The American Child Torture Industry: Cons and Cults Disguised as Schools - Because Discord and Roblox aren't bad enough.

Bruh, eating to self medicate misery is old as the dirt we grew the food in.

Channeling rage and despair into picking up heavy things helps a lot. You won't get cut, you'll be strongfat unless you're really training extremely hard, but hey, at least now you can pick up and throw people. Big dudes already have massive calves too, so if you ever did cut, you'd make bodybuilders cry, or hit on you.

Back to the psycho cunt - it's all of the above. Clinging to a cult or a program is not that different from clinging to an ism or a political party or identity or orientation or whateverthefuck. I only care when it's culty shit that hurts kids, so, programs and troons.
 
Bruh, eating to self medicate misery is old as the dirt we grew the food in.

Channeling rage and despair into picking up heavy things helps a lot. You won't get cut, you'll be strongfat unless you're really training extremely hard, but hey, at least now you can pick up and throw people. Big dudes already have massive calves too, so if you ever did cut, you'd make bodybuilders cry, or hit on you.

Back to the psycho cunt - it's all of the above. Clinging to a cult or a program is not that different from clinging to an ism or a political party or identity or orientation or whateverthefuck. I only care when it's culty shit that hurts kids, so, programs and troons.
Yeah, it is. I don't think the answer is "it's in your DNA to be a fatass", though. His book didn't really touch on the CBT trauma portion of it, from what I remember. More like "choose foods that love you back", which is solid advice honestly, but not getting to the root of psychological trauma. In my opinion, it seemed more targeted at binge eaters than anything else.

I do find strength training more fulfilling than cardio. I should probably set a schedule to do it so I don't forget. I had a lot more stamina (still bad fatigue) when I got out, but I was so miserable that it didn't last. Ended up on more medication when I left than when I got in, and my psychiatrist was abusive about it. Fun.
 
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Narvin update:

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He's a bigger faggot, and apparently he just lost a friend, but I'll be damned if I know how he ever made any. To add some context to this, I personally knew a parent who pulled their kid out of Carolina Springs Academy, one of his programs. That had Randall Hinton as the assistant director for three years. Forgive my nuclear hatred for this man, dear farmers.

The text of his sneeding:

Carmen, I appreciate your feedback and the spirit by what you do it but just so you know a lot of the other programs I had no financial benefit from them and they were actually competitors for me because we are competing to fill our beds and I had no control of what they did or didn’t do they were completely like they were owned by another company my brother had a benefit, but I did not.

This faggot nigger owned CSA (lmao the acronym), which had a fire as bad as the dumpster that is his fucking brain, and literally had Randall Hinton there for 3 years as the Assistant Director.
 
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I saw the Netflix series and noticed they buried the fact that the Lichfields who run those concentration camps are Mormons. Figures.

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That third episode has a lot of self-defeating stuff. The survivors crash a cult leader at a karaoke event, then don't confront him. At another point, they have a girl playing a keyboard and singing "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" in the ruins of the abusive school.

Also, the girl cutting off her dad in retaliation for sending him to the school was spiteful and dumb. Sure, Dad was absent and negligent, but what does a boycott solve?

My concern is that the survivors are doomed to be victimized by mental health professionals who will happily bill insurance for therapy sessions about trauma and prescribe useless drugs with unhappy side effects.
 
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Honestly, it's just baffling to me that this sort of shit exists, specially in the USA. How the hell do people think this will help children? Because there is zero chance that every single person involved in this is just a scumbag, there must be true believers as well. How the hell do they rationalize their actions?!

Like, finding some jobs for the kids to do? Okay, there are a lot of spoiled kids around, and a bit of hard, rewarding work can work wonders to make them more responsible.

Having the kids exercise together? No problem, that will create a sense of camaraderie, help the out-of-shape children get fitter, and exercise can just be some games or tag or whatever to just get them running around.

Beat them and put them in a cage? HOW?! HOW IS THAT GOING TO HELP ANYONE?!

I went to a Catholic Summer Camp when I was younger and it's honestly one of my favorite memories to date, so I'm just baffled by all of this.

Maybe you should organize this better and make a Community Watch Thread? That ought to get more eyes on this.
 
Honestly, it's just baffling to me that this sort of shit exists, specially in the USA. How the hell do people think this will help children? Because there is zero chance that every single person involved in this is just a scumbag, there must be true believers as well. How the hell do they rationalize their actions?!

Like, finding some jobs for the kids to do? Okay, there are a lot of spoiled kids around, and a bit of hard, rewarding work can work wonders to make them more responsible.

Having the kids exercise together? No problem, that will create a sense of camaraderie, help the out-of-shape children get fitter, and exercise can just be some games or tag or whatever to just get them running around.

Beat them and put them in a cage? HOW?! HOW IS THAT GOING TO HELP ANYONE?!

I went to a Catholic Summer Camp when I was younger and it's honestly one of my favorite memories to date, so I'm just baffled by all of this.

Maybe you should organize this better and make a Community Watch Thread? That ought to get more eyes on this.

Like the program said, it's a cult for adults, and the kids are "units" to make money for the business.

No, you can't torture children, even misbehaving or dark skinned ones, into 'being better'. It hurts them, and if they're hurt enough, they're broken, and as one person said, the worry should be for the kids who were so psychopathic they thrived in the environment. The fact that some of them resisted for years, sometimes never advancing at all, shows how tough and morally motivated a kid can be, at least. That said, it is absolutely brainwashing, this will break anyone in time, and expecting someone who can't sign a contract, smoke, drink, drive, or consent to stand up to communist struggle sessions while being punished for smiling or looking where they're not allowed is extremely unrealistic.

Pay attention to how Alexa was groomed. How little it took. A lot of people struggle to understand the oppressive dread and desperation of being held captive in such a place and how even a glimmer of affection or humanity will get in one's head. I increasingly think a lot of people just can't get it unless they went through it themselves.

Community Watch for just the retarded owners and staff, or also some of the more broken survivors acting out? FWIW Katie Mac caused a copyright lawsuit over #BreakingCodeSilence because she's a cunt who still acts like an upper level.

Do you know anyone who could help me learn the ropes? I just came here to shitpost and laugh at CWC, but given that every other forum or "social media" site has gay mods who say "no bad scary topics" I had to bring this shit up here. I don't mind putting in the work but it's an uphill battle just keeping your shit together and getting the information out at all, I need a little help getting started.

I saw the Netflix series and noticed they buried the fact that the Lichfields who run those concentration camps are Mormons. Figures.

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That third episode has a lot of self-defeating stuff. The survivors crash a cult leader at a karaoke event, then don't confront him. At another point, they have a girl playing a keyboard and singing "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" in the ruins of the abusive school.

Also, the girl cutting off her dad in retaliation for sending him to the school was spiteful and dumb. Sure, Dad was absent and negligent, but what does a boycott solve?

My concern is that the survivors are doomed to be victimized by mental health professionals who will happily bill insurance for therapy sessions about trauma and prescribe useless drugs with unhappy side effects.

I really get the impression the producer (read: NETFLIX) was trying to cover their own ass a lot of times here. I also think there's a lot you didn't 'get' or understand:

1) What good would have happened over confronting Narvin? He'd lie and sneed and then Katherine would be kicked out and he'd have been warned before the doc dropped. Instead, he got blindsided and started coping on his Facebook, which I provided links to. Also, she badly sang Blondie and took pictures with him on stage, which he had to see in this documentary, which is funny.

2) Girls Just Wanna Have Fun was a song they were made to sing and dance to in the seminars. Recall how the boys did so in drag, too. It's called "revenge". You're also expecting too much rationality from people who were walking the halls where they were tortured for literal years as children. Remembering that experience puts you back in the state of mind and the same age you were when it happened. Re-watch the beginning and see how they lose their shit and hide how fucked up they are at the very start. For that matter, look at how they regress when they're talking about PC-1 and wanting to beg to go home, or the desperation on their faces in the PC-1 pictures. Or Alexa wilt and crumble when she talks about being groomed. These people were hurt extremely badly for a long time at a young age. I don't think you understand the magnitude of this.

3) "A survivor of child torture cutting her dad off for as many months as she was tortured is spiteful." You do not understand how much damage was done or what the betrayal feels like if your own family did this to you and even sent you coached letters telling you they will not believe you. Did you miss the scene where the interviewed shrink said "if he keeps asking why you bring it up he doesn't understand how much it hurt?" You don't get it. She was tortured for 15 fucking months and is so fucked up she sees a therapist with a weighted blanket to this day, nearly 20 years later. This is shit you cut family off over. Cutting someone off is also a way to simulate what was done to her in the program, it's not like she had access to the outside world at all. Parents regularly put up walls of excuses to avoid accountability for what they did to their now adult children very regularly.

4) Mental Health Abuse is a big problem, but, there are plenty of survivors who are now shrinks. Mine survived CEDU, to powerlevel a little. The good shrinks focus on CBT and EMDR and really shy away from pushing pills, I've found, and most survivors who are put together enough to seek therapy tend to avoid them too.

That said, Katherine drinks like a fish, has insane anxiety issues, and it should be obvious why - she was tortured for over a year, as a child, in a cult, because the stepwife was a cunt and her dad got suckered in until he finally snapped out of it a year and a half later, and said stepwife isn't around anymore. I'd imagine the producer (NETFLIX) wanted Katherine to omit certain things for legal reasons. I must emphatically make it as clear to you as I can that programs are litigious as fucking shit, and anyone who was willing to bankroll it is well aware, as is Netflix. Anything omitted was omitted because lawyers.
 
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All the various stories of these sorta camps and "programs" all end up running together in such a weird way that I just assume they're all connected and there's someone or a group of someone's pulling the string at the very top. Like sure, the basic methods used to break these kids mentally and spiritually are time tested methods, so similarities are bound to crop up, but the fact every single one of them just sounds like a different flavor of the same exact cult is what makes it particularly eerie to me.

There's just no way there isn't some exceptionally dark puppeteer(s) pulling the strings from the shadows of it all.

Was also reading through the Elan guys comic, and this panel for someone reason sent me into a laughing fit that was impossible to explain to the guys I work with. I can't even explain to myself why I fuckin lost it. Maybe the guys art just looks like wiki-how to me and it sent me, idk, but here it is.
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All the various stories of these sorta camps and "programs" all end up running together in such a weird way that I just assume they're all connected and there's someone or a group of someone's pulling the string at the very top. Like sure, the basic methods used to break these kids mentally and spiritually are time tested methods, so similarities are bound to crop up, but the fact every single one of them just sounds like a different flavor of the same exact cult is what makes it particularly eerie to me.

There's just no way there isn't some exceptionally dark puppeteer(s) pulling the strings from the shadows of it all.

Ah, STICKY RICKY, full on HORSECOCK perspective from the perspective of a Clydesdale here! It all comes from the same place, everyone's copying Synanon, everyone's sharing notes and reading from the same playbook, so of course they all smell like the same rat, they're all related.

The big puppeteers are turn out to be fucking Mormons. Robert Lichfield and Mitt Romney.

For shame we have yet to have a SUCCULENT RICO case.
 
https://memorialblack.com/2024/03/0...n-of-specialty-programs-and-schools-has-died/

It appears Narvin Lichfield, notorious child torturer and terrible singer, son of the founder of WWASPS, killed himself yesterday after being outed as a child torturer and terrible singer.

In a very Kiwi turn of events, it appears this gigantic faggot has faked his death, or, someone put up a fake obituary. Nevertheless, dated today, he posted the following wall of text on Facebook:

The original post, should it stay up, is here:
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Also of note is the fact that his own daughter got a restraining order against him in 2018:
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And his own son approached a WWASPS survivors group:
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Fucking lol.

Not sure where to post a picture of this disgusting piece of shit so I'm sticking it here since he's a stupid fat faggot who can't sing and I would not have sex with him.

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Here's this faggot badly dancing by himself

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OK maybe he is a fucking horror lolcow
 

I haven't read Blood Meridian. Mind giving me a QRD?

I've looked The Judge up a bit - Narvin is no Judge. Narvin might think of himself as such if he decides to "own" being a bad guy, in a cringy way. Narvin's a fedora away from being a redditor who got daddy's money and inherited a family business.

Maybe Robert Lichfield? Ken Kay? Even then, you're stretching it. They just aren't that smart or sophisticated. They're fat pedophiles with a scam and good lawyers.
 
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I haven't read Blood Meridian. Mind giving me a QRD?

I've looked The Judge up a bit - Narvin is no Judge. Narvin might think of himself as such if he decides to "own" being a bad guy, in a cringy way. Narvin's a fedora away from being a redditor who got daddy's money and inherited a family business.

Maybe Robert Lichfield? Ken Kay? Even then, you're stretching it. They just aren't that smart or sophisticated. They're fat pedophiles with a scam and good lawyers.
you nailed it; I haven't read BM either, but the dancing comment along with someone mentioning horror near the video made me think that all it would take is a little spin to get there -- there was a lecture on yt citing the original text which inspired BM: MY CONFESSION by Samuel E. Chamberlain https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.226260 -- going to read that before I get to the fiction.
 
If we want to talk about violent brutes who fit the west, well, this walks and quacks like Randall Hinton.

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Keep in mind what this fucker admits to! Bleach and shave Randall and it's the same fucker.


Also, let's have a busted pedophile bonus feature!
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Apparently, Amy was THE abuser on the girl's side! There's more I can't yet say about her that makes my blood boil, and that's on top of what I've already put in this thread.

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A more recent picture of the predator.

On the boy's side, it's John Free:
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John Confirmed. Essay transcribed. Not soul safe.

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MY ESSAY [redacted]
I miss my mom and sister. They can't help
me when I'm hurt by John Free. I hate
SHOWER TIMES because he keeps me back
and makes me do bad things that HURT.
I will be a good boy. I want to go home.
I will follow the program so I wont
have to hurt anymore. I feel scared
because we have to shower at night
but I am always told I am a pig and need
more showertime. I get in trouble when
I say no or try to run. I want my mom.
I want to go home. My program will help
me go home, but it hurts to sit down and
I'm not allowed to cry or I'll hurt more.
I wish I was never born. John Free told
me mom never loved me and that he
can do what he wants but that's not
true, mom loves me. He touches me
in places not supposed to touch. I want
to go home. I will follow my program
and be a good boy so I can go home.
I will not be bad or lie or cause
disturbances. I will not hurt my [cut off]
[cut off ]myself [redacted]
Fuck. You. John.

I honestly did not think I could get this fucking mad anymore, and here I am. Fuck you, John.

If you look at the group - no need to join - you'll see this asshole's name all over the place and see how brutal he was with the boys he would restrain and beat, including videos of him doing it! His name has also come up over and over in terms of sexual abuse as well, though there is obviously no video evidence of that.

This isn't my first rodeo. I've had to use other last-resort websites to keep this shit up before. Good luck getting this off KF, you pedophile monsters.

AIR FB Group I like seeing the kids (well, adults, but we're all stuck at the time it happened) cleaning house like this. I should check the other program-specific groups sometime.
 
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They were forcing the upper levels to prevent riots, holy fucking shit.

Check out the files they're putting up about this from what everyone's digging out of their old drives and attics. Unbelievable.
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I'm also already hearing people are getting bullied by cops and legal threats. Buckle up, faggots!

Thankfully, dear ooperator isn't a bitch, he's a slobber mutt.

More Narvposting:
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Crashing his karaoke is abuse on par with the program's, which he stopped denying, but then says Katherine is successful for having a documentary about how abused she was so it's okay. That sure is the logic of all time there Narv.
 
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So, @doodoocaca a few people have mentioned how having some specific actions that people can support could help people get involved in working to fight this industry.

I think one of the parallels that could help is the anti-mlm movement. It's a massive industry with laws that should theoretically deal with the legal problems, but for various reasons, they can't/don't. So, a starting point was the usual things like clear awareness raising - here is a brief, digestible explanation of why this industry is bad. It's coupled with telling people what businesses/brands are part of the industry - don't buy their products, don't get lured into their "business". There are also people doing legal work, and raising awareness of that legal work - this organization is trying to prosecute so-and-so, write to show your support. This group is trying to get together a class action lawsuit - get in touch with them here. This politician is trying to get a bill to do such and such - let people in this area know, write to support, etc.

It sounds basic, and not enough, but it's also building a foundation and giving people some things they can do. So, for the child torture industry- are their any groups doing work on this? Lawyers doing class-action work? Bills anywhere removing government funding from these organizations, or preventing insurance from covering it as "treatment"? What active groups do you know of - is there an accessible list? Are there any resources people should know about that already exist and are trying to work on this issue?
 
So, @doodoocaca a few people have mentioned how having some specific actions that people can support could help people get involved in working to fight this industry.

I think one of the parallels that could help is the anti-mlm movement. It's a massive industry with laws that should theoretically deal with the legal problems, but for various reasons, they can't/don't. So, a starting point was the usual things like clear awareness raising - here is a brief, digestible explanation of why this industry is bad. It's coupled with telling people what businesses/brands are part of the industry - don't buy their products, don't get lured into their "business". There are also people doing legal work, and raising awareness of that legal work - this organization is trying to prosecute so-and-so, write to show your support. This group is trying to get together a class action lawsuit - get in touch with them here. This politician is trying to get a bill to do such and such - let people in this area know, write to support, etc.

It sounds basic, and not enough, but it's also building a foundation and giving people some things they can do. So, for the child torture industry- are their any groups doing work on this? Lawyers doing class-action work? Bills anywhere removing government funding from these organizations, or preventing insurance from covering it as "treatment"? What active groups do you know of - is there an accessible list? Are there any resources people should know about that already exist and are trying to work on this issue?

1: Though it's not the first paragraph of the OP, I said "In a word, this industry is a cross between a cult and MLM, with each facility pretending to simultaneously be a normal boarding school, reform school, and residential therapy. They are not schools, they do not provide therapy, they do not help or fix any child there. They exist to make money by manipulating parents and states, and controlling children so they can't tell the world what is really going on". Should this be in quote tags at the start? Is that too wordy? It's hard to boil this down.

2: ANY sort of weird school that speaks of reform, tough love, emotional growth, residential therapy, and the like, that in any way at all ever limits communication with home, or sets minimum times for someone to 'graduate' or 'earn' leaving or having contact with the outside world, is a fucking cube of red flags.

3: There is no real industry outside of the 'schools' to speak of, unless you mean Resource Realizations and similar weird seminars that some big corps still do.

4: The reason these places aren't sued is because of paid off judges or how broken the victims are

5: The other reason these places aren't sued is how litigious these fuckers are. They play dirty. These fuckers tried to honey trap me 15 years ago for fuck's sake. An EdCon managed to sue someone for 'slander' to the tune of over 10 million awarded, even if she didn't collect.

6: Groups working on this include BreakingCodeSilence - which Paris Hilton is bankrolling and there's also drama from her orbiters, I wish I was kidding - which is also called Unsilenced, and that's basically it right now!

7: Drama among survivors is fucking incredible. Disenfranchised trauma and CPTSD is a bitch. https://www.breakingcodesilencelawsuit.com/ https://www.breakingcodesilencelawsuit.com/jeremy-whiteley/ It's kinda nasty. There's also someone who got swatted for falling out with the clique on the Facebook group. Not sure if this is the same person!

7a: Actually, those cunts swatted a few people, saying that it was 'wellness checks', justified by vent-posts, though they were clearly looking for excuses to do so. Survivors shouldn't do this to other survivors, or at all, but look at what they were taught to do. I've also had multiple people tell me that they were asked to agree to hold BCS harmless if they were subject to "wellness checks". I have not seen proof of the ask, but I know a few people, some for a very long time, and trust them not to lie to me. So, I suppose put "KATHERINE MACNAMARA" (Katie Mac, NOT the documentary Katherine!) as a problem"

Katie, do better. Stop shitting on over half of the survivors and running off help you need and don't cry if your own bullshit has forced someone to TORpost on Kiwi fucking Farms to warn people about your shit. Moving on...

8: Because currentyear as much as because sex exists comma, men don't have much practice being this hurt or any kind of positive experience with showing vulnerability if they ever make the mistake of doing so. Women rule the roost in survivor groups for reasons that should be obvious despite being a minority of survivors. It's fucking toxic and the queen bees do what they do and literally orbit Paris Hilton. The Aristocrats! For what it's worth Paris is going to DC all the fucking time and bankrolling a lot, so there's that, and she's also not involved in the drama. Just her fucking orbiters. Cliques ruin everything.

9: Phil Elberg has gotten involved in lawsuits because he's that good, he's even in the Documentary. The problem is that these fuckers have more shells in their game than a fucking beach and they play dirty and have a LOT of money to burn in defense, in addition to operating out of states that shelter them, namely Utah, Missouri, and Montana.

10: Outside help is necessary here, particularly that of FUCKING LAW ENFORCEMENT!?!?! but until they stop sitting around with their thumbs up their asses this is what we've got, unless we want to have a very special Kiwi Ooperation or something. The thought of KF raising money to sue a program would be, in a word, the funniest goddamn thing imaginable short of Null and LFJ having a boxing match, but besides that, or myself becoming a public figure and doing so after committing the cardinal sin of saying nigger, faggot, or tranny on the evil dark web, I'm out of ideas.

If you want to know "OK FAGGOT WHAT DO I DO?!?!" It's literally JUST TALK ABOUT IT. Get people to watch the documentary. Talk to them, argue with them if they boomer out and say it's somehow tough love or OK in the end if they don't kill themselves or die in the program. Challenge bullshit and give a damn. Talk to people. Maybe go talk to survivors? Pinch your nose and go to r/troubledteens or one of the many Facebook groups. Plenty are non toxic and happy to share and tell people what's going on.

Sunshine makes roaches scatter. Actually ending the infestation would involve a law enforcement operation that would make a lot of heads roll all the way to the top - ROMNEY IS IMPLICATED HERE! Mel Sembler bought himself ambassadorships with Straight Inc money! Nancy fucking Reagan toured Straight! - or a civil RICO case that would be bigger than "Operation Family Secrets" going after the Chicago Outfit back in 07 or the FIFA affair from 2015.

Also, please don't fedpost. It's tempting, but we know that the glowfaggots (YEAH, YOU, FUCK YOU, I KNOW THIS IS MONITORED) are protecting their kickback source, not American children.
 
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