Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Gingervitis]

So if fire and brimstone hell is full of gays, does that make them all flamers?

 

[SubarashiiRage]

I said you could argue it, not that it was a good argument. I'd assume if you got into Hell people know what you're in for, but seeing how Viv's Hell lacks any coherence who knows?

Perhaps just as every cannibal has more or less the same appearance, pedophiles would also have a distinctly similar appearance that is easy to recognize.

but it doesn't seem to be a rule since Alastor doesn't have the appearance of being from the district, perhaps other crimes take precedent in shaping their demonic appearance.

 

[The Nothingness]

I said you could argue it, not that it was a good argument. I'd assume if you got into Hell people know what you're in for, but seeing how Viv's Hell lacks any coherence who knows?

It's like the worldbuilding should have been thought about. But @ReceiveAndAsk said it best:

One thing that should be put in front of all discussion of these shows is that they are fujoshit made by a white American liberal woman, first and foremost. Then everything becomes clear.

 

[The Lawgiver]

veryone in that has their own voice and singing style that fits their character, such as Rotti the older more traditional mob boss character being a very tenor style opera voice when he sings, while Pavi is very flamboyant, and Luigi just sounds toneless. In Hazbin everyone seems to have every singing voice that the show uses and it makes it come off as more inconsistent.

This probably has to do with all the OG cast being swapped out for broadway and hollywood types. You know how in Aladdin 2: Jafar's revenge they couldn't get Robin Williams back so they hired the guy that voiced Homer Simpson to replace him and it sounded incredibly fucking wrong? It's like that, but instead of a guy being pissed some movie studio used his name was used in marketing when he explicitly told them not to several times it's a single person using an entire fucking cast of people that worked on the pilot to advertise it whether they wanted to or not and dropping them once the opportunity presented itself. Ukinojoe's social media meltdown drama shit from a few years back people laughed about was tied to him feeling he got used due to him being advertised as one of the big names working on Hazbin when he literally knew fuck all abut what was gonna happen with the series. I've seen clips of the new show and some voices are just incredibly off because comparing the series and pilot you can tell certain characters were very clearly meant for the specific voice actor that voiced them in the pilot.

According to Vizvie, all of these are terminated as soon as they arrive in Hell, because these sinners share the same Californian sensibilities and would rather be in the company of rapists than racists.

and pedophiles? well, since 99% of this hell is LGBT, putting them together would have made even more unfortunate implications

This is some steven universe "oh the holocaust didn't happen in my universe u guyize!" shit which is not used for any actual worldbuilding but is something framed as a feel good "ah yeah! No bad Nazis!" thing. Only difference here is Steven Universe had gay space hitler woman "redemption" while Hazbin has SERIAL RAPISTS AND MURDERERS. I don't give a FUCK if the people that lived or served in mid 1930s to 1940s Germany get somehow magically perma-killed in a realm of eternal torment upon arrival at that point. Hell, you could even consider being from Nazi Germany an immediate "get out of eternal torment free" card then. You know "fate worse than death?" Yeah Hell's supposed to be that but post-death, right? why the fuck am I supposed to feel good if Adolf ain't in there?

Basically. Viv made him half Creole and once said this fanart was the closest depiction of what he looked like when he was human.

Alastor unironically looks like the kind of guy that'd out of nowhere drop some extremely racist diatribe about brown people and make everyone uncomfortable.

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[Tablet County]

Finally, the weigh-in we've all been waiting for.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Alastor unironically looks like the kind of guy that'd out of nowhere drop some extremely racist diatribe about brown people and make everyone uncomfortable.

" Now Charlie, let me explain to you why you shouldn't let any of those DAMN DIRTY NIGGERS into the hotel. "

 

[Kiwi2Shoes]

" Now Charlie, let me explain to you why you shouldn't let any of those DAMN DIRTY NIGGERS into the hotel. "

We need AI to generate a voiceline of this.

 

[AnOminous]

According to Vizvie, all of these are terminated as soon as they arrive in Hell, because these sinners share the same Californian sensibilities and would rather be in the company of rapists than racists.

Lmao gay. So much for that redemption bullshit.

 

[The Lawgiver]

Lmao gay. So much for that redemption bullshit.

I LOVE IT WHEN WAR CRIMINALS GET TO NOT EVEN ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE PUNISHMENT FOR THEIR CRIMES IN LIFE!!!!
Nazis are MEAN AND BAD so they don't get to live in the place for mean and bad people!

You'd think they'd like put 2 braincells together and have like a gag where there's an entire swath of the population of hell that's OK with being purged because it's better to just stop being than eternally suffer in the red torture and gang warfare world, and Hitler being a sneaky little almost jew stereotype salesman for the best potential death vantage points during a purge. It'd be an ironic punishment of becoming a comedic mirror of the exact kind of thing he framed jews as while simultaneously maintaining him as mean bad genocide guy.

 

[Activelo]

According to Vizvie, all of these are terminated as soon as they arrive in Hell, because these sinners share the same Californian sensibilities and would rather be in the company of rapists than racists.

and pedophiles? well, since 99% of this hell is LGBT, putting them together would have made even more unfortunate implications

You raised a similar point a few dozen pages back, but did she explain how would the sinners even know what someone did when they were alive unless they outright say it? Sure, I don't have any doubts that someone as infamous and widely known as Hitler would get instantly targeted, but as soon as a random schmuck nobody knows goes to hell? Knowing Viv's worldbuilding, she'd probably say "Hellborn who have access to Earth find out and tell the sinners about it if they don't kill the bastards themselves."

I think she contradicted herself on that before too, since she apparently said before that those types of sinners wouldn't even go to hell to start with; they'd be instantly erased from existence. Damned if I can verify that, though.

I LOVE IT WHEN WAR CRIMINALS GET TO NOT EVEN ACTUALLY EXPERIENCE PUNISHMENT FOR THEIR CRIMES IN LIFE!!!!
Nazis are MEAN AND BAD so they don't get to live in the place for mean and bad people!

You'd think they'd like put 2 braincells together and have like a gag where there's an entire swath of the population of hell that's OK with being purged because it's better to just stop being than eternally suffer in the red torture and gang warfare world, and Hitler being a sneaky little almost jew stereotype salesman for the best potential death vantage points during a purge. It'd be an ironic punishment of becoming a comedic mirror of the exact kind of thing he framed jews as while simultaneously maintaining him as mean bad genocide guy.

Viv also said that she wants to stay away from real life events as much as she can, so people like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Musulini aren't going to appear outside of references like in Murder Family.

 

[King Metalia]

It is tragically ironic that we — people at Kiwi Farms who shit on HH constantly — care more about the show than its own fucking creator does.

I unironically enjoy Viv's work but yeah even I have to admit your right.

" Now Charlie, let me explain to you why you shouldn't let any of those DAMN DIRTY NIGGERS into the hotel. "

Alastair going into a rant about Charlie dating a Mexican would be pretty damn funny too. Because let's be honest he would have voted for Trump.

 

[Bob Barbas]

Alastair going into a rant about Charlie dating a Mexican would be pretty damn funny too.

" I've already made an exception for that spic of yours. But I swear to god Charlie, if a fucking black ass spook walks through that door, I'm gonna have a fit! "

I'm not sorry. Having too much fun with this. Alastor being a horrendous racist is somehow funnier than any of the jokes Vivs has written in years.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

" Now Charlie, let me explain to you why you shouldn't let any of those DAMN DIRTY NIGGERS into the hotel. "

Alastair going into a rant about Charlie dating a Mexican would be pretty damn funny too. Because let's be honest he would have voted for Trump.

Isn't Alastor canonically a nigger himself?

 

[Bob Barbas]

Isn't Alastor canonically a nigger himself?

Why do you think he hates them so much?

 

[Tablet County]

" I've already made an exception for that spic of yours. But I swear to god Charlie, if a fucking black ass spook walks through that door, I'm gonna have a fit! "

"But wait, isn't Husker black?"
"He's what we call a house nigger."

 

[FatalTater]

Basically. Viv made him half Creole and once said this fanart was the closest depiction of what he looked like when he was human.
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That fanart looks an awful lot like the fanart of the radio guy from Welcome To Night Vale.
Wait. Has anyone ever seen Alistor and Cecil in the same room at the same time?

If they keep his Creole background and this music-infested show doesn't do any zydeco numbers? Well, I'm generally against leftist tactics like boycotts and riots, but...

 

[Tablet County]

If they keep his Creole background and this music-infested show doesn't do any zydeco numbers?

That would require creativity.
Besides I thought zydeco was more of a Cajun thing?

 

[FatalTater]

That would require creativity.
Besides I thought zydeco was more of a Cajun thing?

I'm pretty sure it's more Creole, but everything gets mixed around, not just people.
I blame the French.

 

[King Metalia]

" I've already made an exception for that spic of yours. But I swear to god Charlie, if a fucking black ass spook walks through that door, I'm gonna have a fit! "

I'm not sorry. Having too much fun with this. Alastor being a horrendous racist is somehow funnier than any of the jokes Vivs has written in years.

The only thing funnier than racist Alastor would be Sir Pentious who's from the 1800s as a plantation owner. That or racist Alastor in Klan robes.