Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[#lurker]

It's not a cope lmao. I literally said he might have googled something. I didn't have my eyes glued onto the screen for 5 hours just to check for instances where he looks at his phone. Also when he says "I looked the quote up" he clearly glances at his tablet so it's more likely he had it prepared in his notes than he googled through an entire book on his phone in a few seconds.
You're just desperate to find anything that makes him look bad it's hilarious

This is the mind of a Destiny shill. You cannot even concede basic points because it terrifies you that your surrogate father might be an imbecile.. You tried to claim he was only using his tablet. Wrong. Then you claimed he was only using his phone for Starbucks. Wrong. Then you asked for timestamps because you didn't believe it. Proven wrong again. Now that timetamps have been provided you are pretending him being on his phone for literally 5 minutes is not looking things up on Google, and that he instead read the book on his tablet (that he conveniently preloaded).

We are reaching cope levels never thought possible.

 

[GumboVariation]

This is the mind of a Destiny shill. You cannot even concede basic points because it terrifies you that your surrogate father might be an imbecile.. You tried to claim he was only using his tablet. Wrong. Then you claimed he was only using his phone for Starbucks. Wrong. Then you asked for timestamps because you didn't believe it. Proven wrong again. Now that timetamps have been provided you are pretending him being on his phone for literally 5 minutes is not looking things up on Google, and that he instead read the book on his tablet (that he conveniently preloaded).

We are reaching cope levels never thought possible.

A lot of projection going on in this post. Quite endearing. "Look guys he's looking at his phone. Must mean he's googling stuff"
You're boring

 

[#lurker]

A lot of projection going on in this post. Quite endearing. "Look guys he's looking at his phone. Must mean he's googling stuff"
You're boring

Yeah I'm sure he was on his phone for literally 5 minutes ordering Starbucks for the whole crew. What a nice guy!

 

[GumboVariation]

Yeah I'm sure he was on his phone for literally 5 minutes ordering Starbucks for the whole crew. What a nice guy!

More likely arranging a hookup than that lmao.
Look, you're correct. He might have googled something. What a horrible thing of him to do if true.
Just pointing out that in your example he doesn't bring up any weird factoid that he would have googled in his argument after that to get a gotcha on Finkelstein or anything.

 

[Nadine9]

I believe regardless if you think Destiny did well and people just want to hate him and not listen to the content, the simple truth is that he shouldn’t have been there, period. There were three men at that table who have dedicated at least 10yrs of their careers to I/P history and conflict and then this random streamer who’s read about it for maybe 6months and had no interest in the history prior until he realized he could make content off it and get in heated debates and have his audience jerk off his ego when he convinces them he won against field experts. Who’s to say how much work Tiny put in off stream, we don’t know, it’s kind of irrelevant imo. If they wanted a voice from the younger generation to engage in this debate with these guys, why Destiny, seriously? Why not a young journalist who has studied the Middle East and also has some years under their belt of I/P history/conflict understanding, hell even maybe has been there or is of either ethnic/religious background and possibly has a dog in this fight, not a music school drop out from Nebraska who rarely engages in foreign affairs and who has now on at least two occasions on stream, said to nuke them all, he doesn’t care. It literally makes zero sense. The only reason he’s there is because Lex knew it would get more views given Fink and Tiny’s animosity towards each other and unfortunately Destiny is content (positive or negative) There is zero substance from having a person like Destiny regardless of how much research he crammed in 6months. People generally want to hear from accomplished resources when they are trying to understand a conflict, especially one as nuanced as this.

 

[GumboVariation]

I think regardless if you think Destiny did well and people just want it hate him and not listen to the content, the simple truth is that he shouldn’t have be there, period.

I agree with that. I would also say that Rabbani came off the best optically. it's just that Finkelstein clearly came off as a unhinged hack

 

[Radon]

, I was not referencing the logs or any other information out there about it. This is specifically about how Destiny addresses it on stream and he says she was hot as fuck .

you knuckle dragging sub 80 IQ dipshit. He is quoting his logs in the clip.

 

[Cherry Dude]

More likely arranging a hookup than that lmao.
Look, you're correct. He might have googled something. What a horrible thing of him to do if true.
Just pointing out that in your example he doesn't bring up any weird factoid that he would have googled in his argument after that to get a gotcha on Finkelstein or anything.

>It's not happening
>It happened but it's not a big deal

Every single time with you people, lol

 

[GumboVariation]

He ordered starbucks at one point during the podcast and then checks again when the order arrived. He talked about that. Not saying he didn't ever google anything but care to provide some timestamps to where he googles stuff?

>It's not happening
>It happened but it's not a big deal

Every single time with you people, lol

I marked the part where I said it's possible he googled something since you might have trouble reading

 

[cia-log]

One thing I have to give Destiny credit for, his fanbase gives me serious nostalgia with their 2000s youtube debate cliches, saying shit like "if you have to resort to insults you've lost the debate" or calling what Norman does ad hominem whenever he insults Destiny (it's not.)

That said it's disappointing that after all this time they are still shitting up discussions about the debate, which I was hoping to read without all their vapid sperging. There was a lot of information thrown around in those five hours and I'd hoped to find even one conversation where people were talking about those details in depth, instead I find that Destiny's fans are still insisting that mens rea and dolus specialis are totally different. It's fucking agonizing.

 

[Nadine9]

you knuckle dragging sub 80 IQ dipshit. He is quoting his logs in the clip.

He’s not quoting cum guzzler, he never said she was hot as fuck in the logs, just that it was so hard to say no (which implies she’s hot, I can concede that and really is a bad statement in itself) He said she was hot as fuck in the clip, he’s actually making himself look worse trying to defend himself in regard to the logs instead of saying it’s hard to gauge someone’s age sometimes because people who are actually too young come off like adults optically or something, anything that looks better than saying a 15yr old is hot as fuck, again its the wording I find tactless. It’s not unlike how he’s making himself look worse now having a shit fit on twitter for 3 days about the debate. His damage control is atrocious sometimes, like he’s not smart enough to navigate controversy in a way that makes him look respectable? It already looks bad that he said it was hard to say no with the knowledge she was 15, but he will dig a deeper hole explaining it.

 

[Fuck It We'll Do It Live]

Debate is out

Direct link: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1X_KdkoGxSs

I'm only just getting around to listening to this.

Archiving this entire five hour debate into a single video upload, even at 144p, seems virtually impossible so here is the entire debate as a WEBM audio only (88667 kbps):

Timestamps:

0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:

4:42 - 1948

1:03:14 - Partition

2:07:47 - October 7

3:01:59 - Gaza

3:28:34 - Peace

4:33:18 - Hope for the future

 

[one thread bandit]

Lurker here, when did this thread turn into an Israel-Palestine circlejerk? Who gives a fuck.

It used to be actual, substantive lolcow dissections of Destiny abandoning his son to have sex with suicidal 19 year old girls because of high school insecurities, goading friends into suicide, sexually assaulting women, trying to drive drunk, having embarrassing week long meltdowns over people calling him rude, etc.

I’m not gonna get astroturfed into thinking that Finklestein intellectually curbstomped Destiny. It’s just too retarded after I wasted 5 hours of my life watching that shitshow. The only “ownage” clip is Finkle getting triggered and calling him a moron. Anyone in the conversation could insult the other person at any time, it’s not special or epic. If Destiny said something wrong, got disproven/retorted, and then got roasted, the clip spam would be justified. That’s the point of this debate, not just immature playground insults. If he’s only insulting him because he didn’t respect him due to no academia, why accept the previous one-on-one debate or this debate? I’m actually starting to like Destiny again because of how hard he’s triggering the far-left and far-right.

Can the groypers stop infesting this thread and instead focus on twitter spam where your trolling can be amplified by the tankies? Spamming reactions and replies here doesn’t do anything except show that you aren’t just doing it to troll and are actually retarded enough to adulate Finklestein.

If you actually believe this was an epic debate where Finklestein righteously owned everyone and aren’t doing it just to trigger Destiny (which is hilarious and working), I just want to let you know that you are undeniably, indisputably, just as stupid as Hasan and Twitter tankies who think 3 year olds can be trans.

One thing I have to give Destiny credit for, his fanbase gives me serious nostalgia with their 2000s youtube debate cliches, saying shit like "if you have to resort to insults you've lost the debate" or calling what Norman does ad hominem whenever he insults Destiny (it's not.)

That said it's disappointing that after all this time they are still shitting up discussions about the debate, which I was hoping to read without all their vapid sperging. There was a lot of information thrown around in those five hours and I'd hoped to find even one conversation where people were talking about those details in depth, instead I find that Destiny's fans are still insisting that mens rea and dolus specialis are totally different. It's fucking agonizing.

How is randomly spending 2 minutes insulting somebody mid-debate not an ad-hominem? It’s the textbook definition. You’re attacking the person and not their idea.

This isn’t a roast battle, it’s a structured debate where they all flew out and where the explicit point is to show that the other person is wrong through argumentation on the matters-of-fact.

I hate how you’re so retarded that you’re making me defend Destiny, thanks for ruining my day. I hope you’re trolling because in that case, you got me.

Edit: my bad for the double reply spam

 

[Seymour Butts]

More likely arranging a hookup than that lmao.

This is just embarrasing at this point. I don't know why you feel the need to spend your time and energy dickriding this cuckold manlet pseud deadbeat pedo.

 

[Radon]

He’s not quoting cum guzzler, he never said she was hot as fuck in the logs, just that it was so hard to say no (which implies she’s hot, I can concede that and really is a bad statement in itself) He said she was hot as fuck in the clip, he’s actually making himself look worse trying to defend himself in regard to the logs instead of saying it’s hard to gauge someone’s age sometimes because people who are actually too young come off like adults optically or something, anything that looks better than saying a 15yr old is hot as fuck, again its the wording I find tactless. It’s not unlike how he’s making himself look worse now having a shit fit on twitter for 3 days about the debate. His damage control is atrocious sometimes, like he’s not smart enough to navigate controversy in a way that makes him look respectable? It already looks bad that he said it was hard to say no with the knowledge she was 15, but he will dig a deeper hole explaining it.

you need a care taker. He is saying what he is paraphrasing his logs because someone confronted him about it in the clip. He did not make a current state of mind statement.

 

[RedditorsAreFags]

you need a care taker. He is saying what he is paraphrasing his logs because someone confronted him about it in the clip. He did not make a current state of mind statement.

You're right, in that specific instance, he was quoting his chat logs. But if you keep watching the stream, he pretty much reiterates the "some of these 15 year old chicks are hot as fuck" sentiment:

So he did make a current state of the mind statement. But even if he hadn't, why would it matter? He's literally quoting his own chat logs. The distinction is kinda meaningless.

 

[Nadine9]

you need a care taker. He is saying what he is paraphrasing his logs because someone confronted him about it in the clip. He did not make a current state of mind statement.

That is his state of mind retard, probably still holds true today. Bet you he still thinks 15yr olds are hot today, he’s probably just a little more wiser to publicly state it. Why even use the adjective to describe her that way if he didn’t think it was an accurate depiction of her and show pictures to his friends so they to could understand that it was hard to reject her sexual advances because look how hot she is, but he had to remind himself shes 15 and shut it down unfortunately. What’s your argument exactly? Being pedantic about his paraphrasing of his chat log in response to confrontation. Again since you can’t seem to understand despite me saying it multiple times now, I’m focused on words, he didn’t say she was hot as fuck in the logs, he said it in the streamed clip that his audience was watching live and you're saying he used that language to paraphrase the logs while running defense for the situation and I’m saying that choice to paraphrase it that way sounds worse audibly to me. Either way he’s attracted to a minor and publicly stating so to friends and his audience. If you don’t consider it bad taste for him to publicly say a minor he interacted with is hot as fuck then fine, I disagree. I’ll take the L that I’m more virtuous than you.

 

[Blav]

Lurker here, when did this thread turn into an Israel-Palestine circlejerk? Who gives a fuck.

I think it's fine. Tiny's life for the last 5 months has been building up to this debate, and going through his post-divorce midlife crisis by fucking 20 mentally ill BPD girls, which has already been archived by multiple people. People will probably be over the Lex debate in a week or two, and the thread is supposed to be a sort of archive of Tiny's life, so it seems like a good thing for people's different reactions to the debate to be part of the thread.

 

[cia-log]

Lurker here, when did this thread turn into an Israel-Palestine circlejerk? Who gives a fuck.

I don't know if you know this, but Destiny was recently on a five hour long podcast debating the issue. As with all other breadtubers, whenever a new video gets dropped, the content of the video is generally discussed. Everyone here has been careful to keep the discussion strictly to the points Destiny has debated rather than turn it into a general Israel/Palestine thread. If you want to sperg about his sex life, nobody's stopping you.

How is randomly spending 2 minutes insulting somebody mid-debate not an ad-hominem? It’s the textbook definition.

Throw out your textbook, it hasn't done you any good.

You’re attacking the person and not their idea.

He actually did address the idea, which I had already covered in a previous post. Destiny claimed that the four kids who were blown up by Israel on the beach were seen coming out of a Hamas compound, to which Finkelstein responded by calling destiny a moron, and then said the shack that Destiny was claiming was a "Hamas compound" was in reality an old fisherman's shack which was in clear view of the two hotels at which dozens of journalists were staying when the attack happened. Based on the video evidence from the event, along with testimony from foreign correspondents who were at the hotels at the time of the strike, the facts seem to favor Finkelstein's interpretation of events.

 

[Smithfield Ham]

Hey, listen here you fuckers, Destiny obviously won the debate. Sure, he had nothing to say and didn't know what he was talking about. Sure, he was just some idiot who used to professionally lose at video games surrounded by three actual scholars who dedicated their lives to actually knowing what they're talking about,

but Norman Finklestein was kind of cunty, so therefore you have to ignore that Destiny was also cunty and declare him the winner. Destiny ain't nothing to fuck with, he reads every Wikipedia article top to bottom and skims every citation too!