Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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A chick heard about the whole piss-milking thing, and would like to know more:

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Of course she’s met with 100% honesty and transparency… Oh wait!
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You are lying lol’ pooner! Why is that?
 
Which of the two genital mutilations costs more?
Depends on what you’re getting.

A stinkditch can be made in one surgery, and is relatively straightforward, depending on the what kind of mutilation you go for. You can get one for 20.000$ in Thailand, and maybe twice that in the US.

A rotdog otoh, if you’re getting one with all the bells and whistles (re-routing the urinary tract, closing up the vagina and installing an erection pump) can get really pricey.

We’re talking 3 surgeries (plus any complications that require surgery) and a price of at least $100k. And can easily be twice as much.
 
Here's an amhole that looks like it's collapsing in on itself:

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Oh wait, there's more! This stunning and brave specimen suffered the ultimate worst: after "her" stink-ditch installation, "she" was put in the same hospital room with a TERF!

It’s been almost two weeks since surgery. I spent the first week in the hospital, with no pain at all. The only incident had nothing to do with the surgery itself (I was placed with a radical feminist at the same room, but it lasted for just a couple of hours until they move me to another room). Once I reached home, I already had some minor issues with the stitches, but then the dehiscence came. What does my vulva look like? I’m afraid I will need a revision in the future. Dilatation doesn’t hurt a bit.

 
Which of the two genital mutilations costs more?
I think the FtM butchering costs more in the end.

Guys generally get their balls cut off, their dicks filleted, have the dick skin sewn inside out, shoved up a hole punched in the pelvic floor, and then get some flesh origami to (badly) simulate outer female genitalia. A good chunk of them think their moobs from estrogen are just fine, but others get a boob job.

So you got one operation to make the stink ditch, one revision (they all seem to have at least one) and maybe a boob job. It's relatively simple compared to mangling a female into a eunuch.

Girls generally get their breasts cut off first, to achieve that manly "zippertits" look. Then they get their internal reproductive organs yeeted (unless they wanna risk cancer from all that testosterone.). Once the girly parts are gone, they can get their Frankenstein on!

They commonly get a forearm filleted to form the "neophallus". The "donor site" usually looks like they suffered a bad burn and can make that arm basically useless afterwards. (Alternate sites can be used like the back, but I guess they like the "this tattoo used to be visible but now it's not" aesthetic of using a forearm instead.). The butcher, sorry, surgeon, creates a tube from that meat slab that bears no resemblance to a real dick. It's sewn (badly) onto the fupa, and often later turns septic/necrotic because of lack of blood supply.

Yeah, it's never gonna function like the real thing, but most pooners don't seem to mind if they can't use it for sex. Most of them would rather be able to stand and pee like a big boy at the urinal. Sex isn't as important as swaggering up to the porcelain god and whipping it out for some reason. So the butchers promise them that they can lengthen their urethras with some other flesh origami and thread it through the meat tube.....and *this* is where it gets seriously fucked up.

They experience strictures when the "neourethra" clogs up (could be with body hair if they didn't get the "donor" site electrolysis, or other vile reasons), so then they have a real medical emergency because they can't pee.....at all......standing or sitting or any position. The muscles of the female bladder aren't as strong as a natal male's, anyway (why would it? Female urethras are like an inch and a half, while guys are like 8-9 inches). That's where all this talk about "milking" comes in - they aren't talking about their boobs, they are talking about trying to get the pee out of a (now) underpowered bladder.

So, yeah. It's gonna cost a hell of a lot more to get a FtM more or less functional, simply because so much more could go wrong, and they run a real risk of fucking up their urinary system. You're gonna need a few revisions, a few emergency room runs, and who the hell else knows until the pooner shuffles off this mortal coil. It's easily enough to send a butcher's kid allllllll the way through college without incurring any debt.
 
Which of the two genital mutilations costs more?
Phalloplasty, simply because there's more really bad complications with the procedure than a stink ditch. They did the first stinkditch surgery in the 30s, and have been doing them since the 50s, though as we've seen on this thread, the results are atrocious. But they still have a better idea of how to perform them than phalloplasty.

Phalloplasty is still relatively new and absolutely lunacy. They fucking flay your skin to roll into an awful fleshtube to attach to a part of your body it was never meant to be attached to. Also, phalloplasty actually requires neurosurgeons because of all the cutting and stitching of the nerves and connecting blood vessels. It is an extremely delicate operation.

But, as you see, no one actually gives a shit, because literally any surgeon, even plastic surgeons, are allowed to do this. There is no set standard for any of these surgeries. So, a surgery that should be performed by a neurosurgeon is instead getting performed by evil people who get off on mutilating and experimenting on indoctrinated people and suffering absolutely no consequence.

Oh, and you basically have one chance to get a phalloplasty right. If it fails, then it fails, though of course they'll insist another surgery will fix the problem. You only get one chance to lengthen the urethra. You only have one chance to correctly sew the fleshtube in place and to connect the nerves and blood vessels. There are no second chances after this. And when this happens, you're proably going to have to have a catheter for life, not to mention, you will never have sexual function or pleasure again.

Edited: To stitch nerves back together after phallopasty requires using needles that are 1/4 the size of a hair strand. Tell me, you think these gender butchers are going to spring for the medical supplies and training to use that? Nope! Just another reason to show how fucked up these gender butchers really are.
 
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I'm new to this thread. In my disinterest, I had hitherto assumed surgeons were capable of knocking up something that not only resembled the target genitalia but could also function like it. I thought it was one operation and then off home to poke or get poked. I feel a bit silly now.
May I indulge in a bit of semantic spergery? Thank you.

It's uninterested. No one here is disinterested in troons. Disinterested means "impartial", as in objective. Uninterested means "not interested", as in bored by.

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be an asshole. I just see this so often and it sets my teeth on edge every time.

Phalloplasty, simply because there's more really bad complications with the procedure than a stink ditch. They did the first stinkditch surgery in the 30s, and have been doing them since the 50s, though as we've seen on this thread, the results are atrocious. But they still have a better idea of how to perform them than phalloplasty.
Easier to make a hole than a pole, as the saying goes.
 
Which of the two genital mutilations costs more?
Here is an a la carte menu from the London Transgender Clinic (recently shut down without warning) showing starting prices for MTF in £. If anyone has the equivalent for phallos, post up.

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Edit: Looks like they are up and running again but do not do phallos although they will tattoo you an extra nipple for that authentic witchy look at Halloween.

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Edit for link.
 
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@tehpope
I found the image in my archive
Thanks, I've been looking for that one.

It's uninterested. No one here is disinterested in troons. Disinterested means "impartial", as in objective. Uninterested means "not interested", as in bored by.
Not where I grew up - speaking English. "Disinterested" meant one was actively not interested in a thing. "Uninterested" meant one had no involvement.
 
Good news! Nuigi (parasiteDick) is still alive.
She's posted in r/ftmfitness with 2 year before/after shots. She also talks about how hard its been struggling with her health.
These pics also show off her top surgery and her arm scar.
Link | Archive
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2 years difference without constant training because of health problems and surgeries. Started again going to the gym 2 months ago.

Hi! Im 24, 1,70m tall and I weight currently 67/68kg. 2 years ago I decided to loose weight and I lost around 20-25kg, I was too skinny and not able to build a lot of muscles because I wasn’t eating enough. I had a lot of struggles with my health and wasn’t able to train all the time. I gained a few kilograms and just accepted it. Since two months I’m back in the gym, eat enough and I feel good. I’m happy with my current shape but there is of course a lot to improve and to work on. I’m on a vegan diet and train 4-5 days/week in the gym and lifting heavy weight. I also do a bit cardio and go running.
Laughing at the dragonfly tattoo. A bug tattoo is perfect for her.
 
Good news! Nuigi (parasiteDick) is still alive.
She's posted in r/ftmfitness with 2 year before/after shots. She also talks about how hard its been struggling with her health.
These pics also show off her top surgery and her arm scar.
Link | Archive
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2 years difference without constant training because of health problems and surgeries. Started again going to the gym 2 months ago.

Hi! Im 24, 1,70m tall and I weight currently 67/68kg. 2 years ago I decided to loose weight and I lost around 20-25kg, I was too skinny and not able to build a lot of muscles because I wasn’t eating enough. I had a lot of struggles with my health and wasn’t able to train all the time. I gained a few kilograms and just accepted it. Since two months I’m back in the gym, eat enough and I feel good. I’m happy with my current shape but there is of course a lot to improve and to work on. I’m on a vegan diet and train 4-5 days/week in the gym and lifting heavy weight. I also do a bit cardio and go running.
Laughing at the dragonfly tattoo. A bug tattoo is perfect for her.
Hell yeah dood! Starving yourself on a vegan diet and having to reassure yourself it's ok when you put on muscle weight is an experience every true & honest gymbro goes through in his life. :story:
 
after "her" stink-ditch installation, "she" was put in the same hospital room with a TERF!

We have operatives everywhere

Which of the two genital mutilations costs more?

In Australia, TransHub says

depth vaginas are between $8,000-$30,000
zero depth - no figures
phalloplasty - between $50,000 - $80,000
metoid - no figures

All figures are in Australian dollars, and they stress extra costs can easily mount up.

I found the image in my archive.

Well that’s next Halloween’s pfp taken care of. They might be weird, deformed, not symmetrical, and quite tiny, but nonetheless much euphoria boners, so level achieved.

It's uninterested. No one here is disinterested in troons. Disinterested means "impartial", as in objective. Uninterested means "not interested", as in bored by.

Not where I grew up - speaking English. "Disinterested" meant one was actively not interested in a thing. "Uninterested" meant one had no involvement.

Also native English speaker. The primary meanings are as @Thomas Eugene Paris says. Definitions evolve, so primary meanings might end up switching to where @Iron Jaguar is at, if I am reading him correctly. When words are in flux*, like here, and I’m reviewing others’ work, I go with the primary usage to avoid arguments / making the wrong impression with more particular readers.

* ”awful” used to be praise, prestigious a slur, and so on
 
Good news! Nuigi (parasiteDick) is still alive.
She's posted in r/ftmfitness with 2 year before/after shots. She also talks about how hard its been struggling with her health.
These pics also show off her top surgery and her arm scar.
Link | Archive
View attachment 5580661

View attachment 5580662View attachment 5580663View attachment 5580664
2 years difference without constant training because of health problems and surgeries. Started again going to the gym 2 months ago.

Hi! Im 24, 1,70m tall and I weight currently 67/68kg. 2 years ago I decided to loose weight and I lost around 20-25kg, I was too skinny and not able to build a lot of muscles because I wasn’t eating enough. I had a lot of struggles with my health and wasn’t able to train all the time. I gained a few kilograms and just accepted it. Since two months I’m back in the gym, eat enough and I feel good. I’m happy with my current shape but there is of course a lot to improve and to work on. I’m on a vegan diet and train 4-5 days/week in the gym and lifting heavy weight. I also do a bit cardio and go running.
Laughing at the dragonfly tattoo. A bug tattoo is perfect for her.
She’s still so damned hourglass she might as well be eating sand.

For my fellow imperialists, she’s 5’5”, 147 lbs.
 
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