Community Munchausen's by Internet (Malingerers, Munchies, Spoonies, etc) - Feigning Illnesses for Attention

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IDK how much to believe it but according to a friend (I think it's Gabby the Goose Girl but I stole the SS from IF), Paige quit social media voluntarily, moved into an apartment, and is still sick but not constantly seeking attention. I don't think Paige will ever truly be reformed but she and Gabby did have a public falling out, so it's not like Gab's running damage control for her anymore.

I've said from the start that Paige and Kelly are true munchausen and would be doing this in the total absence of a social media presence. Kelly resurfaced a while ago missing all her teeth and hair so she proved me right. I'd wager Paige is getting her fix from doctor visits to fix the damage done and doesn't strictly need her social media attention to scratch the itch.
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(Also I did not mean to leave people hanging w/natalia, I checked into my work site Friday morning to find that there was no internet on site and one bar of cell service. I'll get it finished ASAP.)
 
My main problem with bupe is that it’s pushed as this wonder drug, just like methadone back in the day (and they even push some of the same half truths like “it can’t get you high and PREVENTS you from getting high”.) but at the end of the day the relapse rates aren’t exactly a huuuge success.

(It’s also a weird fucking drug. Anecdotally it seems a lot more efficient at lower dosages which may have something to do with the way it metabolizes. Like I’ve met plenty of addicts who are stuck on tiny dosages of Buprenorphine for years and can’t kick it because of the half-life and side effects.)

Bupe is pretty damn effective as a pain reliever. Had it for some severely heinous pain flares after chemo exacerbated a couple of chronic conditions and it did the job well until pain management could assess me.
 
Bupe is pretty damn effective as a pain reliever. Had it for some severely heinous pain flares after chemo exacerbated a couple of chronic conditions and it did the job well until pain management could assess me.
Yeah it is. Especially in opiate naive patients.

Note that the dosages are tiiiny though, compared to what is used for opiate dependency treatment.

Opiate sperging: As I recall, Buprenorphine metabolizes into nor-Buprenorphine, which is very euphoric. But since bupe is such a weird drug with such a strong receptor binding, the nor-Buprenorphine can’t find a receptor to attach to, if you take too much Buprenorphine. Anyways, that’s one explanation I’ve seen as to why Buprenorphine can be euphoric, and simultaneously why less seems like more with the drug. In some countries, like Sweden, it’s also a popular drug of abuse.
 
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Yeah it is. Especially in opiate naive patients.

Note that the dosages are tiiiny though, compared to what is used for opiate dependency treatment.

Opiate sperging: As I recall, Buprenorphine metabolizes into nor-Buprenorphine, which is very euphoric. But since bupe is such a weird drug with such a strong receptor binding, the nor-Buprenorphine can’t find a receptor to attach to, if you take too much Buprenorphine. Anyways, that’s one explanation I’ve seen as to why Buprenorphine can be euphoric, and simultaneously why less seems like more with the drug. In some countries, like Sweden, it’s also a popular drug of abuse.

Oh hell yeah.

I preferred bupe over oxy, I don't like the oxy side effects. I hate the stoned feeling, it messes with my head.
 
Oh hell yeah.

I preferred bupe over oxy, I don't like the oxy side effects. I hate the stoned feeling, it messes with my head.
more opiate sperging
I've never felt a thing off bupe, but I remember years ago I gave some subs to a friend of mine and his roommates told me the guy got so fucked up they asked me to never give him or sell him anymore.
I wonder why some people get fucked up on them and others don't it makes me wonder if it is something to do with how opiates change your brain chemistry
 
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Alright, to bring it back on topic. Given the number of people in this thread and elsewhere who absolutely have noticed the state of controlled substances in the usa is easier to get on the street even if you actually need them (its sad watching 70 year olds grow poppies and knowing neither addicts nor are those decorative.... just less scary than fent.)

How the hell are these girls convincing anyone to give them anything aside from ketamine?

Maybe I haven't read enough of the thread but pill mills have been gone for years is my understanding. The cdc even had to back down slightly their insane stance not that itll help anything at this point.

Or are they all just... masochistic enough to want ports and lines and they dont get pain meds?

rare me dumb but im not after a how to but I genuinely don't get how otherwise healthy, young and often female people are managing this. Thats demographically the age group least likely to get listened to for anything or given pain management (other than being white) unless there's like...cancer or something involved.
 
Alright, to bring it back on topic. Given the number of people in this thread and elsewhere who absolutely have noticed the state of controlled substances in the usa is easier to get on the street even if you actually need them (its sad watching 70 year olds grow poppies and knowing neither addicts nor are those decorative.... just less scary than fent.)

How the hell are these girls convincing anyone to give them anything aside from ketamine?

Maybe I haven't read enough of the thread but pill mills have been gone for years is my understanding. The cdc even had to back down slightly their insane stance not that itll help anything at this point.

Or are they all just... masochistic enough to want ports and lines and they dont get pain meds?

rare me dumb but im not after a how to but I genuinely don't get how otherwise healthy, young and often female people are managing this. Thats demographically the age group least likely to get listened to for anything or given pain management (other than being white) unless there's like...cancer or something involved.
Gosh, this girl has tried steroid shots, radio frequency ablation, seven surgeries. She's so compliant with treatment and she's still in so much pain. She's got gastric issues and NSAIDs make her vomit more than she usually does. I guess there's only one thing left to try.
 
How the hell are these girls convincing anyone to give them anything aside from ketamine?

Two things: lies and money.

You're forgetting you're in the munchie zone. Where self reported pain scores and writhing whilst being watched factor in more than silly things like the possibility of addiction. Didn't you know they're super sick and can't eat/move/sleep/go to Disney without excruciating excessive OTT pain we just can't quantify because super high pain threshold and it stops me doing everything yknow? (except what they really really want to do like concerts but I digress)

The majority of the pill poppers are American, and entrenched within a system of pay to pill. They're telling the doctor what's wrong and how to treat it, and the doctor is nodding along because money. Exacerbating things means more appointments and more referrals and more kickback and monies.

This even applies in universal health care countries because private care exists to suck every penny from your cold dead husk. If you look at the ones treated on the NHS, the predominant response unless they're actually batshit is hell no, fuck off.
 
The majority of the pill poppers are American, and entrenched within a system of pay to pill. They're telling the doctor what's wrong and how to treat it, and the doctor is nodding along because money. Exacerbating things means more appointments and more referrals and more kickback and monies.
I don't even think it's that. Doctors are expecting people trying to manipulate them for opiates to being doing it for addiction or diversion. They aren't trained to figure out if someone is drug seeking for validation.

It's not about the high, it's about showing the world how sick you are.
 
Alright, to bring it back on topic. Given the number of people in this thread and elsewhere who absolutely have noticed the state of controlled substances in the usa is easier to get on the street even if you actually need them (its sad watching 70 year olds grow poppies and knowing neither addicts nor are those decorative.... just less scary than fent.)

How the hell are these girls convincing anyone to give them anything aside from ketamine?

Maybe I haven't read enough of the thread but pill mills have been gone for years is my understanding. The cdc even had to back down slightly their insane stance not that itll help anything at this point.

Or are they all just... masochistic enough to want ports and lines and they dont get pain meds?

rare me dumb but im not after a how to but I genuinely don't get how otherwise healthy, young and often female people are managing this. Thats demographically the age group least likely to get listened to for anything or given pain management (other than being white) unless there's like...cancer or something involved.

This is why they share from a select pool of doctors. Medical professionals can spot a munchie from ten miles away. Most hate them with a passion but as long as we live in a for-profit system there will always be someone willing to milk the cows.
 
I'm always shocked when people in the UK manage to maintain a full and vibrant munch considering the doctors don't want to know even when you're actually ill.

Munchies are almost made for the NHS:

Those who shout the loudest or know enough about what should be done (eg NICE guidelines on when to refer, where and and how long people should be waiting, and know how to complain efficiently) get *a lot* further especially when services or funding is limited.

It costs more in time, patience and money to keep putting off someone who's job is being ill: refer them on and hope that shuts them up.
 
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Natalia Rijos part 3. In part 2 Natalia started getting high-dose ketamine treatments for the CRPS she developed from a childhood injury after moving from Texas back to her home state of Florida. She travels all over the state seeing doctors at pediatric clinics who are becoming increasingly suspicious of her claims of illness and spends her days at home so high on ketamine and benzos, she's unable to attend school or remember people visiting her. She loses a shitload of weight and muscle mass while claiming she can’t even have a sip of water without vomiting and can’t take even a step without her wheelchair. We ended with the reveal that she’s been seeing the same cash-only pain doctor that Maya Kowalski was taken to. In this part, we’re gonna find out what happens when Natalia ages out of pediatric care and has to be a grown up.

She gets her GJ surgery and once again, other girls who have had this same surgery with this same doctor are in the comments.
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Just in time for another awareness day. She’s in love with her new tube even though it already is giving her problems. She’s just glad to not have the nose hose everyone stared at that made her cry herself to sleep all the time. Remember that Natalia can't eat while you get up to eat a snack.
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She goes to pride, drag queens still can’t not be creepy to young people. #genderfluid.
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At this point her posting is really sporadic and she says she mostly moved to Snapchat so I’m going to do something I almost never do and scan through her saved stories. Here’s one from this era where she's calling herself Nate and saying she's also "transmasculine." These font choices are so accessible thank u. Here she says her CRPS is now “stage three full body” so I guess that R part is no longer a thing. She has both osteoporosis and osteopenia, slow transit constipation (lol drugs), and motor ocular dysfunction, a disorder where the eyes have trouble tracking which makes reading difficult. She also tells us the heart defect she had repaired was an atrial septum defect. Super super common, often close on their own during childhood and those that don’t usually cause no problems. A few rare types can be dangerous. We don’t ever learn what specific type she has or if it was actually one of the rare cases where it was causing problems but If I had to guess it was more that Natalia went from active kiddo to sitting in hospital beds all day drowning in anxiety and this heart thing was blamed for her somatic/deconditioning symptoms. As for the osteoporosis/osteopenia, yeah that’ll happen if you’re on steroids – she’s on Florinef for “POTS” – and never walk.
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In May she goes to the sick kid prom again and wins all the prizes again.
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You were not exactly diagnosed with EDS. A diagnosis mill rheum you traveled across the state to see said they thought you had it then the actual genetics department at the well-respected children’s hospital said no.
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Another central line infection in June and another time she has to talk her mom into bringing her to the ED. Interesting use of scare quotes around discussion. Her line is infected with staph and yeast-colonized again. While hospitalized she has the same problems she did last time she had the line infection: her IVs keep infiltrating, her feeding tube breaks, etc. This time she also ends up with massive blood clots and has to be started on thinners. She gets a new central line and tube and is sent home on blood thinners. In an update she tells us her new central line is now bleeding uncontrollably and she’s been readmitted. Every photo here is just her cheesing with people who came to visit her in the hospital.
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She doesn’t really update on that. She comes back in August to say she spent the last month in the hospital. She got more ketamine infusions from the 17th until the 21st when she started vomiting bile. They try to treat it at home, again with the implication that she thinks this is an emergency and mom is making her try to wait it out. She’s in intense pain and her doctors think she has a bowel obstruction. She’s told to go to the ER. It ends up not being an obstruction but a HIDA scan shows her gallbladder has completely stopped functioning. Doctors start her on short-term TPN after they can’t find a feed that works for her when she’s that sick and in that much pain. Always nice when a pain munchie has something genuinely painful happen for the first time.
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Discharged in time for an anime con before surgery. She’s definitely gained a lot of weight and her legs are looking much less floppy. She crosses her ankles, leans forwards with her feet on the ground, and even sits on the pavement with no problems. She claims she can’t walk because of CRPS pain in her feet and lower legs.
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Gallbladder removed as well as two severely damaged teeth. They take her off TPN and restart feeds. She claims incredible pain and nausea from running them but her doctors won’t let her change her rate. She wants the TPN back and is not making that a secret. She’s now claiming that her colon and bladder are also paralyzed. While she mentioned having things like bowel prep on hand for her totally-not-drug-related constipation, she’s never mentioned a urinary catheter.
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It’s nerve-ember and she recounts the history of her disease in more detail. It was initially thought to be a sprain but then her hand got swollen, red, and ice cold to the touch. The first hand surgery was a biopsy for fasciitis after during the surgeon said it was CRPS and the biopsy had not been necessary. The photo of her holding the iPad shows that her hand actually was pretty swollen and painful looking at the time although how much of that was there before she got a chunk of her hand cut out? Then there’s an interesting tidbit about how when she was hospitalized and put in OT she screamed so much from being measured that her mom took her to a pain doctor where she got an official CRPS diagnosis. For the first time she tells us the reason that she can’t walk is that after all the OT on her arm she was involved in an accident where a car t-boned her school bus directly at her seat doing 80+ miles per hour and she didn’t have time to brace herself, which she never mentioned before or after. needless to say I could not find any accident that matched her school district at the time, let alone a school bus being t-boned at suicide speed with students on board. She does prove her feet get swollen (check out the fluid roll above her big toe in the second pic) but a lot of things can cause this including sitting still in a wheelchair in a hot climate.
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Hey speaking of her mom and pain meds, here’s a story where Natalia lets us know her mom administers her meds through either her feeding tube and/or her central line while she’s sleeping. Oh boy.
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Also she’s still only going to school a few hours a day. These days she doesn’t even homebound. She just attends for three classes then goes home and sleeps off the drugs.
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Another hospitalization. This time her mom notices her tube is leaking stomach acid and takes her to the ER where she immediately pukes with so much force that the balloon keeping her tube in place is pushed partially out through her stoma still inflated. Because she’s 17 and the children’s ward is full she’s bumped up to an adult unit for the first time and it’s traumatizing. They don’t have the right pediatric tube for her and when they try to place an NJ to at least get medication into her she screams in pain. A bed opens in Children’s so they bring her back there where she gets a new NJ placed under sedation. She’s then bumped back to adult because a kid with cancer actually needs that bed. For only the second time in her life she develops a fever and they determine that her central line has become dislodged and is now rubbing against the inside of a ventricle causing her heart to just stop. Don’t worry, they release her so she can go to an anime con before they readmit her to remove the central line. God I love it, she’s just old enough that I don’t have to feel like an asshole laughing at her but young enough to think “yeah my heart kept stopping but they said it was NBD and I should go to a con” is a reasonable story. She doesn’t really mention it but she got her TPN back thanks to this stunt. Also both her tubes came dislodged at the same time, how weird.
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Next update she says the heart surgery was fine but she got a UTI afterwards. Her gastro wants to try a new pacemaker and more frequent tube changes to see if that helps. And her ketamine infusions are restarting. But oh, she posts a new account, chronic_cosplays.
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The account actually started a year prior when it was just her spam account for posting “memes and gay shit.”
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It’s mostly just anime sperging but cut through with her constant theme: she is awkward and can’t make friends because outside of this fairly recent anime interest, her only personality is illness.
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In May she saw a dentist and had 12 cavities. Her dentist says she’s not taking care of her oral hygiene and her mom is furious that this is going to be expensive to fix but she says it’s just her diseases, honestly. I do wonder if it doesn’t have to do with her being drugged out of her gourd every day. The comments are fascinating.
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As a genderspecial she cosplayed as boy characters for Holiday Matsuri but also wore her usual winged eyeliner, as all boys tend to do.
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Then there’s this one where she’s a cheerleader with her belly out but at least she shows she has mild hypermobility in one elbow.
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I don’t know what to tell you guys about this. I didn’t find this account on my first pass and my life was better for it. But now that I’ve seen it you have to share in my trauma.
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When she’s with her nerd friends she basically gives up all pretense that there’s something wrong with her. She stays in the wheelchair for the most part but she also gets out of it for photoshoots including several where she’s crouching or kneeling, assumes all sorts of goofy positions, and basically acts like every other nerd there. After years of treating everyone as accessories to her illness, she now has friends who just like her for who she is.
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In February she says she had to take a cosplay break for more ketamine treatments but then she’s right back to being goofy with her friends in costumes.
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For rare disease day she says nothing on her main grid but on her cosplay page she tells us she has CRPS, dysautonomia, GP, EDS, MCAD, osteoporosis and mitochondiral disorder. Lol. There’s a geneticist formerly in Jacksonville, now in Palm Beach named Dr. Paldeep Atwal who specializes in diagnosing EDS and mitochondrial diseases based on your reported symptoms, even over telehealth without ever meeting you. His website even says that he doesn’t do genetic testing unless it’s necessary because he’s just so brilliant he can diagnose you without it. He’s the one who gave Jaquie her mitochondrial disease diagnosis (and also IIRC the first one to put EDS in her chart before she saw Trevino). So if Natalia is not just making it up on her side account for attention, then my guess is she’s seen yet another diagnosis mill. While she continues to claim osteoporosis she hasn’t brought up Mito again since this post.
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Except in this one story post on her main insta where she’s also claiming mastocytosis. No mention of a bone marrow biopsy which is how that’s diagnosed.
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Since we’re here anyway, here’s some more of her health Q&A story posts.
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Here’s a more complete version of the injury that caused her problems: she was fucking around with her dad while watching an MMA match, went to play-kick him, he grabbed her by the leg and threw her off balance, and she landed on her hand. Mom ices it like a normal injury. The next day they go to Chuck E. Cheese’s where her hand swells up so her mom goes to the drug store and buys an OTC splint. The first time a doctor saw this injury was two days after she posted the “sprained my hand” pic, when her teachers saw how bad it was and had her sent home. ER told her to follow up with her PCP who referred her to pediatric sports medicine who called in rheumatology. Everyone was stumped by the fact that her hand was purple and ice cold and when she walked the arm just hung down limply like she had no use of it. Blood tests were normal, MRIs showed severe inflammation, biopsy for fasciitis was negative, surgeon says it’s CRPS and tells them to go to the pain clinic. Mom stays the course bringing her to OT as prescribed, but seeing Natalia in pain makes her change her mind and bring her to the pain clinic. Pain clinic immediately recognized it as CRPS and admitted her for the nerve block.
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I’ll be honest, I rarely see the difference she’s expecting me to see but in this case I’m going to take her word that she really was having problems based on the response it got. After getting a nerve block she was able to complete an OT program and get back to life for a while.
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And the GP story. She started with constipation and stomach aches as a kid. When she was 13 she started vomiting anything that wasn’t liquid but all the tests only showed mild dysmotility. An x-ray showed she was “literally full of shit” and that the constipation was why she couldn’t eat. That can’t have anything with the medications she’s on, I’m sure. The NG things I thought were manometry probes? Nope, they were trying to clean out her backed-up booty-chute with golytely without making her puke it all up. This allowed her to go out for dinner for one last time for her birthday. That night she got hospitalized for POTS and wouldn’t eat. The hospital thought she’s got an eating disorder and discharged her. She was sent to Arnold Palmer where she got another NG that I thought was esophageal manometry. That one was actually a dual manometry that tested both her rectum and her duodenum/pylorus with probes while she was given various things through the other tube. The fundus story just sounds like either a conversion disorder or something she’s doing on purpose.
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And here’s a clear look at her teeth. They look more neglect/dry mouth/tartar issues than the bulimics with their see-through enamel eroded teeth we usually see here. Way more like Katie Stanina whose teeth went to shit from the induced coma and her epilepsy medications.
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Back to main and now she’s proud to be disabled, transmasculine, genderfluid, bisexual girl in need of attention. Her pronoun pin says she uses he/him pronouns today. Oh gosh, how could I be so foolish. She has no eyeliner and an edgy side shave today, that means she is a real boy. Or I’m not supposed to assume her gender. Or something. Who knows?
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July 5th we get a new medical update. She has a new tube placed under anesthesia so they can also do pyloric botox and an endoscopy at the same time. After that she’s puking up feeds nonstop so shes taken to the ER in Tampa with “another ileus.” So the first one was an obstruction? Or she had another one she didn’t tell us about on this account? She lost 8 lbs in a week and got put on TPN. After two weeks of vomiting and complaining of extreme pain and an inability to raise her feeds at Tampa they realize she’s malingering and send her home. That night she claimed she vomited blood so she called her gastro at Arnold Palmer who direct admitted her for a new scope. Endoscopy and CT both come back normal, biopsy shows an infection. She gets an extra special trip in the children’s hospital critical care ambu for a Dexa scan! Then they also send her home to figure it out on her own because after treating the infection she’s still screaming about pain and not being able to raise her rate.
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Over on the cosplay account, I wonder why she suddenly decided she was a sometimes-gay sometimes-man who likes winged eyeliner. Anime, not even once.
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On her regular account she says that in September (posted in November*) her line got infected yet again, cultures came back positive. Her mom didn’t believe it because before she felt like she was dying when it was infected and this time she just felt like she had a bit of a cold so her mom refused to take her to the ER. Instead they waited days then brought her to the PCP who said it was probably a false positive and ordered new cultures. Home health refuses to send a nurse for that so they end up in the ER anyway where it turns out it is infected. She’s back in her favorite nest, the cancer kid floor. They give her vancomycin which kicked her directly in the kidneys and she says they were considering dialysis if it didn’t normalize. A few days later she finally develops the expected symptoms. Something about this story is so fucking weird and I can't pinpoint it. (*at this point all of her posts start to be on a delay. Shit that happens in July doesn’t get mentioned until February. So don’t go by the dates she posted.)
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She turns 18 and she is officially medically emancipated just like she said she wanted.
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The days leading up to her birthday she was getting her K-hole on again. She slept through her birthday and only was awake to blow out her candles because of the infusions. On the 18th she’s back in school and notices her feeding tube stoma is leaking. The school nurse calls her mom to come get her because she’s covered in stomach juice. At home, mom calls the GI who says to take her to St. Joe’s locally or Arnold Palmer where the GI is based, and they elect Palmer two hours away. In the car on the way there her tube just falls out of her body somehow. Once at the hospital her mom is still going through security when Natalia rolls up to register. When told her mom needs to do that, she replies that she’s 18 so it’s fine. The staff tell her she’s now an adult and this is no longer her place but because her GI told her to come they make an exception. Turns out all this time she’s had a tube no one told them they should be periodically checking the balloon and refilling it as needed to keep the tube from popping out. Less generously, they knew that balloon was full of water and that you can use any syringe to drain it and cause a problem. Natalia has told us her mom administers meds to her while she’s sleeping. So if we go with the by-proxy angle, then maybe mom is draining that bad boy and Natalia isn’t even aware of it. If we’re going with the Natalia-is-the-problem and mom is just a mama bear who believes her daughter line, then Natalia’s draining it and mom is unaware. Or maybe they both know and wanted to see what would happen at the hospital now that she’s 18.
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you can even kind of see the snapchat caption where she’s excited for her first hospital band that has 18 on it
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Also am I really supposed to believe her mom keeps buying these elaborate cakes every year but she doesn’t even give em’ a taste? I mean now she can drain them and admit she drained the juice so I assumed she ate it and tried to suck it back out of her tube, but in previous years she had the NJ she couldn’t drain. Bit funny that her weight has only gone up since she got the purge tube huh?
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Back to the cosplay account because WHY OH GOD WHY DID I FIND THIS ACCOUNT? I did not find this until I was pre-post checking my work. I do like the cast-off wheelchair in the background, and the fact that these two females think there’s anything “yaoi” about what they’re doing right here.
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(yes the other blob is a female, and she was actually kind of cute before fast food and gender-juice ruined her.
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Unfortunately she transitioned into Yaniv in the last few years. Sad many such cases. She even claims she passes well now which is a funny way to say “I am ugly enough that people correctly guess I want to be called man words.”)
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In May 2019 Natalia tells us on main that she has a major surgery she’s been keeping a secret and she was supposed to get it in April at Tampa General, the hospital she previously said doesn’t believe in CRPS. She shows up with a fever and anesthesia says they’re not touching her line until she gets cleared by the ER. Natalia squawks at the surgeon who says nope, can’t force anesthesia to change their mind. They head to the ER at St. Joe’s Children’s instead of Tampa General, where she’s cultured and told to go home because everything looks fine. They then call and say actually it is infected and she needs to get back there ASAP but now she’s having a little baby tantrum and takes as long as possible. “They discharged me so if I die, it’s on them” she says as she fucks around with a jigsaw puzzle instead of getting treated for her life-threatening infection. She’s admitted, has her line pulled, gets her kidneys used as punching bags by various antibiotics again. But worse than all that, they traumatized her by calling her on her bullshit and discharging her without a central line or IV fluids, into a world where she’d soon die of dehydration or have to go to an adult emergency room for her life-saving salt water.
Not mentioned: that’s also the route she gets her ketamine infusions through. She promises to update soon with the story of her first adult admission.
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So to review: Natalia wanted to be a medically emancipated adult, but she wants to still be in pediatrics with the Child Life experience and all the staff telling her what a brave little girl she is. When something doesn’t go the way she wants she decides to fuck around while saying it’s the hospital’s fault if she finds out. After this she takes several months off of posting.
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Over on her cosplay account she’s just reposting these titty shots because she doesn’t feel I have suffered enough yet. Didn’t Gypsy use cosplay as a way to subvert her mother’s stranglehold on her life?
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Finally in August we get a really good view of just how big she has gotten while claiming a total inability to even drink a sip of water without it instantly rejecting, with a story about her first time in the adult hospital. Discharged with no central line she throws caution to the wind and goes for a swim, then goes to her school prom which is miserable because no one at school likes her. She dehydrates herself until she’s passing out constantly and what little urine she passes is dark. She’s taken to St. Joe’s ER but the adult side. Her mom initially tries to speak for her but the doctor brushes her off and asks Natalia directly about the fainting episodes. She repeats the same thing her mom said about dysautonomia crashes and needing a central line. They admit her for obs just to make sure it’s only dehydration with no apparent intention of replacing the line. For whatever reason, they eventually decide to do a Hickman but tell her no anesthesia, she’s a grown up now and they’re doing it with local. Uhhh excuse u miss ma’am, she’ll have you know Childrens did GA for even a simple tube change! They didn’t put all her allergies or her correct weight on the board which is extremely dangerous and ignored her when they corrected her. Natalia wants to be admitted but the nurse says she can just be discharged with a few days of percocet now that she has the line. Instead mom tells them to admit her and leaves Natalia alone in the hospital so she can go to her other daughter’s recital. They put her in a room with a camera pointing at the bed but assure her it’s off. The nurses are so dumb and ignorant and Natalia, who attends high school for 3 hours a day much of which is spent nodding off from her drugs, always has to correct them on how to do their jobs right (until they give her some sleepy-time tablets.)
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And here’s where we talk about the grift her family is on. She’s managed to get approved for make-a-wish and she asked for a dream vacation for her and her family. In the weeks leading up to that she needs a GJ surgery but how can she when the only day her pediatric gastroenterologist can work on it is the same day she’s headed to pediatric pain camp? She gets a last-minute slot on 5 July and gets to show off her new custom hospital gown. She asks if, while they’re there, they’ll do a CT angiogram for MALS and the GI agrees. So she gets all the drugs she could possibly dream of, a shiny new GJ, a little pre-CT GoLytely booty-blaster, and iron. They do the CT while she’s still drugged to another dimension and it’s negative for MALS but also her lung is collapsed and her kidney is swollen. NBD they discharge her and send her on her way!
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Also her new custom hospital gown is embroidered with the name “Nate.”
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She got to do something called Make-a-Dish as part of her make-a-wish program, which gets her on TV. lShe’s excited that she gets her favorite lemon cookies from her favorite restaurant. But I thought even a sip of water makes her vomit. I guess now that she can try to “drain” the food out of her g-port the whole thing where food can’t pass her fundus no longer exists. (If she’s doing this, she’s hilariously inefficient at it.)
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You can tell she is a true n’ honest transmasc because her hat is on backwards. Also that is a new wheelchair. It’s a Quickie 2 folding manual with power assist wheels, a big step up from the Drive Blue Streak she’s been using for years. Wearing the seatbelt is for nerds tho.
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Speaking of scamming charities meant for very ill children she’s back at camp and now has a neck brace we’ve never seen before. This is her last year because she ages out of this too.
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Her make-a-wish happens. We learn she was referred there by Dr. Safder, the pediatric gastro, and found out she’d been approved on her 18th birthday. Her pre-wish week when she did the make-a-dish thing, she failed to tell us that she also got a full Italian dinner at Maggiano’s with her family and a year’s supply of Krispy Kreme donuts… for the wish that she got based on her gastro telling them she can’t eat and her whole digestive system has failed. Yep. Moving on, the day of the trip rolls around and of course she has to find someone who treats her badly: the TSA staff who drop her wheelchair wheels and are way too frisky as they check her. In case you missed the location tag: Barcelona, Spain. Yeah they scammed this charity to give her, her mom, and her sister a free trip to Europe for a week.
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On the plane, she passes out (literally!!!!!) over and over for hours from the cabin pressure and screamed in pain every time she came to which I’m sure was pleasant for everyone else on the flight. The driver that was set to pick them up at the airport takes one look at all the crap they’ve brought and her wheelchair and says he can’t accommodate them and since it’s 3am EST no one picks up at Make-a-Wish. Mom gets a cab for Natalia, her sister, and the wheelchair to head on without her. She doesn’t tell us about the good parts of the trip which was a Norwegian cruise around the Mediterranean, just the inconveniences, because she’s an ungrateful little shit. And fitting for someone who got this trip based on her alleged inability to eat, most of the photos she shares from the cruise are of the food she ate.
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In March 2020, months after her trip was over, she made this video where she talks about how your Wish might be delayed for covid but don't worry, it'll still happen and it'll be better for having waited for it! Says the woman at no real risk of dying to the cancer kids with wiped out immune systems who might not survive covid if they catch it, if the cancer doesn't kill them first. Who's the dog, you ask?


Malikai (or Malachi depending on the day) is Natalia's SDIT and she needs YOU to pay for his training and expenses! That's a friend of hers standing with him, allegedly, because she never raised enough money to see a real trainer so a random friend who claims to be a dog trainer is just as good.
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(In the comments of one of the facebook posts people tell her to see a Dr. Burkholder in Houston. He’s a pediatric cardiologist who studies EDS and POTS and tells all these girls what they want to hear, of course.)
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Malikai becomes a real service dog despite learning almost nothing and being afraid of life. She never posts about him and rarely shows him.
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Back to the cosplay account. She turns 19. Thankfully after this she makes only a few more boring posts and never updates it again.
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Dance Moms alum Maddie Zeigler played an autist in some movie no one saw and this affected Natalia personally as another healthy individual who wants to pretend to be disabled in movies. I forgot Sia also claims to have EDS. How trendy.
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She posted a story saying she was a Moffitt Cancer Center to make all her followers worried then once she got an acceptable number of asspats she made a grid post to say she doesn’t have cancer. She has a mutated BRCA2 gene and a strong history of associated cancers in her family. She’s getting a breast MRI and monitoring to make sure nothing is already going wrong then they’ll decide what to do to prevent anything from going wrong in the future. She chimps out because people wrongly say that only FEMALES can get ovarian cancer and she’s NONBINARY. Yeah mother nature’s a real terf huh? Reminding you that biological sex is real, important, and very binary all the time? Man Natalia, sounds like some things aren’t always about you and only you. The vast majority of women don’t want to be called “uterus havers” or “people with ovaries” or “birthing bodies” when we’re being screened for cancers that only affect women because it’s dehumanizing us to protect the ever-so-fragile feelings of a tiny minority of screeching pants-shitters like you. And even if they did all this you’d just find something else to get your tampon in a twist over.
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An amazing opportunity to steal a rare modeling opportunity away from someone who is actually disabled. Just like Maddie Ziegler in that movie!
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But it does give us the crossover we all wanted but were afraid to ask for: she hangs out with a not-yet-pregnant Alex Dacy/Wheelchair Rapunzel.
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She also got to model for the rent-a-cripple rent-a-queer corporate pride campaign Kohls ran that year.
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Titty MRI. It’s funny that being reminded that this is a women’s health issue she’s going through and men don’t need regular breast cancer screening causes her intense gender dysphoria but having breasts in general does not. She doesn’t really want to get rid of them and seems very hesitant about the fact that a preventative mastectomy might be in her future.
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Of course she’s using it for all the cancer clout she can muster, calling herself a “previvor” because she has an elevated risk of cancer and needs regular screenings. She’s also now claiming Craniocervical instability.
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At the tender age of almost 21, with everyone holding her hand the entire way, Natalia finally graduates from a Florida public school. The most rigorous of academic institutions, as we all know.
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(She turned 22 in Oct 2022 and graduated in May 2021.)
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Sometimes it feels like they’re trying to convince themselves more than they’re trying to convince the people who they believe have wronged them.
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“In 1 in 78 people with ovaries...” Women. We’re called women. This disease kills women and only women because only women have ovaries. No man will ever have to worry about this cancer because no man has ovaries. Denying this and muddying the water with gender newspeak to protect your own feelings is killing more women.
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She turns 21 and mentions her father for once, saying he has unresolved trauma from his mother dying in her 50s and he also has other issues she won’t discuss. She announces that after all her screens came back negative a biopsy did show she had some cancerous cells in one of her tiddies. It’s nothing that currently needs intervention. Gender isn’t about stereotypes but the fact that they use pink for breast cancer makes her so dysphoric. She’s planning to keep her titties intact until she’s 30 and her ovaries until shes 40. Hmm could it be that our non-binary not-a-female plans to do the most female thing imaginable and get pregnant in the future? Wonder how carrying a pregnancy and giving birth will do for her dysphoria. Probably fine as long as they tell her it’s a neutral act of reproduction by her ungendered birthing body. As a side note, remember back a few years ago when she was whining that breast cancer awareness totally overshadowed her passy-outy disease’s awareness period and if you really cared about her you’d wear blue instead of pink? Turns out even when she has a legitimate way to insert herself into breast cancer awareness she’s completely fucking insufferable about it because it’s not centering her and her feelings.
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She also drops the act in the comments when she’s trying to play martyr and suddenly acknowledges that only a little girl has to worry about this gene because only a girl-child grows into a female adult and only a female adult has to worry about ovarian cancer.
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And lo, we are approaching the money shot. She’s claiming that at age 13 she was “medically kidnapped” and told her parents have abandoned her and she’s going to be placed in foster care. She’ll give us the details of this but not yet… not yet.
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She’s mentioned this once before in a story post, saying her mother was accused of munchausen-by-proxy on multiple occasions and now is on “high alert” with doctors. Huh, maybe that’s why mom never wants to take her to the ER when she’s showing signs of sepsis or when she might be having a bowel obstruction. That’s also maybe why Natalia wanted to be medically emancipated. Not to get away from mom but because she thought if she was a legal adult and making her own decision the doctors would not think her mom was involved anymore and she would stop being viewed with suspicion/would not keep her from the drugs and surgeries she swears she needs.
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This nurse at the titty cancer clinic respects Natalia's more-special-than-other-women-facing-this-cancer status!
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At this point she has basically stopped posting on insta grid and is only on stories.
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Which means we almost missed the ultra-expensive power chair she grifted insurance for! Now she just needs an accessible vehicle for it because she can’t leave the house in this until she gets one. Gib. I love when they give away how little they need the support their chairs provide like I'm sure that head rest is really helping your severe CCI when your head is 12" away from it. The dog with her is a pet named JJ and I think that's just a normal harness on him. She never mentioned using him as a SD. So she claims she needs this chair because she can't self propel due to CRPS or EDS or whatever excuse is most convienient.
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Wheelchair basketball is fine tho lmao.
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And archery.
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And volleyball. A volleyball injury gives her the worst CRPS “flair” she’s had in forever so now she has a shoulder release for her bow.
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Now claiming sensory processing disorder and that she doesn’t wash her face because of it.
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SEE. The QT recognize on paper that corporate pride is a bad thing but not that they are the reason it’s a thing to begin with. The next post is her at a pride event wearing vanity pronoun and bisexual flag shirts. She was in one of these corporate pride ads for Kohls and rides on a corporate pride float in the parade. And still doesn’t see that the problem she’s complaining about is herself.
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Now claiming she’s hard of hearing. If you’ll remember waaay back when she was like 12 she was claiming to be fluent in ASL and that was long before she got her hearing tested. Reminds me of Abby Sams who was obsessed with capital-D Deaf culture to the point of learning ASL trying to identify into it and used minor hearing loss in one ear as her reason she should be included (but the capital-D Deaf people wouldn’t even give her a sign name.) She’s also bragging about catfishing people on dating apps.
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Just so you guys know, she actually looks like this. Absolutely wasting away from her severe gastroparesis. This is the body of someone with total paralysis of the digestive system, Kiwis. Take note. (how many free Krispy Kremes do you think she ate?)
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Shilling that gender neutral underpants brand Shelby used to model for, Tomboy X. Sports bras are totes gender neut now, guys. What luck for those men with gyenaemastica!
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Her dental situation did not improve and she lets us know that just before she turned 18 they elected to have most of her teeth pulled rather than trying to fix the mess that she created. She now wears dentures. And makeup and a normal bra. I guess she's feeling female today.
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It’s Rose (REEEEE!!!) and Willow who are both gender-retarded Trevino munchies who barnacle themselves to everyone. Most well-known for getting in a fight with Mel Lucas and New Horizons and by extension Rachel Denton after Willow’s new horizons service dog R2D2 – trained by Rachel and a friend – allegedly attacked Rose’s reactive shitstarter of an owner-trained service dog, Oliver. They later claimed the same thing happened with Gnar, a border collie that was trained by Mel. It took Rose like a year to admit that Oliver was such an obnoxious shithead that she had to keep him closed up in a room all day to keep him from baiting their other dogs into fights. She now has a standard poodle "service dog" that does nothing. Willow has been private for as long as I've been watching the floridians.
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I didn't want to make this four parts but trying to fit it into three wasn't working out so we have to stop here. I promise the last part won't take me a week to upload and will answer some but not all of the questions you may have.
 
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Discharged with no central line she throws caution to the wind and goes for a swim, then goes to her school prom which is miserable because no one at school likes her.
"Why does no one here like me?!"
*Leaks stomach fluid everywhere on purpose.*
Of course she’s using it for all the cancer clout she can muster, calling herself a “previvor” because she has an elevated risk of cancer and needs regular screenings.
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She’s also now claiming Craniocervical instability.
Of course, the one that CFS munchie documentarian made famous. Just as much a trend in its own right as GP, EDS, MCAS etc.
Now claiming sensory processing disorder and that she doesn’t wash her face because of it.
You'd have to be low functioning to truly have SPD too badly to wash your own face. She'd be nonverbal and painting the walls with shit if that were the case. At least she doesn't have to worry about brushing her teeth anymore...
 
Gosh, this girl has tried steroid shots, radio frequency ablation, seven surgeries. She's so compliant with treatment and she's still in so much pain. She's got gastric issues and NSAIDs make her vomit more than she usually does. I guess there's only one thing left to try.
"I think it's name starts with D...dililu..."
 
But it does give us the crossover we all wanted but were afraid to ask for: she hangs out with a not-yet-pregnant Alex Dacy/Wheelchair Rapunzel.

Don't get me wrong: Alex is horrible and never should have reproduced. However, she was also born with a horrible disease that leaves her unable to do much of anything for herself and has never in her life been able to take a step. She turns 30 this month and has pointed out that her 10 month old daughter has more strength than she does, and it's true: a baby who can grip is a lot stronger than Alex is now or ever has been.

I just wonder what kind of unmitigated gall to pose next to someone like Alex, who is profoundly disabled to the point she can barely swallow. Natalia here just hops/waddles out of her chair for cosplay photo ops and basically spends her days in a pain pill coma. It's just very punchable behavior.

As a side note, I've also seen pictures of Alex with Julian/Shelby. I keep meaning to scan her Instagram account for others I recognize from this thread, but I keep getting assaulted by Alex's nudes.

Final note that doesn't fit with the rest of this post but needs to be said: Natalia is extremely obnoxious. She's particularly nasty when she's calling medical staff bitches, stupid, old, ignorant, deaf, and on and on. And she's extremely ungrateful. And I won't be sorry if she ends up being bitch-slapped by reality, because I myself am a petty bitch at times.

PS: If you want to see how actually-disabled people can be horrible and cow-ish, come join us in Alex's thread!
 
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