US Elon Musk calls for unmasking of Patriot Front: 'just follow them' - "Seems like they should be followed and unmasked," Musk said.

On Sunday, X owner Elon Musk called for members of the Patriot Front organization to be unmasked and questioned "Why doesn't the media or government care about their identities?" He asked.

The comment came in response to X user Wall Street Silver, who theorized, "The fact that the legacy media shows zero curiosity about unmasking these guys, tells us 100% that these are federal agents or paid stooges of one of the agencies."

"Seems like they should be followed and unmasked," Musk said.

On Saturday, a video showed 90-150 individuals marching in lockstep in New York City, escorted by police officers. It was shared across social media. The individuals all wore the same masks and caps.

The group marched through downtown Manhattan making their way down Wall Street. They were also seen near the 9/11 memorial and World Trade Center location, and held a demonstration outside the National Archives with a sign that read, "No Zionists in government."

Left-wing journalist Brian Krassenstien suggested that it would be breaking the law for the government or media to unmask them. "As much as I hate it, even hate has rights, unfortunately," he said.

"Just follow them," Musk responded.

US Rep. Thomas Massie joked in response to the video that they were "On their way to the pipe bomb workshop." He was referencing the recent report that pipe bombs placed outside the RNC and DNC on January 5, 2021, just a day before the J6 protest and riot at the Capitol Building, may have been a hoax that was potentially covered up by the FBI and the Secret Service.

The Marauder Magazine shared a video from BG On the Scene which showed the Patrot Front group getting into their cars and leaving the area on Saturday. They noted that the License plates on the vehicles were blank.

After a Patriot Front demonstration in May of 2023, police in Washington DC, blocked anyone from following the group into the subway station. This left users to speculate that the authorities have not wanted people to find out who the members are.

The Patriot Front organization is listed as a white supremacist group by the Anti-Defemation League, which "justifies its ideology of hate and intolerance under the guise of preserving the ethnic and cultural origins of its members’ European ancestors."

The organization spreads its message by posting videos online.

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[Merry]

Me mad? You two are the ones arguing for page after page w/ anybody that dares say the shit glows.

I made arguments on page 11 that are very comprehensive. You are throwing around insults, lack any actual arguments, and fail to make counter-arguments to other people's points. Very uncivilized overall. I don't need to be Freud to detect hostility, you are very mad and incapable of being rational.

Here's even more proof because you lack the ability to investigate yourself I guess, Antifa complaining about PF. Take the L with some dignity and honour, humiliating you is not hard.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

I made arguments on page 11 that are very comprehensive. You are throwing around insults, lack any actual arguments, and fail to make counter-arguments to other people's points. Very uncivilized overall. I don't need to be Freud to detect hostility, you are very mad and incapable of being rational.

Here's even more proof because you lack the ability to investigate yourself I guess, Antifa complaining about PF. Take the L with some dignity and honour, humiliating you is not hard.
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Wow, that's really antifa attacking PF you got right there... sure is a major attack!

God all this violence! Nice attempt at moving the goalposts on what constitutes an attack though.

Do better glownigger.

 

[Merry]

Wow, that's really antifa attacking PF you got right there... sure is a major attack!

God all this violence! Nice attempt at moving the goalposts on what constitutes an attack though.

Do better glownigger.

Already answered your Antifa question, selective memory seems to be problem for you, I'd see a doctor for that.

Acknowledging their mutual animosity would prove me right though, so I understand your façade.

I'll be here when you have actual proof of your claims! Good luck!

 

[LurkTrawl]

what changed

It's a long story.

Doesn't matter if you bring up the fact that the J6 protestors would be fine if they just wore masks,

How so? You had family members and friends ratting a lot of them out. Pretty sure it wouldn't have helped that much and besides, it wasn't planned beforehand to go on an unguided tour.

white identitarians in America who are finally adopting more successful and less retarded European methods after decades of clown antics and life ruination.

Like what, for instance?

They're almost certainly here on the farms too.

I forget the guy's UN but there used to be an unironic, open fed here in A&H ages ago. Dunno what happened to him but he seemed to disappear after the KF hack. Pretty friendly/likeable guy, oddly enough.

Also just ask @SIGSEGV as to whether or not feds are on the farms. Or at least have kiwis who are indescribably shitty people willing to get someone vanned for a shitpost.

 

[SIGSEGV]

Also just ask @SIGSEGV as to whether or not feds are on the farms. Or at least have kiwis who are indescribably shitty people willing to get someone vanned for a shitpost.

I was reported by a user here. He showed me the tip he sent to the FBI.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I was reported by a user here. He showed me the tip he sent to the FBI.

Thanks, couldn't remember which it was.

But it's not that far from feds being on the site, which they probably also are.

 

[Merry]

It's a long story.

How so? You had family members and friends ratting a lot of them out. Pretty sure it wouldn't have helped that much and besides, it wasn't planned beforehand to go on an unguided tour.

Like what, for instance?

I forget the guy's UN but there used to be an unironic, open fed here in A&H ages ago. Dunno what happened to him but he seemed to disappear after the KF hack. Pretty friendly/likeable guy, oddly enough.

Also just ask @SIGSEGV as to whether or not feds are on the farms. Or at least have kiwis who are indescribably shitty people willing to get someone vanned for a shitpost.

I'm glad you asked!

1. I did exaggerate that point somewhat for prose, certainly some people would have been arrested still by getting ratted out or by cell tracking. But it would be much much harder to identify the individual J6 protestors via facial recognition alone, and determine their role and location in the protests. It would make prosecution more difficult, even if someone got picked up for their cell pinging in the area at the time. Especially for boomers with a lower Internet footprint. This is indisputable.

2. Multiple fronts for this one. Vetting in nationalist circles in the past often consisted of one meeting, and maybe a person being willing to say a few edgy things. Obviously anyone can say nigger and not really mean it, or just be a dumbass. This made them prone to infiltrators and stupid members. PF vetting consists of multiple meetings, looking for signs of actual intelligence, education on the actual intellectual material backing nationalist thought, consistency and honesty, and a person's overall self-care (fitness, hygiene, actually having a family, etc). There are also the elements of kicking out people who fail to attend mandated events and meetings, not using real names with anyone outside of the highest leadership (in private), and obviously concealing means of tracing one's public identity by concealment. There are more I don't even know, I'm not a member myself, this is what I hear from people in the know and those leaks by the one known successful infiltrator of the org (who didn't manage to significantly disrupt the group, because he didn't know anyone's real names!). If someone claims any of that is bad, then I highly suspect that person wants these people to have their life ruined for their beliefs.

3. Absolutely, feds will do anything to justify their budgets, behaviour, and more power for themselves. I never said do not be cautious of feds, always be wary, always be safe, always be careful! I did say the label has been run into the ground. Especially when people lack good faith arguments or evidence, they simply aren't worth your time when that is established.

If you don't want to join or support PF I really don't care, but it's really gross seeing people slander what I know is genuinely good men for the reasons I laid out before. Men who aren't doing Satanic weird bullshit, plotting murder, or trying to entrap their members. Some are doing it by accident, out of ignorance, and obviously malice.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I did exaggerate somewhat for prose, certainly some people would have been arrested still by getting ratted out or by cell tracking. But it would be much much harder to identify the individual J6 protestors via facial recognition alone, and determine their role and location in the protests. That would make prosecution difficult, even if someone got picked up for their cell pinging in the area at the time. Especially boomers with a lower Internet footprint. This is indisputable.

Sure but I doubt it'd have delayed any of the arrests that have been made thus far by any notable amount.

As for the rest I'll admit when I read the quoted section I originally replied to, I was thinking you meant methods of political action, not methods to conceal their identities.

 

[Merry]

Sure but I doubt it'd have delayed any of the arrests that have been made thus far by any notable amount.

As for the rest I'll admit when I read the quoted section I originally replied to, I was thinking you meant methods of political action, not methods to conceal their identities.

I can't name names for obvious reasons, but I'm aware of people who were at J6 who employed some anonymizing tactics, and that's why they're free right now. I know that's very "my word", but it did shape my opinion on this matter, take that as you see fit.

As for political action, understandable, I can elaborate there too. For one there's not being overtly violent or hostile to everyone, a major trait of classic skinhead gangs and WN militias we can certainly agree. That just paints a target for the media and feds on you.

Charitable actions are something that is not well documented in historical American nationalist efforts, plenty of fist waving but very little genuine action for the poor and needy of their nation they claim to fight for. PF regularly does food drives, disaster relief, and volunteering. You can look at that either cynically or idealistically, either way it speaks for itself.

There is their habit of consistency in the face of opposition, they relentlessly do propaganda campaigns via posters, stickering, banners, billboard covers, graffiti. When their propaganda is defaced, they will replace it multiple times until people give up defacing it, many movements simply get demoralized after a few incidents of that. It's a psychological fact that consistency in maintaining, presenting, and uphold niche beliefs and movements is how they succeed to enter the public consciousness.

There is networking outside of America, they were recently at the Polish Independence march in Warsaw, visiting Casapound HQ in Italy, and holding various visits with groups in France, Germany, and the UK. These are all shown freely on their telegram. This tells me they take themselves seriously to invest resources in that, and other well established serious groups such as Casapound see them seriously enough to host them in their own homeland. I can't think of an American Nationalist movement that has done that since GLR ran the NSM. Maybe an argument could be made for Patrick Buchanan and his party, but that really depends on how grassroots you think his efforts were.

Finally, I know many people dislike the marching. They see it as a larp, or likely to scare people, or silly. But think about it for a second, it gets attention, it gets shared, it gets people to *notice them*. Which is exactly why they do it, not to LARP stormtrooper. Listing most of this off the top of my head FYI, there's probably a few things I've missed or am simply not in the know about.

 

[LurkTrawl]

PF regularly does food drives, disaster relief, and volunteering. You can look at that either cynically or idealistically, either way it speaks for itself. There is their habit of consistency in the face of opposition, they relentlessly do propaganda campaigns via posters, stickering, banners, billboard covers, graffiti. When their propaganda is defaced, they will replace it multiple times until people give up defacing it, many movements simply get demoralized after a few incidents of that. There is networking outside of America, they were recently at the Polish Independence march in Warsaw, visiting Casapound HQ in Italy, and various visits with groups in France, Germany, and the UK. These are all shown freely on their telegram. This tells me they take themselves seriously to invest resources in that, and other well established serious groups such as Casapound see them seriously enough to host them in their own homeland.

And how successful, would you say, this has been? On any front you want to pick from be it awareness, political change, etc. Or all of them that you can think of, even.

 

[Merry]

And how successful, would you say, this has been? On any front you want to pick from be it awareness, political change, etc. Or all of them that you can think of, even.

I'm by no means in a position to objectively say how successful they've been, but giving lonely men positive collective goals, friends, and personal objectives is positive in of itself I'd say. So much better than throwing donations at politicians.

But, from a political science and social psychology perspective, videos of them get millions of views on Xitter. It only takes a few hundred people reading their site and converting to their philosophy to start tipping some dominos, and more than that many are gonna have that happen to them with that many people viewing those videos. That's also ignoring existing propaganda efforts.

They put out public statistics about their activism to their Telegram. Which is uniquely diligent, and another reason I don't immediately throw them into the Trad Worker's Party pile of rejects.

Here's their 2023 records, according to their own words:
"Activists, during 2023, completed a total of 7,334 instances of activism, averaging 20 per day, in 47 states and the District of Columbia"

They also claimed 6,279 instances in 2022 and 8,343 in 2021. Overall. So persistent, there's a reasonable range. Obviously no word on official membership numbers.

So again, I'm seeing good evidence, not just blowing smoke out my ass because they look cool.

 

[LurkTrawl]

giving lonely men positive collective goals, friends, and personal objectives is positive in of itself I'd say

You could do that without the political shit though.

Here's their 2023 records, according to their own words:
"Activists, during 2023, completed a total of 7,334 instances of activism, averaging 20 per day, in 47 states and the District of Columbia"

They also claimed 6,279 instances in 2022 and 8,343 in 2021. Overall. So persistent, there's a reasonable range. Obviously no word on official membership numbers.

You don't find that a bit odd? Those numbers I mean. If you hadn't looked it up, how many 'instances of activism' would you have guessed the group had accomplished?

Which sort of leads into my next point.

But, from a political science and social psychology perspective, videos of them get millions of views on Xitter. It only takes a few hundred people reading their site and converting to their philosophy to start tipping some dominos, and more than that many are gonna have that happen to them with that many people viewing those videos. That's also ignoring existing propaganda efforts.

Isn't that a bit telling too? That out of millions, you'd expect at most a few dozen to a few hundred people would be converted? Seems like a rather bad ratio.

 

[Merry]

You could do that without the political shit though.

You don't find that a bit odd? Those numbers I mean. If you hadn't looked it up, how many 'instances of activism' would you have guessed the group had accomplished?

Which sort of leads into my next point.

Isn't that a bit telling too? That out of millions, you'd expect at most a few dozen to a few hundred people would be converted? Seems like a rather bad ratio.

You could. And it wouldn't last. Those behaviours need a solid foundation of a cultural-philosophical foundation, which translates into social trust. We have low social trust right now, you can only reform that by reforming the nation, and you can only do that via politics.

Odd how? They're protecting information that is a security risk and revealing information that is good to convey what they've accomplished in the public sphere.

And if you'll reread the write-up, I said it only takes a few hundred being converted to topple dominos, not that it's all they're getting. You only need to go into the replies of any major Xitter figure reporting on them or calling them feds to see many people disagreeing with the fed label and saying they like PF, and its more than anons.

Thomas Rosseau is actually doing a live interview this very minute. You can listen to him and can up your own mind. I have responsibilities I have to take care of now, but I do appreciate the good dialogue.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I would never side with the libs against them

You can't. You're not American and even if you were you'd be smart enough to realize it would be a bad idea to give them any consideration of any kind.

believing the federal government is essentially omniscient

They aren't, you're all just plebeians looking to latch onto something, someone else to do the hard work, a Führer if you will. Lol, lmao even.

Uncle Adolf or Uncle Stalin aren't coming to rescue you. George Washington or Bob Lee aren't coming to you in a dream to impart pearls of wisdom. You have to get off your fat coomer asses and improve yourselves before you make demands on everyone else and band with level headed folks who have jobs, families and some sort of moral framework that's acceptable to most people. It's hard work to create a community and then hold it together. Understanding why the US is in a bad way is only the first step. Yeah, it takes years, the US became a hegemon only after WW2.

Patriot Front are, at the very least, Fed infiltrated. No one should pay any attention to them whatsoever. Worry about yourselves and your community before sperging about "the Feds".

 

[derpherp2]

Man all this sperging by the /pol/fags is totally proving how much of a not glowie PF is

 

[LurkTrawl]

You could. And it wouldn't last. Those behaviours need a solid foundation of a cultural-philosophical foundation. We have low social trust, you can only reform that by reforming the nation, and you can only do that via politics.

Politics and social engineering is what got us to a low-trust state of society to begin with. "Reforming the nation" isn't going to magically make people like your ideology.

I get the idea that perhaps people could convert people, that could convert people, and so on, but it seems like the RW version of out-and-out no-shit commies in the modern american political landscape in that most would/will have their opinion changed for the negative of their newly-minted WN friend/coworker/family member rather than being open to conversion in turn. If that's what you meant with the dominoes comment, anyhow. If what you meant was something to the effect of 'we only need a few people who in turn manage to get into key positions' see above. The country didn't veer out of orbit leftwards overnight, let alone even a single decade.

Odd how? They're protecting information that is a security risk and revealing information that is good to convey what they've accomplished in the public sphere.

Odd as in, if I had to guess I'd have pegged the number of PF "incidents" at single-digit frequency. Per year.

Sure, the individual videos might get millions of views, but if it translates into millions of people reacting with views ranging from disgust, to contempt, to mockery and cynicism I'm not seeing how that's a win. Especially if they're only primarily ever in the media as a boogeyman.

And if you'll reread the write-up, I said it only takes a few hundred being converted to topple dominos, not that it's all they're getting. You only need to go into the replies of any major Xitter figure reporting on them or calling them to see many people disagreeing with the fed label and saying they like PF, and its more than anons.

Nah I read that, it's still a pretty bad uptake ratio. As it's also telling of the success, or lack thereof, that the group is having with 'winning hearts and minds' as a professional shoe-dodger once quipped.

Whether they're feds or not, this kind of shit as mentioned previously in the thread isn't how you'd get any actual results. Even if I was willing to concede for some reason that this group isn't government operated if not government owned, I question the purpose of a group that really only serves as a boogeyman for journos.

I guess what ultimately I'm trying to get at is that, even if these people aren't feds or whatever, their idea of activism while honestly - feds or not - is perhaps good in that they're actually going out and doing good in communities, it's not as successful as perhaps a more subtle method without all of the branding and shit.

 

[AgendaPoster]

You can't. You're not American and even if you were you'd be smart enough to realize it would be a bad idea to give them any consideration of any kind.

I think you're far too obsessed about the "Saloreich" and far too anti-fascist because of your Russian sympathies to have an objective opinion on these issues.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

I'd like to take this a step further: if people in Patriot Front want to do charitable works and provide betterment to communities, why do they want to tie it directly to their fringe political movement, and using it as a means to promote it? That sounds pretty skeevy as fuck.

It sounds to me like you're saying that the reason America is fucked is because you and your friends can no longer go out and lynch a black man and get away with it.

And though I know the top hat rating is incoming, just know that that's not any more hyperbolic than any of the shit you've been posting these past few pages.

Most of the blacks who were lynched to a rapist criminals and people who deserved it just a reminder that George stinney one of the favorite persons who is wrongfully executed beat to white girls to death with a hammer led the cops of the murder weapon and made a full confession

And Emmett Till was not whistling in a white woman he was attempting the sexually assault a woman and had a history of violent Behavior his father was actually shot in World War II for being a rapist

I'm sorry I'm not willing to destroy the country on behalf of blacks it blacks can't stop ooga booga Boogie then they should go back to Africa where they can ooga booga boo all they want

 

[namvata]

Not like you'll accept any proof I'll show you

because you don't have any lmao, which is why you didn't post any to back up your claims. Fedjacketers acting in bad faith, again?! Impossible!

I'm sorry I'm not willing to destroy the country on behalf of blacks it blacks can't stop ooga booga Boogie then they should go back to Africa where they can ooga booga boo all they want

>"B-BUT THE BASED NIGGERS IN MAGA HATS, WHERE WILL MY WIFE'S BOYFRIEND OTUMBE GO?!?!? I'LL REALLY MISS HIM, HE WAS SO HECKIN LE BASED!!!!!!!!!!!"

these people really do remind me of the kekistan residents from that one murdoch murdoch episode. Civic nationalism can only ever exist in a temporary state, it never lasts, thus why every multi-ethnic/multiracial empire that's tried it has inevitably collapsed, often resulting in race wars shortly thereafter. It's a fucking joke and only exists because white people have had it ingrained into them through years of propaganda that you're not allowed to be racially conscious or think in collectives, meanwhile literally EVERY OTHER GROUP around you does. White people are the least racist group of people in the US and that's their biggest weakness. It should be our #1 goal to undo this brainwashing and let them know that it is okay to have prejudices, it is okay to recognize patterns, it is okay to be distrustful of other groups of people (especially in an area you're not familiar with), it is okay to have an in group preference, and none of these things make you a bad person.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I think you're far too obsessed about the "Saloreich" and far too anti-fascist because of your Russian sympathies to have an objective opinion on these issues.

It's very disingenuous of you to bring up the Russia/Ukraine War in a thread that:

1. Does not discuss/refer to it
2. My post, which didn't reference it whatsoever

You forget the US is the primary mover and shaker of that conflict since 2014, having funded the Ukrainian government to the tune of billions, in addition of billions USD in weaponry and sending mercs, excuse me, advisors to secure Ukraine and its borders. It pays the salaries of Ukrainian government workers, soldiers, pensions and pays welfare payments, all while the US was, and is still being invaded by millions of illegals through the southern border the Federal government refuses to secure. American citizens are homeless and hungry but DC refuses to prosecute the crimes of its pets. All this in addition to funding Israel genocidal war in Gaza, also to the tune of billions. It's a legitimate issue how our money is spent, where and by whom. It has also seeded an incipient revolt by the states most affected, with issues eerily similar to The Civil War of 1861, something that would draw in other nations with an axe to grind against the Uniparty, and those who use us as its cat's paw (the Eternal Anglo/EU).

I think you are too yurocentric for this topic, and your proximity to Russia, in addition to being part of the butthurt belt, has clouded your judgement. I like your observations as an outsider, but you aren't seeing this from an American POV.