There is not too many places to have shit posting debates with on this topic, when Null gave up on it and split the threads because people get their fee fees hurt online is a disgusting feeling to free expression It sucks people are just wimpy cowards. This site is getting gayer by the month.
Case in point. I never spoke in absolutes.
We are patiently waiting for Bakhmut to fall other than that there is nothing going on no gains just both sides suiciding. If there was other major offensives being pushed by the Russians people would be talking about it but at the moment the Russian forces are just pushing Bakhmut which should have been taken 4 months ago by "reliable sources" HistoryLegends and weeb union exclaimed in the Z thread by poster.
You can't launch missiles with CIWS actively engaging as IIRC, your launches will fuck with the detection and tracking system not to mention all the shit zinging around for your missile to potentially hit as its going up.
I don't want them trapesing shit on the rug. There's already a DMZ thread for you to go deliver sick burns to the frothing vatniggers, go there and have your gay slapfight.
Your post was p. good, not going to lie. Instead of taking your martyrdom with pride, your chimp out about getting a week long threadban is super gay and is just proving the Janny was 100% right to ban you & then delete your post. Having to promote your own posts is cringe behavior.
That's because you've started posting a lot more.
IMO it seems silly to have expected Bakhumt to have fallen as soon as possible. Zelensky was obsessed with keeping it long after being advised it was a waste of resources, and the longer it was being disputed the longer Zelensky would send solders to their deaths in a literal killbox - solders that could've made more defensible locations more difficult to take if Zelensky had just cut his losses and pulled out sooner.
The battle of Bakhumt have been going on for almost eight months or even more.
Russia is using it's own resources while Ukraine is getting handouts from all of NATO. Normally you'd expect a single country to lose quickly when facing someone backed by at least half of the whole world.
Bakhmut is sucking Russian resources and keeping a large number of Russian forces - and their limited logistics - tied down. I don't know the exact situation, I'd like to believe that the tactical situation isn't as bad as estimated if they are continuing to send forces. I don't believe Vatnigger assessments as its been "Bakhmut will last two weeks" for the past year.
The handouts are all late-coldwar surplus. The Abrams aren't even A3's, the Leopard IIs are all early block. France hasn't even offered up LeClercs (because they don't have enough or the ability to make more*, and their LeClerc replacement is refurbished LeClercs.)
We've been dumping out Burkes non-stop for the past few decades. The most recently commissioned one was in 2022. We laid down the first of the Flight III models in March of last year.
Not just that but the Italians have been building really, really good small ships for a long time. Its almost like they have a lot of coastline relative to their size and no need to spread out design talent on massive warships or something. They're probably the best in the world, IMO.
The USA also has an impressive tactical interlink system between ships that means smaller vessels with weaker radar/computers can tie their weapons in with the big boys. A frigate can chuck some Sea Sparrows at a target, pass them off to a Burke for guidance, and then continue tracking any other threats in its assigned sector.
See above. Aegis is an incredibly potent system.
"Its unfair that Russia isn't allowed to bully Ukraine!" Christ dude, we aren't even backing Ukraine all that much, as @Ghostse pointed out. If we were backing Ukraine as much as you're saying we are half of Southwestern Russia would be burning from ATACMS strikes and Strike Eagles in Ukrainian flags would be dropping 2000 pound bombs on the other half. Armor would be getting sniped by Apache-launched Hellfires and anyone who tried to flee would have F-16's drop cluster bombs on them to recreate the Highway of Death.
I obviously can't speak to what the generals exact thoughts are (which is why I'm generally skeptical of "detailed war strategies" that online randos post... well that and that they think Kiev was a feint). It could be for a propaganda victory, it could be to stall the Russians while they build up their force, it could be because they view the city as strategically important, or it could just be to cause attrition for the Russians. Either way, it's attritional on both sides, with likely a slight edge towards the Ukrainians in terms of losses (even if 5 or 3:1 is optimistic, defenders generally have an advantage).
Resources take time to mobilize, and the resources sent to Ukraine have typically been limited in scope, and variable on model. A lot of their western combat vehicles (I.E. non-variants of Russian models) have only just arrived or have not been delivered yet. Most of the vehicles donated have been out of use by the donor nations. Western field arty has been delivered, but in limited numbers for more advanced systems (e.g. 20 total HIMARS so far). No Western combat aircraft pledged. Ammo supply certainly helps relieve stress on native industry, but also takes time to ramp up to wartime production levels, and is complicated by western equipment typically taking different ammo. I doubt the US is supplying Ukraine with much 125mm, and I doubt Ukraine has the ability to produce M31 GMLRS rockets even if they wanted to. Not to mention foreign volunteers are a minority of Ukraine's force, so Ukraine is still mobilizing largely on its own.
Again, while "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" (F-15 going to be able to get discounts on Avgas with golden senior's card while still humiliating Soviet SAMs and Airframes) Its a cold-war ship with upgrades.
That's completely fair; even if a Burke couldn't launch with actively engaging CIWS, other ships could.
The only thing that's remained consistent is that the battleships are the ones with the big guns, and nobody makes those anymore. And the U.S. mothballed their last ones for a destroyer project...that they cancelled.
