Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[AfghanBlue]

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I was curious about that. It's actually not that high. The risk of death is about 1/100k total, but only about 0.2/100k if you're below 70. Not particularly high esp. given other possible complications.

it can just randomly happen tho, with no forewarn.
and troons are walking pre-existing conditions, too

 

[KiwiFuzz]

Here's a video they made for US soldiers in the South Pacific during WWII. The part about washing your dick is near the end:

 

[AfghanBlue]

RE @batteredpancakes post I can quote, of the suspicious r/phallo aidens about the influx of panicked dick choppers wanting their own replacement phalloplasty- and the OPs reply to their comments smelling a rat..
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I've struggled with being trans for literally decades. And when I finally decided to transition at the age of 45 I was on HRT for 3 full years before surgery. I didn't have any doubts and I was really happy for the first 5 months afterwards. I just don't understand what has happened, it's like my feelings have just been flipped upside down. I haven't made any decisions about phalloplasty yet.”

It’s patently obvious what’s happened here- with some (luckier) troons, it happens just from estrogen use- but this guy clearly had a big engine, big old balls, pumping testosterone into his system unswayed by any hrt-

He’s got no balls now and so the coom is GONE. He has no agp drive now because he has lopped off his sex drive entirely.
Woops.
Maybe if he takes some testosterone he will be mad into fucking his neovag- doubtful as it’s likely botched as that seems standard- but lol that might actually help him.
Lol. Lmao

 

[batteredpancakes]

u/Sudden-Diamond-6965 has had her stage 5 with Dr. Cetrulo.

Spoiler: Phallus (NSFW)

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Spoiler: Comments

Cetrulo is working on a refining a method where your dick starts as high as your stomach and slowly lowers it over many stages. Really only he is doing phallo this way. Other abdominal phallos might need some lowering but it's pretty different. His method is not at all like any other abdominal method.

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I’m feeling tired of having so many surgeries to be honest. But after this last surgery I’m feeling good about how things are looking so it’s given me the perseverance to keep pressing forward. My phallo was created by using abdominal skin. The phallo was first created and hung from just under my belly button. Each stage he has lowered my penis more towards my pubic mound.

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Yes you’re right about that. Had I known it would take 5 surgeries just to get me where I’m at now I would have asked for the traditional method where it’s done a different way where the scar ends up being on the top side but at least it’s moved into its final resting position if not the first surgery then the second one. With this method, the joint incision is on the underside.

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Thank you! I’m liking how things are coming along so far. I have probably 5 more surgeries to go with the next one being the vaginectomy. Then initial creation of lengthened urethra using the labia minora and it will run from my urethra up under my clit. Then the urethral lengthening in my penis will be created using abdominal wall tissue from inside. Then hook up if the two including nerves.

5 surgeries with 5 more to go. Fuck that.

 

[Fapcop]

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I wonder who has had the most dicks fall off?
Lol, stealthyalpha
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Guh, whose gonna volunteer to give that Pooncast a listen?
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Dang. There it is again!

“TAKING CARE OF A BABY”…

Wasn’t it one of the regulars here who pointed out how these crazy broads see their rotdogs as babies because of their biological clock ticking along?!

Cetrulo is working on a refining a method where your dick starts as high as your stomach and slowly lowers it over many stages.

LMAO!

Start with a dick on the stomach… What an amazing idea!

Surely nothing can go wrong lololol!

Holy shit man, these pooners really take the cake in gullibility!

 

[behindyourightnow]

Posting this here because while it doesn't show the outcomes of a bad surgery, it definitely shows the prequel:

Do I really need anybody to come with me for surgery?

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I want to have top surgery in June with Align Surgicial but I don't have anyone. Can't I just go to California alone and uber back to the hotel? This is such a struggle when you don't have anybody, I'm barely financially stable enough to go by myself, but providing for TWO people? I only have 1.1k right now for the insurance deposit + trip. I don't think I have any money for food and BARELY anything for hotel costs. It's a struggle, I just want to go alone. Does anyone have experience in planning trips and do you know how to do it on a budget???

Yes, just Uber back to the hotel alone after general anesthesia and breast amputation. It gets worse in the comments:



I've never seen a better demonstration of these idiot girls not knowing what they are getting into. They lack any lived experience (see what I did there?) of medical care, illness, surgery, or pain. She thinks she can recover from a double mastectomy in a "cheap hotel" with a "bunch of people in one room" (I wonder what the roommates would think of that?) while she is loopy from anesthesia and her entire chest is being held together with poorly-done stitches. How will she feed or toilet herself? No idea, she has literally never thought of any of these things.

She wasn't even aware that her planned surgery requires a breathing tube:


It gets even worse!



There's the gender dragon. Once her tits get lopped off she will finally be able to solve all her problems and she will immediately get a job and keep it (because she passes and all her mental health issues will have evaporated). That's what she has been told by the cult, after all. She truly seems to think she'll just walk out of the hospital fully healed as a magical animu boy.

She apparently did manage to find someone to go with her and is scheduling her surgery for this year, so we can look forward to the "post-surgery depression" posts and coping.

 

[glioblastoma multiforme]

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if you'd have posted this image with no explanation i'd legit have assumed it was some fish otherkin surgery.

 

[Fapcop]

There's the gender dragon. Once her tits get lopped off she will finally be able to solve all her problems and she will immediately get a job and keep it

Jeeeesus… Is this an average pooner or some sort of extra tardy one? Did you browse her posts a bit more?

It’s hands down the most pantshitting dumb thing I’ve seen here in a while.

Kinda like when a junkie goes: “As soon as I quit this shit, Imma get a job and move to a new city, pay you back and get well!” But at least the junkie is high as a kite, so what’s her excuse?

What if the wound gets infected or there are other complications?

What if she’s out of service for a lot longer than she thought?

What about the first time she gets misgendered at the new job? (Because the titchop won’t make much difference.)

 

[Fëanor Curufinwë]

u/Sudden-Diamond-6965 has had her stage 5 with Dr. Cetrulo.

I really hate this technique. The unnaturally low placement of the navel brings to mind an uncanny valley sculpture made by an amateur with poor understanding of anatomy.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

Cetrulo is working on a refining a method where your dick starts as high as your stomach and slowly lowers it over many stages.

And how does he do that? By experimenting on tranny after tranny. I wouldn't be surprised if the real goal is to find a method to create fake dicks for men who lost theirs trough accidents and trannies are just guinea pigs to reach that goal. So many oft them are begging to get butchered and when it's done they pretend that fake dick abomination looks good while Cetrulo makes notes about what to do different next time. Even if one experiment after another fails, he won't face any negative consequences. His tranny guinea pigs are so deranged, they will always defend him.

It's like the chinese lining up for Unit 731 experiments and then praising their torturers.

 

[FarmVille]

And how does he do that? By experimenting on tranny after tranny. I wouldn't be surprised if the real goal is to find a method to create fake dicks for men who lost theirs trough accidents and trannies are just guinea pigs to reach that goal. So many oft them are begging to get butchered and when it's done they pretend that fake dick abomination looks good while Cetrulo makes notes about what to do different next time. Even if one experiment after another fails, he won't face any negative consequences. His tranny guinea pigs are so deranged, they will always defend him.

It's like the chinese lining up for Unit 731 experiments and then praising their torturers.

How many men out there are randomly losing their dicks in accidents? If I was the kind of person who liked touching dicks after reading this thread and such comments I’d be terrified to give one a firm handshake

The first arm skin dong was made in a surgery for a guy with a micro penis for what it’s worth

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Jeeeesus… Is this an average pooner or some sort of extra tardy one? Did you browse her posts a bit more?

It’s hands down the most pantshitting dumb thing I’ve seen here in a while.

Kinda like when a junkie goes: “As soon as I quit this shit, Imma get a job and move to a new city, pay you back and get well!” But at least the junkie is high as a kite, so what’s her excuse?

What if the wound gets infected or there are other complications?

What if she’s out of service for a lot longer than she thought?

What about the first time she gets misgendered at the new job? (Because the titchop won’t make much difference.)

Profile deep dive time.

She lives in Idaho. She's 19 years old and started hormones last year. Identifies as 'aroace'.

Fucked up family.

She has diagnosed depression, anxiety, ADHD and PTSD and is on two psychiatric medications.

 

[melty]

Jeeeesus… Is this an average pooner or some sort of extra tardy one? Did you browse her posts a bit more?

This one might be "special", I recognize her username from posting her in the trannies posting their L's thread for this

 

[Sourceress]

I can't quote behindyourightnow but that post is just... horrifying. She sounds like a child. According to her GoFundMe (because of course she has one) she's 20, but she has the mentality and experience of a fourteen year old, especially with the thinking $1k is "a whole lot of money" to pay for an elective surgery plus transportation and lodging. She's clearly never had or been around anyone who has had major surgery, and she's painfully naive of the risks. Not to mention that she has a deleted post alluding to heart issues and doesn't seem to think that would be something to be concerned about post-op. I'm glad people are giving her a bit more of a realistic idea of what's going to happen - encouraging her to find someone to care for her, informing her she needs to save up more money - but I feel like they're still being too cuddly about it.

For one thing, she really needs to be informed that a good number of surgeons will not operate if you don't have someone who is there and waiting to take you home and care for you.

Spoiler: PL

I know because I've been the "get them home and take care of them" person for a loved one having a major surgery who was going to be under anesthesia. The doc made it very clear the surgery would not go forward if someone wasn't there for the patient.

I know troon surgeons are a dodgy sort, but surely this would be true of them as well? Like.. they're not going to just shove some barely-conscious bleeding woman into the back of an Uber and go "good luck"... right? Jesus. I would hope not. It would be ironically kind of horrible but hilarious if she got all that way to Cali from Idaho only to get turned away because her brilliant plan of "stay in a hostel by herself while getting major surgery done" didn't meet the standards of even the kind of butcher who does trans surgeries. Maybe it would be a good wake-up call for her.

 

[behindyourightnow]

You don’t tell me part of my body is dying, you risk getting your ass sued. That’s my fucking euphoria. But dood here just shrugs that shit off, because manly or something.

It's not just that they can't admit negative outcomes to others in the cult, it's also that these surgeons seem to be charming psychopaths that the FtMs are in Stockholm Syndrome relationships with. These are all heavily damaged and psychologically unhealthy young women. They are going to act agreeable and forgiving to any authoritative figure who charms them, even if he's saying "oh dear, looks like we let your leg muscle rot, whoopsie-doodle!"

if you'd have posted this image with no explanation i'd legit have assumed it was some fish otherkin surgery.

Tilapia skin grafts are great though, they work well and they make you look like a fish-person:



I also thought the picture was tilapia skin until @Richard Cheese pointed out it is in fact blackened rotted flesh

I know troon surgeons are a dodgy sort, but surely this would be true of them as well? Like.. they're not going to just shove some barely-conscious bleeding woman into the back of an Uber and go "good luck"... right?

They wouldn't. Even if the surgeon himself doesn't care, it's a liability issue for the hospital he's doing the surgery at. They don't let patients go home without an escort even after sedation, because if they try to drive a car afterwards and cause an accident, the hospital can be sued. Presumably the hospital's statistics also look worse if someone goes home alone and then hits their head on the bathroom floor and dies.

I'm glad people are giving her a bit more of a realistic idea of what's going to happen - encouraging her to find someone to care for her, informing her she needs to save up more money - but I feel like they're still being too cuddly about it.

She got some mild pushback, yes, but nobody dared to even approach the larger issue, which is that someone this immature and ignorant maybe should not be planning major irreversible surgery? Or that maybe you can't give informed consent if you think you can sleep off your double mastectomy in a motel room and wake up fresh as a daisy?

If it was any other topic, the Reddit comments would be full of people calling her out. But it's "gender-affirming care," so if you did that your account would get banned for promoting "conversion therapy."

 

[Thomas Eugene Paris]

At first I thought the doctors were using tilapia skin to heal her wound, which is actually pretty cool.
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But no, it's just the muscles in her leg fucking dying. (That's what turned Dr. House into a grumpy ol' druggie lmao. Maybe she can get a cool cane and develop a Vicodin addiction like a fictional real man. Super masc, dude!)

Can a medfag explain what happened here? Did the butcher take out a chunk of her artery without ensuring adequate blood supply to the area?

That's pretty much what it looks like, yes.

Spoiler: First, let's talk about ischemia

When tissue doesn't get enough oxygenated blood, the cells must adapt in order to stay alive. Without adequate oxygen, cells cannot make sufficient ATP (adenosine triphosphate), which is their major source of energy. At first, the cells can manage by changing strategies, using glucose instead of oxygen to make ATP in a process called glycolysis. This works temporarily, but if oxygen supply is not restored, the cascade of metabolic changes can permanently alter cell structure and function, disrupting homeostasis and causing cells to die.

Spoiler: Next, how skin grafts heal - or don't

It's not that unusual for a graft to fail, and it isn't always the result of a surgical error. A split thickness graft like the one this unfortunate pooner had lacks its own blood supply, because the vessels are severed in order to harvest the graft - this is what distinguishes a "graft" from a "flap". The viability of the graft depends upon the blood supply of the "recipient site", the wound bed. At first, the new graft just absorbs blood from the vessels at the surface of the wound bed. This process is called imbibition, a term which comes from the Latin im- + bibere, "to drink in". The graft "drinks" from the capillaries at the recipient site for the first few days. The graft is extremely fragile at this point, and the recipient site must be immobilized to protect it. Often, a pressure dressing is used to ensure that the graft remains in contact with the recipient site.

Within 48 hours, the graft begins to grow a vascular network comprising very fine vessels. Capillaries in the wound bed begin to sprout and grow into the graft. When these proliferating capillary "buds" touch the vessels in the graft, they form connections, or anastomoses. This is called inosculation, which is from the Latin in- + osculari, "to kiss against", or more literally, "to make a small mouth against". The newly formed anastomoses restore blood flow to the graft. Until this occurs, the graft actually looks pretty terrible, but once it's perfused with oxygenated blood, it turns nice and pink.

It is absolutely crucial that the vessels from the recipient site reach the graft in time. The sprouting of new vessels from existing vasculature is called angiogenesis. If angiogenesis is impaired or something interrupts the process of vessel proliferation, the graft dies. Sometimes, it happens when a hematoma (an accumulation of clotted blood) or a seroma (an accumulation of plasma and lymphatic fluid) forms between the graft and the recipient site, preventing the graft from absorbing blood. The newly sprouted vessels that the graft produces are tiny and fragile at first, and occasionally a miniscule clot develops which prevents blood from flowing and kills the graft.

There are also various external risk factors which can prevent graft "take". Smoking, peripheral vascular disease, poor perfusion from other causes, obesity, diabetes, obesity, malnutrition, and bacterial colonization are all major risk factors for graft failure. In general, grafts placed on upper limbs have higher rates of take than those placed on lower limbs. A patient must also be able to comply with postoperative instructions, and failure to do so greatly increases the risk of graft failure.

Sometimes, it's just bad luck that the graft dies. Shit happens, and it's not always within the control of the patient or the surgeon. In this case, the shocking thing isn't necessarily that the graft failed. It's possible that nobody involved did anything to fuck it up. However, it is absolutely appalling that this patient was told that everything was healing fine and looked great when the graft was very, very, very clearly dead. The surgeon allowed this patient to walk around with a necrotic skin graft for days, and when presented with INCREDIBLY REASONABLE concerns about the graft appearance, was dismissive to the point of rudeness. As I mentioned above, the graft should be pink, warm, and plump within 48-72 hours of placement. A graft that appears pale or shriveled is not getting adequate blood. The formation of a black eschar, a hardened area of dessicated necrotic tissue, is a very obvious indicator that the graft is fucking dead. The fact that the underlying muscle died, too, suggests that whatever happened, it should have been addressed with much more urgency. A failed skin graft can actually be left in place, because if nothing else, it provides a covering for the wound while healing by secondary intention takes place. Dead deep fascia and muscle, however, is a really big deal and will require invasive intervention. This woman is going to be permanently disfigured even more than the average pooner. It is absolutely inexcusable that she was told that a black eschar was normal healing and looked great. To put it another way, even troon Reddit could tell there was something seriously wrong with the graft recipient site. It does not take a Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine to discern that black, shriveled tissue is probably not healthy and thriving. It's the equivalent of watching the Zapruder film. You don't have to be a brain surgeon to understand that JFK's head probably wasn't going to be okay.

God, the more I think about this, the more enraged I get. If this had happened to a fucking laboratory mouse, it would be a huge deal and probably necessitate temporary suspension of study activities until the researcher learned that allowing living creatures to suffer needlessly is ethically wrong and scientifically unsound.

 

[Gimme the skinny]

Hold up. Can talapia skin help small scale skin problems?

 

[Surfherder]

Anyone else think this thread is getting even more disturbing and horrific on the daily? The entertainment is top drawer of course, but you do need nerves of steel to open some of the shit in here.

No. I come here for the SRS goreposting.

I actually resent when people tell these losers not to ruin their bodies. They ruined all female spaces, both the tims and tifs. They deserve physical consequences for their actions.

 

[Fapcop]

This one might be "special", I recognize her username from posting her in the trannies posting their L's thread for this

lol!

Might not be straight up retarded, but you have to be a special kind of stupid to not understand the concept of “medical history” and think you’re being “misgendered”.

“Why does it matter if I’m born a woman?!”

Well hun, men and women react differently to certain medications or may need different dosages. Symptoms of pretty serious medical conditions can appear different. Baseline levels can be different. You know… Biology?

 

[batteredpancakes]

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If I sum up all the comments:

• 3rd person account of 'bottom surgery looks terrible'
• doesn't do what I want (erections, cum)
• Sour grapes; cannot afford operation
• hate toward more masc FTMs
• denial
• internalized transphobia
• phallo isn't close to the real thing (this FTM got down-voted haha)
• privilege jealousy
• jealousy
• not being able to express emotions properly
• jealousy and the haters