I get this is the Sony hate thread, but you do realize that "The exclusives don't count because the other consoles didn't get them" is fucking retarded, right?
I get this is the Sony hate thread, but you do realize that "Those exclusives don't count because the other consoles didn't get them" is kind of fucking retarded, right?
Especially when you're pulling a more recent trend of games going multiplatform for an era where it didn't happen the same way because of console design differences?
Edit: The better argument for them not being "true" exclusives would be that almost all of them ended up on the Xbox within a year or two of release on PS2.
I'm not hating on Sony in that regard, or saying that they don't count as exclusives. Of course they do, and they were part of the reason that the PS2 was so popular. I'm looking at what @augment said and saying the better (if still flawed) argument for him would be that Sony's 1st parties didn't get momentum until 2002-2003ish, but the exclusives in general were great since year 1.
Then I was looking at what @xXx: State of the Union said and that yes, exclusives are exclusives. But also that simply relying on 3rd parties wasn't/wouldn't be enough to coast on, and that they'd also need to improve their studios to make up for Yakuza, DMC, Final Fantasy, Persona, etc. becoming multiplat. I guess another way to say it is that it helps the console, but I wouldn't give Sony credit for 3rd party exclusives unless they published/funded them.
I can be pretty dumb at wording myself, I know haha.
Heard the last SOCOM wasn't very good and tried too hard to appeal to COD kiddies. Not familiar with SOCOM, though. Military shooters don't interest me much.
2001 had first party titles like TM:Black, Jak and Daxter, ICO and GT3. That's not bad and they are titles many people still remember and endlessly sperg about to this day.
edit: going by the "2004 games and expansions scoring at least 88/100 (MC) or 87.5% (GR)" metric then 2002 and 2003 was way worse for Sony.
2001 had first party titles like TM:Black, Jak and Daxter, ICO and GT3. That's not bad and they are titles many people still remember and endlessly sperg about to this day.
And plus, the 2000s (especially for the PS2) had really good to great third party titles from either GTA, Max Payne, Metal Gear, Call of Duty, Hitman, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil and Silent Hill among many others.
Heard the last SOCOM wasn't very good and tried too hard to appeal to COD kiddies. Not familiar with SOCOM, though. Military shooters don't interest me much.
SOCOM 4 suffered from dumbing down its game play for mainstream appeal AND releasing during the PSN hack. The latter wasn't Zipper's fault; that was unforseen circumstances. It didn't help that their previous SOCOM game, Confrontation, was broken on release.
If Sony wanted to have space in the shooter market, they'd go back to SOCOM, Killzone, Resistance for their fans. They wouldn't compete with Call of Duty, but it's not like they're SOL with FPS games on their platform.
It’s hard to think this, but back in Japan, it was five days ago when this officially turned 21 years old.
Literal drinking age.
Granted, I have not played this game in almost a decade, but I’m still glad that I have it after all these years. I can’t wait for the NBA Street Vol. 2 anniversary that comes up next month, since that game will officially celebrate its 20th anniversary of existing.
It should be fun.
The real life Michael Jordan not only did voice overs for the game, but he also was the final boss as the unlockable character for the game.
It’s hard to think this, but back in Japan, it was five days ago when this officially turned 21 years old.
Literal drinking age.
Granted, I have not played this game in almost a decade, but I’m still glad that I have it after all these years. I can’t wait for the NBA Street Vol. 2 anniversary that comes up next month, since that game will officially celebrate its 20th anniversary of existing.
It should be fun.
The real life Michael Jordan not only did voice overs for the game, but he also was the final boss as the unlockable character for the game.
It’s hard to think this, but back in Japan, it was five days ago when this officially turned 21 years old.
Literal drinking age.
Granted, I have not played this game in almost a decade, but I’m still glad that I have it after all these years. I can’t wait for the NBA Street Vol. 2 anniversary that comes up next month, since that game will officially celebrate its 20th anniversary of existing.
It should be fun.
The real life Michael Jordan not only did voice overs for the game, but he also was the final boss as the unlockable character for the game.
Didn't PS2 have a ton of exclusives in 2001? Maybe stuff came to other systems later but without looking I'm sure it had a ton of classics to itself that year
Didn't PS2 have a ton of exclusives in 2001? Maybe stuff came to other systems later but without looking I'm sure it had a ton of classics to itself that year
Well, it would have had to unless it was sharing them with Dreamcast and N64. In all years of its life the PS2 got tons of exclusives, both timed, true and true until years later (GTA made its way to Xbox only after the 360 released.) It wasn't a surprise if a game was just on PS2, it was a surprise if it wasn't.
Well, it would have had to unless it was sharing them with Dreamcast and N64. In all years of its life the PS2 got tons of exclusives, both timed, true and true until years later (GTA made its way to Xbox only after the 360 released.) It wasn't a surprise if a game was just on PS2, it was a surprise if it wasn't.
Only like 3 of those were exclusive and the ones that weren't typically played better on other platforms.
Also, anyone who wants Obsidian to make another Fallout is dumb. I would trust InXile though since Wasteland 3 was a better Fallout game than most games with Fallout in the title.