Navy SEALs, Delta Force, and SOCOM general - The most "Special" groups in the U.S. Military

I recall hearing that most of the air force just flew their planes across the border to another 'stan.
All of the planes that could fly, did, but everyone was caught by surprise and a large percentage of them (I can't remember the number) were not airworthy because they were being repaired, undergoing maintenance, didn't have enough fuel available, and so on. Countless pilots and ground support crew were stranded without the commandos' combat experience needed to make it out of the new Afghanistan alive.
 
All of the planes that could fly, did, but everyone was caught by surprise and a large percentage of them (I can't remember the number) were not airworthy because they were being repaired, undergoing maintenance, didn't have enough fuel available, and so on. Countless pilots and ground support crew were stranded without the commandos' combat experience needed to make it out of the new Afghanistan alive.
I did hear a rumor that the Taliban cut some of the air force personnel a deal . . . by taking their families hostage.
Fly/maintain these planes/choppers for us or your family dies.
 
why do they all look like the same guy
It is the male version of the sorority blond girl.
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Retired Delta Force Sergeant Major Chuck Pressburg talking about sexual assault in the military. Source: Army vet and reporter @sethharpesq on Twitter.

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Dude sounds very unhinged, WTF do you mean, "I will not be sodomized in the shower by another dude". Like, are Delta guys not even safe from Delta guys that they will buttrape each other? I guess Hafer was making the rounds in the shower there. Also, he's fat lol
 
So, I was browsing /k and there was a thread about pics about GWOT, and this appeared.
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So apparently, according to these posts, the CIA went full death squad around 2019 to wipe out the Taliban as a last ditch effort to pull out and win. Sending American lead death squads to terrorize Wardak and kill everyone in their target area, including children associated with Taliban. And holy shit, it was true. (BTW, you can tell who is the American spook in the pic by the gear)

https://theintercept.com/2020/12/18/afghanistan-cia-militia-01-strike-force/ archive

From the article we have some lovely quotes such as:

“[T]he United States is committed to the rule of law,” the CIA said at the time. “We neither condone nor would knowingly participate in illegal activities, and we continually work with our foreign partners to promote adherence to the law. We also take extraordinary measures … to reduce civilian casualties … and to strengthen accountability for our actions and those of our partners.”

So we know it was a fucking massacre. Holy shit. What a disaster the GWOT was. I wonder who the CIA spook was who lead them. Certainly recruited from a SOF/SEAL/Delta psycho. The Afghans call themselves by numbers instead of names, just like the Brazilian BOPE squads.
 
CIA going full death squad is not new, they have been doing it in south america for the longest time. That said, it really is a good example of how farcical the whole occupation of Afganistan truly was. Perhaps this might work in a place where people would be afraid of death, but anyone who actually know the culture would know that martyrdom is the greatest honor for a jihadist warrior.
 
Perhaps this might work...
I understand your idea, but I don't think those words should be uttered by people who consider themselves the "good guys". Thinking "perhaps if we massacred everyone, this might work" is unironically genocidal behavior.

Edit: This hilarious video from the onion addresses the point. It even says, "but you have to remember how bad things were after 9/11"
 
I understand your idea, but I don't think those words should be uttered by people who consider themselves the "good guys". Thinking "perhaps if we massacred everyone, this might work" is unironically genocidal behavior.
But my favorite A&N posters told me that genocide is good so long as they're some shade of brown.
 

The Death of Mark Leshikar​

The recent deaths of Army Delta Force member William J. Lavigne and Army Veteran Timothy Dumas are being investigated as homicides. Their deaths have brought attention back to another fatal shooting Lavigne was involved in, the shooting of his best friend and Special Forces soldier Mark Leshikar. Jack Murphy takes us into the life and death of Mark Leshikar. We talk with his sister and widow, uncovering details never before revealed about this mysterious case. Missing evidence, redacted reports, and a witness who's only now able to speak out.
 
I apologize for being completely out of the loop, but is Eddie Gallagher that SEAL that Dan Crenshaw threw under the bus? I heard that there was a SEAL who was imprisoned for what might have been trumped up charges. I was told that he asked Dan Crenshaw to help him and he said he would, but then Crenshaw turned around and started covertly telling everyone that this guy deserved to be in prison, because the SEAL was pro-Trump. Was that SEAL Gallagher, because then the information in the OP kinda recontextualizes the story.
 
I apologize for being completely out of the loop, but is Eddie Gallagher that SEAL that Dan Crenshaw threw under the bus? I heard that there was a SEAL who was imprisoned for what might have been trumped up charges. I was told that he asked Dan Crenshaw to help him and he said he would, but then Crenshaw turned around and started covertly telling everyone that this guy deserved to be in prison, because the SEAL was pro-Trump. Was that SEAL Gallagher, because then the information in the OP kinda recontextualizes the story.
Yes. Earlier ITT you can find a youtube link to the Eddie Gallagher trial testimony. All of the journos who made it seem like he was guilty should never work again. It was the worst prosecution witness testimony ever and Gallagher was obviously innocent. Then when Gallagher was found not guilty by a jury, journos falsely reported that he was pardoned by Trump.
 
I apologize for being completely out of the loop, but is Eddie Gallagher that SEAL that Dan Crenshaw threw under the bus? I heard that there was a SEAL who was imprisoned for what might have been trumped up charges. I was told that he asked Dan Crenshaw to help him and he said he would, but then Crenshaw turned around and started covertly telling everyone that this guy deserved to be in prison, because the SEAL was pro-Trump. Was that SEAL Gallagher, because then the information in the OP kinda recontextualizes the story.
Yes. Earlier ITT you can find a youtube link to the Eddie Gallagher trial testimony. All of the journos who made it seem like he was guilty should never work again. It was the worst prosecution witness testimony ever and Gallagher was obviously innocent. Then when Gallagher was found not guilty by a jury, journos falsely reported that he was pardoned by Trump.
I must disagree with Finnish Air Force here. In the OP, I clearly state that there was evidence and testimony to convict Gallagher. In fact, you can see the picture yourself and read the transcript of the texts the police found in his phone, "I got him with my hunting knife". The book "Alpha" explains it better, but Trump meddling (political tampering link) and a tainted jury plus members of the original team who flipped to protect the SEAL community made for reasonable doubt. I'm quoting Gallagher here, and it's in the OP CNN story. "If the president hadn't intervened in any way? No, I believe I'd be in prison for life,"

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I must disagree with Finnish Air Force here. In the OP, I clearly state that there was evidence and testimony to convict Gallagher. In fact, you can see the picture yourself and read the transcript of the texts the police found in his phone, "I got him with my hunting knife". The book "Alpha" explains it better, but Trump meddling (political tampering link) and a tainted jury plus members of the original team who flipped to protect the SEAL community made for reasonable doubt. I'm quoting Gallagher here, and it's in the OP CNN story. "If the president hadn't intervened in any way? No, I believe I'd be in prison for life,"

If you have time, listen to all of the testimony. Alpha selectively edited quotations of testimony in a way I'm surprised is legal tbh. There's also no blood on the knife in the photo or any blood on Gallagher's clothes or the fighters neck. Is Gallagher a retard? Yes. Was he a murderer? No. The witnesses to the stabbing admitted in the trial to falsely accusing other SEALs of war crimes. It was that bad.
 

The Death of Mark Leshikar​

The recent deaths of Army Delta Force member William J. Lavigne and Army Veteran Timothy Dumas are being investigated as homicides. Their deaths have brought attention back to another fatal shooting Lavigne was involved in, the shooting of his best friend and Special Forces soldier Mark Leshikar. Jack Murphy takes us into the life and death of Mark Leshikar. We talk with his sister and widow, uncovering details never before revealed about this mysterious case. Missing evidence, redacted reports, and a witness who's only now able to speak out.
Yeah, it's in the OP the links of the investigation.

 
If you have time, listen to all of the testimony. Alpha selectively edited quotations of testimony in a way I'm surprised is legal tbh. There's also no blood on the knife in the photo or any blood on Gallagher's clothes or the fighters neck. Is Gallagher a retard? Yes. Was he a murderer? No. The witnesses to the stabbing admitted in the trial to falsely accusing other SEALs of war crimes. It was that bad.
"Special Operator Corey Scott testified during the trial that he was the one who killed the teen himself by deliberately blocking the young man’s breathing tubes, which he said asphyxiated the boy. Scott described this as a mercy killing, and argued he felt the teen would have been tortured when detained by Iraqi police due to his ties to ISIS. Scott, who said he does not want to see Gallagher jailed, was reportedly granted immunity as a witness for the prosecution, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune."

Imagine getting betrayed by your own platoon. No wonder nobody wants to join anymore.
 
"Special Operator Corey Scott testified during the trial that he was the one who killed the teen himself by deliberately blocking the young man’s breathing tubes, which he said asphyxiated the boy. Scott described this as a mercy killing, and argued he felt the teen would have been tortured when detained by Iraqi police due to his ties to ISIS. Scott, who said he does not want to see Gallagher jailed, was reportedly granted immunity as a witness for the prosecution, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune."

Imagine getting betrayed by your own platoon. No wonder nobody wants to join anymore.
Whoever wants to believe that the Alpha platoon just wanted to betray out Gallagher to NCIS for no reason other than they were pussy millenials, and that Corey did not purposefully testify a lie to let Gallagher off the hook, then you are free to do so. To me, it makes no sense, and I'm keeping to what I believe.
 
"Special Operator Corey Scott testified during the trial that he was the one who killed the teen himself by deliberately blocking the young man’s breathing tubes, which he said asphyxiated the boy. Scott described this as a mercy killing, and argued he felt the teen would have been tortured when detained by Iraqi police due to his ties to ISIS. Scott, who said he does not want to see Gallagher jailed, was reportedly granted immunity as a witness for the prosecution, according to The San Diego Union-Tribune."

Imagine getting betrayed by your own platoon. No wonder nobody wants to join anymore.
I have a feeling that Gallagher is probably a royal piece of shit, and pissed someone off. It also might be in retaliation for other things he's done but could never pin on him. There's a lot of guys in these units and regular infantry platoons, that act like animals for years and years, but never seem to get caught. When one of these "mercy killing" trials happen, it's usually someone taking the opportunity to fuck someone over.

The military is a lot like high school except everyone is older and should know better. There is also a lot of backstabbing and general mean girl bullshit. Especially at the higher levels.
 
There is also a lot of backstabbing and general mean girl bullshit. Especially at the higher levels.
One of my 3-Star commander friends had their two-star promotion delayed by over 4 years due to snippy bullshit and officer egos.
Their side of the story goes as such:
  • Year 2013
  • During Counterinsurgency efforts in North Afghanistan
  • at the time, 1-star brigadier general
  • ~6mo out from promotion
  • In intelligence brief with a higher-ranking officer of significant clout.
  • The higher-ranking officer in question is smart but known for making poor decisions with collected HUMINT. Also doesn't like being critiqued on their plans.
  • Friend points out that acting upon the HUMINT in the manner proposed was very similar to a previous operation in North Afghanistan from a month prior
  • This previous operation was successful but caused some deltas to get injured (allegedly)
  • High-ranking officer berates my friend, puts them down, and generally becomes very unpleasant very quickly
  • Eventually transferred to Stuttgart in early 2014
    • I met them on vacation to Germany over 4th of July weekend for unrelated reasons that year - just needed a place to stay for 2 nights
  • Friend doesn't get promoted until 2017
I was invited to the promotion ceremony when they finally got their second star.
I asked how they felt and they were relieved and grateful, but also looked very exhausted. I can't personally attest to how bad these attitudes are but it always seems to percolate from above to below. It's disappointing and is one reason among a multitude as to why the armed services are having a hard time keeping lower ranks filled.
 
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