rest of their life based on high school snapshot. A troubled, awkward kids with no friends who were that way because they were abused by their parents could still bloom and become charismatic and and likable adult. On the same way, boys who were specifically groomed to be girls with help from psychologists would know how to act like a superficially popular girls in high school until it the complexity of adult life set in and they realised they were mutilated. Teenage interactions are not that complex when you 'know' what to do.

Also the article stated that 'McIndoe Vaginoplasty' was used. Which suggests that there are some scientific forgery similar to David Reimer's phimosis, which cannot be diagnosed as a baby because little boy's foreskin usually cannot be pulled back at that age. McIndoe Vaginoplasty is used for girls, actual female, who have vaginal canal and structure inside but are born with defects so they don't have vaginal opening. This wouldn't be used on born-intact males due to differences in anatomy.. So it could be that the research was heavily forged up, and the results were much worse.
 
I'll do an update on gruffin a.k.a tentacledick.
She's not particularly active on reddit but has quite a few tiktoks





TLDR: She's balding, has covered up her phallo scar and still cannot use her rotdog to piss.
 
I'll do an update on gruffin a.k.a tentacledick.
She's not particularly active on reddit but has quite a few tiktoks
TLDR: She's balding, has covered up her phallo scar and still cannot use her rotdog to piss.
All that and she has an unambiguously round, feminine face that isn't even mistakable (like some are) for a young teenage boy. She's just a bearded lady with medical problems.
 
They were states to be "psychologically healthy and sexually active" as teenagers,
Sexually active...with other males teens? If yes then either all of these unfortunate dickless dudes where gay because of a really weird coincidence, or if they were born hetero then that means sexuality can be changed if you start early enough.
 
I'll do an update on gruffin a.k.a tentacledick.
She's not particularly active on reddit but has quite a few tiktoks
TLDR: She's balding, has covered up her phallo scar and still cannot use her rotdog to piss.

“I’ve spent two years and gotten over 8 surgeries. All so I can, maaaybe, stand when I am pee instead of sitting down!”

To any rational human being, this is literal mental illness. There’s no other word for it.
All that and she has an unambiguously round, feminine face that isn't even mistakable (like some are) for a young teenage boy. She's just a bearded lady with medical problems.
Her round face, balding head and stocky body with feminine fat deposits make her look like a dwarf or midget of some sorts.

Does tentacle dick have IQ problems? (besides the obvious ones, that is.)

Because I’m getting strong FAS/Downsie vibes.


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Re: “Stupid comments”
“Nothing that has been said has changed my mind!”

How very egocentric and typical troon brain to think that anyone cares what he thinks. Perhaps people post those comments to warn others, hmm?

But with troons it’s always me, myself and I. The thought that he might not be the audience doesn’t even cross his mind.
 
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