Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[motts337]

No way, rebooting is a violation of the Rippaverse Code of Ethics. It's one of the three defining features of Rippaverse Comics, along with 'not getting all racial in the comic' and 'not telling the customer to shut up'. Also to retcon stuff you need to establish definite facts about the characters and world to retcon, which seems to be a much bigger problem with July's comics than the need to retcon itself.

Eric has blocked tons of his customers on twitter and YT in the past month so there goes that "code of ethics "

 

[Sourskittles]

Eric has blocked tons of his customers on twitter and YT in the past month so there goes that "code of ethics "

EVS does the same. Go ask poor Sketch Therapy. There goes the CG "code of ethics"

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Eric has blocked tons of his customers on twitter and YT in the past month so there goes that "code of ethics "

EVS blocks people now too. He didn't in the early days because he farmed that shit for content.

People either weren't around or seem to forget that in the beginning of EVS' CG people were throwing tons of money at those campaigns not because of the "great art" but because they believed they were supporting a new movement being lead by people who were blacklisted from their careers due to their political beliefs. Tons of those CG campaigns were total trash but he happily pumped them anyway. People are throwing money at July to support his "movement" the same way. July is just much better at business than EVS and he can't stand it.

 

[Rupin]

EVS blocks people now too. He didn't in the early days because he farmed that shit for content.

People either weren't around or seem to forget that in the beginning of EVS' CG people were throwing tons of money at those campaigns not because of the "great art" but because they believed they were supporting a new movement being lead by people who were blacklisted from their careers due to their political beliefs. Tons of those CG campaigns were total trash but he happily pumped them anyway. People are throwing money at July to support his "movement" the same way. July is just much better at business than EVS and he can't stand it.

I remember how he much he defended World Class Bullshitter’s Star Wars comic comparing the art to Joe Quesada’s. It was only after they fell out with the FNT crowd that EVS kicked them to the wayside,

 

[Fascist Kirk]

What is funny is that a lot of people in the indie comics sphere are coming on to the Kiwi Farms and are learning about Juju and Vito. Let's just say they are both uncomfortable and not happy with EVS cozying up to these people. I'm pretty sure EVS has been getting a lot of DM's from people posting pictures of evidence that the Farms gathered on Juju, Vito and the rest of the Whack Pack and are asking EVS; "what the hell". Hence the creeping realization and panic setting in right now. EVS really is a boomer faggot. He failed to realize that the Internet is forever and sites like Kiwi Farms record and document all this shit like Vito's CSAM of the Columbine victims for the rest of the Internet to find and see. Goes to show what poor Opsec EVS has. So much for being that mastermind mob boss. Go and cope eat another Goldbelly pie Ethan. Will help with being felted.

I agree and would take it a step further. A year ago around and about the time @FROG left the farms, he was already plotting to take out Eric July at the same time Eric July was the only Buddy Ethan had left with The FNT and FMenace movement. He knows his password, he won't come back because he (like you Said @PaladinBoo) He knows this thread will call out his bullshit.

Ethan Larp's in his mind Like Tony Soprano, and it worked for years. I think he fucked up, and I honestly believe Ethan Van Sciver Will be LolCow of the year 2024, we are only 23 days in! LFG!

 

[That Other Dude's Persona]

Nexus Origin is 48 pages and we know the characters motivation, his family and his powers by page 10.

Bruh, that's the worst possible example. Even ignoring the fact that you're talking about superstars like Mike Baron and Steve Rude, and Nexus Origin being a reworked retelling of the story 10 years after it was first released, the whole inspiration behind Nexus are comic strips, which have a tradition of introducing origins in just a few panels. You just don't get that kind of structure in modern indie books anymore.

I don't know how you're complaining about July telling & not showing and at the same time want super-strength explained to you though.

 

[TheTimeWizard]

Isom 1&2 are a combined 200 pages and we still don't know what his powers are

Eric pretty much breaks the show don't tell rule on every page

lol. lmao even

 

[Retink Retunk]

July is just much better at business than EVS and he can't stand it.

A lot of that is just shipping out a comic on time instead of 3 years late. A surprisingly low bar to please the customer that EVS can't overcome due to the weight of his gunt keeping him on the ground.

 

[huckbeine]

motts337, at least tell us if you're gargling EVS's cock for how much or if you are doing it for free​

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

A lot of that is just shipping out a comic on time instead of 3 years late. A surprisingly low bar to please the customer that EVS can't overcome due to the weight of his gunt keeping him on the ground.

July also built his own digital storefront and more importantly his own payment processor, which means he doesn't have to give 20% or whatever to IGG or Kickstarter. He keeps it all. I argued with him here in this thread at the time saying that could be a big mistake at first since having your payment system go down on Day 1 could damage the brand but he pulled it off despite a few initial hiccups.

 

[Retink Retunk]

July also built his own digital storefront and more importantly his own payment processor, which means he doesn't have to give 20% or whatever to IGG or Kickstarter. He keeps it all. I argued with him here at the time saying that could be a big mistake at first since having your payments go down on Day 1 could damage the brand but he pulled it off despite a few initial hiccups.

The sad part is it's hilariously easy to do both, and the platforms take about 5% on top of the transaction fees the payment processor takes which is a wash of 3-4%. That might not sound like a lot, but it adds up to thousands on big campaigns and the platform keeps all of the info of the supporters as far as I know so it's harder to reach out to them for future campaigns and products unlike with a website where they can have direct communication with supporters.

Payment processing is also usually a plug and play solution from either one of the big processors or a bank directly, so it's highly unlikely it goes down unless you screw something up or get hit with a velocity attack because you didn't have basic safe guards.

Edit: Oh, wait, it can be way worse than 5% at IGG's discretion, lol, lmao even.

The InDemand fee for campaigns that did not originally run on Indiegogo is an 8% platform fee, with a 15% (total) fee on any funds driven by Indiegogo's platform channels. Third party payment processing fees also apply.

And

Transfer Fee: Transfer fees, or Bank Delivery Fees, are applied each time we send funds to your bank account.

 

[GPRIMACADO]

The missing finger could be explained away as an artistic choice, but the position of where it connects with the wrist is a dead giveaway that it's a fuck up. In fact that whole arm looks like it was drawn by someone who was very fucking drunk. Not to mention that leg which absolutely should not be bending that way.

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SO he drew the cover with 4 fingers only to have Kyle or someone photoshop the pinkie finger next to middle finger. He is all over the place with where the fingers are. LMAO


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Ethan still complaining about "mUh 3d mOdElS". Not realizing modern lightboxing is having a 3d model turned in any 360 position that can be screenshot. Then used in Illustrator with opacity level being half, to graft in the model or background.


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More drama farming as Ethan continues his now 2 week sperging. Mind you his profile states "Drama-Free" and was not on his profile 5 months ago via Waybackmachine Archive.


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"Why not just trace it?" - Ethan Van Sciver

LMAO Ethan is getting his shit pushed in left and right on this tracing issue.

 

[Magic Sun Daddy]

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Interesting, it's almost like he's reading somewhere where's the updates?

Is it normal for the panels to be so large? The only panels that would warrant such a size would be the one where LGBT Brock Lesnar gets the drink slapped out of his hand and the group shot of the bears corralling around him. One instigates the conflict and the other illustrates the scope of the threat. The panels of him ordering and downing his drink didn't have to be as large as they were.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

The sad part is it's hilariously easy to do both, and the platforms take about 5% on top of the transaction fees the payment processor takes which is a wash of 3-4%. That might not sound like a lot, but it adds up to thousands on big campaigns and the platform keeps all of the info of the supporters as far as I know so it's harder to reach out to them for future campaigns and products unlike with a website where they can have direct communication with supporters.

Payment processing is also usually a plug and play solution from either one of the big processors or a bank directly, so it's highly unlikely it goes down unless you screw something up or get hit with a velocity attack because you didn't have basic safe guards.

Edit: Oh, wait, it can be way worse than 5% at IGG's discretion, lol, lmao even.



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July's accomplishment with his payment processing is even more impressive when you look at those first day's sales blowing away anybody's expectations by an order of magnitude. Nobody saw that volume coming. If his system had crashed and burned for a few days it could've done long-term damage to his efforts and I didn't think that risk was worth it given everything else he was attempting simultaneously for the very first time.

There's always going to be the transaction fees from the credit cards themselves but I think IGG hits you with those too on top of the percentage they take for themselves. Bottom line is that extra pile of money that July is able to keep that CG'er aren't is likely paying for the employees, warehouse and fulfillment process that EVS mocks him for even having!

 

[GPRIMACADO]

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Strix454]

I don't think you know anything about comics or your knowledge is limited no offense. Isom 1&2 are a combined 200 pages and we still don't know what his powers are and who he is. The art has been found to be 3d models plopped down on a page with barely any rendering over it. Eric pretty much breaks the show don't tell rule on every page. Halfway through Isom 2 I wanted to throw the book out the window it was so frustrating to read. I'll use a Mike Baron book as a comparison. Nexus Origin is 48 pages and we know the characters motivation, his family and his powers by page 10. Isom is a tedious mess.

No offense, but I'm not defending Isom as a great comic. I'm saying that its no better and no worse than any of the other the comics that comicsgate has been producing. And that in particular Ethan Van Sciver doesn't have a leg to stand on in being critical of Isom given the quality of work he has produced since 2018. I don't find it anything other than a very average professionally produced superhero comic.

And while Ethan Van Sciver is fanatically boomer about pen, ink and bristol board being the only way to do comics, alot of the world has moved on. Digital tools and 3D assets are how things are done now. Grandpa Ethan can talk about the good ol days, but Grandpa Ethan's comics are created by Kyle Ritter digitally re-drawing them. All the work Ethan does with pencil and ink ends up being not much more than layouts for art that is produced via digital re-drawing.

Ethan tells you that 3D assets are bad and unacceptable. But he isn't going to talk about the digital tools are clearly being used to produce the art in Cyberfrog. Just like Ethan is going to cry about "tracing" while Ethan has at other times bragged about using a lightbox.

I really have to respect your "expertise" though. Nexus was originally published in 1981 as a homage to Space Ghost. It wasn't really necessary to explain much about the character because it was originally a swipe of other people's work.

Nexus the Origin was published in 1991. After the character had been around for TEN YEARS. It received three Eisner awards. After ten years of writing and publishing Nexus, they did have how to introduce a Nexus story down to a science. But is it fair to compare a story ten years into the character to a story introducing a character?

So you, as an "expert" want to tell me that Isom is a total failure because in his first comic published Eric july didn't produce a comic of the year and something worthy of three eisner awards? I mean you are the expert, but that seems a rather high standard.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

And that in particular Ethan Van Sciver doesn't have a leg to stand on in being critical of Isom given the quality of work he has produced since 2018.

I won't be home for a couple days but when I do I'll dig out the headsketches he did for the books I have. There's a reason you don't see many, he spent about 90 seconds on them. I kinda get it considering how many of them he had to do (at first) but still, don't charge that amount if you won't put in at least a little effort.

 

[huckbeine]

even Hayao Miyazaki resorted to digital tools in the end

 

[motts337]

EVS blocks people now too. He didn't in the early days because he farmed that shit for content.

People either weren't around or seem to forget that in the beginning of EVS' CG people were throwing tons of money at those campaigns not because of the "great art" but because they believed they were supporting a new movement being lead by people who were blacklisted from their careers due to their political beliefs. Tons of those CG campaigns were total trash but he happily pumped them anyway. People are throwing money at July to support his "movement" the same way. July is just much better at business than EVS and he can't stand it.

I'm not defending cg or Ethan but Eric put out a video saying he hasn't even made a profit and I think he has too many employees to pay. You're supposed to pay yourself first when you own a business

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I'm not defending cg or Ethan but Eric put out a video saying he hasn't even made a profit and I think he has too many employees to pay. You're supposed to pay yourself first when you own a business

Profit is what's left after you've already paid yourself (if you even do pay yourself at first, most small-business owners don't). You're supposed to put your profits back into the business if you want to build it.